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Does anybody else have pages 65-80 printed twice in their physical copy?
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I know this is probably only for this AP, but the entry on the Lake of Mists and Veils, PEAK in my opinion. I loved the detailing of not just local life, but Cryptids claimed to exist in the area, I would love to see more stuff like that in other APs keep the Occult/Mystery stuff flowing even in snippets.
Does anybody else have pages 65-80 printed twice in their physical copy?
Probably, but I can verify that it is not a universal printing error.
You should open your copy to the pages showing the first page 80 and the second page 65, take a photograph of those two pages together, and attach that photo to your e-mail to customer.service@paizo.com asking for a replacement copy.
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It just dawned on me how much this AP is ripping off - sorry, paying homage - to Final Fantasy 10. Evil whale monster? Check. Escorting Mary-Sue VIP on spiritual journey? Check. Travel between different worlds? Check. If we have to win the Blitzball cup in book 3, then so help me....
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People use "Mary Sue" to mean "NPC capable of doing literally anything," don't they?
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An alternate interpretation is "usually female and almost always the main character, a Mary Sue is often an author's idealized self-insertion, and may serve as a form of wish-fulfillment".
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For what it's worth... FFX and even moreso FFX2 are my favorite ones, and neither crossed my mind while I was writing the third adventure. The three things that DID serve as the predominant inspirations for me in writhing the third adventure were...
John Carpenter's The Thing
Shackleton's real-world fraught expedition to the south pole
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*Looks up sin* It looks like a mole, and godzilla had a baby.
Also how is Sakuachi a Mary Sue...
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It just dawned on me how much this AP is ripping off - sorry, paying homage - to Final Fantasy 10. Evil whale monster? Check. Escorting Mary-Sue VIP on spiritual journey? Check. Travel between different worlds? Check. If we have to win the Blitzball cup in book 3, then so help me....
The day that blitz freaks across Spira have been waiting for is finally here! That's right, folks! Blitzball season has begun!
I played FFX all the way to the end, despite it taking far too long. This really isn't like it. This type of quest works well at the PC levels in the adventure - it wouldn't if they were already 10-13th.
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People use "Mary Sue" to mean "NPC capable of doing literally anything," don't they?
There are people who genuinely believe that Shensen, a minor character in Hell's Rebels who is involved in like one minor side quest, is some narrative-controlling Mary Sue creature. It is literally never a valid criticism.
Also never heard of someone calling Yuna a Mary Sue either...
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People use "Mary Sue" to mean "NPC capable of doing literally anything," don't they?There are people who genuinely believe that Shensen, a minor character in Hell's Rebels who is involved in like one minor side quest, is some narrative-controlling Mary Sue creature. It is literally never a valid criticism.
Also never heard of someone calling Yuna a Mary Sue either...
The real definition of a Mary Sue is an author insert who lets him or her live out a vicarous fantasy of being in the story. (E.g. a younger/hotter/more capable version of the author who still has their personality or is living out what they would do if they, rather than an independent character with their own existence separte from the author with their own goals and personality, were driving the story.)
Shensen is literally a former PC of the developer of the Hell's Rebels AP. The psychology is clearly related.
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I found a minor inconsistency for someone to note for a later erratum.
On page 7, it says this: "Sakuachi bears a magical rune which her elder Seshu glimpsed in a dream and inscribed on her palm for protection. (What Sakuachi doesn’t know is that this rune is the exact same mark shared by all gatewalkers, including the PCs.)"
On page 22, it says this: "Thanks to the magic of the rune on Sakuachi’s neck, he can see into her dreams as well, even though she isn’t a gatewalker."
I'd imagine the fix between palm and neck would happen on page 22, but that's for someone else to figure out. It might also be mentioned one or the other elsewhere in the adventure.
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People use "Mary Sue" to mean "NPC capable of doing literally anything," don't they?
Most accurate definition of Mary Sue nowadays seems to be this one:
"Mary Sue is a derogatory term primarily used in Fan Fic circles to describe a particular type of character. This much everyone can agree on. What that character type is, exactly, differs wildly from circle to circle, and often from person to person."
(its basically used so widely differently that term has lost its meaning besides "I don't like this character")
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People use "Mary Sue" to mean "NPC capable of doing literally anything," don't they?There are people who genuinely believe that Shensen, a minor character in Hell's Rebels who is involved in like one minor side quest, is some narrative-controlling Mary Sue creature. It is literally never a valid criticism.
Also never heard of someone calling Yuna a Mary Sue either...
The real definition of a Mary Sue is an author insert who lets him or her live out a vicarous fantasy of being in the story. (E.g. a younger/hotter/more capable version of the author who still has their personality or is living out what they would do if they, rather than an independent character with their own existence separte from the author with their own goals and personality, were driving the story.)
Shensen is literally a former PC of the developer of the Hell's Rebels AP. The psychology is clearly related.
Shensen is probably not a self-insert of James Jacobs so by your own post's logic that isn't relevant.
Also not the topic of this product thread. Mikeawmids, if you want to post more about not wanting women in your roleplaying games, feel free to go make your own thread on that topic.
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Sakuachi isnt a mary sue, its pretty clear that the writers were aware such a criticism would be made in the AP itself and included a sidebar to help explain that Sakuachi isnt mean to overshadow the heroes. She doesnt fight and basically fills the role of what would have been a magical relic in another adventure but I like that she's her own character. Having a friendly NPC to travel with the party is fun and the party is already fulfilling the role of a "chosen one" in a traditional story, just through an ironic lens.
If anything I hope paizo includes recurring NPCs in their APs more often, its fun to have friendly faces in adventures for players to build off of and grow alongside. In Strength of Thousands the students have been a major success with my players so I expect Sakuachi to be well received too
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Shensen is modeled after my favorite PC I've ever played, yes, so if that annoys anyone... there are far more Paizo products that are Shensen-free than are. Such as the Gatewalkers Adventure Path. ;-)
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Uhmmm... what is UP with the cover art on the PDF? The cover art on the printed product is as advertised; however, the cover art on Vol 2 of Gatewalkers: They Watched the Stars Interactive Maps is just ... wrong.
You have included as the cover art of the PDF for Vol 2 of the Gatewalker AP Interactive Maps the cover art which is for Vol 3 of the same AP.
I just noticed this today as I received Vol 3 of the PDF in my download section. James Jacobs is writing this one so I had to go look (even if only a cursory glance as I likely will be playing this) and I saw it was exactly the same cover art as for Vol 2!
Which art is correct? My physical copy of volume 2 indicates: the cover on the PDF for Vol 2 Interactive Maps is wrong!
This... this is an odd mistake for Paizo (there's a first time for everything) but uhmm... yeah. There it is, just the same.
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Uhmmm... what is UP with the cover art on the PDF? The cover art on the printed product is as advertised; however, the cover art on Vol 2 of Gatewalkers: They Watched the Stars is just ... wrong.
You have included as the cover art of the PDF for Vol 2 of the Gatewalker AP the cover art which is for Vol 3 of the same AP.
I just noticed this today as I received Vol 3 of the PDF in my download section. James Jacobs is writing this one so I had to go look (even if only a cursory glance as I likely will be playing this) and I saw it was exactly the same cover art as for Vol 2!
Which art is correct? My physical copy of volume 2 indicates: the cover on the PDF for Vol 2 is wrong!
This... this is an odd mistake for Paizo (there's a first time for everything) but uhmm... yeah. There it is, just the same.
I just took a look at both my print and PDF version of the 2nd book, and my pdf for the 3rd one, and they all fit? And the book 2 pdf on have not been update since January... I dunno how you pdf could get scrambled like that? But that seems like a very peculiar bug...
Just to make it clear:
My vol 2 (physical) and vol 2 (PDF): Same art between each other
My vol 3 (PDF): different art from the previous 2.
Note: I didn't look at the "file per chapter" version, only the one file version.
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I just took a look at both my print and PDF version of the 2nd book, and my pdf for the 3rd one, and they all fit? And the book 2 pdf on have not been update since January... I dunno how you pdf could get scrambled like that? But that seems like a very peculiar bug...
Just to make it clear:
My vol 2 (physical) and vol 2 (PDF): Same art between each other
My vol 3 (PDF): different art from the previous 2.
Note: I didn't look at the "file per chapter" version, only the one file version.
Look at your Interactive Maps for Vol 2. :P
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Look at your Interactive Maps for Vol 2. :PI just took a look at both my print and PDF version of the 2nd book, and my pdf for the 3rd one, and they all fit? And the book 2 pdf on have not been update since January... I dunno how you pdf could get scrambled like that? But that seems like a very peculiar bug...
Just to make it clear:
My vol 2 (physical) and vol 2 (PDF): Same art between each other
My vol 3 (PDF): different art from the previous 2.
Note: I didn't look at the "file per chapter" version, only the one file version.
My interactive maps have the correct cover art too.
... Oh wait, you meant the TEXT on the cover, not the art. xDYou said art, so I didn't read the words, only looked at the art. xD
nevermind, yes, both files have the title "THEY WATCHED THE STARS" on the cover of the interactive maps.
Note that the store page people don't get notified when people post here, and don't monitor these threads, so you should send an email to them. (Either CS or the store mail I think?)
Also, the problematic one is not the second book, it's the 3rd book that should say "DREAMERS OF THE NAMELESS SPIRES" by "James Jacobs".
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I leaved through this book at my FLGS and i have to say that all the battle maps are really plain and boring, something that seems to have being put together in 5 minutes each.
The art for the Lake of Mists and Veils on page 76 however is very beautiful and the article is great too.
I can't say anything about the adventure itself, but i miss the old intricate battle maps.
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I noticed a number of errors on the Lake map, some really puzzling ones too:
Skyloatch should be Skywatch
Winterbreath should be Winterbreak
Winterbreath Bay should be Winterbreak Bay
Egade should be Egede
Icemine Peaks should be Icerime Peaks
Any chance it can be errata'd?