Combat Tiers Base Set

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Combat Tiers are designed to easily engage your gaming experience. The transparent material will not obscure the gaming environment. Multi-tier possibilities allow you to create various heights, while the large staging platforms allow players to place multiple figures in simulated flight or combat, keeping everything sturdy and precise. Combat Tiers are gauged in one inch increments both on the prominent staging platforms and on the supporting posts, so ranges can be easily determined at a glance. With included extension posts, your figures can soar to even higher heights. No longer are ranges reduced to estimations—know exactly how the battle unfolds!

The Combat Tiers Base Set includes:
two 5"×5" (25'x25') base platforms
two 4"×4" (16'x16') middle platforms with integral 2" (10') post
two 4"×4" (16'x16') top platforms with integral 2" (10') post
two 2" (10') extension posts
two 4" (20') extension posts

This game aid gives you the ability to show elevations ranging from 10' (using 1 base platform and 1 top platform) to 90' (using 1 base platform, 2 middle platforms, 1 top platform, and all 4 extension posts).

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Broke on first use

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Joined the pieces together and they were stuck. Tried to be gentle pulling them apart but they broke. Poor design or manufacture. Too bad because they worked well as intended.


Not useful

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I purchased a set last Gen Con. After trying to use them, I found them way too clunky to use since you have to pick up all the miniatures to lay down the massive base. On top of that, they have a tendency to tip over, they're not very portable, and they're expensive. The only time they're useful is when the GM has a large flock of flying enemies.

Other times, you're better off using Chessex dice containers or flying miniature standees you can buy off of Amazon.


Great but fragile.

*****

Just bought these, arrived late and was broken when i pulled it out.
this is a fantastic idea, however this item needs care as they can apparently break in storage, there fragile, can fall apart if u pick up a tower, or even be so tight it requires force to separate.

Paizo is unresponsive to emails and i'm yet to be acknowledged, let alone compensated for the faulty item.

i hope i'm a rare case of this. this item would be beyond amazing during a battle

Edit: just recieved an email from paizo. they are shipping out a replacement for me. fantastic :)


Simplifies a Complex Situation

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It's really hard to to do three-dimensional tactical combat with miniatures. Battles that take place underwater, in outer space, or simply with some foes on the ground and others flying complicate measurements and angles. Combat Tier isn't a panacea, but it at least helps to solve the problem of visualizing and remembering where everyone is. The basic idea behind the product is one of those things that is really simple in theory but hard to do well in practice: creating elevated platforms for miniatures to stand on so that players can gauge "how high" (or "how deep") they are relative to "ground level." The Combat Tier box contains six platforms (four 4x4s and two 5x5s), two four-cube high long extenders, and one two-cube high short extenders. The platforms and extenders fit together so that miniatures can stand on them at various heights. Because everything is transparent but contains quite-visible grid markings, it's very easy to see how far miniatures are from one another in a (for example) "one square over, three squares up" sense. I've used the product in several encounters and found it works really well. The platforms and extenders are stable and sturdy, and they fit together logically. It can take a minute to figure out the right combination of pieces to assemble to get different heights, but it's worth it. The only limitation I foresee is that if you had an entire party of adventurers, all flying at different heights, against a slew of enemies flying at different heights, more than one box would be necessary in order to represent where everyone is. Still, this is a really cool product that helps to take some of the difficulty out of three-dimensional combat. It's a solid buy for GMs, especially those running higher-level adventures.


Fragile, shattered everywhere.

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I just opened the box, put two pieces together, and the one completely shattered as I pulled it out. Either the connectors were too tight or the pieces are too cheap since there is no great way to hold it as you pull. 5 minutes in and I'm now short 2 of the 6 platforms on my $85 purchase (the joy of being Canadian). Bought them after seeing Matt Mercer use them beautifully in CR, disappointed with the result.


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Scarab Sages Webstore Coordinator

Now available for preorder!


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Yoink!

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Comics Subscriber

Huzzah!

Grand Lodge

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Woo! Ever since I started watching Critical Role, I've wanted a set of these but they've always been discontinued. Go ahead and take my money.


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Glad to see these are coming back. I got mine before they were discontinued, and I absolutely love 'em. What a great product!


Cool!

Dark Archive

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How is the base pack different than the family pack? Both descriptions has same # and sizes of bases and extensions.


ckdragons wrote:
How is the base pack different than the family pack? Both descriptions has same # and sizes of bases and extensions.

From the Family Pack page, announced by the Web Store Coordinator

Rick Kunz wrote:
Great News! The product has been updated, and is being re-released as Combat Tiers: Base Set. They are available for preorder now!


Paizo Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Deluxe Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Legends Subscriber; Pathfinder Tales Subscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

How has it been updated?

Scarab Sages Webstore Coordinator

Zaister wrote:
How has it been updated?

The actual contents are the same as what was included in the Family Pack. The packaging has been entirely redesigned and made significantly lighter and more compact.


I was just wondering about the purchase itself. I have my order listed as pending. Do we not get charged until the product has shipped or sometime right before that?

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

We charge your card when we ship your order.


Ok thanks. I was just wondering how it worked.


Been watching these on Critical Role forever, very excited to finally get a set!

Are these the exact same product as what they're using on Critical Role, or has the product been changed in some way?

Grand Lodge

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TPK4EVA wrote:

Been watching these on Critical Role forever, very excited to finally get a set!

Are these the exact same product as what they're using on Critical Role, or has the product been changed in some way?

Exact product! Handed them to Liam O'Brien and Matt Mercer personally; they frequent my store.

Happy Gaming!

Julian Rodriguez
Tinkered Tactics


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Julian Rodriguez 6 wrote:
TPK4EVA wrote:

Been watching these on Critical Role forever, very excited to finally get a set!

Are these the exact same product as what they're using on Critical Role, or has the product been changed in some way?

Exact product! Handed them to Liam O'Brien and Matt Mercer personally; they frequent my store.

Happy Gaming!

Julian Rodriguez
Tinkered Tactics

Julian, that's so awesome!! Give them a nerdy critter high-five from me the next time you see them, haha.

Okay adding a third box, but that's it. Cut me off after that. ;)


I just received my set today. Upon putting two of the pieces together they got stuck. In trying to separate the two pieces the base piece cracked. Is there anything that can be done?

It seems that every piece in the whole set if put together all the way will get stuck.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

kingbrunies, please contact our customer service department (contact email and phone number is in the tiny type at the bottom of the page, or you can create a new thread in the Customer Service forum).


Thanks. I will do that.


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Julian Rodriguez 6 wrote:
TPK4EVA wrote:

Been watching these on Critical Role forever, very excited to finally get a set!

Are these the exact same product as what they're using on Critical Role, or has the product been changed in some way?

Exact product! Handed them to Liam O'Brien and Matt Mercer personally; they frequent my store.

Happy Gaming!

Julian Rodriguez
Tinkered Tactics

Just got a set. They look great. The box mentions an extension set. How can I throw money at you to get more extenders?


Finally sent my order off before these go out of stock again!

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

RON POLLARD wrote:
The box mentions an extension set. How can I throw money at you to get more extenders?

The description on the box isn't worded especially well—they're trying to say how high you can build using the included extension pieces. They do not currently offer extension pieces separately.

Silver Crusade

Just picked this up from my FLGS and wondering how folks show 15’, 25’, etc. as far as I can tell the combat tiers only have platforms every 10 feet.

Thanks in advance!

Dark Archive

Most medium-sized miniatures won't fit if the tiers were constructed at 1" levels. I'd suggest assuming each tier as 5', 10', 15', etc., while playing.


These are so useful, that I need to grab a second set before they sell out again.


Are you close to selling out on this set?

Scarab Sages Webstore Coordinator

Bendonbroad wrote:
Are you close to selling out on this set?

We have plenty available!


It's easy to count 3D range too. When moving along the grid horizontally (e.g., N N N N), count vertical movement as if you were moving diagonally -- every other one counts as 2 (e.g. N&up N&up N&up N&up = 30'). When moving diagonally and vertically (e.g., S&W&down) count every 3 as 25'. Count in the sequence of 2 1 2.
Unlike horizontal movement, the order matters, so count diagonal+vertical movement first (the 2 1 2, 2 1 2 sequence) then along the grid + vertical, then finally pure horizontal or pure vertical.
A+++++++ A is at ground level
++++C+++ C is 10' up
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+++B++++ B is 100' up
Range from A to C is 2 + 1 + 2 (S+E+up, E+up, E, E) = 25'
Range from A to B is 2+1+2 + 1+2 + 15 (three S+E+up, two S+up, 15 up) = 115'. [If you counted only along the grid you'd have gotten 1+2+1+2+1 + 2+1+2 + 12 (five S+up and three E+up, 12 up) = 120' which is too much]
Pythagorus says 23' and 104'.


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Are they comming back any time soon?


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I second that from Lushes . . . . any chance these will be back in stock soon?


Third this notion! *BUUUUUMP*

I have a set and they are amazing. Though i do recommend shaving down the insert pegs a bit with a sharp knife(i used a pair of scissors), as they are an extremely tight fit otherwise. Felt like i was gonna break them if i fully seated them. Now they have a very smooth action and as stable as ever.

Will probably buy two next time if possible. They're an invaluable part of my gm arsenal now.


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Starfinder Charter Superscriber

That's good advice, as I have accidentally broken one because it got stuck and I pulled too hard.


I see they're unavailable. Are they going to make more?


I hope they make more. I tend to play with dry erase markers on a battlemat which makes all battles 2 dimensional. I found out about these combat tiers a few months ago and I've been wanting them quite badly. I even tried to buy them from some chinese toy seller only to get ripped off. This seems to be the only source of transparent plastic platforms (who saw that coming?) and Paizo/TinkeredTactics are not keeping up with demand!

So is there any news about another production run? ...please?


They've been out of print before, so there's a good chance, they'll make another run.

Dark Archive

I tried them and didn't like them, in my opinion they are unnecessary as they obstruct the table and get knocked over a lot.
A D20 placed besides a mini to show how high in squares it is, is more manageable.


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Marco Massoudi wrote:

I tried them and didn't like them, in my opinion they are unnecessary as they obstruct the table and get knocked over a lot.

A D20 placed besides a mini to show how high in squares it is, is more manageable.

I tried them and I do like them. They do break kinda easily, so I am always on the lookout for replacement (parts). Interested in letting them go? I will pay the shipping...


And here i was foolishly hoping there might be a black Friday crop that would pop up. :(

Paizo Employee Chief Operations Officer

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Yes, they have just started the manufacturing process on a second print run and these will likely be back in a few months.


Glad to hear they'll be back in a few months! I was hoping Santa might be able to bring me one (or two) for Christmas . . . but just to know that they're not being discontinued is enough for me ;)

I already have a few of these sets, and I think they're fantastic! Not only do they come in handy for the standard situations of flying characters and such, but I recently put them to use as supports, holding up (at either end) several cardboard levels of both a pirate ship and a warship . . . and it made the whole waterborne combat (on the Sea of Gearnat, en route to the Tomb of Horrors) a blast!

Keep them coming . . . and please don't ever discontinue them! :)

Paizo Employee Chief Operations Officer

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Oerth Scribe wrote:

Glad to hear they'll be back in a few months! I was hoping Santa might be able to bring me one (or two) for Christmas . . . but just to know that they're not being discontinued is enough for me ;)

I already have a few of these sets, and I think they're fantastic! Not only do they come in handy for the standard situations of flying characters and such, but I recently put them to use as supports, holding up (at either end) several cardboard levels of both a pirate ship and a warship . . . and it made the whole waterborne combat (on the Sea of Gearnat, en route to the Tomb of Horrors) a blast!

Keep them coming . . . and please don't ever discontinue them! :)

To be crystal clear on this topic, we aren't the manufacturer of these, Tinker Tactics is, and it is solely up to them to keep the product in print. Paizo just acts as their sales and distribution partner and while we will encourage them to keep the project in print, it is really their decision. The best thing you can do to ensure the product stays in production is be an evangelist for it and help encourage the gaming community as a whole to embrace them as you have.

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Our thanks for keeping us in the loop though and they are great to see being supplied via Paizo :)


Oooooh I want these so badly. I'd order at least one if/when they come back. I'm going to post on the super ancient threads about these to re-link this product page and discussion.


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Jeff Alvarez wrote:
Oerth Scribe wrote:

Glad to hear they'll be back in a few months! I was hoping Santa might be able to bring me one (or two) for Christmas . . . but just to know that they're not being discontinued is enough for me ;)

I already have a few of these sets, and I think they're fantastic! Not only do they come in handy for the standard situations of flying characters and such, but I recently put them to use as supports, holding up (at either end) several cardboard levels of both a pirate ship and a warship . . . and it made the whole waterborne combat (on the Sea of Gearnat, en route to the Tomb of Horrors) a blast!

Keep them coming . . . and please don't ever discontinue them! :)

To be crystal clear on this topic, we aren't the manufacturer of these, Tinker Tactics is, and it is solely up to them to keep the product in print. Paizo just acts as their sales and distribution partner and while we will encourage them to keep the project in print, it is really their decision. The best thing you can do to ensure the product stays in production is be an evangelist for it and help encourage the gaming community as a whole to embrace them as you have.

Thanks for the reply, Jeff! Sorry for wrongly implying that you guys were the manufacturers. I knew that Tinker Tactics was the manufacturers, but they don't seem to have their own website where I can interact with them directly. And it appeared that you guys were the only ones selling them on their behalf, so you seemed like the only conduit through whom I could communicate with them and express my excitement for them to keep making their amazing product. That's why I kind of unintentionally blurred the lines between Paizo and Tinker Tactics in my previous comment. I'll try not to do that in the future. Meanwhile, if you have any other ideas for how I can communicate with them directly, let me know. And I'll try to be an evangelist for them whenever I get the chance :)


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While you are waiting for this item to come back into stock, you may want to take a look at this item. I just recently bought a few of them, and they look good for individual small or medium flying minis.

Unfortunately, the large and huge extenders for that item don't look usable -- I would hold out for a reissuing of the Combat Tiers Base Set for Large and larger minis in flight.


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Is this product still in production/company still exist? I can't seem to find any information on the company anywhere, and they target a pretty serious niche, and none of the competing products, at least on Paizo's store, seem to be anywhere near comparable

Barring that, does anyone else know of any similar products?


I would really love to know when/if they make more of these. I'm definitely interested in getting some.

Paizo Employee Chief Operations Officer

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Sub_Zero wrote:
I would really love to know when/if they make more of these. I'm definitely interested in getting some.

From the info I have, they are finished with manufacturing and are preparing them to ship from China. So give them another 3 weeks or so and they *should* be back on the site and ready to ship!


Jeff Alvarez wrote:
Sub_Zero wrote:
I would really love to know when/if they make more of these. I'm definitely interested in getting some.
From the info I have, they are finished with manufacturing and are preparing them to ship from China. So give them another 3 weeks or so and they *should* be back on the site and ready to ship!

Thank you for the confirmation. I was starting to wonder if they would re-stock.


Would love for this to come back!

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