Those rules for going beyond 20th level have not been updated by Paizo since they published them in the Core Rulebook -- so it makes sense for them not to offer any advice on continuing a campaign past that level.
And there are definitely issues with trying to add mythic tiers to characters who have already reached 20th level. The Mythic Adventures rules are clearly designed to interweave with standard level advancement, not come after it.
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Ya know, I know its really unlikely, but I keep hoping the article will include example statblock for Asura Ranas, Sahkil tormentors or Rakshasa Immortals :'D I so much want a sample statblock for each evil demigod types before Pathfinder 1e ends even though I know at this point its really unlikely to happen
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This volume also includes an extensive article showcasing the final material written by Paizo's developers for the first edition of the Pathfinder RPG.What does this actually mean?It means we've got several pages dedicated to providing our developers (and a few other internal folks) their last opportunity to provide you with content designed for the first edition. This volume has no separate bestiary (although there are new monsters) and no Continuing the Campaign article (although there's plenty of great GM advice).
I basically told all the developers: "Okay, you each get 2 pages to write what will be the last thing in the last adventure of the last AP of our first edition. Bonus points for tying it to the themes of this AP so GMs can more easily get some use out of it. Pitch me your preferences!" And then I curated and compiled it all for a total of--I believe--28 pages. (Patrick Renie took on the task of developing it all when told, "Welcome back to Paizo, now develop your peers' labors of love!")
I won't go into who picked what to write about just yet, although you'll see what each of us created when this volume comes out. There's a truly staggering variety: new archetypes, a prestige class, NPCs, monsters, and more. I think a few people will think "Wow, I never expected to get that slipped into first edition, but here it is!" and others will think, "Hey, that's something I never thought of before now, what a great last-minute addition!"
Is this where we might find the hint to Damiel's new occupation (as mentioned in the Fumbus blog post)? Or is "backmatter" referring to the ad page?
So let me get this straight: if Tar-Baphon succeeds in his goal of using the Starstone to become a god, he basically becomes Nagash from Warhammer, right?
I'm genuinely interested in seeing what his domains and favored weapon are, but since there's not going to be a campaign continuation article maybe we won't get that.
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Is this where we might find the hint to Damiel's new occupation (as mentioned in the Fumbus blog post)?
Damiel ended up skipping town on this one (this is why I usually avoid scheduling Chaotic Neutral characters for key appearances!), though rumor has it he has some high profile appearances still to make elsewhere in the Pathfinder universe. Apologies for the unintentional false lead.
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Oh man, this is the best the Whispering Tyrant has ever looked. I love it
The heck are you talking about? That's not the....
The final volume does indeed have the Whispering Tyrant on the cover.
The...TYRANT?!
THAT'S Tar-Baphon?! I...Holy crap...
I mean...it's not that I don't like it, but I honestly find other images of him more...imposing, more...well, tyrannical. Here he kinda just looks less threatening to me. Though the more I stare at this new one the more intrigued I am by the detail, I will say that much.
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So Tar-Baphon is restoring his body somehow...
...why do I think this is not a good thing?
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I do prefer his more skeletal appearance rather than this zombie like one. Yet, I do like his equipment, from his armor to his staff.
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I do prefer his more skeletal appearance rather than this zombie like one. Yet, I do like his equipment, from his armor to his staff.
He looks less like a lich, and more like the original interpretation of the death knight. Makes me wonder if he found somehow to become one, and we're using the Tome of Horrors 4 template. It'd definitely be a nice change of pace from the standard "lich spellcaster" trope we're so used to seeing.
He's sort of giving off some Freddy Krueger vibes.
Honestly, when I first saw the image at PaizoCon (there was a copy of Book 6 in a glass display case in the store), I honestly looked at it and went “Now who are you?!” with a goofy I’m-a-sadistic-GM smile.
Knowing now that it’s the Whispering Tyrant makes that entire encounter a little...well, disheartening.
That said, I did manage to get some small (but impactful) stuff about Book 6 outta Ron at PaizoCon (don’t worry, Ron, I’ll keep the surprises to myself) and to the GMs: you are in for a treat!
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Honestly, when I first saw the image at PaizoCon (there was a copy of Book 6 in a glass display case in the store), I honestly looked at it and went “Now who are you?!” with a goofy I’m-a-sadistic-GM smile.
Knowing now that it’s the Whispering Tyrant makes that entire encounter a little...well, disheartening.
That said, I did manage to get some small (but impactful) stuff about Book 6 outta Ron at PaizoCon (don’t worry, Ron, I’ll keep the surprises to myself) and to the GMs: you are in for a treat!
No spoilers, but I'm assuming the book will explain why he has his new 2019 face lift.
No spoilers, but I'm assuming the book will explain why he has his new 2019 face lift.Honestly, when I first saw the image at PaizoCon (there was a copy of Book 6 in a glass display case in the store), I honestly looked at it and went “Now who are you?!” with a goofy I’m-a-sadistic-GM smile.
Knowing now that it’s the Whispering Tyrant makes that entire encounter a little...well, disheartening.
That said, I did manage to get some small (but impactful) stuff about Book 6 outta Ron at PaizoCon (don’t worry, Ron, I’ll keep the surprises to myself) and to the GMs: you are in for a treat!
Shrugs I just got through saying I didn’t recognize that the guy on the cover was Tar-Baphon, didn’t I? Wouldn’t make sense to say that when I knew why he looks like that now.
Unless I was lying!!!
Seriously, though, I don’t think it’s a major thing—just another artist’s rendition of the lich. My juicy info I got from pickin’ Ron’s brain has nothing to do with the cover art (what the art depicts, however, is another story :-))
So is it just me or does Tar Barphon have Orcus' Wand?
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Seriously, though, I don’t think it’s a major thing—just another artist’s rendition of the lich. My juicy info I got from pickin’ Ron’s brain has nothing to do with the cover art (what the art depicts, however, is another story :-))
That was more or less what I was looking for. It's fine. Just means that when I finally get my hands on this in... August? Damn. That's so far away dammit. Oh, well. Something to look forward to regardless.
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Geez, Tar-Babhon looks kind of out of model there ._. He looks less skeletal than usual and where his Horns of Naraga helmet used to be bit large, now it looks bit too small to his head.
I mean, his design armor is cool and stuff, though I do kinda prefer the "creepy undead thing with long robe/dress" look, its one of things I liked from Dragon Age's Arcane Horror's design.
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I'd like to point out that Tyrant's mugshot is on the right corner of right page in each volume of Tyrant's Grasp and besides having the old classic Horns of Naraga design, his mugshot still doesn't look much like this one :D So I think its just different artist intepretation
(I do find it kinda bizarre since I thought Tyrant's design was plenty iconic so I'm surprised artist went for this much different design)
I guess, it's not bad...
But the nose makes him look a little goofy
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Carry on, I suppose,
--C.
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Well he did get ** spoiler omitted **This is my theory that will probably be wrong...
** spoiler omitted **
You’re wrong.
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Geez, Tar-Babhon looks kind of out of model there ._. He looks less skeletal than usual and where his Horns of Naraga helmet used to be bit large, now it looks bit too small to his head.
It's probably because he's got infused by positive energy, either from the repeated use of you-know-what, or as a part of is scheme to claim divinity through the Starstone.
I mean, that's the first time we saw him with "green" evil energy. Last time I checked, he was a "red-fueled" lich. So, basically he got radioactive ...Or maybe, i hope, he sacrificed his lich-hood to get a chance to ascend to godhood. That would be funny, yet a bit less "mythic".
So...no one else thinks Tar-Barphon asked Orcus if he could borrow his wand?
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He looks more like a Gary to me;)
I don't get it, what are these iconic features?
Geez, Tar-Babhon looks kind of out of model there ._. He looks less skeletal than usual and where his Horns of Naraga helmet used to be bit large, now it looks bit too small to his head.It's probably because he's got infused by positive energy, either from the repeated use of you-know-what, or as a part of is scheme to claim divinity through the Starstone.
I mean, that's the first time we saw him with "green" evil energy. Last time I checked, he was a "red-fueled" lich. So, basically he got radioactive ...
I am inclined to agree with this theory. I mean he keeps using positive energy that has been corrupted with necromancy. And after what happened to Gallowspire/Gallowgarden. Maybe his flesh is regenerating or something.
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I like the art too...but I still think Tar-Barphon is borrowing Orcus' wand for...reasons.
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I don't get it, what are these iconic features?He had a big World of Warcraft helm and lacked legs but other than that I’unno.
You forgot about yellow color schemed armor and lack of nose!
Thing to note is that all art of Whispering Tyrants have consistently had same features (including the ones in previous books in this AP, at least first three ones) until suddenly in this cover they don't. I'd have thought this guy was like that one lich from Carrion Crown who was cosplaying as whispering tyrant for some reason if I didn't know for sure its him because the art removes lot of those features you see in previous art. Like only similar feature between this and all the older art is "both are undead corpses and both have horn helmet"
Also, I always got feeling that Tyrant was rather tall.(which he is whenever you saw him in picture where he stands next to people, dude towers over Aroden) Granted, I do get feeling this guy is also tall,(and its impossible to tell without someone standing next to him) but I kinda feel like this guy is more realistic height than the "Geezus how is this lich size of two people standing on top of each other"(maybe under his skirt was skeleton hoisting him up? :p)
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The yellow color I could see but the lack of nose? Eh (if it was a living person that'd be completely different).
So basically his iconic features came down to his outfit. Makes sense they'd give him an update to make him stand out if the only thing iconic about him was his outfit. Which leads me to suspect we're going to be seeing a LOT more Liches and so they wanted him to be easy to tell apart from the others.
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Possible explanation for the "all-new, all-different look of Tar-Baphon" from the new blog post which COMPLETELY SPOILS THE END OF THE AP - read only if you really don't care about knowing!
I guess the pcs destroy his well known form and he reforms in the shown look thanks to his phylactery.
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How would he retain his fancy horn helmet if that happened?He wouldn't.
You can clearly see that the helmet shown on the cover of AP #144 is a different one than the iconic usual one. ;-)
Ah, so greatest loss of Tyrant in this AP isn't his army being defeated(or whatever happens to them that prevents him being able to invade everything at start of 2e), but losing his helmet? :D
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Sometimes the simplest expenation is the best which in this case would be the artist for whatever reason decided on that look and is not what the tyrant actually looks like (Which considering on one cover of this Ap we have a Gnome character that looks exactly like Lini but her character art inside is completly diffrent that dosent seem like to much of a streatch)
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Ah, so greatest loss of Tyrant in this AP isn't his army being defeated(or whatever happens to them that prevents him being able to invade everything at start of 2e), but losing his helmet? :D
Ah, but he did gain a nose! ;)
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*only cares that if Orcus gave him the wand, MAYBE now we'll get people to do Rappan Athuk in Golarion*
