CorvusMask |
I wonder if I forgot one example of "Aww man I'm sad this thing wasn't mentioned" from my review xP But yeah, I sure had lot of those, I blame me for being lore nerd :p
But yeah, it is really neat book, not as hype as lost omen legends is, but Lodge and Faction articles are really nice. It is kinda weird though how sometimes book really tries to avoid spoiling scenarios it is referring to despite at other times straight up spelling out what happened in them. Also it does completely ignore all APs with heavy pathfinder presence. Would have been kind cool to get expansion on some pathfinder society lore that is currently specific to aps... Like that one guy referred to in letter in RotR, that would have been nice call back xD
Xethik |
The Stiletto Pen does not mention a proficiency type. I'm guessing simple, as it is a dagger replacement, trading versatile for concealable and an increased price.
Other thoughts?
EDIT: Looks like the boarding weaponry are explicitly martial melee weapons.
Tonya Woldridge Organized Play Manager |
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I wonder if I forgot one example of "Aww man I'm sad this thing wasn't mentioned" from my review xP But yeah, I sure had lot of those, I blame me for being lore nerd :p
But yeah, it is really neat book, not as hype as lost omen legends is, but Lodge and Faction articles are really nice. It is kinda weird though how sometimes book really tries to avoid spoiling scenarios it is referring to despite at other times straight up spelling out what happened in them. Also it does completely ignore all APs with heavy pathfinder presence. Would have been kind cool to get expansion on some pathfinder society lore that is currently specific to aps... Like that one guy referred to in letter in RotR, that would have been nice call back xD
I wrote the Heidmarch Manor Lodge. From an author's perspective, ten years of lore is daunting when you are trying to pare it down to 3500 words, especially in such an active area of the world. So for me, I focused on points where the Heidmarches participation changed the Society, and left other pieces fuzzier. It doesn't mean Xin didn't happen or that it wasn't huge, but just more off-camera than on. But hey, this means there is more lore for another book in the future :)
CorvusMask |
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I just received this book today, and read in 3 hours!
I love it! 4.75/5 stars. The art for the frostfur goblin could have been better, but g!* d@$n Bjersig you magnificent bastard are looking good. So happy you included the Iceferry Lodge. The Saga Lands are the best Lands and needs more love.
Remember to review the book if you love the book!
Michael Sayre Designer |
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I just received this book today, and read in 3 hours!
I love it! 4.75/5 stars. The art for the frostfur goblin could have been better, but g$~ d++n Bjersig you magnificent bastard are looking good. So happy you included the Iceferry Lodge. The Saga Lands are the best Lands and needs more love.
The odds of Bjersig not making it into this book were incredibly slim! And agreed, our boy is looking clean, mean, and ready to lead in that new art (and Mahki's not too shabby either).
Ed Reppert |
A question or two: a prerequisite for the Pathfinder archetypes, in particular Pathfinder Agent, is membership in the Pathfinder Society. How does one become a member? This book talks about "initiates" being sent to Absalom for three years of training. I suppose an initiate is a member. But how does this work for beginning PCs? What's the rationale for "my just created PC is a member of the Pathfinder Society"? Will he have had the three years of training? What does that training give to the PC?
Michael Sayre Designer |
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A question or two: a prerequisite for the Pathfinder archetypes, in particular Pathfinder Agent, is membership in the Pathfinder Society. How does one become a member? This book talks about "initiates" being sent to Absalom for three years of training. I suppose an initiate is a member. But how does this work for beginning PCs? What's the rationale for "my just created PC is a member of the Pathfinder Society"? Will he have had the three years of training? What does that training give to the PC?
If you're playing in organized play, your character is automatically a member of the Pathfinder Society in-world and has either already graduated from a School or was field commissioned and skipped that step.
If you want to use them in a home game on a brand new PC, then it's perfectly reasonable for your character to have graduated from one of the Schools. That gives them access to anything that requires them to have been trained at one of the Schools and becomes the explanation for where the character learned their adventuring skills. Doing it this way essentially makes it the step between Background: Pathfinder Hopeful (or whatever) and Class: Wizard, that is otherwise filled by whatever explanation the player feels like giving. A wizard had to study somewhere to be a wizard; attending the Society's schools is a potential answer to where.
You might also earn a field commission to the Society by helping one of their members in the field or travel to Absalom to try and obtain membership, either by attending the Schools and graduating or proving yourself to the organization through some significant archaeological achievement. Or you could even join the Society as an established adventurer and play out your three years of training as part of your story progression.
Much of this is covered on page 14 under Joining the Society.
David knott 242 |
A question or two: a prerequisite for the Pathfinder archetypes, in particular Pathfinder Agent, is membership in the Pathfinder Society. How does one become a member? This book talks about "initiates" being sent to Absalom for three years of training. I suppose an initiate is a member. But how does this work for beginning PCs? What's the rationale for "my just created PC is a member of the Pathfinder Society"? Will he have had the three years of training? What does that training give to the PC?
In addition to what others have said, the entry for Pathfinder Agent in the Lost Omens World Guide has a line reading "Access: You are from Absalom." As I recall, that line is supposed to let any character from that region handwave the Uncommon tag and non-mechanical prerequisites such as being a member of the Pathfinder Society (as it is assumed that being so near their main headquarters eliminates the need to roleplay you joining the Pathfinder Society in game).
Ed Reppert |
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I would think that being from Absalom giving "access" to that Dedication just means that since the Society's HQ is right there, you can certainly knock on the door and ask to join, but not that you will necessarily be accepted — particularly given the hoops one would normally have to go through to get to that point. IOW it is not (or IMO should not be) simply a matter of "I live in (or near) Absalom, and I'm leveling up to level 2, so I can take Pathfinder Agent".
David knott 242 |
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I thought I recalled some discussion suggesting exactly that back when the Lost Omens World Guide came out. At the very least, the work needed to join the Society could be reasonably worked into the character's backstory.
Liam |
I would think that being from Absalom giving "access" to that Dedication just means that since the Society's HQ is right there, you can certainly knock on the door and ask to join, but not that you will necessarily be accepted — particularly given the hoops one would normally have to go through to get to that point. IOW it is not (or IMO should not be) simply a matter of "I live in (or near) Absalom, and I'm leveling up to level 2, so I can take Pathfinder Agent".
These are the kind of progression things that the player and GM have
to work out together. It's not something that I would slam a door onif something can be worked into the story.
Trystwch |
Pre question Background...I don't use Absalom as a world setting for my players - we have a home brew world based on English folk tales so all the creatures are more Scandinavian fey based than classical creatures. Part of the Laws of the island they are on is that all magical study takes place outside of the capital. This has lead to the establishment of several universities and museums in the outlying towns and cities. Being a Mythos fan, my players home base is in a town loosely based on Arkham where they work for the curator of the local museum (think if Indiana Jones worked for Miskatonic University) investigating cryptozoological sightings and folk tales. My question is are the society details and artefacts easily transferable to other world settings so they can be incorporated snuggly into a homebrew world?
Alex Speidel Organized Play Associate |
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Definitely! The rules elements (viewable here) are setting-neutral and can easily be transplanted. While the Lodges and NPCs are tied to locations in Golarion, there's no reason that Iceferry Lodge couldn't exist in your world's frozen north, for example.
jakjr15 |
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So am I the only one that got the Lost Omens subscription and is still waiting on this book to even ship? I've contacted customer service twice now (once in November and once in December) and still haven't received a reply. I hate putting stuff like this here but I want to know if it is just me or if there is a supply issue with this product.
CrystalSeas |
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I've contacted customer service twice now (once in November and once in December) and still haven't received a reply.
Customer Service staff are far behind in their email responses. As of this afternoon they have dealt with emails dated Sept 4 and earlier. There are 2819 backlogged emails.
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Wait patiently. They've recently hired new staff, and things are speeding up, but it still isn't as fast as they'd like.
Andrew Johns 25 |
This is a great book. Enjoy the lore and all the new items. The only thing I think that needs to be errata to do things are watch and learn & remember your training. These two feats in each of their ways let you add your level to skills you are untrained in, but it really does not do anything due to the fact you are already getting this from the dedication feat that is a pre-req for it(Pathfinder Agent Dedication Feat).
Elfteiroh |
This is a great book. Enjoy the lore and all the new items. The only thing I think that needs to be errata to do things are watch and learn & remember your training. These two feats in each of their ways let you add your level to skills you are untrained in, but it really does not do anything due to the fact you are already getting this from the dedication feat that is a pre-req for it(Pathfinder Agent Dedication Feat).
Take a look in the thread, and if it's not already posted there, you can post it!
Official Lost Omens clarification, errata, and FAQ thread
[EDIT] Someone posted it already it seems! Now we just have to wait and see.
Andrew Johns 25 |
Andrew Johns 25 wrote:This is a great book. Enjoy the lore and all the new items. The only thing I think that needs to be errata to do things are watch and learn & remember your training. These two feats in each of their ways let you add your level to skills you are untrained in, but it really does not do anything due to the fact you are already getting this from the dedication feat that is a pre-req for it(Pathfinder Agent Dedication Feat).Take a look in the thread, and if it's not already posted there, you can post it!
Official Lost Omens clarification, errata, and FAQ thread[EDIT] Someone posted it already it seems! Now we just have to wait and see.
Thank you