Will there be anything in this book usable by characters who aren't at all a part of the pathfinder society?Yes. But I cannot find the GenCon panel where Luis discussed it. :)
This panel ought to cover it, but I haven't gotten around to listening to it yet.
My order for this submitted, I'm very excited! I have a soft spot for adventuring guilds.
That's the street date, yeah.
Can’t wait for the shipping to start and someone to get their copy.
I’m very curious what will be in this. Most of the previous products I could at least guess how it would be laid out, but Legends and this seem a bit different than what I am used to (I don’t recall much about the 1st edition version of this).
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Shipping seems to have begun, I have my PDF. Might want to start madly refreshing.
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I'm liking what I see so far.
I really like the new scrollmaster stuff, especially the recall knowledge feats! Lots of interesting player options here and some really neat items.
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Finally, all masks have art! In fact, we have a LOT of art for people now!
I really like the new Bjersig Torrsen piece and the Meleeka Sanvara piece. My favorite is probably the headshot of Wulessa Yuul that sits right above the entry for the diviner's nose chain, though.
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Overall there are several fun Pathfinder Agent feats in the new batch, but two of them (Remember Your Training, Watch and Learn) significantly overlap with the basic Pathfinder Agent Dedication. The latter, in fact, appears completely purposeless. Can I request an errata or the like?
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Overall there are several fun Pathfinder Agent feats in the new batch, but two of them (Remember Your Training, Watch and Learn) significantly overlap with the basic Pathfinder Agent Dedication. The latter, in fact, appears completely purposeless. Can I request an errata or the like?
I've pinged the appropriate parties so they can look into it.
I really like the artwork in this book! And, as someone who's only now moving from homebrew settings into Golarion and delving deeper into the lore, the insight into the Pathfinder Society (from what I've managed to read so far) is really great.
There's one thing that's caught my attention, though: isn't the Calligraphy Wyrm meant to be a dragon, rather than a beast? The text seems to imply the former, but it has the trait for the latter.
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It does look like the most prominently mentioned one went through some changes in art design. The more recently mentioned ones such as the stag-antlered and tangled briar masks match pretty well with the established descriptions. (Keeping things oblique for spoiler reasons.)
The waterfall mask is lovely.
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Not my favorite book we've gotten but its interesting to read about the society, I was especially happy to see Meleeka Sanvara come back as I was wondering about her canon fate after unforgiving fire. I also really enjoyed some of the new familiars (as a librarian, calligraphy dragon is my new favorite) and magic items, and it should make for some fun reading as I dig into the lore entries.
That being said, I expect if I pushed myself to actually play some more society, I'll probably value it more highly as a guide to the characters and factions I'd be interacting with. I'm hoping to do that at some point, so its still kinda neat.
I only wish it had included some guidelines for including and creating adventuring guilds for other campaigns, but its got a clear vision as a golarion lore book, so it makes sense it doesn't have that.
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... Weaponized Gambling Rogue/Swashbuckler feats were really fun...
You have my attention... might this be a Gambit-style combat feat? Throwing cards as weapons? Dice as caltrops?
Weaponized Gambling Rogue/Swashbuckler feats were really fun, as was the Phoenix Style monk feats
Say what now?!
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In another blog post the pfs leadership stated the expected sanctioning date is the day after release. That's the goal at least.
And given the subject of this book, I would be very surprised if the PFS folks are not extra generous with what folks have access to from this book.
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Got my (digital) copy last Friday. :D
Just finished reading it through. Some good, good stuff in there.
I mostly play the regular Paizo APs in Golarion and very rarely some PFS here and there. I noticed the Society is basically a non-factor outside of PFS modules, which makes it really difficult to incorporate them into other Adventures in Golarion.
As it is, it's very difficult to have an AP player character belong to the society, as it'd just overcomplicate party dynamics. This means the PFS have to be used as NPCs, possibly antagonists. Maybe that's something we'll see in the future? Gotta think of some ideas where any of this lore and options would be relevant to players outside of Organized Play.
I mostly play the regular Paizo APs in Golarion and very rarely some PFS here and there. I noticed the Society is basically a non-factor outside of PFS modules, which makes it really difficult to incorporate them into other Adventures in Golarion.
As it is, it's very difficult to have an AP player character belong to the society, as it'd just overcomplicate party dynamics. This means the PFS have to be used as NPCs, possibly antagonists. Maybe that's something we'll see in the future? Gotta think of some ideas where any of this lore and options would be relevant to players outside of Organized Play.
You could also work with the GM some and readily find a reason to incorporate a Society member into an AP. Hell's Rebels, for example, could have you on a long-term mission to investigate Thrune, or help ferment unrest for some operation, etc. There are reasons a society Agent might be in or caught up in an AP, and depending on how the party is set up and how readily you can make the mission goals align with party/AP goals then it shouldn't complicate party dynamics too much.
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I mostly play the regular Paizo APs in Golarion and very rarely some PFS here and there. I noticed the Society is basically a non-factor outside of PFS modules, which makes it really difficult to incorporate them into other Adventures in Golarion.
As it is, it's very difficult to have an AP player character belong to the society, as it'd just overcomplicate party dynamics. This means the PFS have to be used as NPCs, possibly antagonists. Maybe that's something we'll see in the future? Gotta think of some ideas where any of this lore and options would be relevant to players outside of Organized Play.
Really? I've been playing a Pathfinder Agent for years in four different campaigns, and it's never been any more difficult to fit in than any other PC's organizational alliances. In fact, some were even more difficult to fit in! A red mantis assassin, or a Hellknight have much more rigid guidelines than a Pathfinder. Ultimately, for me, it ends up being a source for the GM to give us quests and info, some supplies, and for me to occasionally have characterful role-plays with. Feel free to DM me if you want to talk more about this.
Anywho, as I said, I've been playing a Pathfinder Agent in a home game for years and years, so I'm bursting with excitement for this book! The changes over the years have been a little hard for me to follow since I don't play PFS, so I'm excited to have it all in one place. I also reference Seekers of Secrets basically monthly, so I'm sure this will have plenty more for me to gawk at.
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I see no issue with having one PC be a Pathfinder agent. They can literally be on long term leave or field work. It works better for venture captains like Varian Jeggare, but nothing says a lower level agent might be working alone with a group of non-affiliated associates.
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Little disappointed that book doesn't mention Shattered Star... I'd kinda have thought Xin appearing near Magnimar would be big enough event for local opinions on Pathfinder to go one way, but I guess we won't hear about that unless we have another campaign setting book focusing on Magnimar or Varisia? :'D Still Sheila Heidmarch was just big part of that AP that I thought for sure it woudld be mentioned in the book...