Pathfinder Beginner Box

Announced for November! Product image and description are not final and may be subject to change.

YAS! Can't wait

YES.

Well, this is sooner than I expected.

I've been waiting for this.

Ooh, I know what I'm giving for Christmas gifts this year.

I'm wondering how much I hate my brother right now...

Awesome!

\(^o^)/

Are the pawns (other than the PC) going to be unique, or repeats of the Bestiary ones?

Will there be a release of the adventure in PDF? I've been trying to go strictly PDF as it's easier for me.

I love Pathfinder. It has given me countless hours of fun. I love Pathfinder 2, I think it's a great update and addition to the game. I have a 5 year old and, as 5 year olds are wont to do, he wants to play "Daddy's game." But as much as I would love to play a game with him, he's just starting to read and a 500 page tomb like the CRB is just too much for him. I am pretty excited about this, as it will be a simpler and less vast option for me to play with him. This will definitely be under the tree at our house this year. Really looking forward to this.

Very nice. I do like the unag re on the cover.

That green dragon will rue the day it hurt that innocent mushroom!

Me thinks that the mushroom is of the psychedelic kind and the dragon is protecting the party from ingesting said mushrooms.

A green dragon would not do that. ;-)

Looking forward to this beginners box after two great beginner boxes. Will get a lot of use getting people into the game.

Woohoo! One of my favorite products updated.

Will it have slightly watered down rules like the PF1E Beginner box had?

I think so.

Will it have slightly watered down rules like the PF1E Beginner box had?

Unrevealed as of yet. Personally, I'm betting on regular rules with fewer options (i.e., limited ancestries, classes, feats, etc. to choose from).

Will it have slightly watered down rules like the PF1E Beginner box had?

Erik Mona answered me on Facebook.

"no these are the full rules, only with fewer choices and more attention paid to explaining the concepts. Your Beginner Box character will be 100% compatible with the Core Rules."

Excellent, I was hoping for PF2BB to be full rules sans some options.

P2 rules are already pretty simple. You just don't need 150+ pages of spells ranging from 1-10. Just include level 1 spells (and not even the uncommon ones).

This decision also means that if you want to run a Beginner Box adventure but you want to use a different monster, for instance, you can just do it if you have access to the Bestiary, and if you want to level past the upper range of the box, you just can if you have access to the CRB, using your same character.

I liked my 1e box. This should be great as well.

It is good to hear that the beginner box will use the full Rules.

So we can use all the skills right from the start (even skills such as entertain, crafting or survival (which were not included in the 1st edition Beginner box).

I am also looking forward to the "starting town" of Otari (the "stat block" is already included in the gamemastery guide, but I hope we will get a map, too).

And last but not least more pawns are always better.

It is good to hear that the beginner box will use the full Rules.

So we can use all the skills right from the start (even skills such as entertain, crafting or survival (which were not included in the 1st edition Beginner box).

I think you missed the fewer choices part of the comment.

It's not clear from that paraphrase that ALL of anything will be available in the Beginner Box rules.

For example, it looks like it will only include four classes.

It's not clear from that paraphrase that ALL of anything will be available in the Beginner Box rules.

For example, it looks like it will only include four classes.

I am aware of the facts that:

I am completely fine with the choice of Fighter, Rogue, Cleric and Wizard, this is the "classic" adventuring party and a great entrance point for new and experienced gamers.

I would not want the full rules in the beginner box, too.

But I just hope to see the comlplete skill list including skills such as Entertain, Intimidation, Crafting or Survival (skills like these were not included in the Pathfinder 1 Beginner Box since the Skills list -though shorter compared to D&D 3.5- was still quite long) so we can have even more variety in playing the published adventures and designing our own ones.

That class list suggests that the BB will have only two of the four traditions, Divine and Arcane, which is fine with me.

CrystalSeas wrote:

It's not clear from that paraphrase that ALL of anything will be available in the Beginner Box rules.

For example, it looks like it will only include four classes.

I am aware of the facts that:

- we will have only 4 classes instead of 12 to choose from
- That we maybe only get to choose between 2 feats instead of 4 per level
- that maybe our cleric will just get to choose between 10 Level 1 Spells instead of 21.
- that the beginner box will again go up to about level 5.

I am completely fine with the choice of Fighter, Rogue, Cleric and Wizard, this is the "classic" adventuring party and a great entrance point for new and experienced gamers.

I would not want the full rules in the beginner box, too.

But I just hope to see the comlplete skill list including skills such as Entertain, Intimidation, Crafting or Survival (skills like these were not included in the Pathfinder 1 Beginner Box since the Skills list -though shorter compared to D&D 3.5- was still quite long) so we can have even more variety in playing the published adventures and designing our own ones.

I remember someone saying that there would be a few actions missing from the BB, the example used was Fly as no one can do that at the levels of the BB. So I would expect we get all the skills, but not necessarily all of the actions for each skill and not any feats that require Expert in a skill.

My group started off with the Starfinder BB before we moved on to the core rules, and we were kind of disappointed with the differences between the two. We had to rejigger the characters a relearn stuff.
I hope the PF2 box is closer to core. Like the PF1 box was.

My group started off with the Starfinder BB before we moved on to the core rules, and we were kind of disappointed with the differences between the two. We had to rejigger the characters a relearn stuff.

I hope the PF2 box is closer to core. Like the PF1 box was.

I believe they confirmed above that it is the same as core, just with a lot cut out that doesn't get covered in the adventure. Things like 8 of the core classes, probably a lot of the complex conditions, and so forth.

Like the PF1 box was.

My experience with the PF1 Beginner Box was that it has some major differences from core (like no Attacks of Opportunity), and moving from the BB to Core was a real struggle to unlearn tactics and strategies for my new-to-Pathfinder players.

Strategies that worked just fine for PF1 BB scenarios were deadly for the players when used in "regular" PF1 games.

I'm hoping from the staff comments that there won't be this kind of disconnect between the rules for PF2 Beginner Box and the Core Rulebook.

During PaizoCon Online it was revealed that PF2BB will use the same ruleset as PF2 full. So, unlike the PF1 Beginner Box, which was significantly different from the full game.

In light of the announcement that the Accessories Subscription line will now include digital assets, can staff tell us whether the pawns and game reference cards will be included in the digital assets of the Beginner Box?

I like that this is part of the rulebook subscription.

I like that this is part of the rulebook subscription.

The page says it isn't?

I like that this is part of the rulebook subscription.

It's not part of any subscription.

It is under the rulebooks section.

It is under the rulebooks section.

It is a rulebook, but the subscription does not include every Rulebook.

This page would show it in the “upcoming products in this subscription” section, if it were a subscription item. As you can see, the only currently announced future item is the Advanced Player’s Guide.

In PF1 they did include the beginner box as a subscription item from memory, and they received a lot of flak for it.

Typically when they used to do this, subscribers who preordered such titles received any associated PDFs for free. Not sure if they’re going to continue with that into the future though.

“Note: Due to the special nature of this product, the Pathfinder Beginner Box is not included in any of our subscriptions.”

va bene.

Any indication if there will be PDF or other electronic versions? In the current age of "Stay away from everybody" many of us are now doing our games online. I would love to be able to run this every now and then via our Virtual Table Tops. Please? Please?

Any indication if there will be PDF or other electronic versions? In the current age of "Stay away from everybody" many of us are now doing our games online. I would love to be able to run this every now and then via our Virtual Table Tops. Please? Please?

The PF1 Beginner Box download had the following PDF files

And the following "Additional Material" PDFs
1. Character Sheet
2 Flip mat
3 Pregen Cleric
4 Pregen Fighter
5 Pregen Rogue
6 Pregen Wizard
7 Token Sheet ((the pawns that came in the box, as a PDF)

There were also several additional Beginner Box files later, including, IIRC, an adventure or two, and some additional classes.

There were also several additional Beginner Box files later, including, IIRC, an adventure or two, and some additional classes.

Probably won't get free adventures, as they already have some for preorder.

Hmmm...I noticed that the description references a "full-color double-sided adventure map," rather than a flip-mat. I wonder if that is just odd phrasing, or possibly a cost-saving measure? I suspect the latter, given the minimal price hike over the 1E version, additional of the reference cards, etc.

Also curious if subscribers will get the PDF's if pre-ordering. I'm assuming not since other recent products (like Flip Mat Classics) have the product note specifying that subscribers who preorder will get the PDF. The note on this page is lacking that language

Announced for November! Product image and description are not final and may be subject to change.

Is the adventure going to be Dragon's Demand? I GMed that for a group that fizzled out. I've always wanted to play it as a PC.

Katina Davis wrote:

Announced for November! Product image and description are not final and may be subject to change.

Is the adventure going to be Dragon's Demand? I GMed that for a group that fizzled out. I've always wanted to play it as a PC.

Dragon's Demand is completely unrelated to this. It's a new adventure in a new location.