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The evolution of the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game begins here! The rules in this book pave the way for next year's Pathfinder Second Edition, but we need your help to test and polish them for final release. The new rules make Pathfinder easier to play and learn while still providing the breadth of options that have made it one of the most popular tabletop roleplaying games of the last decade, allowing you to create the character you want to play and craft the stories you want to tell. Your feedback will help to evolve the game even further!

This 432-page rulebook contains everything you need to create and advance your Pathfinder Playtest character from level 1 to 20, as well as hundreds of new and updated spells, magic items, feats, and Game Master rules necessary to run a complete Pathfinder Playtest campaign! Delve the deepest dungeons with a brand-new goblin alchemist hero, or convert your favorite existing characters to the new system! With gorgeous interior art from Pathfinder cover artist Wayne Reynolds and new rules concepts on nearly every page, the Pathfinder Playtest Rulebook is your gateway to the future of Pathfinder. Your next adventure is about to begin!

ISBN-13: 978-1-64078-084-2

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Incredibly poor layout, making things difficult to find or look up. Amazingly dry text, making the book a slog to read through. Class and racial descriptions lack excitement and inspiration. Artwork is very cheaply put together for the most part, or otherwise recycled from past material. Disturbingly, this text is also a magnum opus of sexual and gender discrimination, only using "she" or "her" to the exclusion of all other sexes/genders.

What's worse, much of the information contained herein is already out of date!

Pass on this book.


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Now available for preorder!

Please note that this product discussion thread is for discussion of the book itself. Discussion of the playtest rules, or of how the playtest will work, or of the playtest edition in general should be posted in the Playtest Forum.


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Whoo-hoo! Pre-ordered!

...and now the four month wait begins...


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Dot

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I hope the previews start soon.

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Gorbacz wrote:
I hope the previews start soon.

When do you think they're gonna update the cover?


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So how much will the PDF be?


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Playtest pdfs were stated as being free. "PDF editions of the Pathfinder Playtest products will be available for free on August 2, whether you've preordered or not." Playtest preorder FAQ.


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Free.

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They will cost nothing, apart from your soul.


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Like anyone hasn't already sold theirs, except Tacticslion that is.

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Rysky wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
I hope the previews start soon.
When do you think they're gonna update the cover?

The only covers that aren't close to or actually final are the Special Edition cover and the Flip-Mat cover. What you are seeing is Wayne's final for the Playtest RPG cover.

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Jeff Alvarez wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
I hope the previews start soon.
When do you think they're gonna update the cover?
The only covers that aren't close to or actually final are the Special Edition cover and the Flip-Mat cover. What you are seeing is Wayne's final for the Playtest RPG cover.

I was just building off the Toothy Bag's snark but yay! Thankies for this info!


So are the old adventure books still going to be compatible with the new rulebook.

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Not really without some major conversion work.

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Gorbacz wrote:

Not really without some major conversion work.

I've been running Shattered Star and War for the Crown. It does take some conversion work because I have to convert the NPCs and monsters that aren't in the Playtestiary, but I wouldn't say it's major.

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Mark Seifter wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:

Not really without some major conversion work.

I've been running Shattered Star and War for the Crown. It does take some conversion work because I have to convert the NPCs and monsters that aren't in the Playtestiary, but I wouldn't say it's major.

Playtestiary is now my favorite word.


This is kind of a hard low for me. I just got into the system and learned the rules, and invested in some books. I guess I'll have to figure out how to convert backwards.

Dark Archive

Mark, I think it is worth recognizing that as both a long time player and a designer conversion effort for you is radically different for many players/GMs you have a detailed familiarity with not only a wide variety of rules, but a deep sense of where and what any underlying conversion math may be useful in adjudicating various uneven fits and the multitude of edge cases in going from a system with many options too one with fewer. For example in my case I'd say despite playing Pathfinder now for a number of years Its only been within the last year that I'd feel comfortable converting 3.5 material on- the-fly, without spending a bunch of time completely rewriting and building the stat block from the ground up.


I will say that something I liked about other systems I've played is that they would include a section to help convert from the previous edition. I think that would be a good addition personally.


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D V 723 wrote:
I will say that something I liked about other systems I've played is that they would include a section to help convert from the previous edition. I think that would be a good addition personally.

The developers have stated that there will be a conversion guide (in what form—probably PDF—we don't know yet). They are NOT doing one for the play-test as they want people to try it out as a straight up fantasy RPG and comment on it.

They will be putting out the conversion guide sometime around when the actual game is released (August 2019) as that is when they will have final rules to convert to! Converting stuff to the play-test would be a large use of valuable time for something that will change in 12 months. Really not worth it for the company.

Oh, and I wouldn't expect the conversion to guide to come out at the same time as PF2 is published; probably within a month or two is more likely.

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