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Are there actually going to be stat blocks for all the monsters, it's pretty much worthless to me without stat blocks.
No offense to the talented writers, I'm sure they're doing a splendid job, just telling it like it is.

Sporkedup |

Are there actually going to be stat blocks for all the monsters, it's pretty much worthless to me without stat blocks.
No offense to the talented writers, I'm sure they're doing a splendid job, just telling it like it is.
I'd expect so...
Hell I think the Sandpoint Devil already has been statted up... Bestiary 2 maybe?

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captain yesterday wrote:Are there actually going to be stat blocks for all the monsters, it's pretty much worthless to me without stat blocks.
No offense to the talented writers, I'm sure they're doing a splendid job, just telling it like it is.
I'd expect so...
Hell I think the Sandpoint Devil already has been statted up... Bestiary 2 maybe?
Inner Sea World Guide.
Fafnheir is in Lands of the Linnorm Kings.

captain yesterday |
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Every monster will have their stat blocks. We made sure to have a large variety of monsters of varying levels so you have suitable challenges for any campaign, no matter the level of the PCs.
Excellent! As much as I like Legends the complete lack of stat blocks makes it my least used or read Lost Omens book, which even I found surprising as I usually don't get hung up on it, but with every NPC now being unique onto themselves it was a surprising let down for me.

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Sporkedup wrote:Inner Sea World Guide.captain yesterday wrote:Are there actually going to be stat blocks for all the monsters, it's pretty much worthless to me without stat blocks.
No offense to the talented writers, I'm sure they're doing a splendid job, just telling it like it is.
I'd expect so...
Hell I think the Sandpoint Devil already has been statted up... Bestiary 2 maybe?
Nope, I was right. Bestiary 2.

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But approximately how many pages long?!
I have zero info, [AGAIN, SPECULATIONS], but I would bet it will have about the same number of pages as the Legends book, so ~128 pages. A small number of pages for the glossindex and miscellaneous, and an average of 6 pages per monster. Might be a smaller average if there are articles not directly related to each monster though. At 5 pages each on average (half with 4, half with 6), it leaves us with ~20 pages for other articles.

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Every monster will have their stat blocks. We made sure to have a large variety of monsters of varying levels so you have suitable challenges for any campaign, no matter the level of the PCs.
For the case of the Sandpoint Devil, will it just be a re-print of the Bestiary 2 statblock? If that's the case, are there any other creatures in this book that have already been printed too?

captain yesterday |
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captain yesterday wrote:Nope, I was right. Bestiary 2.Sporkedup wrote:Inner Sea World Guide.captain yesterday wrote:Are there actually going to be stat blocks for all the monsters, it's pretty much worthless to me without stat blocks.
No offense to the talented writers, I'm sure they're doing a splendid job, just telling it like it is.
I'd expect so...
Hell I think the Sandpoint Devil already has been statted up... Bestiary 2 maybe?
It would seem I haven't looked at the 2nd edition Bestiary in quite some time, I didn't even know it was in there.
I was referring to first edition, so we're both correct!

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Fafnheir, the Father of All Linnorms!
I hope it has as much information as the Unleashed series from 1E (dragons unleashed, undead unleashed, etc).
I hope to see the Tarrasque or maybe a Kaiju...
the tarrasque has stats in the final age of ashes book. I personally want stats for the the whispering tyrant

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Jason Tondro confirmed on Twitter (HERE) that he wrote up both Fafnheir and the Grogrisant for this book. So we can mark off another magical beast to the pile!
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This book is 128 pages? 6 per pages creature?
My assumption is the page count must be some multiple of 16 unless printing tech has changed and I didn't notice.

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This is not a book for me, but I’m glad it has an audience!
Do realize that dedicated monster lore book should be important in lot of ways ;D
I mean what are mythical monsters if not because of how they affect people living near their lairs and such!
(I'm hoping this is as amazing book as Lost Omen Legends was)

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Luis Loza wrote:Every monster will have their stat blocks. We made sure to have a large variety of monsters of varying levels so you have suitable challenges for any campaign, no matter the level of the PCs.Excellent! As much as I like Legends the complete lack of stat blocks makes it my least used or read Lost Omens book, which even I found surprising as I usually don't get hung up on it, but with every NPC now being unique onto themselves it was a surprising let down for me.
I do understand why since statblocks ARE fun even if you never use them, but most of Legends characters weren't really type you'd need NPC stats for :'D (and the few ones that were, well there aren't rules for level 26 creatures yet for Tar-Babhon nor rules how to have players ready fight them, so I think its too early until there is equivalent of mythic for 2e) Like, while in 1e every ruler had level, it rarely was relevant for neutral or good aligned rulers outside of "what kind of monster could threaten them as part of your adventure?". Level of Galt's First Citizen isn't particularly relevant for political maneuvers.
(that said, I still would have loved if all legends npcs had statblocks xD I do miss levels being listed for rulers)

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To the person asking, Tar-baphon almost certainly will not be in this because he was already in legends.
This looks awesome. December feels so far away, especially when one of my PCs wants to find a kaiju as soon as possible.
I wonder if any “monstrous” ancestries will sneak their way in here, given that Grand Bazaar has an ancestry we didn’t find out about until months after it’s announcement

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To the person asking, Tar-baphon almost certainly will not be in this because he was already in legends.
This looks awesome. December feels so far away, especially when one of my PCs wants to find a kaiju as soon as possible.
I wonder if any “monstrous” ancestries will sneak their way in here, given that Grand Bazaar has an ancestry we didn’t find out about until months after it’s announcement
I hope some sort of PC options sneak in here.
A Sorcerer bloodline for some kind of kaiju would be a delight.

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Am I the only one that has questions about the power levels of kaiju vs things like the whispering tyrant or servants of deities, and who's really strongest in the world?
If godzilla is godzilla it will be blatting "ultimate" divine champions like solar angels and starstone-capable mortals and the tarrasque like flies, and if it's level 15 it's going to be weirdly lame.

Ezekieru |

Am I the only one that has questions about the power levels of kaiju vs things like the whispering tyrant or servants of deities, and who's really strongest in the world?
If godzilla is godzilla it will be blatting "ultimate" divine champions like solar angels and starstone-capable mortals and the tarrasque like flies, and if it's level 15 it's going to be weirdly lame.
The equivalent to Godzilla, King Mogaru, was CR 28 in PF1E, so he'll probably be level 28 in this edition. So given that, we probably won't see his actual statblock until we get the equivalent to Mythhic rules.
(Although, Mogaru is supposed to be involved somehow in the last book of the new Fists of the Ruby Phoenix AP, so who knows?)

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Oh, wow! Will there be lair maps and/or hand-outs in this book? It would be great if it did include both. :)
I imagine at least some monsters will have supplemental features like that, given the 6 pages per monster estimation made earlier. I'm thinking two pages of lore, two pages for statblock (high level creature statblocks get big), and then two pages for extra PC options, maps, handouts, treasure they guard, etc.

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Luis Loza wrote:Every monster will have their stat blocks. We made sure to have a large variety of monsters of varying levels so you have suitable challenges for any campaign, no matter the level of the PCs.For the case of the Sandpoint Devil, will it just be a re-print of the Bestiary 2 statblock? If that's the case, are there any other creatures in this book that have already been printed too?
Rather than reprint the stats of existing monsters, such as the Sandpoint Devil, we point readers to the existing stat block and provide alternate mechanics in this book. These mechanics might take the form of new, related monsters that can add more foes in a related campaign, new abilities to swap in to the existing monster to give you new ways to use them in your games, or something else entirely!