Pathfinder Adventure Path #174: Shadows of the Ancients (Strength of Thousands 6 of 6)

Pathfinder Adventure Path #174: Shadows of the Ancients (Strength of Thousands 6 of 6)

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Save the Magaambya! The heroes return to the Magaambya magic academy to find the villain they'd vanquished on a distant planet had set another scheme in motion long ago. Students and teachers have been twisted by evil magic, and the heroes must engage in legendary tests to gain the means to free them. While a monstrous foe thrashes through the Magaambya, it's up to the heroes to save the school from utter destruction!

"Shadows of the Ancients" is a Pathfinder adventure for four 18th-level characters by Saif Ansari. This adventure concludes the Strength of Thousands Adventure Path, a six-part, monthly campaign in which the heroes rise from humble students to influential teachers, and ultimately decide the fate of the Magaambya. This adventure provides guidance to tell stories that are like fables or set in truly unusual adventure locations, and concludes with a look at powerful monsters, magic, and abilities that only the mightiest Magaambyan heroes can claim!

Each monthly full-color softcover Pathfinder Adventure Path volume contains an in-depth adventure scenario, stats for several new monsters, and support articles meant to give Game Masters additional material to expand their campaign. Pathfinder Adventure Path volumes use the Open Game License and work with both the Pathfinder RPG and the world's oldest fantasy RPG.

ISBN-13: 978-1-64078-388-1

The Strength of Thousands Adventure Path is sanctioned for use in Pathfinder Society Organized Play. The rules for running this Adventure and Chronicle Sheets are available as a free download (954 KB PDF).

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I'm honestly grateful that I still have a volume and a half of Age of Ashes to get through before my party will have an opportunity to start up Strength of Thousands. My heart goes out to those with itchier trigger fingers than I, this is definitely a bummer to deal with.


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Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Pawns, Rulebook Subscriber

Just go ahead and release the PDF of this. We have been waiting on this volume of the AP since December. Where are the Pawns for this AP? If the physical volume is done and stuck at port [as they say it is] then the art is complete and Paizo has it all. What is Paizo not telling us here.

Grand Lodge

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Pathfinder Adventure, Lost Omens, Pawns, Rulebook Subscriber

Nothing. They do not release the PDF until the print product is shipped. Not having the product this late is an anomaly that is playing havoc with their established policies.


I think they said this AP isn’t getting pawns, but I might be mistaken.


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keftiu wrote:
I think they said this AP isn’t getting pawns, but I might be mistaken.

It's possible that the ongoing worldwide paper/cardboard shortage might have some influence on this. I could imagine that perhaps it's currently simply not possible to manufacture a product like this.

Grand Lodge

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Last update on pawns was Jan 4th. At least as far as I found at first glance.


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Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Oh, I fully admit that I only have myself to blame for starting the AP before all the books had come out. I’m frustrated, but I don’t blame Paizo for the shipping crisis and it’s not going to stop me from being a subscriber. I’m just going to be more careful about waiting until an AP has finished shipping before I start running them.


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keftiu wrote:
I think they said this AP isn’t getting pawns, but I might be mistaken.

This would be horrible! I suppose all Paizo print materials will be next. Paizo won't survive going 100% digital. I'll be done, I know that much.

Grand Lodge

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That would probably be why they aren’t going to abandon printed material.


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wrmusall wrote:
keftiu wrote:
I think they said this AP isn’t getting pawns, but I might be mistaken.
This would be horrible! I suppose all Paizo print materials will be next. Paizo won't survive going 100% digital. I'll be done, I know that much.

Don't threaten us with a good time.


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Totally Not Gorbacz wrote:
wrmusall wrote:
keftiu wrote:
I think they said this AP isn’t getting pawns, but I might be mistaken.
This would be horrible! I suppose all Paizo print materials will be next. Paizo won't survive going 100% digital. I'll be done, I know that much.
Don't threaten us with a good time.

Not sure I understand what you mean.

Paizo Employee Marketing & Media Manager

wrmusall wrote:
Totally Not Gorbacz wrote:
wrmusall wrote:
keftiu wrote:
I think they said this AP isn’t getting pawns, but I might be mistaken.
This would be horrible! I suppose all Paizo print materials will be next. Paizo won't survive going 100% digital. I'll be done, I know that much.
Don't threaten us with a good time.
Not sure I understand what you mean.

Some people love being all digital, others hate it, most are in between. Paizo focuses on being a print publisher, offers a few digital products, and partners with as many quality digital experts as it can for games, apps and tools. Adventures Ahead!


Aaron Shanks wrote:
wrmusall wrote:
Totally Not Gorbacz wrote:
wrmusall wrote:
keftiu wrote:
I think they said this AP isn’t getting pawns, but I might be mistaken.
This would be horrible!
Don't threaten us with a good time.
Not sure I understand what you mean.
Some people love being all digital, others hate it, most are in between. Paizo focuses on being a print publisher, offers a few digital products, and partners with as many quality digital experts as it can for games, apps and tools. Adventures Ahead!

What's happening? At printing? At data-making?


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Paper shortages have led to massive delays at printers everywhere, but especially overseas. Shipping blockages and delays - compounded by labor shortages at docks, for delivery trucks, and pretty much every single other step of the process - further slow things.

We’re three years into something that has killed literal millions of people, folks. Things don’t run as smooth as they have before all of this; be patient, especially because what Paizo sells are functionally toys - there are people dealing with equivalent delays for essentials.

Paizo Employee Marketing & Media Manager

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I hear you. I am not answering questions about pawns because we have a blog in development.


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Are that many people about to hit the 6th module already??

In my player game the GM and 1 player I did not gel well out so I bowed out sadly. Now I am just GMing it and after work schedule delays we are in mod 1 and 4 sessions in.

I always want to GM and play the freshest AP offerings so I never wait for the whole AP to pop up before getting things going. Not to many problems actually so that can may vary on that front. :)

Tom


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What I don't understand is...How is it that I have gotten 4 products that released after this was suppose to and another product that is on the way? If there is a shipping problem, then why are we getting things that released AFTER this? Is it a writer problem? An artist problem? A PUBLISHER PROBLEM? It makes no sense.


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wrmusall wrote:
What I don't understand is...How is it that I have gotten 4 products that released after this was suppose to and another product that is on the way? If there is a shipping problem, then why are we getting things that released AFTER this? Is it a writer problem? An artist problem? A PUBLISHER PROBLEM? It makes no sense.

I believe they have said elsewhere that the shipping container containing those books was held up in import somewhere along the way. Other subsequent ones have not been.


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Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
wrmusall wrote:
What I don't understand is...How is it that I have gotten 4 products that released after this was suppose to and another product that is on the way? If there is a shipping problem, then why are we getting things that released AFTER this? Is it a writer problem? An artist problem? A PUBLISHER PROBLEM? It makes no sense.

Shipping containers aren't first come first serve. They arrive, they get inspected, they get released. And I'm sure I'm simplifying this greatly. And if something in that container raises a flag and requires additional inspection, now our books are sitting aside waiting for that inspection.

Basically we don't hold up the line, we get pulled off to the side of the line. At least that is how I understand this.

Paizo Employee Marketing & Media Manager

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Right. Please visualize our books in boxes, in a shipping container or two or three, sitting in a port on the West Coast (probably Seattle) somewhere in a stack of other shipping containers because something else in the container required additional inspection.

Plus, imports are at a record high, so the port is full and ships are waiting to be unloaded in long queues.

And, until 20 minutes ago, container shortages have been limiting global trade. The breaking news is that "Container factory inventory is up to normal levels.”

Thank you for your patronage and patience in these times of uncertainty.


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Aaron Shanks wrote:

Right. Please visualize our books in boxes, in a shipping container or two or three, sitting in a port on the West Coast (probably Seattle) somewhere in a stack of other shipping containers because something else in the container required additional inspection.

Plus, imports are at a record high, so the port is full and ships are waiting to be unloaded in long queues.

And, until 20 minutes ago, container shortages have been limiting global trade. The breaking news is that "Container factory inventory is up to normal levels.”

Thank you for your patronage and patience in these times of uncertainty.

Thank you for explaining. This was much more helpful than what Totally Not Gorbacz had to say.

Shadow Lodge

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That’s because it’s Aaron’s job and not TNGs.

Paizo Employee Marketing & Media Manager

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It is everyone's job to make the forums a friendly and fun place where the community and Paizo staff can interact. Kindly, move back to discussing the product, please.

Customer Service Representative

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Removed some personally harassing posts and replies. Please be kind to each other.


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Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

I'm looking forward to see what these multiclass druid/wizard capstone feats are, as I've seen them billed as one of the big selling points for limiting the free archetype to just those two classes.

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I came to this thread since I realized there was a gap in my book shelves, and I am super happy with all the replies Paizo & Aaron have been giving. Most online retailers today would simply say "backorder" or "out-of-stock", but Paizo goes the extra mile to publicly answer questions and explain things out-right. KUDOS!

I also appreciate that Paizo supports their physical suppliers, such as FLGSs, by not releasing digital product until their physical products hit their street date. This AP's delay has shown that Paizo sticks by that philosophy and has not caved on their morals. Double KUDOS!!

As a TL;DR:
- Book delayed due to import issues
- Ports operate via top-of-stack instead of first-in-first-out, so the container is buried under more recent containers
- There are global supply-chain issues and this just happened to get caught in it
- People are people, so please be patient
- Aaron Shanks is awesome

Paizo Employee Marketing & Media Manager

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Justin Riddler wrote:

I came to this thread since I realized there was a gap in my book shelves, and I am super happy with all the replies Paizo & Aaron have been giving. Most online retailers today would simply say "backorder" or "out-of-stock", but Paizo goes the extra mile to publicly answer questions and explain things out-right. KUDOS!

I also appreciate that Paizo supports their physical suppliers, such as FLGSs, by not releasing digital product until their physical products hit their street date. This AP's delay has shown that Paizo sticks by that philosophy and has not caved on their morals. Double KUDOS!!

As a TL;DR:
- Book delayed due to import issues
- Ports operate via top-of-stack instead of first-in-first-out, so the container is buried under more recent containers
- There are global supply-chain issues and this just happened to get caught in it
- People are people, so please be patient
- Aaron Shanks is awesome

Thank you, kindly.


Justin Riddler wrote:

As a TL;DR:

- Book delayed due to import issues
- Ports operate via top-of-stack instead of first-in-first-out, so the container is buried under more recent containers
- There are global supply-chain issues and this just happened to get caught in it
- People are people, so please be patient
- Aaron Shanks is awesome

Absalom Book was, too.


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Pawns, Rulebook Subscriber

any updates? It's March.

Grand Lodge

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Blog says yes.

Paizo Employee Marketing & Media Manager

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MARCH 2022 New Releases and Subscription Shipping


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Got my email! Pumped to be able to read the conclusion to this amazing AP!


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

To anyone who has gotten their PDF, Any new Witch options?


So when can we expect the PDF of this to be available for purchase?


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↑ Yes, on street date (30th March, according to the link Aaron provided above).


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Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Haven't seen anyone post the Tool box stuff yet, so here you go!

-Opens with the Campaign Repercussions, as typical for a final book in the AP
- Artifacts of the Magaambya (4)
- 10 new capstone feats. All of which are Druid/Wizard Archetype feats. And all 10 modeled after the original Ten Magic Warriors.
- 8 Creatures


Pathfinder Adventure, Adventure Path, Rulebook Subscriber

Anyone else seeing that their order is complete, but the PDF isn't in their downloads? I have QotFF 3 in my downloads, so it's not the order as a whole that's the issue it seems.

EDIT: While it's not in my downloads page, there is at least a workaround until that's resolved. At the top of this page where it says "Click here to see the download you have for this product", clicking there does give me the PDF. Honestly didn't know that was there, so hadn't used it before.


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The capstone feats are so freaking cool, and thematic.

Paizo Employee Marketing & Media Manager

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VestOfHolding wrote:

Anyone else seeing that their order is complete, but the PDF isn't in their downloads? I have QotFF 3 in my downloads, so it's not the order as a whole that's the issue it seems.

EDIT: While it's not in my downloads page, there is at least a workaround until that's resolved. At the top of this page where it says "Click here to see the download you have for this product", clicking there does give me the PDF. Honestly didn't know that was there, so hadn't used it before.

Please email customer service with any persistent issues.


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I've read through it, and am very pleased to report that it stuck the landing! All of the relevant plot threads have been seen through, and we catch up with a number of prominent NPCs from earlier in the AP (some I expected, some I didn't). The climax was extended compared to most others, but in a way that makes sense for the story (I can't say more without getting spoilery). I was left with the feeling that this is just the beginning for this party, what with them being the new Magic Warriors (not a spoiler, this was released in promo material). If Paizo were to do, oh I don't know, a three part mythic AP, making it a sequel to SoT would be an excellent idea. Just throwing that out there.


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Evan Tarlton wrote:
I've read through it, and am very pleased to report that it stuck the landing! All of the relevant plot threads have been seen through, and we catch up with a number of prominent NPCs from earlier in the AP (some I expected, some I didn't). The climax was extended compared to most others, but in a way that makes sense for the story (I can't say more without getting spoilery). I was left with the feeling that this is just the beginning for this party, what with them being the new Magic Warriors (not a spoiler, this was released in promo material). If Paizo were to do, oh I don't know, a three part mythic AP, making it a sequel to SoT would be an excellent idea. Just throwing that out there.

If it is popular enough and Paizo do go a mythic route I could maybe see a hardcover adventure book following. Somethihg like the dead god's hand book (yet to materialize)


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When will the pdf be available for purchase?


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Mark Edwards 549 wrote:
When will the pdf be available for purchase?

On street date -- March 30th (according to the most recent blog update on new products & subscribers' shipping above).

Paizo Employee Marketing & Media Manager

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Roll20 virtual tabletop plans to have this product available for purchase on their site on release day.


I just went to buy the pdf and it says unavailable...
every other AP PDF that was supposed to release today is already up for sale what gives?


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This has happened a few times with products that were delayed, like this one. There's nothing to do but wait until morning in Seattle, when the customer service team goes to work.

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