Correct, that isn't the final cover.
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All I know is that the Red Raven better darn well be one of the iconics for this one! :P
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Will the events of Tomb of the Iron Medusa have any effect on this AP?
All I know is that the Red Raven better darn well be one of the iconics for this one! :P
I guess is that the Red Raven, Alain, Kess, and Lem will be in this one.
The phrase "players drag a once-grand nation kicking and screaming into the modern day" kinda worries me. I really hope it doesn't have too many modern day political influences. Really kills the immersion when people bring that stuff into the game. But hopefully it just turns out to be What Jade Reagent should have been and have alternate routes for those that don't necessarily want to be the new monarchs Lapdogs.
Modern day Golarion, not Earth, we're not gonna be getting smartphones and hotrods in Pathfinder.
Yet.
Lol of course I just meant id be annoying to have today's political climate influence the campaign. I just think that kinda stuff should probably be kept out of an Adventure Path. And that 'kicking and screaming into the modern day" kinda sets off a red flag.
Although now I want HotRods to be introduced lol.
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Will the events of Tomb of the Iron Medusa have any effect on this AP?
This looks potentially interesting, though I too want to know if it will be using a bunch of weird subsystems.
If one could order an AP sub to start with the next AP I would be considering it right now. I wish they would do that because I can't see any benefit to starting on part 5 or 6 of an AP.
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Count de Monet: "It is said that the people are revolting."
King Louis XVI: "You said it! They stink on ice!"
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Looks like we've got updated cover art on this! And it looks like Hagrid let some of those "Book of Monsters" get away. LOL!
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AND THIS IS WHY ARCANE AND ROYAL LIBRARIES SHOULD BE NOT TREATED AS A TRIVIAL AFFAIRS. if the players want to get some new spells, or special scolls of secret knowledge, THEY MIGHT NEED TO FIGHT OF OVERLY AGGRESSIVE PAPERBACKS, SCROLLS TRYING TO THROTTLE YOU AND (potentially) THE MORE POWEREFUL SPELLBOOKS OF ANCIENT LICHS OR DARK WIZARDS TRYING TO COME BACK TO LIFE OR JUST DICK SOMEBODY OVER WITH EXPLOSIVE RUNES, SIGILS OR ENTRAPPED DEMON POSSESSION.
Thats not counting the potential traps and wards probably arrayed around the place. the regular libraries, it might take time to locate what your after(if its even there). the more powerful libraries, oh the knowledge is there. you just might have to fight for it first.
Monstrous books, I like that.
Cavalier, Rogue, and Investigator, who’s the fourth iconic?
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It's the Monster Book of Monsters!
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Amazing cover that screams HERE'S JOHNNY!!!
Edit: what's going on with that double pipe tho? :P
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The phrase "players drag a once-grand nation kicking and screaming into the modern day" kinda worries me. I really hope it doesn't have too many modern day political influences. Really kills the immersion when people bring that stuff into the game. But hopefully it just turns out to be What Jade Reagent should have been and have alternate routes for those that don't necessarily want to be the new monarchs Lapdogs.
Modern day in Avistan apparently means hereditary monarchies where no monarchs are married or have any legitimate (or even known) children. I'm serious; every monarch in the Inner Sea is single and has no known children, except for Stavian, which is kind of immersion breaking for me because of how dangerous that is for such a type of government. There was a reason Henry VIII went through six wives and it wasn't just a wandering eye.
On a more serious note, I will probably keep my subscription up for this AP for the non-adventure articles & monsters. I will likely never run it though because so far it seems like it will require an extensive re-write to scrub out the Whig history.
Right now, we need more book monsters.
On a more serious note, I will probably keep my subscription up for this AP for the non-adventure articles & monsters. I will likely never run it though because so far it seems like it will require an extensive re-write to scrub out the Whig history.
What exactly do you mean by "Whig history", and why do you feel you'd need to scrub it?
Amazing cover that screams HERE'S JOHNNY!!!
Edit: what's going on with that double pipe tho? :P
LOL! I just noticed that. Ole Stavian needs to learn how to puff, puff, pass.
I agree, could use more book monsters. Could also use (more) monsters based on clocks, ink, paper, furniture, paint, paintings, weapons, armor, pottery, jewelry, gems, plates, cutlery, etc.
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I'm serious; every monarch in the Inner Sea is single and has no known children, except for Stavian, which is kind of immersion breaking for me because of how dangerous that is for such a type of government.
This is a very interesting point, I hadn't thought about it before. I can't off-hand recall the other monarchs, but I believe Abrogail of Cheliax and Ruby Prince of Osirion are indeed single with no known children. I'll have to pay more attention to this in the future.
The same seems to be true for King Eodred of Korvosa, Queen Telandia Edasseril of Kyonin, and Queen Galfrey of Mendev. Interesting.
Uhhh...
You known, default setting assumes no APs have taken place.
Ah you're right. OK so he's not single, but still no offspring.
Good point! :)
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I'm serious; every monarch in the Inner Sea is single and has no known children, except for Stavian, which is kind of immersion breaking for me because of how dangerous that is for such a type of government.This is a very interesting point, I hadn't thought about it before. I can't off-hand recall the other monarchs, but I believe Abrogail of Cheliax and Ruby Prince of Osirion are indeed single with no known children. I'll have to pay more attention to this in the future.
I am quite certain that the Ruby Prince has children...
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I'm serious; every monarch in the Inner Sea is single and has no known children, except for Stavian, which is kind of immersion breaking for me because of how dangerous that is for such a type of government.This is a very interesting point, I hadn't thought about it before. I can't off-hand recall the other monarchs, but I believe Abrogail of Cheliax and Ruby Prince of Osirion are indeed single with no known children. I'll have to pay more attention to this in the future.
Prince Audard III of Ustalav, too.
There are story explanations as I remember it for why Queen Galfrey is not pursuing having an heir.
Yeah, she's a regular Sun Orchid Elixir user and about 100 years old. If she'd had any children, they might even be dead already. :)
I do recall reading a couple of medieval romances where a monarch would agree with his nephew or other heir presumptive not to marry and produce an heir with a better claim than the current heir. Maybe one or more of these single heirs made such agreements?
At least in the case of Cheliax, we know that the Thrunes have no fixed line of succession, so having a child does not actually affect the succession in any way. We have yet to see a king or queen from that house die of natural causes anyway.
Osirion, Legacy of Pharaohs makes no mention of Khemet III being even married. The ones next in line are his younger twin half-siblings, Jasilia and Ojan.
Unless it has been changed since Elves of Golarion, Telandia Edasseril is looking for an elf from outside Kyonin without political ties to father an heir. She, however has no intention to marry.
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The phrase "players drag a once-grand nation kicking and screaming into the modern day" kinda worries me. I really hope it doesn't have too many modern day political influences. Really kills the immersion when people bring that stuff into the game. But hopefully it just turns out to be What Jade Reagent should have been and have alternate routes for those that don't necessarily want to be the new monarchs Lapdogs.Modern day in Avistan apparently means hereditary monarchies where no monarchs are married or have any legitimate (or even known) children. I'm serious; every monarch in the Inner Sea is single and has no known children, except for Stavian, which is kind of immersion breaking for me because of how dangerous that is for such a type of government. There was a reason Henry VIII went through six wives and it wasn't just a wandering eye.
Does that logic even still apply in a universe where people can be constantly resurrected from death and have their lifespan lengthened considerably?
Why bother fathering/mothering a bunch of brats to continue the dynasty when I can just live forever as an Immortal God-King/Queen.
Death is poor people after all.
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In most cases, just because someone's spouse and/or offspring isn't mentioned doesn't mean they don't exist, just that their names and ages and whatnot have been canonized yet. Rather than spend 100 words talking about who the king or queen married and how many kids they had, general nation overviews can provide two or three potential plot hooks in the same space. When there's a narrative reason to give a ruler a wife or husband, we'll do so. But in most cases, stable lines of succession make for less adventure than potentially volatile political upheaval.