paizo.com Recent Posts in Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG) Discussionpaizo.com Recent Posts in Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG) Discussion2021-11-16T00:32:21Z2021-11-16T00:32:21ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)Ed Repperthttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3372018-03-29T20:20:46Z2018-03-29T20:20:46Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Jurassic Pratt wrote:</div><blockquote> I'm in the US and have a friend whose name is Ryan "X" II because he's named after his grandfather. </blockquote><p>So was I, but in my case so was my father, so I'm Ed Reppert III. Dad was "Jr.". Don't know if my grandfather ever used "Sr." - he died before I was born.
<p>I've heard of this usage of "II" for cases where it's not a direct succession in the male line. For example, I could in theory have a cousin named "Ed Reppert II" (I don't).</p>Jurassic Pratt wrote:I'm in the US and have a friend whose name is Ryan "X" II because he's named after his grandfather.
So was I, but in my case so was my father, so I'm Ed Reppert III. Dad was "Jr.". Don't know if my grandfather ever used "Sr." - he died before I was born. I've heard of this usage of "II" for cases where it's not a direct succession in the male line. For example, I could in theory have a cousin named "Ed Reppert II" (I don't).Ed Reppert2018-03-29T20:20:46ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)GM PDK (alias of Purple Dragon Knight)https://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3362018-03-27T18:47:09Z2018-03-27T18:47:09Z<p>It's the home of the Emperor so I would say Opparos is an exception. It also has the Senate, the other institutions, and a bunch of floating Grand Dukes with no assigned land.</p>It's the home of the Emperor so I would say Opparos is an exception. It also has the Senate, the other institutions, and a bunch of floating Grand Dukes with no assigned land.GM PDK (alias of Purple Dragon Knight)2018-03-27T18:47:09ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)Jim Crasehttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3352018-03-27T17:02:31Z2018-03-27T16:55:41Z<p>So, been trying to find this out via Google and looking at the Taldor book (and the War of the Crown books that are out)...but I can't find details on one of the "12" Grand High Dukes/Duchesses (the 12 Dukes/Duchesses that control a prefecture). And that one is Opparos.</p>
<p>The only "controller" mentioned is the Baron Oltar Vinmark, who is basically the Governor of the city of Oppara....but not the Grand Duke of the prefecture from what I am reading. Is it this Baron who is in control of the whole prefecture....is it Grand Prince Stavian III (the ruler of Taldor) who controls this prefecture...or is it somebody I can't find in any of the books?</p>So, been trying to find this out via Google and looking at the Taldor book (and the War of the Crown books that are out)...but I can't find details on one of the "12" Grand High Dukes/Duchesses (the 12 Dukes/Duchesses that control a prefecture). And that one is Opparos.
The only "controller" mentioned is the Baron Oltar Vinmark, who is basically the Governor of the city of Oppara....but not the Grand Duke of the prefecture from what I am reading. Is it this Baron who is in control of the...Jim Crase2018-03-27T16:55:41ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)Gorbaczhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3342018-03-27T18:34:35Z2018-02-21T21:14:52Z<p>The old book is completely eclipsed by this one.</p>The old book is completely eclipsed by this one.Gorbacz2018-02-21T21:14:52ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)captain yesterdayhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3332018-02-21T21:09:33Z2018-02-21T21:09:33Z<p>There's quite a bit more, I'm quite impressed with how much Mark and Crystal stuffed in it.</p>There's quite a bit more, I'm quite impressed with how much Mark and Crystal stuffed in it.captain yesterday2018-02-21T21:09:33ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)Douglas Muir 406https://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3322018-02-21T20:59:37Z2018-02-21T20:59:37Z<p>Can anyone tell me how this compares to the old 3.5 splatbook — "Taldor: Echoes of Glory"? If I have that one, how much new material will I get from this one? Obviously there'll be some; Echoes of Glory was just 32 pages long, and this is... 64 I guess? So presumably at least half of it is new stuff. But about how much is recycled from the older book?</p>
<p>Anyone?</p>
<p>Doug M.</p>Can anyone tell me how this compares to the old 3.5 splatbook -- "Taldor: Echoes of Glory"? If I have that one, how much new material will I get from this one? Obviously there'll be some; Echoes of Glory was just 32 pages long, and this is... 64 I guess? So presumably at least half of it is new stuff. But about how much is recycled from the older book?
Anyone?
Doug M.Douglas Muir 4062018-02-21T20:59:37ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)Merakihttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3312018-02-16T19:38:07Z2018-02-16T19:25:03Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">The Purity of Violence wrote:</div><blockquote> Why would a royal get a designation at birth? That's just stupid. How do you know they're going to survive? Sounds like a total cock up to me. Why not just admit it? </blockquote><p>I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that in a world with magical healing readily available, members of royalty dying before adulthood (at least due to natural causes) is highly unlikely barring special circumstances.
<p>EDIT: Sorry, didn't scroll down to the end before responding. Feel free to move/delete as appropriate.</p>The Purity of Violence wrote:Why would a royal get a designation at birth? That's just stupid. How do you know they're going to survive? Sounds like a total cock up to me. Why not just admit it?
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that in a world with magical healing readily available, members of royalty dying before adulthood (at least due to natural causes) is highly unlikely barring special circumstances. EDIT: Sorry, didn't scroll down to the end before responding. Feel free to...Meraki2018-02-16T19:25:03ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)Zaisterhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3302018-02-16T18:03:06Z2018-02-16T15:14:53Z<p>Thank you all for chiming in on my nitpicking, but I think this is going a bit off the rails for a product thread. Please transfer the regnal number discussion to <a href="http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uvxo?Regnal-numbers-and-other-weird-customs-of" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">the thread I created in the War for the Crown forum</a>. Thank you. :)</p>Thank you all for chiming in on my nitpicking, but I think this is going a bit off the rails for a product thread. Please transfer the regnal number discussion to the thread I created in the War for the Crown forum. Thank you. :)Zaister2018-02-16T15:14:53ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)Ryskyhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3292018-02-22T00:22:34Z2018-02-16T15:04:17Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">The Purity of Violence wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Jurassic Pratt wrote:</div><blockquote>Because there are real world examples of people being named that way? Doesn't matter if actual historic royalty was as Taldor is a <b>made up country in a fantasy world</b>. That can easily just be their tradition. </blockquote>Please supply an example of <b>a real world monarchy</b> that uses this naming system. </blockquote><p>Golarion is not Earth.The Purity of Violence wrote:Jurassic Pratt wrote:Because there are real world examples of people being named that way? Doesn't matter if actual historic royalty was as Taldor is a made up country in a fantasy world. That can easily just be their tradition.
Please supply an example of a real world monarchy that uses this naming system. Golarion is not Earth.Rysky2018-02-16T15:04:17ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)The Purity of Violencehttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3282018-03-06T03:53:37Z2018-02-16T15:02:19Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Jurassic Pratt wrote:</div><blockquote>Because there are real world examples of people being named that way? Doesn't matter if actual historic royalty was as Taldor is a made up country in a fantasy world. That can easily just be their tradition. </blockquote><p>Please supply an example of a real world monarchy that uses this naming system.Jurassic Pratt wrote:Because there are real world examples of people being named that way? Doesn't matter if actual historic royalty was as Taldor is a made up country in a fantasy world. That can easily just be their tradition.
Please supply an example of a real world monarchy that uses this naming system.The Purity of Violence2018-02-16T15:02:19ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)Jurassic Pratthttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3272018-02-22T03:40:13Z2018-02-16T14:56:54Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">The Purity of Violence wrote:</div><blockquote> Why would a royal get a designation at birth? That's just stupid. How do you know they're going to survive? Sounds like a total cock up to me. Why not just admit it? </blockquote><p>Because there are real world examples of people being named that way? Doesn't matter if actual historic royalty was, as Taldor is a made up country in a fantasy world. That can easily just be their tradition.The Purity of Violence wrote:Why would a royal get a designation at birth? That's just stupid. How do you know they're going to survive? Sounds like a total cock up to me. Why not just admit it?
Because there are real world examples of people being named that way? Doesn't matter if actual historic royalty was, as Taldor is a made up country in a fantasy world. That can easily just be their tradition.Jurassic Pratt2018-02-16T14:56:54ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)The Purity of Violencehttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3262018-03-06T03:53:15Z2018-02-16T14:53:46Z<p>Why would a royal get a designation at birth? That's just stupid. How do you know they're going to survive? Sounds like a total cock up to me. Why not just admit it?</p>Why would a royal get a designation at birth? That's just stupid. How do you know they're going to survive? Sounds like a total cock up to me. Why not just admit it?The Purity of Violence2018-02-16T14:53:46ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)GM PDK (alias of Purple Dragon Knight)https://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3252018-02-16T14:27:18Z2018-02-16T14:27:18Z<p>I believe in this case that Carrius II means that in Taldor, royals get their designation at birth. Also, without the numbers, it would be impossible to untangle this whole mess from a GM's perspective.</p>I believe in this case that Carrius II means that in Taldor, royals get their designation at birth. Also, without the numbers, it would be impossible to untangle this whole mess from a GM's perspective.GM PDK (alias of Purple Dragon Knight)2018-02-16T14:27:18ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)Jurassic Pratthttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3242018-02-16T13:33:24Z2018-02-16T13:33:24Z<p>I'm in the US and have a friend whose name is Ryan "X" II because he's named after his grandfather.</p>I'm in the US and have a friend whose name is Ryan "X" II because he's named after his grandfather.Jurassic Pratt2018-02-16T13:33:24ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)Zaisterhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3232018-02-16T13:33:03Z2018-02-16T13:33:03Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">captain yesterday wrote:</div><blockquote> His father John Thompson the second was also a coach at Georgetown, I believe. </blockquote><p>That is true, but his name is <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Thompson_(basketball)" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">John Robert Thompson Jr.</a>, not "II".
<p>I found the football player, though, it's probably this guy: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kellen_Winslow_II" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Kellen Winslow II</a>. I think though, that this is an incidental occurrence, and not really an American usage. But you never know. Thanks!</p>captain yesterday wrote:His father John Thompson the second was also a coach at Georgetown, I believe.
That is true, but his name is John Robert Thompson Jr., not "II". I found the football player, though, it's probably this guy: Kellen Winslow II. I think though, that this is an incidental occurrence, and not really an American usage. But you never know. Thanks!Zaister2018-02-16T13:33:03ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)captain yesterdayhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3222018-02-16T13:26:11Z2018-02-16T13:26:11Z<p>Otherwise there's a football player named something something the second.</p>Otherwise there's a football player named something something the second.captain yesterday2018-02-16T13:26:11ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)captain yesterdayhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3212018-02-16T13:25:13Z2018-02-16T13:25:13Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Zaister wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">captain yesterday wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Zaister wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Rysky wrote:</div><blockquote> II is used in (at least American naming conventions) when you are named after someone other than your parent in memory of them. </blockquote>Interesting, i didn't know about that. Do you know of an example of this custom? </blockquote>Former basketball coach at Georgetown. </blockquote>Thanks, but I can only find John Thompson III, I was looking for an example of the usage of "II" in an actual American name. </blockquote><p>His father John Thompson the second was also a coach at Georgetown, I believe.Zaister wrote:captain yesterday wrote: Zaister wrote: Rysky wrote: II is used in (at least American naming conventions) when you are named after someone other than your parent in memory of them.
Interesting, i didn't know about that. Do you know of an example of this custom? Former basketball coach at Georgetown. Thanks, but I can only find John Thompson III, I was looking for an example of the usage of "II" in an actual American name. His father John Thompson the second was also a coach at...captain yesterday2018-02-16T13:25:13ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)Samyhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3202018-02-17T12:08:59Z2018-02-16T13:11:33Z<p>It's right there, the first two letters of "III".</p>
<p>Maybe the last two.</p>It's right there, the first two letters of "III".
Maybe the last two.Samy2018-02-16T13:11:33ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)Zaisterhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3192018-02-16T13:03:27Z2018-02-16T13:03:27Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">captain yesterday wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Zaister wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Rysky wrote:</div><blockquote> II is used in (at least American naming conventions) when you are named after someone other than your parent in memory of them. </blockquote>Interesting, i didn't know about that. Do you know of an example of this custom? </blockquote>Former basketball coach at Georgetown. </blockquote><p>Thanks, but I can only find John Thompson III, I was looking for an example of the usage of "II" in an actual American name.captain yesterday wrote:Zaister wrote: Rysky wrote: II is used in (at least American naming conventions) when you are named after someone other than your parent in memory of them.
Interesting, i didn't know about that. Do you know of an example of this custom? Former basketball coach at Georgetown. Thanks, but I can only find John Thompson III, I was looking for an example of the usage of "II" in an actual American name.Zaister2018-02-16T13:03:27ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)captain yesterdayhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3182018-02-16T12:32:12Z2018-02-16T12:32:12Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Zaister wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Rysky wrote:</div><blockquote> II is used in (at least American naming conventions) when you are named after someone other than your parent in memory of them. </blockquote>Interesting, i didn't know about that. Do you know of an example of this custom? </blockquote><p>Former basketball coach at Georgetown.Zaister wrote:Rysky wrote: II is used in (at least American naming conventions) when you are named after someone other than your parent in memory of them.
Interesting, i didn't know about that. Do you know of an example of this custom? Former basketball coach at Georgetown.captain yesterday2018-02-16T12:32:12ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)Ryskyhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3172018-02-16T12:31:10Z2018-02-16T12:31:10Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Zaister wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Rysky wrote:</div><blockquote> II is used in (at least American naming conventions) when you are named after someone other than your parent in memory of them. </blockquote>Interesting, i didn't know about that. Do you know of an example of this custom? </blockquote><p>I don't know any specific people off the top of my head, I just know of the convention of doing so.Zaister wrote:Rysky wrote: II is used in (at least American naming conventions) when you are named after someone other than your parent in memory of them.
Interesting, i didn't know about that. Do you know of an example of this custom? I don't know any specific people off the top of my head, I just know of the convention of doing so.Rysky2018-02-16T12:31:10ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)Zaisterhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3162018-02-16T12:07:42Z2018-02-16T12:07:42Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Rysky wrote:</div><blockquote> II is used in (at least American naming conventions) when you are named after someone other than your parent in memory of them. </blockquote><p>Interesting, i didn't know about that. Do you know of an example of this custom?Rysky wrote:II is used in (at least American naming conventions) when you are named after someone other than your parent in memory of them.
Interesting, i didn't know about that. Do you know of an example of this custom?Zaister2018-02-16T12:07:42ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)Ryskyhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3152018-02-16T12:02:23Z2018-02-16T12:00:51Z<p>II is used in (at least American naming conventions) when you are named after someone other than your parent in memory of them. So Carrius II was named after Carrius I (who probably didn't start off with the number).</p>II is used in (at least American naming conventions) when you are named after someone other than your parent in memory of them. So Carrius II was named after Carrius I (who probably didn't start off with the number).Rysky2018-02-16T12:00:51ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)Zaisterhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3142018-02-16T11:47:12Z2018-02-16T11:47:12Z<p>The American usage of "III" is the continuation of sr. and jr. "II" is not used in that context.</p>
<p>The regnal number thing is made even more weird by information from <i>Crownfall</i> where we learn of Carrius I. See <a href="http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uvxo?Regnal-numbers-and-other-weird-customs-of" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">this thread</a>.</p>The American usage of "III" is the continuation of sr. and jr. "II" is not used in that context.
The regnal number thing is made even more weird by information from Crownfall where we learn of Carrius I. See this thread.Zaister2018-02-16T11:47:12ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Taldor, the First Empire (PFRPG)Samyhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9wzs/discuss&page=7?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Taldor-the-First-Empire#3132018-02-09T17:39:54Z2018-02-09T16:02:52Z<p>My favorite is still the middle name explanation, though. Pronounced Carrius "Aye-Aye".</p>My favorite is still the middle name explanation, though. Pronounced Carrius "Aye-Aye".Samy2018-02-09T16:02:52Z