Defender of the Society trait question.


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If I had the trait Defender of the Society (Benefit: You gain a +1 trait bonus to Armor Class when wearing medium or heavy armor.) Would wearing a Mithril Chain Shirt w/ Mithril Armored Kilt negate the +1 trait bonus?

Grand Lodge

The only thing that combo counts as is light armor, except proficiency, and that's it.


blackbloodtroll wrote:
The only thing that combo counts as is light armor, except proficiency, and that's it.

Really? Is there an exception for a Mithril Armomed Kilt? Because I see a set of medium armor reduced to light then increased back up to medium, that may or may not require heavy armor proficiency.

Grand Lodge

When you combine the two, you still need medium armor proficiency, as basically, the two become one. Mithral does not change this. This has been addressed.


Duh. Chain shirt. My bad.


blackbloodtroll wrote:
The only thing that combo counts as is light armor, except proficiency, and that's it.

...Source on that, please?

The PRD entry says it only counts as lighter "for purposes of movement and other limitations."

Spoiler:
Most mithral armors are one category lighter than normal for purposes of movement and other limitations. Heavy armors are treated as medium, and medium armors are treated as light, but light armors are still treated as light. This decrease does not apply to proficiency in wearing the armor. A character wearing mithral full plate must be proficient in wearing heavy armor to avoid adding the armor's check penalty to all his attack rolls and skill checks that involve moving. Spell failure chances for armors and shields made from mithral are decreased by 10%, maximum Dexterity bonuses are increased by 2, and armor check penalties are decreased by 3 (to a minimum of 0).

So until you can prove otherwise, the answer to the OP's question is that since an armored kilt makes the whole set count as medium armor, Defender of the Society trait would provide you with +1 AC, even if the kilt and base armor were both mithral.


Well, you could argue that qualifying for feats is a limitation.

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