Pathfinder Lost Omens: Pathfinder Society Guide

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The Pathfinder Society is a globe-trotting organization of adventurers, scholars, and warriors all dedicated to exploration, collecting lost knowledge and treasure, and sharing it with the world. Lost Omens: Pathfinder Society Guide details everything players and GMs need to know about the Pathfinder Society, from the basics of membership, to the Society's various factions, to the various lodges littered throughout the Inner Sea region. This book is the go-to source for the history and lore of the Pathfinder Society and features new rules content including new equipment, wayfinders, and support for Pathfinder-related archetypes! A useful book in its own right, this helpful volume is a must-have for participants in Paizo's massive Pathfinder Society worldwide organized play campaign, and a great way to get involved in the international campaign!

Written by: Kate Baker, James Case, John Compton, Vanessa Hoskins, Mike Kimmel, Ron Lundeen, Dennis Muldoon, k. tessa newton, Michael Sayre, Clark Valentine, Tonya Woldridge, and Linda Zayas-Palmer

ISBN-13: 978-1-64078-278-5

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I like the book, but I have nitpicks

4/5

So oki, this is both wonderful book for detailing lot of before undetailed venture captain and lodges while also working as recap book for events of 10 years of 1e society as well. It introduces new plot hooks we might see featured in 2e scenarios and we learn canonical outcome of some scenarios that haven't gotten sequels yet.

My main nitpick here is big omissions(such as Shattered Star being completely ignored despite you playing as pathfinders in that ap with Sheila Heidmarch being your quest giver, sooo you'd think Heidmarch's lodge's article would mention it due to what happens in Magnimar in that AP as result of Pathfinder actions.*), we still not learning fate of some Pathfinders(did Ospray ever got rescued from moon), some forgotten details are still forgotten (decemvirate member with "eyeless, red leather mask" appears to be forgotten as none of masks pictured have their design), some info appears to be error(text seems to confuse Conference Z secret think thank with Korholm Agenda secret conspiracy) and some feats being bit unclear or needing rework.**

*(Would have been cool opportunity to learn how pathfinder operation in ruins of azlant is going or have cameo/reference to abandoned lodge from council of thieves or learn how society's involvement in serpent's skull with eando kline being rescued. I can understand not all aps with some pathfinder involvement being referred to, but I'm kinda sad that aps with major pathfinder presence didn't get expanded upon either..)

**Watch and Learn feat has that its' prequisite giving you better version of its effect(since pathfinder agent dedication allows you to add your level to untrained skills)

But yeah, Lodge articles are wonderful and so is getting updates on lot of old faces :) It is worth getting for expansion on schools, lodges and new factions if you are interested in Pathfinder Society stuff


Another excellent addition to the Lost Omens line!

5/5

Got my digital copy of Lost Omens: Pathfinder Society Guide today and did my first pass. Verdict? I *love it*.

The stories, background, and lore bits are wonderful and full of flavor and the mechanical options are varied and exciting. I put this down with ten times as many character ideas in my head, thanks Paizo!

However, I am sad to report that while there is artwork of a pistol, there is no pew pew item available, and I believe every PFS Rogue is gonna have a deck of cards moving forward!


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Elorebaen wrote:
KaiBlob1 wrote:
Will there be anything in this book usable by characters who aren't at all a part of the pathfinder society?
Yes. But I cannot find the GenCon panel where Luis discussed it. :)

This panel ought to cover it, but I haven't gotten around to listening to it yet.

Sovereign Court

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Right now this is looking like one to briefly cancel my subscription for, unless they release more product information that makes this book sound useful for non -society.

Dark Archive

Ageron wrote:
Right now this is looking like one to briefly cancel my subscription for, unless they release more product information that makes this book sound useful for non -society.

I mean, it is Lost Omen book, its going to have lot of flavor and lore and its not like its scenario play exclusive anyway

Sovereign Court

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CorvusMask wrote:
I mean, it is Lost Omen book, its going to have lot of flavor and lore and its not like its scenario play exclusive anyway

Flavor and lore are great when it's something I'm interested in. Perhaps previews will change my mind, if they do any.

Grand Lodge

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Can't wait for everyone to see this!


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

For those looking for more info, here is the video version of the podcast linked above.


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Pathfinder Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

I'm excited for this one. Also looking forward to starting my subscription to the Lost Omens line once the option to start with this product is available. I already own all the previous books.

Liberty's Edge

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Gorbacz wrote:
*readies action to burst through the door and force people to not use PFS options in a non-PFS game*

Sorry, toothbag, readied actions don't allow multiple actions/activities like this (in 2e).

:P


Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

My order for this submitted, I'm very excited! I have a soft spot for adventuring guilds.

The Exchange

Is it really supposed to come out on October 14th?


Paizo Superscriber; Pathfinder Companion, Pathfinder Accessories, PF Special Edition Subscriber; Starfinder Superscriber

That's the street date, yeah.


Pathfinder Adventure, Adventure Path Subscriber

Can’t wait for the shipping to start and someone to get their copy.

I’m very curious what will be in this. Most of the previous products I could at least guess how it would be laid out, but Legends and this seem a bit different than what I am used to (I don’t recall much about the 1st edition version of this).

Horizon Hunters

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Sporkedup wrote:
KaiBlob1 wrote:
Will there be anything in this book usable by characters who aren't at all a part of the pathfinder society?

I imagine if your character isn't connected in any way in game to the Pathfinder Society, this will be of not incredible tons of use. Maybe some items or something that can come available to general characters, dunno?

If you're asking about whether or not this book will have value to players who don't participate in Society play, then yes. Luis Loza answered pretty affirmatively in this regard earlier in this discussion. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYhQaAj9Txg


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Shipping seems to have begun, I have my PDF. Might want to start madly refreshing.

Liberty's Edge

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Okay, "Pathfinder Slang" might be the best thing ever. I love it.

Liberty's Edge

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Update: 2E Pistol art ahhhh, I have an afraid :P


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I'm liking what I see so far.

I really like the new scrollmaster stuff, especially the recall knowledge feats! Lots of interesting player options here and some really neat items.

Silver Crusade

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The art is gorgeous, especially of all the Lodges.

And Calligraphy Wyrms and Poppets are back!!!!

Grand Lodge

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Finally, all masks have art! In fact, we have a LOT of art for people now!

Paizo Employee Designer

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TriOmegaZero wrote:
Finally, all masks have art! In fact, we have a LOT of art for people now!

I really like the new Bjersig Torrsen piece and the Meleeka Sanvara piece. My favorite is probably the headshot of Wulessa Yuul that sits right above the entry for the diviner's nose chain, though.

Liberty's Edge

EDIT: The original post was antagonistic and not particularly helpful.

Overall there are several fun Pathfinder Agent feats in the new batch, but two of them (Remember Your Training, Watch and Learn) significantly overlap with the basic Pathfinder Agent Dedication. The latter, in fact, appears completely purposeless. Can I request an errata or the like?

Paizo Employee Designer

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Shisumo wrote:


Overall there are several fun Pathfinder Agent feats in the new batch, but two of them (Remember Your Training, Watch and Learn) significantly overlap with the basic Pathfinder Agent Dedication. The latter, in fact, appears completely purposeless. Can I request an errata or the like?

I've pinged the appropriate parties so they can look into it.


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I really like the artwork in this book! And, as someone who's only now moving from homebrew settings into Golarion and delving deeper into the lore, the insight into the Pathfinder Society (from what I've managed to read so far) is really great.

There's one thing that's caught my attention, though: isn't the Calligraphy Wyrm meant to be a dragon, rather than a beast? The text seems to imply the former, but it has the trait for the latter.


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Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

The art in this is definitely gorgeous, almost cried out a little at how cute the dweomercat cub was and it's awesome to see some disabled character art!

The book sadly has done little to make me more interested in the actual society, albeit it was already one of my least favourite parts of a mostly fantastic setting, but some of the new options are great, I'm so happy to finally have a translator background and the new familiars were an unexpected delight!

A lot of the book really feels like it's desperately trying to portray a very unheroic group as heroes and ends up coming off disingenuous and awkward, quietly acknowledging the use of indentured labour before very rapidly moving on was particularly jarring.

A couple of characters covered were very compelling though, I feel like I could really imagine how the students would all love to crowd around Marcos and ask him for stories.

Wayfinders Contributor

Ooh, Dweomer cats cubs? Translator backgrounds? I can't wait to see this book.

Dark Archive

Can someone describe the masks and if they are recognizable from their old appearances?

Is there also new lore reveals or pfs choice results?(besides Meleeka, like is leshy alliance canon? :3)

Grand Lodge

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It does look like the most prominently mentioned one went through some changes in art design. The more recently mentioned ones such as the stag-antlered and tangled briar masks match pretty well with the established descriptions. (Keeping things oblique for spoiler reasons.)

The waterfall mask is lovely.

Dark Archive

What about masks from moonscar? :3 Those were really fancy ones

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure, Lost Omens, Pawns, Rulebook Subscriber

Oooh, they show up in there? Haven't had a chance to play it yet.

Dark Archive

Yeah they are the quest givers :D

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure, Lost Omens, Pawns, Rulebook Subscriber

Doesn't appear to be related.


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Not my favorite book we've gotten but its interesting to read about the society, I was especially happy to see Meleeka Sanvara come back as I was wondering about her canon fate after unforgiving fire. I also really enjoyed some of the new familiars (as a librarian, calligraphy dragon is my new favorite) and magic items, and it should make for some fun reading as I dig into the lore entries.

That being said, I expect if I pushed myself to actually play some more society, I'll probably value it more highly as a guide to the characters and factions I'd be interacting with. I'm hoping to do that at some point, so its still kinda neat.

I only wish it had included some guidelines for including and creating adventuring guilds for other campaigns, but its got a clear vision as a golarion lore book, so it makes sense it doesn't have that.


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Honestly, I've never liked the Pathfinder Society. I've used them in my games, my Hell's Rebels campaign even ended with its very own Venture Captain San Diego taking up shop in Kintargo. That said...

Not being a PFS player, I skimmed a lot of the book but I did enjoy the discussion on the politics of the Shady leaders of the Society and fall out from that. I also kind of liked the 'We used to be into adventure archeology, but that's kind of in poor taste now...so we're trying not to be Harpers, but...' thing that the Society is dealing with. An organization under change. The lodges were all interesting. I enjoyed the Razmir lodge write up and the political situation of the Mendev Lodge I found strongly compelling.

The artwork is great.

The Pathfinder dedication feats were okay. I like the expansion of the archetype feats as a concept. More feats in the archetype than you could actually pick up in play give players lots of options.

It is a Pathfinder book about Pathfinders and their society, so I have to have expected this, but Weaponized Gambling Rogue/Swashbuckler feats were really fun, as was the Phoenix Style monk feats, but gated behind specific members of the society make it difficult to acquire in general practice. (Which is what rarity is supposed to do, I know). Not well pleased with that, but alas.

Nice book. I'm sure I'll get use out of it.


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Kasoh wrote:
... Weaponized Gambling Rogue/Swashbuckler feats were really fun...

You have my attention... might this be a Gambit-style combat feat? Throwing cards as weapons? Dice as caltrops?


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Hikuen wrote:
Kasoh wrote:
... Weaponized Gambling Rogue/Swashbuckler feats were really fun...
You have my attention... might this be a Gambit-style combat feat? Throwing cards as weapons? Dice as caltrops?

A stance that lets you use playing cards as daggers or darts, yes.


Kasoh wrote:
Weaponized Gambling Rogue/Swashbuckler feats were really fun, as was the Phoenix Style monk feats

Say what now?!

Grand Lodge

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Will this be sanctioned for PfS from the start?


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In another blog post the pfs leadership stated the expected sanctioning date is the day after release. That's the goal at least.


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I'm a bit disappointed that I am not able to get this as the start to the Lost Omens subscription. Is there a reason why you haven't updated the subscription to start with this product. I already own the two products that the subscription says I have to start with and I don't want to buy them twice.

Paizo Employee Organized Play Developer

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Sedoriku wrote:
In another blog post the pfs leadership stated the expected sanctioning date is the day after release. That's the goal at least.

Sanctioning is in process and should be live the week of the release date (Oct 14)!

Grand Lodge

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Huzzah!


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And given the subject of this book, I would be very surprised if the PFS folks are not extra generous with what folks have access to from this book.


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Got my (digital) copy last Friday. :D

Just finished reading it through. Some good, good stuff in there.


I mostly play the regular Paizo APs in Golarion and very rarely some PFS here and there. I noticed the Society is basically a non-factor outside of PFS modules, which makes it really difficult to incorporate them into other Adventures in Golarion.

As it is, it's very difficult to have an AP player character belong to the society, as it'd just overcomplicate party dynamics. This means the PFS have to be used as NPCs, possibly antagonists. Maybe that's something we'll see in the future? Gotta think of some ideas where any of this lore and options would be relevant to players outside of Organized Play.

Dark Archive

I mean, Society has presence in Serpent's Skull and Shattered Star and Ruins of Azlant <_<


ChibiNyan wrote:

I mostly play the regular Paizo APs in Golarion and very rarely some PFS here and there. I noticed the Society is basically a non-factor outside of PFS modules, which makes it really difficult to incorporate them into other Adventures in Golarion.

As it is, it's very difficult to have an AP player character belong to the society, as it'd just overcomplicate party dynamics. This means the PFS have to be used as NPCs, possibly antagonists. Maybe that's something we'll see in the future? Gotta think of some ideas where any of this lore and options would be relevant to players outside of Organized Play.

You could also work with the GM some and readily find a reason to incorporate a Society member into an AP. Hell's Rebels, for example, could have you on a long-term mission to investigate Thrune, or help ferment unrest for some operation, etc. There are reasons a society Agent might be in or caught up in an AP, and depending on how the party is set up and how readily you can make the mission goals align with party/AP goals then it shouldn't complicate party dynamics too much.

Grand Lodge

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ChibiNyan wrote:

I mostly play the regular Paizo APs in Golarion and very rarely some PFS here and there. I noticed the Society is basically a non-factor outside of PFS modules, which makes it really difficult to incorporate them into other Adventures in Golarion.

As it is, it's very difficult to have an AP player character belong to the society, as it'd just overcomplicate party dynamics. This means the PFS have to be used as NPCs, possibly antagonists. Maybe that's something we'll see in the future? Gotta think of some ideas where any of this lore and options would be relevant to players outside of Organized Play.

Really? I've been playing a Pathfinder Agent for years in four different campaigns, and it's never been any more difficult to fit in than any other PC's organizational alliances. In fact, some were even more difficult to fit in! A red mantis assassin, or a Hellknight have much more rigid guidelines than a Pathfinder. Ultimately, for me, it ends up being a source for the GM to give us quests and info, some supplies, and for me to occasionally have characterful role-plays with. Feel free to DM me if you want to talk more about this.

Anywho, as I said, I've been playing a Pathfinder Agent in a home game for years and years, so I'm bursting with excitement for this book! The changes over the years have been a little hard for me to follow since I don't play PFS, so I'm excited to have it all in one place. I also reference Seekers of Secrets basically monthly, so I'm sure this will have plenty more for me to gawk at.

Grand Lodge

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I see no issue with having one PC be a Pathfinder agent. They can literally be on long term leave or field work. It works better for venture captains like Varian Jeggare, but nothing says a lower level agent might be working alone with a group of non-affiliated associates.

Verdant Wheel

CorvusMask wrote:
I mean, Society has presence in Serpent's Skull and Shattered Star and Ruins of Azlant <_<

And cameos in Council of Thieves and War for the Crown (enough to justify player characters)

Dark Archive

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Little disappointed that book doesn't mention Shattered Star... I'd kinda have thought Xin appearing near Magnimar would be big enough event for local opinions on Pathfinder to go one way, but I guess we won't hear about that unless we have another campaign setting book focusing on Magnimar or Varisia? :'D Still Sheila Heidmarch was just big part of that AP that I thought for sure it woudld be mentioned in the book...

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