Starfinder Adventure Path #33: Dominion’s End (Devastation Ark 3 of 3)

Starfinder Adventure Path #33: Dominion’s End (Devastation Ark 3 of 3)

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Upon gaining access to the hostile starship known as Ark Prime, the heroes find themselves immersed in propaganda designed to show the might and superiority of the ancient empire that launched the vessel eons ago. Once they break free of the brainwashing, they can fight past robots, holographic constructs, and alien supersoldiers awoken from stasis to confront Ark Prime's evil AI. In the end, the heroes must decide what to do with hundreds of other sleeping citizens of a formerly dangerous civilization. Their important decision could affect the future of the galaxy!

“Dominion's End” is a Starfinder Roleplaying Game adventure for four 18th-level characters. This adventure concludes The Devastation Ark Adventure Path, a three-part, monthly campaign in which the players stop the threat of an ancient alien civilization in Starfinder's first high-level adventures! This volume also includes a catalog of technomagical relics from the ancient Sivv Dominion as well as a selection of ferocious alien threats.

Each monthly full-color softcover Starfinder Adventure Path volume contains a new installment of a series of interconnected science-fantasy quests that together create a fully developed plot of sweeping scale and epic challenges. Each 64-page volume of the Starfinder Adventure Path also contains in-depth articles that detail and expand the Starfinder campaign setting and provide new rules, a host of exciting new monsters and alien races, a new planet to explore and starship to pilot, and more!

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Announced for October! Product image and description are not final and may be subject to change.


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Wait, what? AI? :D

Oh please oh please oh please have disembodied AI rules that would be so incredible thank you very much.

In all seriousness, this looks incredible. Can’t wait to play it with my group.

Dark Archive

Aww man, its not Aboleths, its Sivv yeah :D Aka those who created Dead Suns' super weapon


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CorvusMask wrote:
Aww man, its not Aboleths, its Sivv yeah :D Aka those who created Dead Suns' super weapon

Or an evil ancient bantrid empire! Roly-poly li’l stormtroopers of spaz-destruction! Also friendly acquaintances of Darth Jar Jar next galaxy over.

Scarab Sages

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Katina Davis wrote:
Announced for October! Product image and description are not final and may be subject to change.

Preorder shows as expected in September, perhaps because Devastation Ark 1 and 2 both show as expected in August.


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Grinds craters together in anticipation.

Paizo Employee Developer

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Hooray! I get to write the highest-level Starfinder adventure EVER!


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WAIT?!

WAS I RIGHT ABOUT IT BEING THE SIVV?!


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Ron Lundeen wrote:
Hooray! I get to write the highest-level Starfinder adventure EVER!

Congratulations!

I hope, though, that many more of them will follow, written by you or others at Paizo. That's how Starfinder will keep me as a customer. :)

Dark Archive

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Yeah, i said that i wouldn't buy Starfinder adventure paths anymore if high level content wouldn't come out.

I will be buying issues 31 through 33 for sure!


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Putting a marker down on "Bantrids *are* the Sivv" now.

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John Mangrum wrote:
Putting a marker down on "Bantrids *are* the Sivv" now.

Interesting theory!


If it's at all possible for the PCs to take control of the Devastation Ark, then it will be VERY bad news for the Swarm, Corpse Fleet, Cult of the Devourer, and many other of the Pact World's threats.

Dark Archive

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Axial wrote:
If it's at all possible for the PCs to take control of the Devastation Ark, then it will be VERY bad news for the Swarm, Corpse Fleet, Cult of the Devourer, and many other of the Pact World's threats.

Kinda sounds like ye need to in progress cripple the ship really badly though :p

Depends though, is Devastation Arc a Tier 20 ship, Tier "21+" ship(I hope not because I don't think Starship rules make much sense to be able to be higher level than PCs since one level higher is already impossibly hard) or just so super mega powerful ship it doesn't have stats

Dataphiles

Can we get some clarification on it's expected release date? In the details above we have both late September 2020 and 14 October 2020?


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Can we have stats for kishalees (not kish) in this one?

*crosses fingers in all hands*


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I'm not used to there still being a placeholder cover this close to release. I guess it will be a surprise when it actually arrives, oddly fitting for the epic conclusion to the first high-level adventure.

Dataphiles

Why no PDF option for the 3rd book?


You can't preorder the PDF, it'll be available on street date.


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Anyone else not getting a PDF with their subscription shipping like normal?


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Is *that* what a Sivv looks like?

Lord...

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VerBeeker wrote:

Is *that* what a Sivv looks like?

Lord...

I take it ye didn't notice them on the banner image/trailer? :D The shrimp people with guns?(its same as cover of this book)

Though I do like concept art shown in one of con streams little bit better, probably because perspective of directly in front of face makes face look bit too flat


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It reminds me a little bit of Neogi...

...

I don't hate it!

:D


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It's kind of....sexy....in a horrifying way.

Dark Archive

So this adventure probably doesn't contain sivv racial stats? ;D But yeah, what are the options presented for the dilemma as written? Genocide, let them go, keep them in stasis, wipe out their memory just as what happened with bantrids?


The Dilemma:
Sadly the memory wipe isn’t given as a solution.


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Also I LOLed (in the roll your eyes kinda way) at

Spoiler:
the book saying you can’t hold bureaucrats responsible for how their civilization was. Who the f@*@ wrote that?

Dark Archive

I mean, CAN you blame officer workers or tax office workers for government decisions? :p

I don't exactly have context for what you say


I guess it depends on what all Sivv Bureaucrats did/didn’t do and how it separated them from other Sivv in power, if that.

Bureaucrats was probably not the best word choice to use in the book.

Dark Archive

It's really ambiguous word at least as it just means they are part of bureaucracy, so term itself is extremely general if they don't give details of what they do.

Like counter to common belief, bureaucrats don't just do "bureaucracy things", they do actually have a job besides stamping papers :p So not sure what writer means with it


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It's pretty obvious to me that the authorial intent is simply that...

Spoiler:
...most of the sivvs in stasis are civilians, as opposed to a rampaging army (and obvious threat) waiting to be unleashed. The moral dilemma is deliberately ambiguous overall.


Except in the "If the Players Fail" section

Spoiler:
Rampaging army that conquers all is pretty much what happens.

Dark Archive

I mean it IS massive colony ship. So presumably it still has minority of super soldiers even if the ship being able to create army of drones isn't enough xD


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Rysky the Dark Solarion wrote:
Except in the "If the Players Fail" section ** spoiler omitted **

None of the endings suggest that the surviving sivv are actually a bunch of nice, misunderstood fellas. But the difference between "If the Players Fail" and the post-campaign options are...

Spoiler:
...rather dependent on whether the sivv wake up in a Pact Worlds that's already lost the Starstone and had its military shredded vs. a Pact Worlds that's prepared and setting the schedule.


Are they given playable stats?


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No. (They're fairly powerful on an individual level.)


So whats the justification given for that

Spoiler:

a single ship can apparently somehow withstand the entire pact fleet military, including several Tier 18 dreadnoughts and then has enough manpower to actually conquer anything instead of being swarmed by a million soldiers as soon it touches down on a major pact planet?


It's a really cool ship.

Dark Archive

Tier 20 or higher ship with its own drone fleet and its military is composed solely of super high level creatures?

That is my guess at least :p

(also "being swarmed by million soldiers" isn't a thing because of logistics purely. you don't just "throw thousand soldiers" to blindly shoot target RTS style in real life wars as far as I understand)


CorvusMask wrote:

Tier 20 or higher ship with its own drone fleet and its military is composed solely of super high level creatures?

That is my guess at least :p

(also "being swarmed by million soldiers" isn't a thing because of logistics purely. you don't just "throw thousand soldiers" to blindly shoot target RTS style in real life wars as far as I understand)

No, but you still have the occupants of a single ship fight against the entire army of a planet which also includes high level characters or high level combat droids.

At best the only thing the Ark can hope for is to hold an area. But attrition works against it.
Same in space. How can a single ship which is still vulnerable to PCs, hold out against many tier 18+ ships (maybe even tier 20 in case the driftmaven gets involved because of the starstone) + support fleet.

Imo a realistic "if the PCs fail" probably should be

Spoiler:

The Veskarium conquers the Pact World, swooping in after the Ark and the Pact fleet fight it out, saving the day but never leaving and instead occupying the weakened system.


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If that's what you'd prefer to have at your table, go for it. The SF writers chose differently.


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For a less flippant answer,

Spoiler:
if you really have a problem with the story as presented, approach it from the other side. Right now, you're looking at what they have to work with to see what they can logically do with it. Instead, look at what they are projected to be able to accomplish, and work backwards to figure out what they would need to achieve it.

A single ship was able to meet and answer the entire pact worlds armada. That's canon. Whether or not they were successful is determined in this adventure and the previous. If the attack is successful, they go on to hold off any counter-attack for weeks (including whatever Vesk, who have both a moral and cultural imperative to attack the Ark Prime, sends), destroy Absalom Station, and conquer the pact worlds.

So. What, logically, must that single ship be capable of if all that is true? Is the power it used to shut down the Starstone a critical component? What effect might that have on a planetary surface, especially somewhere like Aktion, Aballon, or the Solar colonies?

But yeah, if all of that is too much to swallow, just change it for your table.

Dark Archive

Yeah, I definitely agree on it being better to trying to figure out "What WOULD single ship need to be able to do this" angle. Like otherwise you simply just don't like entire premise of the ap so you probably wouldn't run it in first place :p


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John Mangrum wrote:
No. (They're fairly powerful on an individual level.)

That's... a massive disappointment. Like, sours my desire to buy this, level disappointment.

I'm still going to because I bought the other two volumes and I can only avoid the sunk cost fallacy in so many aspects of my life, but playable sivv stats was far and away my single most wanted thing from this AP.

Dark Archive

FormerFiend wrote:
John Mangrum wrote:
No. (They're fairly powerful on an individual level.)

That's... a massive disappointment. Like, sours my desire to buy this, level disappointment.

I'm still going to because I bought the other two volumes and I can only avoid the sunk cost fallacy in so many aspects of my life, but playable sivv stats was far and away my single most wanted thing from this AP.

I'm kinda surprised only thing you wanted from ap was playable stats for ancient evil empire? I mean yeah it would have been cool, but umm yeah bit confused why you thought the product featuring them as enemies would have playable stats for them?

(I mean, if they don't have playable stats for Jinsuls by now, I'd be surprised if Sivvs got jump on them)

I'm mostly biased though since my desire to buy this ap was for "I want to see what level 13-20 starfinder looks like in game/in setting/storywise"


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CorvusMask wrote:
FormerFiend wrote:
John Mangrum wrote:
No. (They're fairly powerful on an individual level.)

That's... a massive disappointment. Like, sours my desire to buy this, level disappointment.

I'm still going to because I bought the other two volumes and I can only avoid the sunk cost fallacy in so many aspects of my life, but playable sivv stats was far and away my single most wanted thing from this AP.

I'm kinda surprised only thing you wanted from ap was playable stats for ancient evil empire? I mean yeah it would have been cool, but umm yeah bit confused why you thought the product featuring them as enemies would have playable stats for them?

(I mean, if they don't have playable stats for Jinsuls by now, I'd be surprised if Sivvs got jump on them)

I'm mostly biased though since my desire to buy this ap was for "I want to see what level 13-20 starfinder looks like in game/in setting/storywise"

I have an unhealthy addiction to new playable races in starfinder. Honestly can't even really explain it myself.

Also I'm salty af that jinsul haven't been given playable stats.

The story's all well & good & is mostly why I'm still going to get this book.

But new playable races are the thing I look forward too most in any given SF book.

Dark Archive

FormerFiend wrote:
CorvusMask wrote:
FormerFiend wrote:
John Mangrum wrote:
No. (They're fairly powerful on an individual level.)

That's... a massive disappointment. Like, sours my desire to buy this, level disappointment.

I'm still going to because I bought the other two volumes and I can only avoid the sunk cost fallacy in so many aspects of my life, but playable sivv stats was far and away my single most wanted thing from this AP.

I'm kinda surprised only thing you wanted from ap was playable stats for ancient evil empire? I mean yeah it would have been cool, but umm yeah bit confused why you thought the product featuring them as enemies would have playable stats for them?

(I mean, if they don't have playable stats for Jinsuls by now, I'd be surprised if Sivvs got jump on them)

I'm mostly biased though since my desire to buy this ap was for "I want to see what level 13-20 starfinder looks like in game/in setting/storywise"

I have an unhealthy addiction to new playable races in starfinder. Honestly can't even really explain it myself.

Also I'm salty af that jinsul haven't been given playable stats.

The story's all well & good & is mostly why I'm still going to get this book.

But new playable races are the thing I look forward too most in any given SF book.

Would be really cool to gets stats for Sivv though I kinda worry that wouldn't happen because 1) they are strongly tied to this ap 2) this ap apparently provides option for pcs to be evil upon evil and genocide them :p 3) starfinder isn't old enough for them to have made sequels to another aps, so setting material ignores aps as 1e did.

Like I do understand that its good thing that aps don't force gm to buy them just to stay up with events in setting, but sometimes when really cool stuff happens in them you want to see the aftermath xP


CorvusMask wrote:
FormerFiend wrote:
CorvusMask wrote:
FormerFiend wrote:
John Mangrum wrote:
No. (They're fairly powerful on an individual level.)

That's... a massive disappointment. Like, sours my desire to buy this, level disappointment.

I'm still going to because I bought the other two volumes and I can only avoid the sunk cost fallacy in so many aspects of my life, but playable sivv stats was far and away my single most wanted thing from this AP.

I'm kinda surprised only thing you wanted from ap was playable stats for ancient evil empire? I mean yeah it would have been cool, but umm yeah bit confused why you thought the product featuring them as enemies would have playable stats for them?

(I mean, if they don't have playable stats for Jinsuls by now, I'd be surprised if Sivvs got jump on them)

I'm mostly biased though since my desire to buy this ap was for "I want to see what level 13-20 starfinder looks like in game/in setting/storywise"

I have an unhealthy addiction to new playable races in starfinder. Honestly can't even really explain it myself.

Also I'm salty af that jinsul haven't been given playable stats.

The story's all well & good & is mostly why I'm still going to get this book.

But new playable races are the thing I look forward too most in any given SF book.

Would be really cool to gets stats for Sivv though I kinda worry that wouldn't happen because 1) they are strongly tied to this ap 2) this ap apparently provides option for pcs to be evil upon evil and genocide them :p 3) starfinder isn't old enough for them to have made sequels to another aps, so setting material ignores aps as 1e did.

Like I do understand that its good thing that aps don't force gm to buy them just to stay up with events in setting, but sometimes when really cool stuff happens in them you want to see the aftermath xP

I feel that could be covered with a side bar offering suggestions ranging from only allowing sivv as playable in future games if your players didn't genocide them, or given that the sivv had a vast, interstellar empire - with the first two volumes of the AP at least covering former sivv-controlled planets in their Codex of Worlds - there could be some other small outpost with sivv in stasis that a pc sivv might have emerged from.

But the impression I got from John's (admittedly brief) answer is that sivv being "fairly powerful on an individual level" implies to me that they just have some natural, innate abilities that would put even a sivv civilian above, say, a level one soldier of an existing playable race. If that's the case then I have opinions about it but that's premature without having read their entry yet.


Is there anyone willing to share the new creatures introduced in the Alien Archives?


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If no one else does, I'll type it up once I'm out of work tonight.

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