no new edition necessary.
I certainly dont think its perfect and house rule the things I want changed but over all the system is a very good median.
A new edition of Pathfinder, or any system, is completely unnecessary. If there's anything about Pathfinder that doesn't work for you, if you're set on using the system, then you need to make those alterations. Why pay someone else when you can tailor a rules set to work for you? Isn't that one of the things we gamers do?
Maybe I'm alone on this.
I've only recently converted my group over to Pathfinder, and they've started buying the books for it. I can only guess at their (overwhelmingly negative) reaction if I suddenly announced that PF2 was on its way.
The thing that most frightens me about this post? (BTW I am in the "no new edition pls" camp)
I remember years back, reading Wizards forum boards, and a post like this coming up "What would you like in a 4th Edition?'. (I'm thinking this was? 06? 07?)
...24 hours later, they announced 4th edition.
There is a time honored tradition among many companies to assume the role of customers for fishing expeditions. I sure hope Paizo isn't doing that.
As an aside - I was recently watching the bonus features on the Stargate Universe DVDs, and one of the show creators mentioned something of parallel interest. He said that he thought that fans of previous iterations of SG (Atlantis, SG1) helped torpedo SGU because SGU was new and different and they missed their old shows.
I could see that happening with a premature Pathfinder 2.
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I've only recently converted my group over to Pathfinder, and they've started buying the books for it. I can only guess at their (overwhelmingly negative) reaction if I suddenly announced that PF2 was on its way.
The thing is, even if Paizo stopped printing Pathfinder 1.0 tomorrow, it's exceedingly unlikely that they would send the RPG police to your house to collect all the books you currently own, and enforce a "Pathfinder 2E ONLY" rule upon your games.
When Pathfinder 2E does eventually come out, there will be people who don't like the changes that it makes, and stick with using 1E. Just like each edition of D&D has people who like it more than any of the subsequent editions.
Make every classes MAD. That is all.
Part of the reason that I think that Pathfinder can go a long ways without a version change is that it's basically just D&D 3.55. That is, it has the benefits of being a clone of a system that had been heavily hammered on for years and years and discussed at great length. That means that it's not vulnerable to a lot of the things that "fresh" systems are vulnerable to, because in essence it had more "playtest" data than an original-ish system could ever dream of having. 3.5 is already a reasonably solid system; taking 3.5, filing off the serial numbers, and evicting the most blatant garbage from it is going to produce something even more solid. (Not to diminish the work required to actually do that, of course; I have lots of respect for the PF team - most of the PF original material is of superior quality to stuff imported from 3.5, and I consider PF to be significantly better than 3.5 in an uncountable number of ways.) With an original system, over the years that it's played, cracks start to become evident - cracks that maybe become intolerable over time, and which aren't easily errata'd away. PF, as the third "try" at 3.0, has the benefits of starting out with fewer cracks. That makes a problem-solving version upgrade something that's less urgent than most systems see.
I don't need a new edition, but perhaps a revised PF Lite, preferably with epic support.
I'm getting a real positive vibe from the 5e nuggests so far, so perhaps that will be the system for me. If so, it would not make sense for Paizo to go down that same road.
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Part of the reason that I think that Pathfinder can go a long ways without a version change is that it's basically just D&D 3.55. That is, it has the benefits of being a clone of a system that had been heavily hammered on for years and years and discussed at great length. That means that it's not vulnerable to a lot of the things that "fresh" systems are vulnerable to, because in essence it had more "playtest" data than an original-ish system could ever dream of having. 3.5 is already a reasonably solid system; taking 3.5, filing off the serial numbers, and evicting the most blatant garbage from it is going to produce something even more solid. (Not to diminish the work required to actually do that, of course; I have lots of respect for the PF team - most of the PF original material is of superior quality to stuff imported from 3.5, and I consider PF to be significantly better than 3.5 in an uncountable number of ways.) With an original system, over the years that it's played, cracks start to become evident - cracks that maybe become intolerable over time, and which aren't easily errata'd away. PF, as the third "try" at 3.0, has the benefits of starting out with fewer cracks. That makes a problem-solving version upgrade something that's less urgent than most systems see.
Of course, you can also apply the logic from another angle, and say that it's just another 3.5 / d20 system, with a band-aid slapped on the major faults of that system.
