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Re current cover art: Really nice painting! Very evocative of the tomb raiding/archaeological adventurer concept of the Pathfinder Society.
The only part of it that bothers me is that I always thought Koriah had a really high Perception...
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Probably gonna be a skip from me, unless it has a lot of Lodges detailed gacross the setting (like those in the Mwangi Expanse and Tian Xia). The Society has just never hooked me.
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Meh... not really high on my list of must haves. I'll reserve judgement until I read it though.
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Probably gonna be a skip from me, unless it has a lot of Lodges detailed gacross the setting (like those in the Mwangi Expanse and Tian Xia). The Society has just never hooked me.
It does, in fact, detail at least one brand new lodge in the Mwangi Expanse, and a major lodge in Tian Xia, as well as discussing Pathfinders of note from the edges of the Inner Sea and beyond. There may be other items on that vein you might be interested in.
It's also got some mechanics I'm super excited about that'll be useful for a wide array of characters of all types and traditions.
Obviously I have a certain professional bias, but I'd encourage you to check it out when it becomes available.
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Does it say anything about that Druma lodge I have heard so much about? ;)
Loving the covers for the Lost Omens series.
But... I'm not really into the society. Maybe this book can change my mind?
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Oh, it's Koriah!
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Definitely a must have for me as a Society player. I just love the global aspect of our organization. Having the capability to play my characters in our universal campaign anywhere we gather is one of the best things about playing Pathfinder. That's what drew me to Pathfinder in the first place.
Can this art be final? its actually really wonderful
I'm ok with this, so long as it has enough mechanics in it- I enjoy reading and collecting the lore books, but my games take place in a home made setting fairly different from Golarion, so I'm mostly looting them for mechanics, so I love a good balance.
Though man, I can't wait to see more ancestries, even the APG doesn't have Kitsune, since I know they were considered for the LOCG, hopefully they're not too far off in the Lost Omens guide.
Yay! Koriah!
It does look like Koriah. Plus one for this to be final art
Artwork is not usually a big deal for me, and I have no idea who Koriah is. But, wow! That is an amazing cover!
Looks like fun!
If they change anything on the cover I bet it's how she's holding her sword.
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Exactly! It definitely will tie into Organized Play and be a great boon for players and GMs that are part of the Organized Play campaign. However, we've designed this book for use by all groups. This book is perfect for players who don't play in Organized Play but still want to learn about and play characters who are part of the Pathfinder Society. It's also meant to be the go-to resource for GMs who wish to include the Pathfinder Society in their games without having to learn the ins and outs of Organized Play.
It will definitely have some connections to the Organized Play campaign that regulars will be able to spot and be full of fun easter eggs for those in the now, but still functions as a valuable tool even without that kind of "insider knowledge."
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Very cool!
Not a PFS player but I love the organizations in Golarion. Depending on how the Absalom book works, this might be the fourth Lost Omens book to feature archetype options for Pathfinders. I suppose it's pretty timely with the Absalom-centric AP going at the same time!
I know there has been a significant abundance of Mwangi material compared to a lot of regions in the setting, but I'm still crossing fingers for a Magaambyan University book some time.
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Artwork is not usually a big deal for me, and I have no idea who Koriah is. But, wow! That is an amazing cover!
Koriah Azmeren, one of the most famous contemporary field agents in the Pathfinder Society. Her deeds are chronicled in a recent volume of the (in-game) Pathfinder Chronicles. She was also involved in two adventure paths, namely first in Shattered Star and later in Return of the Runelords, where she is a member of Magnimar's Sihedron Council.
I like that in this picture she actually looks like a real person and much less cartoony than in previous artwork.
Very excited for more Pathfinder Society lore and options for characters who are members of/adjacent to the society. NOT excited about the inevitable Society play pitch, and potential Society play exclusive content.
You expect a chunk of this book to be unusable at non-PFS tables? That would be a bit disappointing, I agree.
I think GM1 is saying they expect a chunk of the book's play to be usable in Organized Play exclusively, not that there will be content that is excluded from Organized Play.
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I think GM1 is saying they expect a chunk of the book's play to be usable in Organized Play exclusively, not that there will be content that is excluded from Organized Play.
How could that possibly be enforced? What would keep a home game GM from using that content?
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I think GM1 is saying they expect a chunk of the book's play to be usable in Organized Play exclusively, not that there will be content that is excluded from Organized Play.How could that possibly be enforced? What would keep a home game GM from using that content?
As CrystalSeas pointed out, that’s what I’m asking.
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I think GM1 is saying they expect a chunk of the book's play to be usable in Organized Play exclusively, not that there will be content that is excluded from Organized Play.How could that possibly be enforced? What would keep a home game GM from using that content?
We would.
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As of the last time I checked (and Luis and Eleanor are the developers on this, not me, so there could be something I'm not aware of) there's no organized play exclusive materials in here, other than like a sidebar for how to join organized play.
There are, however, quite a few mechanics that members of the in-world Pathfinder Society will get instant access to (which is automatically inclusive of all organized play characters since they're automatically part of the Pathfinder Society), and other mechanics we'll have already set access conditions for that characters who've been playing in org play have already met (such as meeting or training with a particular NPC associated with the Society). The book is very rich in both lore and mechanics, and it's focused on the in-world Pathfinder Society. For organized play participants that means lots of background on what your character likely went through to become a Pathfinder and cool insights into a bunch of Golarion's Pathfinders (many of whom they'll recognize from the adventures they've played in), and for those who don't participate in org play it's a trove of locations, NPCs, magic items, feats, plot hooks, etc. to flesh out their game world.
I'm also not entirely sure there is such a thing as organized play exclusive content :P
I was grabbing scenarios and giving out boons to my players before I actually started participating in organized play, just because the 4-hour adventure design matched my group's playstyle and the boons were cool little reminders of what they did last week. In the new season we've even brought in new monsters and feats on Chronicle sheets, and most of those are currently available to all GMs and players on Archives of Nethys.
maybe there will be a lorewarden type option.
I'm a bit more excited about this book after PaizoCon Online. It's needless to say that the Society is the main organization of the setting, so it'll be cool to know more about it and how it's tied to the Inner Sea many figures and organizations.
Speaking of organizations, and although the book following this one has already been announced and is covering ancestries, I hope for a book covering the main organizations of the setting next year. Many of them were introduced in the CRB and mentioned in the World Guide, but I'm eager to see a book like Adventurer's Guide in Second Edition.
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We would.I think GM1 is saying they expect a chunk of the book's play to be usable in Organized Play exclusively, not that there will be content that is excluded from Organized Play.How could that possibly be enforced? What would keep a home game GM from using that content?
As my gaming group always says, "If you see the Gaming Police, run the other way! They are no smurfing fun!"
Had to miss the panel on this today. Anyone get some good teasers or tidbits about it?
Koriah would appear to be left-handed.
Will there be anything in this book usable by characters who aren't at all a part of the pathfinder society?
Yes. But I cannot find the GenCon panel where Luis discussed it. :)
Will there be anything in this book usable by characters who aren't at all a part of the pathfinder society?
I imagine if your character isn't connected in any way in game to the Pathfinder Society, this will be of not incredible tons of use. Maybe some items or something that can come available to general characters, dunno?
If you're asking about whether or not this book will have value to players who don't participate in Society play, then yes. Luis Loza answered pretty affirmatively in this regard earlier in this discussion. :)