Pathfinder Adventure Path #182: Graveclaw (Blood Lords 2 of 6)

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Toil and Trouble! After stopping a poisonous plot against the living population of Graydirge, the player characters must seek out the hag pulling the strings from behind the scenes. Yet hags congregate in covens, and facing off against the insidious hag coven called the Graveclaw leads to a race across the undead-haunted nation of Geb. From shadowed forests to an undersea temple, and from rusted-out factories to university lecture halls, the characters must investigate the trails of misery and fear the hags leave in their wake. The characters must vanquish the Graveclaw to protect the residents of Geb—or end up stewing in a hag’s cauldron!

Graveclaw is a Pathfinder adventure for four 4th-level characters. The adventure continues the Blood Lords Adventure Path, a six-part monthly campaign in which the characters rise from skilled troubleshooters to join the Blood Lords who rule a nation of the dead. The adventure also includes an article exposing the secrets of hag covens and plenty of new rules for fighting against hags. New spells and new items complete the witch’s brew in the coven’s cookpot!

Each monthly full-color softcover Pathfinder Adventure Path volume contains an in-depth adventure scenario, stats for several new monsters, and support articles meant to give Game Masters additional material to expand their campaign. Pathfinder Adventure Path volumes use the Open Game License and work with both the Pathfinder RPG and the world’s oldest fantasy RPG.

ISBN-13: 978-1-64078-453-6

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This AP sounds better and better!


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oooooof was really excited for this ap but a whole book being really hag-centric is majorly off-putting


silversarcasm wrote:
oooooof was really excited for this ap but a whole book being really hag-centric is majorly off-putting

I’m not sure I understand the complaint. What’s the issue?


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keftiu wrote:
silversarcasm wrote:
oooooof was really excited for this ap but a whole book being really hag-centric is majorly off-putting
I’m not sure I understand the complaint. What’s the issue?

They're an antisemitic caricature complete with blood libel.

I remove all hags and hag-related playable options at my table because they make me so uncomfortable. This book sounds like its going to be very hard to separate from them.


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Ummm...I've heard of the term being used as misogynistic, but I can't find it as being used for antisemitism. It originated as a bias against wise women and midwives in the middle ages and Renaissance. It is pretty much synonymous with "witch."


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Feros wrote:
Ummm...I've heard of the term being used as misogynistic, but I can't find it as being used for antisemitism. It originated as a bias against wise women and midwives in the middle ages and Renaissance. It is pretty much synonymous with "witch."

Nothing to do with the name, but the way they are depicted in the art and lore of pathfinder


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silversarcasm wrote:
Feros wrote:
Ummm...I've heard of the term being used as misogynistic, but I can't find it as being used for antisemitism. It originated as a bias against wise women and midwives in the middle ages and Renaissance. It is pretty much synonymous with "witch."
Nothing to do with the name, but the way they are depicted in the art and lore of pathfinder

Could you walk me through this one? I haven’t heard this concern before, while the only snarl with Changelings I know of is some autism-related stuff.


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keftiu wrote:
silversarcasm wrote:
Feros wrote:
Ummm...I've heard of the term being used as misogynistic, but I can't find it as being used for antisemitism. It originated as a bias against wise women and midwives in the middle ages and Renaissance. It is pretty much synonymous with "witch."
Nothing to do with the name, but the way they are depicted in the art and lore of pathfinder
Could you walk me through this one? I haven’t heard this concern before, while the only snarl with Changelings I know of is some autism-related stuff.

They are hook nosed women (like im sorry some of the art could be straight out of 1930s propaganda posters) who are depicted as living on the edge of civilisations but never really part of them ("rootless cosmopolitans"). They steal children from those communities and eat them. I would recommend you research blood libel to see why this is so egregious.

From my interactions with people about this before, blood libel seems largely unknown to american gentiles which is why I think people miss this, but as a european it's so blatant and shocking.


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silversarcasm wrote:
keftiu wrote:
silversarcasm wrote:
Feros wrote:
Ummm...I've heard of the term being used as misogynistic, but I can't find it as being used for antisemitism. It originated as a bias against wise women and midwives in the middle ages and Renaissance. It is pretty much synonymous with "witch."
Nothing to do with the name, but the way they are depicted in the art and lore of pathfinder
Could you walk me through this one? I haven’t heard this concern before, while the only snarl with Changelings I know of is some autism-related stuff.

They are hook nosed women (like im sorry some of the art could be straight out of 1930s propaganda posters) who are depicted as living on the edge of civilisations but never really part of them ("rootless cosmopolitans"). They steal children from those communities and eat them. I would recommend you research blood libel to see why this is so egregious.

From my interactions with people about this before, blood libel seems largely unknown to american gentiles which is why I think people miss this, but as a european it's so blatant and shocking.

I’m of Jewish heritage myself and familiar with blood libel, which is why I asked. I appreciate your explanation, but I’m afraid I don’t see it myself.

Hope the next volume is something more your speed!


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keftiu wrote:
silversarcasm wrote:
keftiu wrote:
silversarcasm wrote:
Feros wrote:
Ummm...I've heard of the term being used as misogynistic, but I can't find it as being used for antisemitism. It originated as a bias against wise women and midwives in the middle ages and Renaissance. It is pretty much synonymous with "witch."
Nothing to do with the name, but the way they are depicted in the art and lore of pathfinder
Could you walk me through this one? I haven’t heard this concern before, while the only snarl with Changelings I know of is some autism-related stuff.

They are hook nosed women (like im sorry some of the art could be straight out of 1930s propaganda posters) who are depicted as living on the edge of civilisations but never really part of them ("rootless cosmopolitans"). They steal children from those communities and eat them. I would recommend you research blood libel to see why this is so egregious.

From my interactions with people about this before, blood libel seems largely unknown to american gentiles which is why I think people miss this, but as a european it's so blatant and shocking.

I’m of Jewish heritage myself and familiar with blood libel, which is why I asked. I appreciate your explanation, but I’m afraid I don’t see it myself.

Hope the next volume is something more your speed!

That's fair and I'm not trying to tell anyone else what to feel about this, I just cannot bear to have this at my table so this book is looking like a miss for me.

I know one of the books is titled field of maidens which I'm definitely excited about since we might get more Holomog content


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Yes!! I'm very keen to see more of Holomog, and hopefully more Southern Garund soon after!

Still crossing my fingers that we get a 2e Inquisitor soon enough for me to play one in this path - Arazni feels tailor-made for this.

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For myself, I am looking forwards for creepy covens in the land of the dead.


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Wow! Super excited for hags! I've always thought they should be more prominent!

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2 out of 3 error amuses me :D


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CorvusMask wrote:
2 out of 3 error amuses me :D

It's an error?

Thank god!

Geb is definitely worthy of the full AP treatment, thank you, Paizo!

Dark Archive

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captain yesterday wrote:
CorvusMask wrote:
2 out of 3 error amuses me :D

It's an error?

Thank god!

Geb is definitely worthy of the full AP treatment, thank you, Paizo!

Part 1 is "1 out of 6", upper part lists this as AP "Blood Lords (#181-186)" and we already know names of all books from conventions ;D So yes its an error

Grand Lodge

Though we haven't seen it yet, if it is similar in design to 90% of published adventures out there, one will be able to switch out the Hag Coven for a coterie of Drow -- or a circle of Erinyes or Lamia or something. ....Likely this campaign plot is an attack on Geb from an antagonistic Demon Lord or Apocalypse Horseman, so an Outsider coven or the like will likely make more sense than Drow -- but in any case, swapping out a Green Hag and Annis Hag for two cultists of Zura or a Lamia Matriarch and a Dark Naga will likely work absolutely perfectly.

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(I understand your hatred of Hags. For me, I Absolutely HATE when movies or TV shows make a Witch from Salem, or imply or state that the Witch character lived in Salem centuries ago or learned magical secrets or necromancy there. I mean, I HATE it. I wish I could be Guillermo del Toro or Stephen King for ONE DAY -- to make a public announcement the world everywhere would hear, just to argue that no fictional Witch EVER should be tied to Salem. That in fact it would be better for a Fictional Witch to be asked or confronted in the text and reply, "Salem, no, no Witches have Ever lived in Salem." in a rather incredulous tone.)


I expect a conspiracy within Geb, rather than an external threat. We’ll see how true that prediction holds in a few months!

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We believe we have worked to keep antisemitic and misogynistic tropes out of this AP. Professional feedback is also welcome and expected after release. I'll post any content warnings here if I see them.

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This adventure's description lacks the "less than good hearted" epithet that the other parts have.

Should we expect a change of heart ?

Of course, in Geb, it could be literal.


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One thing I have learned after playing through Jason Tondro's Horizons of the Vast & Frozen Flame contributions (in the same month!) is that his AP's are a bit overtuned difficulty wise. Beware.

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