Pathfinder Lost Omens: Gods & Magic

Pathfinder Lost Omens: Gods & Magic

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No fantasy setting is complete without a pantheon of powerful deities for its characters to worship or fear. Whether you're a sneaky rogue asking the god of thievery for a blessing on your next heist or a valorous crusader calling the might of your patron down upon the forces of evil, faith and the forces behind it are key to every character's identity. Within this volume you'll find details on the gods and non-deific faiths of the Age of Lost Omens from the perspective of their clergy and lay worshipers. You'll also discover new domains, feats, and spells to customize your character, and an exhaustive index of hundreds of deities from the Pathfinder setting you can worship (and the mechanical benefits of doing so).

An indispensable 128-page resource for both players looking to flesh out their characters' motivations and Game Masters aiming to bring the evil cults, zealous evangelists, and holy warriors of their campaigns to life, Pathfinder Lost Omens Gods & Magic is an essential addition to any Pathfinder Second Edition campaign!

Written by: Robert Adducci, Amirali Attar Olyaee, Calder CaDavid, James Case, Adam Daigle, Katina Davis, Leo Glass, Joshua Grinlinton, James Jacobs, Virginia Jordan, Jason Keeley, Jacky Leung, Lyz Liddell, Ron Lundeen, Stephanie Lundeen, Jacob W. Michaels, Matt Morris, Dave Nelson, Samantha Phelan, Jennifer Povey, Jessica Redekop, Nathan Reinecke, Patrick Renie, David N. Ross, Simone D. Sallé, Michael Sayre, David Schwartz, Shahreena Shahrani, Isabelle Thorne, Marc Thuot, Jason Tondro, and Diego Valdez

ISBN: 978-1-64078-202-0

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Syri wrote:

Ooh, new from Klaher! Here's art of Abadar himself . . .

And is this here a worshiper of Casandalee?

I find it strange that both of those god illustrations (Chaldira in the earlier post and "Abadar") have the characters dressed in red and green like it's Christmas. That's not how I imagine Abadar at all. I think of him in gold armor (the 1e illustration).

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Wolf Munroe wrote:
Syri wrote:

Ooh, new from Klaher! Here's art of Abadar himself . . .

And is this here a worshiper of Casandalee?

I find it strange that both of those god illustrations (Chaldira in the earlier post and "Abadar") have the characters dressed in red and green like it's Christmas. That's not how I imagine Abadar at all. I think of him in gold armor (the 1e illustration).

One of my players at least prefers this version of Abadar :D (they said something about this version looking much more regal than the "Tony Stark" version)


Syri wrote:

Ooh, new from Klaher! Here's art of Abadar himself . . .

And is this here a worshiper of Casandalee?

Without his keys and his crossbow? That's a big change is his visual. I can't say I like it if that's the case.


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^ He's a f!@#ing deity. If he doesn't feel like lugging around a crossbow every single moment, who's to argue?
I mean, he's not even an especially martial deity, so I don't see his weaponry being so absolutely critical to his essence.
Not every deity should have the same type of relationship to their "Favored Weapon".
Fixating on mechanical aspects like that seems like it gets in the way of naturalistic exposition.

Dark Archive

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I understand the book has mostly been laid out already. Will we possibly see any further information on Sivanah in this book?

Paizo Employee Creative Director

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the Haunted Jester wrote:
I understand the book has mostly been laid out already. Will we possibly see any further information on Sivanah in this book?

The book is much more than "mostly laid out." As in... it's off to the races. Sivanah and all!


Quandary wrote:

^ He's a f#%*ing deity. If he doesn't feel like lugging around a crossbow every single moment, who's to argue?

I mean, he's not even an especially martial deity, so I don't see his weaponry being so absolutely critical to his essence.
Not every deity should have the same type of relationship to their "Favored Weapon".
Fixating on mechanical aspects like that seems like it gets in the way of naturalistic exposition.

Firstly, please, don't get me wrong. The illustration itself is amazing. I really liked his green and red cloak and breastplate. But Illustrating Abadar without his keys and crossbow, is like illustrating Cayden Cailean without his tankard.

I mean, that's how he has been illustrated in Gods & Magic, PFCS: Inner Sea Gods and even in Seven Days to the Grave. Always with his crossbow and keys. There are at least two other illustrations of him and at least his keys are always chained to his waist (he is the master of the First Vault after all). We can't deny those two are core features of his "appearance".

And I'm not even talking about how he looks like a completely different character, fully reworked. I actually liked his new embroidered green and red cloak. So, It's not like I can't accept this new version, but it really doesn't feel like I'm looking at "old school" Abadar.

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The Gold Sovereign wrote:
Quandary wrote:

^ He's a f#%*ing deity. If he doesn't feel like lugging around a crossbow every single moment, who's to argue?

I mean, he's not even an especially martial deity, so I don't see his weaponry being so absolutely critical to his essence.
Not every deity should have the same type of relationship to their "Favored Weapon".
Fixating on mechanical aspects like that seems like it gets in the way of naturalistic exposition.

Firstly, please, don't get me wrong. The illustration itself is amazing. I really liked his green and red cloak and breastplate. But Illustrating Abadar without his keys and crossbow, is like illustrating Cayden Cailean without his tankard.

I mean, that's how he has been illustrated in Gods & Magic, PFCS: Inner Sea Gods and even in Seven Days to the Grave. Always with his crossbow and keys. There are at least two other illustrations of him and at least his keys are always chained to his waist (he is the master of the First Vault after all). We can't deny those two are core features of his "appearance".

And I'm not even talking about how he looks like a completely different character, fully reworked. I actually liked his new embroidered green and red cloak. So, It's not like I can't accept this new version, but it really doesn't feel like I'm looking at "old school" Abadar.

I can maybe see the keys missing being important, but not the crossbow part since to be honest, Abadar has never really been that much of "martial" deity so it was always kinda questionable why he carried it around.(especially since he doesn't usually carry it in pictures where he is in scenery)


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I wonder when they will update the Cover art and description for this book on here. The cover for this is beautiful and I wish to admire.

Grand Lodge

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I really hope that each deity that it makes sense for gets a feat or 2 and that some of them are non-class specific.

A feat or feats for starknives would go a long way since they are basically worse more expensive daggers and are martial weapons so don't get the Champion damage boost simple weapons get that would greatly help it.

But feats for Glavies for Shelyn would be welcome.

Also something similar to the divine boons from ISG


Will there be updates to the Sentinel, Evangelist and the other PRC's from Inner Sea Gods?


Syri wrote:

Ooh, new from Klaher! Here's art of Abadar himself . . .

And is this here a worshiper of Casandalee?

I like the art that has been previewed. Does this mean that we might get another picture of Ragathiel?

Grand Lodge

I am sorry to say that, but i saw a book cover on the Instagram, where there are Iomedae, Cayden Caylean and Norgorberg on the front like colored statues, and it looked way better as a Gods and magic guide than some dwarf fighting on the bridge.... So i hope that the one on Instagram will be final visualization.


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I much prefer Abadar carrying scrolls and books (presumably business ledgers) than a crossbow, though the keys being gone is an odd choice (though maybe there is a story reason? What if someone stole the keys? Not physically, as the keys probably don't exist physically, but the metaphysical keys?).

I actually really like the idea of a high level adventure to recover the stolen metaphysical keys of Abadar from some thief related deity or demigod (Thamir Gixx seems like a good option)

Silver Crusade

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Janus_Arcillis wrote:
I am sorry to say that, but i saw a book cover on the Instagram, where there are Iomedae, Cayden Caylean and Norgorberg on the front like colored statues, and it looked way better as a Gods and magic guide than some dwarf fighting on the bridge.... So i hope that the one on Instagram will be final visualization.

The one you saw is the final version, this is just a placeholder.

Silver Crusade

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Tender Tendrils wrote:

I much prefer Abadar carrying scrolls and books (presumably business ledgers) than a crossbow, though the keys being gone is an odd choice (though maybe there is a story reason? What if someone stole the keys? Not physically, as the keys probably don't exist physically, but the metaphysical keys?).

I actually really like the idea of a high level adventure to recover the stolen metaphysical keys of Abadar from some thief related deity or demigod (Thamir Gixx seems like a good option)

Or Grandmother Spider.


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Bestiary wrote:

Elemental Lords

The most powerful elementals are demigods known as elemental lords. Until recently, only four evil elemental lords ruled over realms on the Elemental Planes. However, recent events have allowed the previously imprisoned good elemental lords to return to their realms, causing massive conflicts that could lead to planar wars.

Is this going to be the new take on the elemental lords? Are all the good aligned lords free now?

I's also curious how Starfinder already assumed Atreia to be free.


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Tender Tendrils wrote:

I much prefer Abadar carrying scrolls and books (presumably business ledgers) than a crossbow, though the keys being gone is an odd choice (though maybe there is a story reason? What if someone stole the keys? Not physically, as the keys probably don't exist physically, but the metaphysical keys?).

I actually really like the idea of a high level adventure to recover the stolen metaphysical keys of Abadar from some thief related deity or demigod (Thamir Gixx seems like a good option)

I like it too,


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Janus_Arcillis wrote:
I am sorry to say that, but i saw a book cover on the Instagram, where there are Iomedae, Cayden Caylean and Norgorberg on the front like colored statues, and it looked way better as a Gods and magic guide than some dwarf fighting on the bridge.... So i hope that the one on Instagram will be final visualization.

Where might we be able to see this art?

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Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:
Janus_Arcillis wrote:
I am sorry to say that, but i saw a book cover on the Instagram, where there are Iomedae, Cayden Caylean and Norgorberg on the front like colored statues, and it looked way better as a Gods and magic guide than some dwarf fighting on the bridge.... So i hope that the one on Instagram will be final visualization.
Where might we be able to see this art?

Paizo's instragram profile.


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Wolf Munroe wrote:
I find it strange that both of those god illustrations (Chaldira in the earlier post and "Abadar") have the characters dressed in red and green like it's Christmas. That's not how I imagine Abadar at all. I think of him in gold armor (the 1e illustration).

Far as I know, Christmas is not a thing on Golarion.

Dark Archive

And Chaldira's coat always had that color scheme in 1e too.


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Instagram cover is great, I love the creepy panel of the skeletons reaching for the star stone at the top.


You know I don't know what I expected the Star Stone, and the Room it was stored in to look like but for some reason, I didn't expect all those skeletons.


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Ed Reppert wrote:
Wolf Munroe wrote:
I find it strange that both of those god illustrations (Chaldira in the earlier post and "Abadar") have the characters dressed in red and green like it's Christmas. That's not how I imagine Abadar at all. I think of him in gold armor (the 1e illustration).
Far as I know, Christmas is not a thing on Golarion.

Crystalhue is probably the closest analogue. Krampus is also a thing.


Lucas VerBeek wrote:
You know I don't know what I expected the Star Stone, and the Room it was stored in to look like but for some reason, I didn't expect all those skeletons.

Probably all of the people who failed, or at least symbolic of them.


Is this hardcover?

Paizo Employee Managing Developer

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YawarFiesta wrote:
Is this hardcover?

Yep, it is! For the foreseeable future all books in the Lost Omens line are going to be hardcovers.


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Adam Daigle wrote:
YawarFiesta wrote:
Is this hardcover?
Yep, it is! For the foreseeable future all books in the Lost Omens line are going to be hardcovers.

I hope this remains the case as hardcovers just plain look better. They're easier to display on a shelf, too.

Paizo Employee Managing Developer

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I totally agree!


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HidaOWin wrote:
Instagram cover is great, I love the creepy panel of the skeletons reaching for the star stone at the top.

I absolutely LOVE this image, and the whole idea. Kudos to the creator (s)!


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How much does this book get into deities worshipped outside of the Inner Sea region? Will we see any deities (old or new) from places like Vudra, Tian Xia, or Arcadia?


Paladinosaur wrote:
Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:
Janus_Arcillis wrote:
I am sorry to say that, but i saw a book cover on the Instagram, where there are Iomedae, Cayden Caylean and Norgorberg on the front like colored statues, and it looked way better as a Gods and magic guide than some dwarf fighting on the bridge.... So i hope that the one on Instagram will be final visualization.
Where might we be able to see this art?
Paizo's instragram profile.

Thank you. The cover reminds me of old altar screens! I love it!


Do we know when the product information and cover will be updated?


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Quandary wrote:

^ He's a f%$+ing deity. If he doesn't feel like lugging around a crossbow every single moment, who's to argue?

I mean, he's not even an especially martial deity, so I don't see his weaponry being so absolutely critical to his essence.
Not every deity should have the same type of relationship to their "Favored Weapon".
Fixating on mechanical aspects like that seems like it gets in the way of naturalistic exposition.

As an example, see Shelyn - where her relation with glaives is basically entirely because Zon-Kuthon.

The ascended gods seem more directly linked to "this is how they fought before ascending" though.


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"entirely because Zon-Kuthon" seems to be missing a word or two. Or six. How, exactly, does Zon-Kuthon impact his sister's "relation with glaives"?

Silver Crusade

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She forcibly took the glaive from him and is trying to release the souls imprisoned within it.


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My headcanon has her keep the glaive within arms reach (or as close to it as is practical) at almost all times. She only truly relaxes her guard when visiting Sarenrae or Desna.


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Okay, that makes sense I guess.


While I'm still unsure if I will actually be switching to PF2, I am interested in the setting books, especially those that explore new material or expand older stuff that didn't get much love in PF1.

I'm curious what's new/expanded in this book? After all, unlike a country or region, chances are the gods haven't changed much over the course of the years that make up the timeline from RotRL to Tyrant's Grasp and the start of PF2.

Though, I might get this just to have all the info on Nocticula as a goddess :)


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If you have been following Pathfinder Friday on the twitch you will known that the book will cover the Core 20 gods of the setting and 20 other gods - specifically non evil ones - like Nocticula and Casandalee or Kazutal and Tsukiyo. The book will also cover some Pantheons - two if I'm not mistaken - and rules on how to worship them.


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Fingers crossed for Daikitsu!


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The Core 20 gods are technically a pantheon. Just saying.


Ed Reppert wrote:
The Core 20 gods are technically a pantheon. Just saying.

I don't think they're meant to be anything more than just the 20 that happen to have the most worshippers in the Inner Sea region.

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HTD wrote:
Ed Reppert wrote:
The Core 20 gods are technically a pantheon. Just saying.
I don't think they're meant to be anything more than just the 20 that happen to have the most worshippers in the Inner Sea region.

That's exactly what a pantheon is—a gathering of deities with a shared feature. In this case, the Core Pantheon's shared feature is that they're the 20 most widely-worshiped deities in the Inner Sea region.

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HTD wrote:
Ed Reppert wrote:
The Core 20 gods are technically a pantheon. Just saying.
I don't think they're meant to be anything more than just the 20 that happen to have the most worshippers in the Inner Sea region.

They do seem to lack the sort of familial ties / interconnectedness that the Ennead or the Olympians or even the Norse gods do (with the exception of Zon-Kuthon and Shelyn, who are indeed related).

On the other hand, I'm a big fan that they cover so many different 'types' of gods, and aren't all monolithic in their 'origin story.' Some seem like ascended outsiders, some seem like ascended mortals, some were 'born that way,' etc.

Dark Archive

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James Jacobs wrote:
HTD wrote:
Ed Reppert wrote:
The Core 20 gods are technically a pantheon. Just saying.
I don't think they're meant to be anything more than just the 20 that happen to have the most worshippers in the Inner Sea region.
That's exactly what a pantheon is—a gathering of deities with a shared feature. In this case, the Core Pantheon's shared feature is that they're the 20 most widely-worshiped deities in the Inner Sea region.

That's not what a pantheon is, actually.

A pantheon (in religious science) is the entirety of gods worshipped in a polytheistic religion.
So those 20 are just the most well-known of the pantheon.

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Marco Massoudi wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
HTD wrote:
Ed Reppert wrote:
The Core 20 gods are technically a pantheon. Just saying.
I don't think they're meant to be anything more than just the 20 that happen to have the most worshippers in the Inner Sea region.
That's exactly what a pantheon is—a gathering of deities with a shared feature. In this case, the Core Pantheon's shared feature is that they're the 20 most widely-worshiped deities in the Inner Sea region.

That's not what a pantheon is, actually.

A pantheon (in religious science) is the entirety of gods worshipped in a polytheistic religion.
So those 20 are just the most well-known of the pantheon.

That IS what pantheon means in gaming terms, we’re not talking about religious science.


Eagerly anticipating the next Windsong release!

Wonder which God’s tale will be told this time.

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