Pathfinder Lost Omens Character Guide

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Pathfinder Lost Omens Character Guide

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An adventurer's life can be difficult, but long journeys and heavy burdens are easier when you have company. This guide to the world of Pathfinder presents the people and organizations that can help—or hinder—heroes like you!

The Lost Omens Character Guide features new heritages and feats for existing ancestries, as well as three brand–new ancestries for unusual heroes forging a place for themselves in an uncertain age. Join five of Golarion's most influential organizations, fight alongside the rank–and–file members provided in these pages, or clash against them in pursuit of your own passions and goals!

This must-have 136-page guidebook for characters of all types introduces three new ancestries to the Second Edition of the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game—the regimented and warlike hobgoblin, the plant-like leshy, and the inquisitive lizardfolk—provides 10 new heritages for the game's core ancestries, offers nearly 100 new ancestry feats, and presents 10 new archetypes to allow characters of any class to participate in the world's most notable organizations, from the adventurous Pathfinder Society to the rabble-rousing Firebrands to the magical masters of the Magaambya!

ISBN: 978-1-64078-193-1

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2/5

Had a long review on why I was disappointed however it would not save so Just the short version. Save your money and skip this one unless its on a deep sale. Not enough useful information and the 3 new races are a joke. Not my cup a tea that for sure.


Another great Pathfinder 2E product!

5/5

This is probably my favorite of the 2E products released thus far (excluding the core rulebook of course).

Not a thick book by any means, but Paizo managed to fill ever last corner with an insane amount of valuable information that was as fun to read as it will be to implement in our 2e game. I feel like there was no wasted space in this book. New ancestries, new heritages, new archtypes, new feats, and plenty of lore to go along with it. Extremely high quality product from Paizo. Pathfinder 2e has become my TRPG of choice, and many of my gaming groups are converting over to Paizo's masterpiece from 5e, some of which are old Pathfinder purists, and others that are entirely new to Golarion. This is an exciting time to be a table top gamer!


Great book for world building and player options.

5/5

This is in the running for one of my favorite books from Paizo overall.

The new Ancestries are thematic and help flesh out the options available to players who want to play 2E in homebrew settings or on Golarion proper. The new heritages feel like they belong and are exciting to see. The Ancestry feats look fun, and this book made me excited about the concept of playing a Goblin character were I wasn't really considering it before.

Then, you get the Organizations. While we already know most of them in at least name, the options made available by way of equipment, feats, spells, and archetypes are full of flavor and power. I'll also admit that the part that stood out the most to me was the full text of the Crimson Oath and the names for some of the Pathfinder Agent feats? I laughed out loud from at least one of them.

I highly recommend this product, and I'm excited to make use of it in both my home games and eventually in Organized Play!


Lots of cool stuff

5/5

Ancestories and Archtypes abound, along with a sprinkling of magic items, and a healthy dose of lore / setting information. Loving 2E so far.


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I am liking the pictures for the ethnicities.


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Valantrix1 wrote:
For the people who have this book, what stands out for you ?Which of the three new races in your opinion has the most possibilitys ?The same question for the organizations? Just curious on what people think.

I haven't spent copious amounts of time diving into the new races, but I know for sure that from a popularity standpoint the Leshy race is gonna be a favorite for a lot of people for one reason or another. I personally believe that the most interesting thing about the race is how far from human it is. Even Hobgoblins and Lizardfolk look humanoid to some degree. Leshy are literally just living plants, which gives them an extremely unique existence. Imagine the combinations of any of the classes outside of Druid/spellcaster. A barbarian fungus leshy, a fighter gourd leshy, an alchemist vine leshy. A rogue vine leshy. The image in and of itself is definitely going to bring joy to players, as it's just so different to plays something that isn't even close to flesh and blood. Even the elemental races are humanoid to some degree, as they are not elementals but more like humans tainted with the power of the elemental plane. Imagine literally being a ranger fire elemental, or a champion water elemental. It's just totally different.

Gameplay wise, the leshy are... interesting. They get 8 hit points and an automatic ability boost in Constitution, which means they're not frail. They get another boost in Wisdom, and a flaw in Intelligence. So, Alchemist and Wizard are not classes they would exceptionally excel in naturally. Yet, with their ability boosts, as well as some of the ancestry feats I've read, they can get some interesting combinations of what they could be. Even though they're small, there is really nothing holding them back from being a tank. They are on the same level as humans when it comes to HP and get the auto Con. boost. Nothing says they can't wear metal armor. Lore wise, they don't fit into the physical brawling catagory, but the picture of the gourd leshy kind of makes me thing of a leaf version of the Gorons from Legend of Zelda. I don't know why, not a whole lot of comparison, but they do. Small gorons.

As for the other races, I never really looked into them immediately, which is telling of the draw the leshy race has from a superficial standpoint. Hobgoblins don't bring a whole lot to the table in terms of uniqueness in physical appearance or lore. They're just taller, stronger, more militarily disciplined goblins. While this makes them different, how does it make them that different than, say, any other militarily obsessed nation? I find them interesting from the standpoint of how they create this unique bridge of discipline and monstrous culture and history. In the same way that the goblins have been demonized and ostracized, so too have the hobgoblin race. So, if you were realloy looking to play a goblin that actually could fit into the more physical, martial classes, hobgoblins your boi.

Lizardfolk drag the Dragonborn from DnD without the dragon. Though I do wonder if we will ever see genuine dragonborn in 2E. Regardless, lore wise, the Lizardfolk are seen as a more cold, calm, and wild race. They live on the fringe of society cause that's how Lizardpeople do, and so they make for another "monster" race that have been tentatively accepted into the folds of adventuring. They bring a lot of interesting creature/animal abilities to the table that make for unique experiences as certain classes. They have multiple avenues for combat abilities, like using their fangs and tails, while also being able to call upon other lizardy abilities, like using their scales to blend or sticky hands to climb.

As I stated before, I think the leshy are the most interesting, but I'm not disappointed in the lizardfolk or the hobgoblin race. It's more about the fact that the lizardfolk and hobgoblins are what you would expect from tall goblins and lizard people (though the hobgoblin military culture is a unique trait that I find enjoyable to play to or against). The leshy are just such a unique spin on things, and I find that part of them highly enjoyable when considering how they can be played in an in-game social setting, though I don't discount the hobgoblin and lizardfolk in the area. The leshy are just farther ahead. Gameplay and mechanically, all the races that have been added live up to an interesting potential, and I look forward to experimenting with them.

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I love that there are not only male and female but also gender-neutral names for all human ethnicities. I hope this will be provided for non-human ethnicities too :-)


Wait....there's a Human Ethnicity with a Breath Weapon?!

Silver Crusade

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Yep.


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Which one?

Silver Crusade

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Tian-dan


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Makes sense, what with dragons all about...

:D


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Ah. Feats. I see.


ShadowKni9ht97 wrote:
Valantrix1 wrote:
For the people who have this book, what stands out for you ?Which of the three new races in your opinion has the most possibilitys ?The same question for the organizations? Just curious on what people think.

I haven't spent copious amounts of time diving into the new races, but I know for sure that from a popularity standpoint the Leshy race is gonna be a favorite for a lot of people for one reason or another. I personally believe that the most interesting thing about the race is how far from human it is. Even Hobgoblins and Lizardfolk look humanoid to some degree. Leshy are literally just living plants, which gives them an extremely unique existence. Imagine the combinations of any of the classes outside of Druid/spellcaster. A barbarian fungus leshy, a fighter gourd leshy, an alchemist vine leshy. A rogue vine leshy. The image in and of itself is definitely going to bring joy to players, as it's just so different to plays something that isn't even close to flesh and blood. Even the elemental races are humanoid to some degree, as they are not elementals but more like humans tainted with the power of the elemental plane. Imagine literally being a ranger fire elemental, or a champion water elemental. It's just totally different.

Gameplay wise, the leshy are... interesting. They get 8 hit points and an automatic ability boost in Constitution, which means they're not frail. They get another boost in Wisdom, and a flaw in Intelligence. So, Alchemist and Wizard are not classes they would exceptionally excel in naturally. Yet, with their ability boosts, as well as some of the ancestry feats I've read, they can get some interesting combinations of what they could be. Even though they're small, there is really nothing holding them back from being a tank. They are on the same level as humans when it comes to HP and get the auto Con. boost. Nothing says they can't wear metal armor. Lore wise, they don't fit into the physical brawling catagory, but the picture of the gourd leshy kind...

Thank you! My last 1 e character was a Leshi, and I'm pretty excited about them.


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The three new ancestries are very cool but there are not many options for higher level ancestry feats. When can we expect more higher level ancestry feats? Will the APG include some?


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Lucas VerBeek wrote:
Wait....there's a Human Ethnicity with a Breath Weapon?!

This shouldn't be too surprising, since I've met some people on Earth who had weapons-grade breath . . . .


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Is the Dan fire-breathing thing depend on a Dragon-touched etc Heritage, or just Dan ethnic specific Ancestry Feats, irrespective heritage?

Silver Crusade

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It’s a Dan ethnic Ancestry feat.


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Actually, there's two of them. They're spell-granting feats, it's just that the feats say that the spell effect "appears to emanate from your mouth".


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I'm rather proud of those two feats. In my notes I have them listed as my 'Anime Hair' Feats, for reasons that should be abundantly clear.


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Gisher wrote:
I'm just hoping that the Lizardfolk don't get such a massive Intelligence penalty that it can't be overcome. I've wanted to play a Lizard-Wizard for a long time.

Now that the book is out, I hope you're pleased! Iruxi do have an intelligence penalty, but nothing that can't be offset by choosing the right background. And in terms of canon (and ancestry feats), iruxi culture has a strong emphasis on reading portents in the stars, with many lizardfolk working with their human neighbors to restore the city of Jaha--an ideal origin for lizardfolk spellcasters of all kinds!


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That voluntary flaw mechanic in the core rulebook makes it possible to overcome any fixed ancestry bonus or penalty, at the relatively minor cost of having fewer points overall to put into your character at the ancestry step.

That means that, of Paizo's three RPGs, only in PF1 are ancestry based penalties crippling for classes that depend on the penalized ability score.

Dark Archive

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The other ancestries pages are actually interesting because they list several ancestries that weren't playable in 1e because they were racial hd monsters.

So to list all of them, this is what these two pages mention as ancestries:

Centaurs
Minotaurs
Dhampirs
Tieflings
Strix
Androids
Kobolds
Orcs
Morlocks
Caligni
Xulgath
Duergar
Drow
Tengu
Grippli
Catfolk
Ghorans
Ganzi
Aasimar
Anadi
Geniekin
Gnolls
Ratfolk
Vishkanya
merfolk
Locathah
Ceratioidi
Gillmen
Grindylow

Did I miss any of them?

Anyway I find it interesting that minotaurs, centaurs, ceratioids, locathah and grindylow might return/be new ancestries in future.

Silver Crusade

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Lizardfolk were 2HD in PF1, so the "are formerly unplayable ancestries available in PF2" was a YES the moment LOCG was announced.

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Gorbacz wrote:
Lizardfolk were 2HD in PF1, so the "are formerly unplayable ancestries available in PF2" was a YES the moment LOCG was announced.

Well yeah, but I wasn't expecting large sized ancestries and anglerfish people among them :p

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With the size no longer mattering as much, they're far easier to make into playable.

On the same tangent, this opens a way for workable thri-kr*ACHOOO*desert insectfolk.

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Gorbacz wrote:

With the size no longer mattering as much, they're far easier to make into playable.

On the same tangent, this opens a way for workable thri-kr*ACHOOO*desert insectfolk.

I do hope that termitefolk they mentioned considering for distant shores ends up being thing :D Then again I also want second medium sized reptilian ancestry.


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Huh, you know it actually makes sense that Half-Elves and Half-Orcs are technically Human Ethnicities considering they've always been truly Half-Human since I feel like an Orc and Elf would make something entirely different.

Love all the art for the different ethnicities and races, though gonna be honest a Fungus Leshy walking into a tavern is going to deeply unsettle quite a few people with teeth like that.

Also "The flower of Iruxi culture is Droon, a vast empire of dinosaur riders in southern Garund."

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Plenty of stuff I liked in here! Lizardfolk at first level can go ten times as long without food and water, and take a feat to make checks half as often. Both come with other benefits, too, so you can make a character who needs less food, water, and air without giving up much.

Silver Crusade

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Anyone else having problems with downloading an empty zip file?


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When was it last updated? Mine was fine a week ago.


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Does the Leshy's ranged unarmed strike option have a range increment? I remember that was a concern from the preview.

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Until it’s clarified I would just use the Bestiary version’s range, 30ft.


Okay, could someone please convince me that the Ancient Elf heritage isn't ridiculously overpowered? Gaining access to a multiclass dedication at 1st level -- without having to expend any feat slot -- just seems much better than any other heritage ability, and it's equivalent to a 9th level human feat.

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1) not everyone wants to multiclass.

2) not everyone wants to play an elf who is ancient.


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LOVING the theme templates.


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C. Richard Davies wrote:
Okay, could someone please convince me that the Ancient Elf heritage isn't ridiculously overpowered? Gaining access to a multiclass dedication at 1st level -- without having to expend any feat slot -- just seems much better than any other heritage ability, and it's equivalent to a 9th level human feat.

It’s not the equivalent of a 9th level human feat. One big advantage there is starting another archetype without needing to finish an earlier archetype. The elf heritage is earlier, but mostly gives a second-level class feat at second level to a multiclassing character. A little better than the first level class feat like humans get, but not by much.


Rysky wrote:

1) not everyone wants to multiclass.

2) not everyone wants to play an elf who is ancient.

Not everyone wanted to be from Minata either. That didn't stop Wayang Spellhunter from being an overpowered trait.

Contrast: Versatile Heritage is considered a strong human heritage and gives you one general feat.

Ancient Elf to pick up Champion Dedication gets you the equivalent of five general feats.

Seer Elf looks bad next to Ancient too. One cantrip and a situational, highly replaceable bonus compared to two cantrips and a skill if you just pick any spellcasting dedication instead.

Gorbacz wrote:
Lizardfolk were 2HD in PF1, so the "are formerly unplayable ancestries available in PF2" was a YES the moment LOCG was announced.

Lizardfolk were in the ARG in PF1.

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Champion Dedication also gets you all the Champion's restrictions. If you're going to promptly ignore them then that makes that argument fall flat on their face since what else are they ignoring/altering?

Liberty's Edge

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Shouldn't Eclectic Obsession (gnome feat) have some kind of action symbol?


DJ Patch wrote:
Gisher wrote:
I'm just hoping that the Lizardfolk don't get such a massive Intelligence penalty that it can't be overcome. I've wanted to play a Lizard-Wizard for a long time.
Now that the book is out, I hope you're pleased! Iruxi do have an intelligence penalty, but nothing that can't be offset by choosing the right background. And in terms of canon (and ancestry feats), iruxi culture has a strong emphasis on reading portents in the stars, with many lizardfolk working with their human neighbors to restore the city of Jaha--an ideal origin for lizardfolk spellcasters of all kinds!

Very pleased! I love the various types of Iruxi. I've been planning a magaambyan, Iruxi wizard with druid multiclass since the "You're a Lizard, Harry" blog, but now that I've got the book I'm considering wizard with Halcyon magic.

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