Pathfinder Guns & Gears

I am not usually a guns in fantasy kind of guy but I am so excited for this book.

Fan fact: Few of armors developed because of Guns in real life.

Any idea when we will get the profiles on the new Iconics. I really loved the new Summoner's history. The Dwarf Gunslinger and half-orc(?) inventor has got me on the edge of my seat.

Fan fact: Few of armors developed because of Guns in real life.

True, the development of armor predates the invention of guns by several centuries. OTOH, kevlar armor was not developed to stop swords.

Between the inclusion of explosives and archetypes in this book, I strongly suspect that some sort of Demolitionist archetype is in this one.

Any idea when we will get the profiles on the new Iconics. I really loved the new Summoner's history. The Dwarf Gunslinger and half-orc(?) inventor has got me on the edge of my seat.

They will be showcased before the book launches with two blogs each. Thanks for your enthusiasm!

Michael Sayre wrote:

belgrath9344 wrote:

does this mean the book is now complete?

It means the digital files went off to our printing partner two Fridays ago to be transformed into physical books, yes!

This is why physical book only errata happened in Mwangi book huh?

I would likely guess so. The problems/perils of physical publishing.

Knighttrap wrote:

Any idea when we will get the profiles on the new Iconics. I really loved the new Summoner's history. The Dwarf Gunslinger and half-orc(?) inventor has got me on the edge of my seat.

They will be showcased before the book launches with two blogs each. Thanks for your enthusiasm!

Thanks for the reply. I'm guessing there is not timeline on them?

Aaron Shanks wrote:

Knighttrap wrote:

Any idea when we will get the profiles on the new Iconics. I really loved the new Summoner's history. The Dwarf Gunslinger and half-orc(?) inventor has got me on the edge of my seat.

They will be showcased before the book launches with two blogs each. Thanks for your enthusiasm!

Thanks for the reply. I'm guessing there is not timeline on them?

We have a blog calendar, but I don't want to set exceptions that might need to change. Our focus is on Secrets of Magic before Guns & Gears. Thanks.

Knighttrap wrote:

Aaron Shanks wrote:

Knighttrap wrote:

Any idea when we will get the profiles on the new Iconics. I really loved the new Summoner's history. The Dwarf Gunslinger and half-orc(?) inventor has got me on the edge of my seat.

They will be showcased before the book launches with two blogs each. Thanks for your enthusiasm!

Thanks for the reply. I'm guessing there is not timeline on them?

We have a blog calendar, but I don't want to set exceptions that might need to change. Our focus is on Secrets of Magic before Guns & Gears. Thanks.

Completely understand. I'm looking forward to both books.

Knighttrap wrote:

Aaron Shanks wrote:

Knighttrap wrote:

Any idea when we will get the profiles on the new Iconics. I really loved the new Summoner's history. The Dwarf Gunslinger and half-orc(?) inventor has got me on the edge of my seat.

They will be showcased before the book launches with two blogs each. Thanks for your enthusiasm!

Thanks for the reply. I'm guessing there is not timeline on them?

We have a blog calendar, but I don't want to set exceptions that might need to change. Our focus is on Secrets of Magic before Guns & Gears. Thanks.

Can't wait for the SoM blogs to start! The Hype tbf, already did.

Where can I see the final cover for this one?

Where can I see the final cover for this one?

Here's a Screenshot from Paizocon.

I hope a map of Alkenstar is in the book! want to use the city as the hq for my campaigns alchemist enemy

I hope a map of Alkenstar is in the book! want to use the city as the hq for my campaigns alchemist enemy

The module "Wardens of the Reborn Forge" has a poster map of Alkenstar and a 7-page gazetteer.

The Gold Sovereign wrote:

Where can I see the final cover for this one?

Here's a Screenshot from Paizocon.

Thanks for sharing! That's an amazing cover.

The-Magic-Sword wrote:

The Gold Sovereign wrote:

Where can I see the final cover for this one?

Here's a Screenshot from Paizocon.

Thanks for sharing! That's an amazing cover.

Our first meeting to talk about what the cover should be, Jason goes "It's probably the iconics fighting fire giants in a big forge, right? Wayne can put in lots of vibrant reds and dynamic shadows, we can get some big gears and chains in, should look good, yeah?"

We did spitball around other ideas, but the thing Jason suggested right off the bat ended up being the thing that everyone agreed just made the most sense! I think it really turned out well.

Do we know anything about Heritages for Constructs?

Do we know anything about Heritages for Constructs?

Not yet, at least not that I've seen. I expect we'll get some info when the previews start.

keftiu wrote:

Do we know anything about Heritages for Constructs?

Not yet, at least not that I've seen. I expect we'll get some info when the previews start.

Speaking of, the GenCon Online streaming schedule is up and you may notice that Thursday includes a designer showcase for Guns & Gears! We're going to have at least one cool announcement related to the automatons and will be showcasing at least one automaton heritage and feat during the panel, so tune in if you can!

Looking forward to it, Michael!

Evan Tarlton wrote:

keftiu wrote:

Do we know anything about Heritages for Constructs?

Not yet, at least not that I've seen. I expect we'll get some info when the previews start.

Speaking of, the GenCon Online streaming schedule is up and you may notice that Thursday includes a designer showcase for Guns & Gears! We're going to have at least one cool announcement related to the automatons and will be showcasing at least one automaton heritage and feat during the panel, so tune in if you can!

That is very exciting news! Please showcase as much art as you can of all the gadgets, guns, scenery from Arcadia, and illustrations of feats in action, too.

Has the release date been changed for this product?

Jeez still so long to go... Can't you just give us Guns&gears now and Secrets of Magic in October?!!!

Has the release date been changed for this product?

Not recently, though it's very likely/possible that it will get delayed as cross-Pacific shipping issues continue

Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:

Has the release date been changed for this product?

Not recently, though it's very likely/possible that it will get delayed as cross-Pacific shipping issues continue

It remains at October 13, for now.

Do we know anything about how the Way of the Spellshot works? I’m struggling to imagine anything other than a Starlit Span Magus with a gun.

…speaking of, how hard will proficiency with firearms be to get? Is it GM fiat, or must it be purchased with a feat/Archetype?

…speaking of, how hard will proficiency with firearms be to get? Is it GM fiat, or must it be purchased with a feat/Archetype?

Just like in the playtest, firearms come in simple and martial versions (plus a few advanced for the final release), so getting proficiency is essentially as easy as getting proficiency in any other weapon. They continue to be uncommon though, so gaining access by being from one of the several places mentioned to grant access or getting clearance from your GM is the primary toggle for using them.

Do we know anything about how the Way of the Spellshot works? I’m struggling to imagine anything other than a Starlit Span Magus with a gun.

One of the obvious questions is whether it will be BYOS (Bring Your Own Spells) or if any casting - presumably cantrips - would be included. It might be set up to work something like Starlit Span but just give incredibly limited casting on its own, so that any additional spells have to come through archetypes and therefore eat up class feats. Maybe a structure kind of like eldritch trickster? "Here, have a caster archetype, it comes with two cantrips, if you want more that's on you?"

What are the odds Inventors get an ability to swap the damage type of their Weapon Invention to something like fire or electricity? It wasn’t in the playtest, but I’d /really/ like the ability to be hauling away my precious homemade lightning gun.

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I hope we get some kind of steampunk tank like viechle or even steampunk biplane

Love the cover!!

I do notice that the thumbnail has been updated to the final cover, but the link still takes us to the placeholder cover.

I do notice that the thumbnail has been updated to the final cover, but the link still takes us to the placeholder cover.

Yes. There are a host of little issues like this. We are struggling with the technology. It is no basket of roses for us either. I'll mention it internally.

No worries, just something I noticed as I was looking to take a closer look at the spine. Thanks for all you do Aaron!

Is the new construct ancestry on the cover?

Is the new construct ancestry on the cover?

No, the new Ancestry is Jistkan Automata. A quick search for “Pathfinder automata” should show you a bunch of cool constructs with one glowing eye; it’s those.

Will there be info on how they are different from androids?

Oh I did a Google search and I like them, very neat!

Will there be info on how they are different from androids?

Androids are creatures of incredible technology made by a sci-fi culture on another world; Automata are souls magically stuffed into crafted bodies by an ancient empire of artificers. They have a pretty distinct flavor even before getting into the mechanics we don't yet have.

Warforged?

Warforged?

I think conceptually the automatons would be closer to warforged than the androids are, but the lore as I understand it is markedly different, and visually the Jistkan Automatons are much less humanoid than even the warforged, who at least have humanoid-ish faces.

Androids are "synthetic humans", so they have supple polymer skins, nanofibers structured like muscles to move their skeletons, actual organs, and a synthetic fluid that mimic blood enough that they can get infected, and the false biology is so close to a human's that they can get infected with poisons and diseases like most living beings. Their bodies are so lifelike that wandering souls end up being drawn to these bodies, and they wake up as fully living creatures.

Automatons are metal constructs made eons ago by powerful casters that uploaded their souls into magical cores fitted into these mechanical bodies.

(As androids have been released for PF2, I know more about them. :P )

Warforged?

Warforged are a third, distinct thing, as they were recently invented (within the last fifty years) and seem to be newborn souls - distinct from the sci-fi androids and the ancient, human-souled automatons.

Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:

Warforged?

Warforged are a third, distinct thing, as they were recently invented (within the last fifty years) and seem to be newborn souls - distinct from the sci-fi androids and the ancient, human-souled automatons.

Androids house newborn souls as well. In fact, while their souls are capable of reincarnation forms, reincarnated souls can not be housed in an Android body. This would suggest that the soul possessing the Android would have had to go through the entire process of being created anew in order to be an Android. Probably has something to do with the purity of a soul at that point? Who knows.

But, that still seems accurate. The distinction, perhaps is maybe that the souls present in Warforged are maybe spontaneously developed ones, created outside the normal cycle of existence? It's been a while since I dove into the lore of D&D at all. So I couldn't say for sure.

So, they seem to have more in common with Android than Automaton; the difference being more the time frame and method of creation.

I do not know what is Warforged soul status(google said some of them wonder if they even have them), but either way they are magical artificial soldiers that have great deal of personality.

So in that respect yes bit similar, androids are advanced intelligent biotechnological robots that were so advanced that they attracted soul stuff to them though they weren't intended to. So both are similar in that they were originally created as form of servants, I think main difference is that one of them is strictly scientific and one of them is strictly magical :p

keftiu wrote:

Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:

Warforged?

Warforged are a third, distinct thing, as they were recently invented (within the last fifty years) and seem to be newborn souls - distinct from the sci-fi androids and the ancient, human-souled automatons.

Androids house newborn souls as well. In fact, while their souls are capable of reincarnation forms, reincarnated souls can not be housed in an Android body. This would suggest that the soul possessing the Android would have had to go through the entire process of being created anew in order to be an Android. Probably has something to do with the purity of a soul at that point? Who knows.

But, that still seems accurate. The distinction, perhaps is maybe that the souls present in Warforged are maybe spontaneously developed ones, created outside the normal cycle of existence? It's been a while since I dove into the lore of D&D at all. So I couldn't say for sure.

So, they seem to have more in common with Android than Automaton; the difference being more the time frame and method of creation.

Maybe it could be that a reincarnated soul has already been in a real living body, so know the difference and can't be tricked into thinking the android body is a fully biological living being?

Maybe it could be that a reincarnated soul has already been in a real living body, so know the difference and can't be tricked into thinking the android body is a fully biological living being?

"Wait a minute, this meatsuit isn't right. It's not even meat!"

Elfteiroh wrote:

Maybe it could be that a reincarnated soul has already been in a real living body, so know the difference and can't be tricked into thinking the android body is a fully biological living being?

"Wait a minute, this meatsuit isn't right. It's not even meat!"

-A soul contemplating reincarnation, probably.

“Now, be fair, Bob, your last meatsuit wore down pretty quickly with the plague. This one looks stronger, and it’s automatic, it's systematic, it's hyyyyydromatic, why it’s greased lightning.” - Another soul, who apparently went to Rydale High, who’s sick of Bob being picky with his meatsuits, probably.