Pathfinder Adventure Path #128: Songbird, Scion, Saboteur (War for the Crown 2 of 6)

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Pathfinder Adventure Path #128: Songbird, Scion, Saboteur (War for the Crown 2 of 6)

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Worn With Woe I Be

The county of Meratt is Taldor in a microcosm: a once-glorious land left to decay by negligent nobles. But to help secure Princess Eutropia's bid for the throne, bold adventurers must now infiltrate her ancestral homeland and overthrow the corrupt Count Lotheed from within, gaining allies and solving problems left to fester far too long. Can they play idle noble by day and hero by night well enough to reverse the county's fortunes, or will the weight of history's sins be too crushing a burden?

This volume of Pathfinder Adventure Path continues the War for the Crown Adventure Path and includes:

  • "Songbird, Scion, Saboteur," a Pathfinder adventure for 4th-level characters, by Crystal Frasier and Richard Pett.
  • A gazetteer of the county of Meratt, a once-glorious country landscape rotting from within, by Amanda Hamon Kunz.
  • A cult of personality subsystem so PCs can cultivate their public images and put their renown to work for their benefit, by Linda Zayas-Palmer.
  • New rules for relics: magic items empowered by powerful historical events and improved by feeding their purpose, by Logan Bonner.
  • A bestiary of monsters ranging from the spell-retrieving galluvix to the eyeball-plucking lamp blighter, by Tim Akers, Brian Duckwitz, Troy Lavallee, and Patchen Mortimer.

ISBN-13: 978-1-64078-025-5

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A really good one with some flaws

*****

This one was great, part one was a lot of dun with a great set up, part 2 was ok i liked the idea tho i found the way it was written to be a littel od, mostly becase of how sandboxy it was but that goes with the beast, part 3 was a great dundeon crall all together loved it


Good follow up to Crownfall

***( )( )

I really wanted to like this chapter more than I do. There's tonnes of potential, and some really cool ideas. It feels though like the writers tried to cram just a little bit too much into it, and rushed the process as well. Too much content, and not enough info on how to manage it.

With the addition of cult of personality rules, rebuilding tasks, relic triumphs, and possibly including more robust rules from Ultimate Intrigue, it's going to get complicated really quickly. I was hoping for some suggestions on tying all the new rule systems together -- especially a suggested timeline with cult of personality, gaining influence and rebuilding potentially all in play at the same time. Additionally, the influence rules include waning influence if attempts aren't made each week. With travel being as much as two days each way to visit neighbouring nobles, it really cuts into the time the PCs have for the other cool parts of the adventure.

I would have given it four stars, but this chapter also has many more grammatical/proofing errors than is usual for a Paizo product.


Okay, I give in

*****

This book broke my "Never review any adventure I haven't run first" rule :'D This book has too many things I like. Good foreshadowing, good intrigue, non lethal options, good relevant choices to pick from, potential to appease my guilty pleasure for sappy romances, mixture of horror and comedy(true love's kiss yo and the picture for "picnic") and management/building elements.

Majority of this book is players building up loyalty and resources until they can take over the manor, but if players do REALLY good job at it, they can do so without blood being shed at all :D You have no idea how I love it when book's main opponent can be taken down by convincing they were wrong and they should surrender.

Anyhoo, get this book if you:
1) Love good intrigue
2) Love interesting monsters and situations
3) Love good foreshadowing and mysteries
4) Wanted to see good moral choices
5) Love books that encourage creative solutions
6) Like to see Law vs Chaos dynamic being shown
7) Have guilty pleasure for romances and are glad when writer leaves option open for them
8) Love it when work shows multiple different styles of tone.
9) Have ever been wanted NPC give you "Okay, here is three doses of memory erasing poison if you f%@! things up roleplaying wise" style get out of jail card when you put foot into your mouth :D

If you want purely action and less roleplaying, I guess this isn't really for you?


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YES

Liberty's Edge

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This AP is gonna be awesome.


So far it seems like this will be the AP of Ultimate Intrigue! ;)


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Hey Tacticslion, it seems you made it into the AP! Anything you like to share about it? Will Pett horrify and disturb my party in the first 5 minutes, or is he going to lull them into a false sense of security before he strikes?


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Going to take Profession (Tinker) and Craft (Clothing) on my Rogue (Spy) to prepare for this one.

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I had the best time writing this puppy, heh, heh...

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Richard Pett wrote:
I had the best time writing this puppy, heh, heh...

Shouldn't that be "beast time"?


Chet Manley wrote:
Going to take Profession (Tinker) and Craft (Clothing) on my Rogue (Spy) to prepare for this one.

*whispers*

Psssst!

<.<

>.>

You forgot Profession (Soldier)!

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The Masked Pugwampi wrote:
Chet Manley wrote:
Going to take Profession (Tinker) and Craft (Clothing) on my Rogue (Spy) to prepare for this one.

*whispers*

Psssst!

<.<

>.>

You forgot Profession (Soldier)!

Wasn't that the plot for Stand By Me.


The Masked Pugwampi wrote:
Chet Manley wrote:
Going to take Profession (Tinker) and Craft (Clothing) on my Rogue (Spy) to prepare for this one.

*whispers*

Psssst!

<.<

>.>

You forgot Profession (Soldier)!

Counterintelligence trap sprung!


What do "launches igloo," "housing locale," "go call heinous," and "ein callous hog" have in common with (I predict) at least one npc in this adventure?

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Updated with final product description and cover image!


Wow! That's one sweet cover!


Also, Troy Lavallee? THE Troy Lavallee? Of Glass Cannon Podcast fame? (I also wonder how many Troy Lavallees exist in the world!)


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is that the princess on the cover?

Contributor

That is one spiffing cover, love it!


Hope the three S are three PrC.

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Bardess wrote:
Hope the three S are three PrC.

They most certainly won't be. ;-)

There are no Prestige Classes in Adventure Path books.
Also if they were, the updated description would say so.


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Marco Massoudi wrote:
Bardess wrote:
Hope the three S are three PrC.

They most certainly won't be. ;-)

There are no Prestige Classes in Adventure Path books.
Not quite:

  • #2, "The Skinsaw Murders" – Spherewalker
  • #8, "Seven Days to the Grave" – Justiciar
  • #14, "Children of the Void" – Chevalier
  • #26, "Rhe Six-Fold Trial" – Inheritor's Crusader
  • #27, "What Lies in Dust" – Hellknight
  • #45, "Broken Moon" – Agent of the Grave
  • #116, "Fangs of War" – Chernasardo Ranger

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Zaister wrote:
Marco Massoudi wrote:
Bardess wrote:
Hope the three S are three PrC.

They most certainly won't be. ;-)

There are no Prestige Classes in Adventure Path books.
Not quite:

  • #2, "The Skinsaw Murders" – Spherewalker
  • #8, "Seven Days to the Grave" – Justiciar
  • #14, "Children of the Void" – Chevalier
  • #26, "Rhe Six-Fold Trial" – Inheritor's Crusader
  • #27, "What Lies in Dust" – Hellknight
  • #45, "Broken Moon" – Agent of the Grave
  • #116, "Fangs of War" – Chernasardo Ranger

I stand corrected.:-)

With the exclusion of the Chernasardo Ranger and Agent of the Grave, there are no Prestige classes in AP books.
Those two are more of an NPC option, if i remember correctly.
The other ones are 3.5 versions or outdated/have been reworked i think (Hellknight certainly has been).


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Looks more like an evil queen or baroness then a princess.

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Dragon78 wrote:
Looks more like an evil queen or baroness then a princess.

Goth Princess!


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What I'm interested are those two new sub-systems; relics and building a cult of personality.

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Cool, we get to zoom in on a county. Also, sounds creepy and interesting!


after reading the product description, the Lamp Blighter seems like a hopeful candidate for an Undead or an Aberration. I'll keep my hopes up, at least until I check back in a few weeks to find a spoiler saying otherwise ;)

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So anyones got there subscriber PDF of this yet?

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Still awaiting. I tend to be in the middle of the shipping schedule.

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How about today?


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PDFs dropping....

-Skeld

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Hows it seem?

Grand Lodge

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Both downloads interactive maps are just the first page for me.


Skeld,

Any chance we get a little summary of the Bestiary?

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Eru the One wrote:
Both downloads interactive maps are just the first page for me.

Same here. Looks there's a problem with the interactive maps PDF.

-Skeld


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Thomas Seitz wrote:

Skeld,

Any chance we get a little summary of the Bestiary?

Yes!

Spoiler:

Galluvix (CR2 N Tiny magical beast) - fox rooster.
Giant Devil's Tooth (CR6 NE Huge plant) - looks like a 2-armed monstrous blob of pink ice cream with cherry sprinkles. DOOM!
Goldpebble (CR5 N Large magical beast) - aquatic snake that lures you in by looking like gold bebbles.
Lamp Blighter (CR6 CE Small fey) - I'm calling it a ghoul pixie.

-Skeld


Thank you Skeld! One more question: what's the relic system like?

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*sees picture for Opilio* 10/5 stars

Also I'm loving that so far this book proves to be even more intrigue focused than first book :D This AP is probably going to be even more roleplay heavy than Council of Thieves and Crimson Throne


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Whoah!

Plot Point/Monster:
First use I've seen of a lovelorn in an adventure.
Very creepy and rather disturbing—in a good way!

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Finished skimming, saw the Galluvix and that you can have it as improved familiar

I take my rating back, this AP is now THE best AP that has ever existed and will ever exist. It transcends the rating system, ascending beyond realms mortal can understand

But if you force me to put it in stars, 11/5 stars


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Yeah, the character on the cover is supposed to be Eutropia, as there is a wall painting of her on page 75 of the module. But she looks way older than in the depiction in the last module. From the picture on the cover I'd peg her at well into her fourties, instead of being 30-something as she should be. The depiction in the first module seemed to be more accurate to her age.

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Hmm? She doesn't look that old in the cover even with that hairstyle.

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Anyway, lol, didn't notice that in opening picture Alain is being intimidated by peacocks :D


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Eru the One wrote:
Both downloads interactive maps are just the first page for me.

Same here. No maps, just a cover.

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Huh, this reminds me of Dragon Age: Inquisition on some parts. I mean, you get your own estate to improve, you can improve your local hamlet and you even get to judge criminals with varying effects depending on your call :D Also, lot of influencing your neighbors. This book is pretty sandboxy for the most parts.

There are also npcs opposing each other, so there is genuine choice who to ally with :3

Other Cool Stuff:
There is use of profession midwife in the book. Also, if you spend enough time and effort to gain loyalty uber high, all of Lotheed's guards abandon his estate and you can convince him to stand down in verbal duel. Intrigue for the win!

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Feros wrote:

Whoah!

** spoiler omitted **

NOPE NOPE NOPE

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CorvusMask wrote:
Anyway, lol, didn't notice that in opening picture Alain is being intimidated by peacocks :D

Don't f$+$ with peacocks.

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Also, all three NPCs in NPC section have mention of what if you want to romance them :D One of them gets "If player wants to have tragic romance" mention

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