Is this a copy of the original Red Box set? If so, then I may have to pick it up.
No, it's just a new starter set for 4th edition with the old Red Box look to it.
Oh. Oh well.
lol 4th edition
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I'm not a big fan of 4th Edition, but I commend Wizards on embracing DnD's great past and on producing a well-crafted, affordable starter set for their game. This isn't just an entry level product for DnD, this is an entry level product for all tabletop RPGs. I hope it can introduce more new players to the hobby. Kudos, Wizards.
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I'm not a big fan of 4th Edition, but I commend Wizards on embracing DnD's great past and on producing a well-crafted, affordable starter set for their game. This isn't just an entry level product for DnD, this is an entry level product for all tabletop RPGs.
The Dragon Age box set is also a good intro into tabletop rpgs.
Interesting. I'll have to give it a try at the Essentials Game Day this Saturday when I pick up my copy of E1: Carnival of Tears.
Does it have Bargle? If not, I'm not interested.
I'm not a big fan of 4th Edition, but I commend Wizards on embracing DnD's great past and on producing a well-crafted, affordable starter set for their game. This isn't just an entry level product for DnD, this is an entry level product for all tabletop RPGs. I hope it can introduce more new players to the hobby. Kudos, Wizards.
Call me cynical but isn't this just an "emperor's new clothes" scenario for Wizards to appeal to the old school gaming crowd who remember that original box with fondness? Nostalgia is a hugely powerful selling tool, so yeah kudos to Wizards for being savvy enough to tap into that... but not seeing the embrace myself!
That being said I am a cold hearted "glass half full" dour Scot lol...
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Here is a pretty good review: LINK
Did the 4E Red Box convince me to play 4E? No. It reminded me why I lost interest in 4E to begin with. But that doesn't mean that it is not right for you. If your favorite part of D&D was engaging in combats, participating in heroic quests, and obtaining magic items, and least favorite was role-playing your character, solving puzzles, exploring abandoned ruins, and managing your material resources effectively, then 4E is worth checking out.
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I don't know it actually might not be a bad set up. Something that helps a brand new person learn how to make a character. Though by the review linked it sounds like it doesn't go far enough. It helps you get set up and then has nothing as a follow up. It should have then had a easy to run adventure for the GM to run after the 4 players did there characters.
I also think it should have at least covered the first 5 levels. Another book with the first 5 levels of rules. For what the product is meant to do, it doesn't sound like a bad idea, just a idea that they didn't take near far enough.
I don't know it actually might not be a bad set up. Something that helps a brand new person learn how to make a character. Though by the review linked it sounds like it doesn't go far enough. It helps you get set up and then has nothing as a follow up. It should have then had a easy to run adventure for the GM to run after the 4 players did there characters.
It does include an easy to run adventure for 4 players, as well as a few pages of monsters and advice to build your own dungeon.
I'm not a big fan of 4th Edition, but I commend Wizards on embracing DnD's great past and on producing a well-crafted, affordable starter set for their game. This isn't just an entry level product for DnD, this is an entry level product for all tabletop RPGs. I hope it can introduce more new players to the hobby. Kudos, Wizards.
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That's exactly the way I feel about it too. It sounds like a good starter kit and anything that encourages more people to participate in RPG the better.
So, how about a Pathfinder starter set of similar scope and price?
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So, how about a Pathfinder starter set of similar scope and price?
I think they did something like that, the treasure box set that came out a couple of years ago.
Looking forward to the map tile box sets that Wizards is coming out but I'll pass on the new red box. Making characters in 4e is pretty simple enough.
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Why didn't WoTC use the real Erol Otus box set art? If they wanted to appeal to Grognards they should have went with the Otus box set art. By the time the box set with THIS art work was out 2E was under way. I don't get it.
Pfff... newcomer.
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I don't know it actually might not be a bad set up. Something that helps a brand new person learn how to make a character. Though by the review linked it sounds like it doesn't go far enough. It helps you get set up and then has nothing as a follow up. It should have then had a easy to run adventure for the GM to run after the 4 players did there characters.It does include an easy to run adventure for 4 players, as well as a few pages of monsters and advice to build your own dungeon.
By the review it didn't sound like it did.
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Out of respect to the 4th ed fans who wish to discuss 4th positively and not other products I've made a thread about a Pathfinder Starter Kit.
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From the pictures I have seen of the contents it looks like it has lots of "stuff" in the box. Whats with all the extra cards and counters? I figure a starter set would be a PHB, DMG, and an adventure. Im not sure what all the extra things are. Is this something 4E requires?
This set is designed to refine what you need for starting to run a game, rather than giving you all the stuff to run open endedly.
This is probably better than just throwing the full set of books at new players - and means that if they get hooked they can buy them seperately /cynic hat off
The counters aren't needed for 4e itself, but I can see how counters could be useful for running it, especially with people new to roleplaying. I could also see them being useful for 3e/Pathfinder.
From the pictures I have seen of the contents it looks like it has lots of "stuff" in the box. Whats with all the extra cards and counters? I figure a starter set would be a PHB, DMG, and an adventure. Im not sure what all the extra things are. Is this something 4E requires?
There is a sheet of tokens to represent pc's and monsters, because 4e is a mini-heavy rules set. There are 4 character sheets. Several sheets of power cards (and magic items), that way you won't have to write out what each power does. And a 2-sided dungeon map rounds out the additional contents. Everything a new player would need to play a first adventure.
As far as I'm aware WOW does not have a "basic" and "advanced" version. I don't know why no one seems to understand this.
This isn't a "basic version" of 4e. The box set is a simple presentation of a small portion of the rules, collected and priced to be accessible to a person that has never played D&D.
Last holiday season I was at Borders and a mother was there with her two pre-teen children. The kids were clamorng her for the Dungeons and Dragons stuff that a friend had told them about. They wanted books and minis, about $100 worth of stuff. I stepped in and advised her to just buy the old 4e box set because it had enough to start playing and who knows if D&D was going to hold the kids' attention long enough to spend $100. If they kept with it then she should consider the core rules.
I believe this starter set is better than the old one, and would be perfect for those kids. It's not a case of being a simplier version, but presented in a way that introduces the game with less financial risk. After all, to go back to the WoW comparison, they send out trial versions too.
lol 4th edition
lol 4th edition
We don't make fun of your games please return the favor.
When I saw this at my local game shop it brought a smile and good memories. I don't play 4e but I was tempted to buy it just for the nostalgia of the box. I first played D&D out of the red box set. It tore at my heart to put it back on the shelf.
I went ahead and bought it, as I have purchased every version of the game since day one... and still have most of them on my shelves.
It does what it claims and is fairly slick, but lacks the personality of earlier starting sets that was apparent in the writing... but I could be jaded... will give it another solid read...
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The counters aren't needed for 4e itself, but I can see how counters could be useful for running it, especially with people new to roleplaying. I could also see them being useful for 3e/Pathfinder.
Exactly. I have been using the counters from the first 4e starter set in my Pathfinder game for a few years.
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Here is a pretty good review: LINK
Did the 4E Red Box convince me to play 4E? No. It reminded me why I lost interest in 4E to begin with. But that doesn't mean that it is not right for you. If your favorite part of D&D was engaging in combats, participating in heroic quests, and obtaining magic items, and least favorite was role-playing your character, solving puzzles, exploring abandoned ruins, and managing your material resources effectively, then 4E is worth checking out.
This reviewer was NOT the target audience for the Red Box (since it reminded him why he left 4e). And his review seems biased and jaded...least fave: Roleplaying? Solving Puzzles? Exploring?
The guy must be just plain dense...I have not met a game system that restricts these.