Sandy Petersen's Cthulhu Mythos (PFRPG)

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Sandy Petersen is the undisputed authority on the Cthulhu Mythos in games as the author of the groundbreaking game Call of Cthulhu, the first game ever to bring H.P. Lovecraft's work to the gaming world. He now proudly presents the definitive and ultimate guide to bringing Lovecraft to the high fantasy, sword and sorcery worlds played using the Pathfinder rule system.

Here, your band of heroes can now fight (and maybe even defeat) monstrous horrors and bizarre, inhumanly advanced races in adventures featuring these unique entities, their magics, and the alien technologies accurately portrayed from Lovecraftian works!

This core rulebook features a bestiary with over 100 creatures, monstrosities, and Mythos Entities authoritatively revised and updated for use with Pathfinder, plus Plot Hooks and Campaign starters, information on Mythos Alien and Bizarre Technology, new expansive Insanity Rules, and details on Cults of Cthulhu and the Necronomicon and other blasphemous Tomes, as well as new Rituals, Spells, Archetypes, and Class Options.

Content Includes:

  • A bestiary with over 100 entries, almost half never before seen in a Pathfinder book before.
  • Over 25 Mythos Entities: Creatures in the Paizo's Pathfinder Bestiaries now authoritatively revised & updated in this book. Additionally, the original entries as found in the Bestiaries are also included for easy reference and comparison.
  • Over 50 NEW Mythos Entries: Creatures from the Cthulhu Mythos that have never before been published in any Pathfinder Bestiary.
  • Over 40 ‘Unusual Suspects': Creatures that could (and maybe should) be in the Cthulhu Mythos, found in the pages of the current Pathfinder Bestiaries. Some have been updated to reflect our new rules.
  • Adventures: Plot Hooks and Campaign starters by Sandy Petersen and others.
  • How to run horror in a heroic sword and sorcery setting by Sandy Petersen.
  • Mythos Alien and Bizarre Technology
  • New Expansive Insanity Rules
  • The Necronomicon and other Tomes
  • New Rituals and Spells
  • Archetypes and Class Options for Base Classes
  • Cults of Cthulhu and Other Great Old Ones
  • Mythos Magic Items and Artifacts
  • Aklo Language Essay
  • Mythos Ghouls as Player Characters
  • Mythos Eidolons, Familiars and Animal Companions
  • Tcho-Tchos
  • Gnorri as Player Characters
  • Advanced Adversaries
  • Zoogs as Player Characters
  • Mythos Cats and Mythos Cats as Player Characters

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Amazeballs

5/5

I went in on the Kickstarter, and my copy recently arrived. It's truly fantastic. I strongly recommend it to anyone interested.


Briefly

5/5

We play in Strange Aeons now and one of our players referred to this book while creating his character. Using these materials, he created incredibly cool and thematic 'hero' (objectively, the best in the group). Shortly after the beginning of our games I read this book and was amazed at the quality of the work. It looks like the best of Paizo's books. My respect to author and advice to everyone - go and take this book, you will not regret it!


An amazing supplement with flavor never seen before in Pathfinder

5/5

The book is amazing a must have. Perhaps you´ll think it is kind of expensive, but it worth every cent spended on it.

The only thing I could complaint is the art of monsters, I would love to see the art in Cthulhu´s Portfolio, but the miniatures from Cthulhu wars are ok.

the revised monsters from pathfinder are amazing, gugs now are scary as hell.

I put 5/5 but if i could i would give it 1000/5

It has flaws, a few, but at the end you really won´t care about them


5/5

Disclaimer: I backed the Kickstarter campaign that created this book, and paid for both physical and digital copies of this product. At the time of this review, the physical version was not available. As a backer, I received my digital copy of this product significantly before its public release.

All right! Here's another weighty tome - the PDF version clocks in at 513 pages, counting covers and the like, and the interior is a full-color production with a generous sprinkling of original artwork. The book itself is divided into 10 chapters, and we're going to go through them in order

Chapter One is the 'Getting Started' bit and dives into a few important things, especially how to use the book, a brief overview of the mythos (for the two of you who don't already know), and a discussion on how to properly bring horror to what is, let's be honest here, a heroic fantasy game. If you're looking for a true horror feel in your game, not just a few monsters with more tentacles than most, this section is required reading. Memorize it, even.

Chapter Two introduces Mythos Races that people can choose from. Dreamlands Cats are definitely the most unique, because you are playing an actual cat. Good luck with any Strength-based builds. Dreamlands Cats have scent, bite and claw attacks, the ability to physically travel to the Dreamlands, and nine lives. That might be important, given how fragile they are.

The next race is the Ghoul - which is not to be confused with the undead ghoul monster, despite the cannibalistic similarities. This race is living, with bonuses to Constitution and Intelligence, but little Charisma to speak of. Their Death Scent allows them to locate food (especially undead, which they can locate from up to 60 feet away - handy for dungeon crawls!), and they can feed on old meat for bonuses. Being immune to nonmagical diseases definitely helps with that.

The third race is the Gnorri, who are large monstrous aquatic humanoids. Their most unique feature may be the ability to change how many arms they have - two arms gives them a bonus to Strength, three has no ability changes but lets them hold something else, and four lets them hold a lot more at the cost of a drop in Constitution. They are amphibious, but slower on land and faster in the water.

The final race, Zoogs, are described as "widely dreaded and sometimes mocked from a safe distance". The book points out that all of the creepy legends are quite well-founded, and they really are dangerous little things. This race is especially big on treaties and agreements (which they consider sacrosanct), and this provides an easy way to integrate them into an Adventuring party - just have them promise not to eat party members, not to eat the party's familiars, and so forth. Zoogs are quick and smart, but not very strong. As small creatures, they get added bonuses on agility-based things - including a natural climb speed - and they make excellent rogues thanks to their Trap Mastery.

All of the races in the book come with robust writeups that describe personalities, history, culture, relations, and the like.

Chapter Three, Character Options, focuses on exactly what it sounds like. The section opens with a variety of mythos-themed archetypes (and the rules for applying them, if your group hasn't already gotten those). Examples include the "Mad Artist" Bard, the "Cultist" Cleric, and the "Researcher" Rogue.

Following this, we also have a few options for companions, including mutated versions of normal creatures and original companions like the Shantak. A Mythos Eidolon was included - so, did you ever want to summon and attack your foes with a protoplasmic mass of angry flesh? Yup, that's a thing now.

Past that, we have one new skill - Profession (Yog-Sothothery philosopher). This helps with many of the rules in the book, as well as identifying mythos-related entities (i.e. basically everything else in the book). Note that studying the unknown comes with drawbacks, starting with penalties to dread (a new effect), insanity, and confusion. Hey, nobody promised that dealing with mad eldritch things would be safe. XD

The book continues this section with a variety of new feats, mostly oriented around the new races. (Ghouls can heal from negative energy damage, anyone can go to the Dreamlands, magical items can be fused into a Dreamlands Cat's body, etc.). They're definitely worth taking a look at if you plan to use this book in your game.

Past that is one of the more unique options in the book - playing primarily as a familiar, complete with your own Sorcerer as a companion. Another archetype, the Prowler, makes melee combat more viable for cats, while the other races have their own archetypes for added fun and flavor.

After ALL of that, we finally reach Chapter Four, Insanity and Dreams. Dread is a new mechanic governing how badly you're messed up by Eldritch things, and all characters get a threshold of 3 + Wis. Exposure beyond the threshold has effects ranging from the minor (Disturbed, which has no in-game effect) to fainting and having a Heart Attack (2d6 Con damage). Characters can make a Will Save to avoid dread, and the book notes that it should only be used for particularly dangerous or dramatic things, rather than every time people encounter something creepy. Overuse takes away from the impact, after all.

The book also recommends the use of the Dread Resistance rule (which, basically, says that creatures immune to fear stuff get a bonus to dread).

A more long-term condition is Insanity, which can be acquired in multiple ways and manifests in the form of phobias, obsessions, erratic behavior, and the like. This is an alteration of normal insanity rules, and should also affect things like the insanity spell. Tables are included to help randomize the insanities, and - ahem - the art in this section demonstrates one of the many reasons this book is not for children.

(No, seriously. Fanservice art aside, this is a horror-focused book, and a certain amount of maturity is needed to make it work in a game. I strongly recommend against allowing children to read this product.)

The latter part of this chapter focuses on the Dreamlands, an important part of the Mythos. Characters normally don't remember what goes on in the Dreamlands, but some - like Dreamlands Cats - always remember. While the Dreamlands exist as a distinct plane of existence, they are almost impossible to reach by transport magic and the like (Plane Shift and Gate auto-fail, and even Wishes may fail). Time is distorted in the Dreamlands, and people (all of whom visit there when they sleep) can lead very different lives. This offers significant potential for having characters wake up with absolutely no idea what's going on - could be fun.

Several options - including items and feats - make it easier to remember what goes on.

Chapter Five focuses on magic, beginning with a variety of new spells. (These include things like shrinking a person but not their gear, getting rid of a target's highest available spell slot, and sending a dream of Cthulhu to give someone an insanity). Some of these are pretty nasty - say, implanting a Dark Young into somebody - and regularly using some of these might well drive characters towards Chaotic and/or Evil. No, really - those are fairly common descriptors among the spells. Characters from Occult Adventures are thrown a bone, here, and can take many of the new spells.

Beyond the spells, we get a section introducing Rituals, which are designed to be done as a group and can have significant effects. Rituals go from 2nd to 9th level (no easy 1st level rituals, sorry), and have effects ranging from summoning up an uncontrolled entity to scrying the Yellow Sign (of Hastur) on things. Defense-minded characters will probably want to look into the Create Elder Sign ritual, which can ward objects and places. Or, y'know, you could summon Azathoth. ...This is not recommended, since it usually leads to the destruction of the planet in short order.

In Chapter Six, we're introduced to Mythos Items and Artifacts. These range from the relatively mundane (a teapot that can only poison drinks for some people) to the more worrying (flasks that can turn into proto-Shoggoths) to the quite concerning (a drink that heals diseases and physical ability damage, but starts to turn you into a monster unless you succeed on a Fort throw).

Outside of these "normal" items, we have some alien objects that can't be easily manufactured or recharged, only found. Some of these are mildly useful (a drink that makes you 1d10 years younger), others are more useful (a drug that lets you ask a question about the past or future, a gate that teleports to a specific other location, etc.).

Up next is one of my favorite parts of this product - the Books of the Cthulhu Mythos. I love eldritch grimoires, so having a section with them was a special treat. Actually reading these tomes requires research, and you get a bonus over time if you keep studying it. Of course, it's a Mythos tome, so it's not that safe - each research check also has a chance of causing Dread (a rare case where it's commonly inflicted), but overcoming this may also award XP.

Each book offers a variety of benefits, including bonuses to certain skills, knowledge of spells and/or rituals, and occasionally specific and unique effects (like learning a spell you normally couldn't have). Tomes like the Book of Eibon, the Celaeno Fragments, and (of course) the Necronomicon are included. That last one is, perhaps unsurprisingly, the most complex and potentially dangerous book.

That said, mythos tomes are designed specifically to attract the unwary. Researching them isn't actually that hard - they do give you a bonus to it, after all. There's just, y'know, the possibility of going insane, dying, or calling up things far beyond your ability to control. Fun for the whole cult!

From there, this book goes into unique magical items. Some are fairly specific in nature (like the Chain of the Deep, a neck slot item that gives a bonus to Constitution but only works for certain types of creatures), others are useful for adventuring (the Silver Key, which helps when visiting the Dreamlands), and a few are quite powerful indeed (the Lamp of Alhazred, which can project windows to other times and places... and perhaps even allow teleporting to them).

The items section finishes up with a couple of Artifacts. The R'lyeh Disk fragments provide benefits to mythos entities (or can summon Cthulhu if they're put together - and no, of course he's not under you control), while the R'lyeh Tablet essentially has people Astral Project to R'lyeh and may even let them bring things back. Lots of plot opportunities, there. Meanwhile, the Shining Trapezohedron acts as a highly accurate Divination spell (that you can use at-will), but also has a chance of terrifying the watcher or, worse, summoning an avatar of Nyarlathotep.

Chapter Seven walks us through mythos cults. Each cult is described in detail and comes with a variety of gifts (benefits and options available only to members of the cult). For example, the cult of Shub-Niggurath may receive living horrors as pets/familiars/companions or Mi-Go technology, while the cults of Nyarlathotep grant different gifts based on the aspect being worshipped (from flight to one-time spells usable regardless of casting ability). These are interesting for tweaking enemies, and equally flavorful if your players are playing cultists.

The cults are focused on the most popular mythos entities - Cthulhu, Hastur, Azathoth, Yog-Sothoth, etc. - but some shorter entries are provided for other entities. (Atlach-Nacha, Bokrug, Dagon & Hydra, etc.)

We also get some pages on Tcho-Tcho (a human subculture), Deep Ones, general religious views of mythos entities, and how less-eldritch creatures tend to see the cults.

Chapter Eight - and would you believe we're only 40% of the way into this thing? - focuses on the Great Old Ones and the Outer Gods. Unlike the official bestiary entries, Great Old Ones - which aren't full deities - aren't really meant to be fought with this book. Fighting may help banish them, but they're difficult or impossible to actually hurt.

Instead, entities get an Elder Influence stat block. This is essentially a targetable area effect with one AC (yes, touch attacks also have to hit it - low BAB classes have almost no hope of doing so aside from spells that give them, like, a +20 to accuracy). For example, Abhoth - Outer God of disease, fecundity, and oozes - has a 300 foot influence with a 50 square foot nucleus, an AC of 40, almost 500 HP, and a +24 bonus to its saves. When it manifests, it spawns Filth (which are similar to proto-shoggoths), and damaging the influence creates more filth. If too many are present, Abhoth absorbs them and heals. Each filth can have a special power or effect, and damaging the area or the filth triggers a wide-range mind control effect.

Yes, it's nasty. Yes, it's really nasty. Yes, it's intentional. Elder Influences aren't the sort of thing you can just have a Paladin smite and full attack to get rid of. There's some 26 entities with influences presented, and yes, some of them are worse than Abhoth. (Azathoth, for example, requires accurately dealing over 700 HP in one round - while Great Cthulhu has multiple stages of influence and defeating him only sets him back one stage... so the fight may not be over yet). All in all, the section is about 90 pages all by itself.

Chapter Nine gives us the Mythos Bestiary, another hundred or so pages of creatures for parties to face. Note that simple combat encounters aren't always the best way to use these creatures. Many of them honestly don't care that much about mortals, and may not even want to fight unless they really have to.

Chapter Ten is an expanded bestiary, generally reprinting content from other sources. Republished content is inherently less valuable, but this is a mythos-themed book, and there's some genuine utility in having most such creatures in one tome instead of having to search through all of your other books. This section is also about a hundred pages - 20% of the book, give or take a smidge - and does include things like Cthulhu's stat block if you want to use it.

The book wraps up with an appendixes (creatures by CR - including Elder Influences) and the OGL.

Overall, this is a solid product, with few problems and errors. I did notice a couple - for example, there's a sidebar titled "Gamemaster's Note" that deals with the Dreamlands. That's not a problem by itself, but there's an index of sidebars on the front, and the title is vague enough to provide no helpful information when looking at that index. It's a minor quibble, as such things go, but it is a quibble all the same.

That said, this book is pretty much everything I hoped it would be when I chose to help fund it. I definitely got my money's worth, and if you enjoy some Lovecraftian lore in your games - as I do - then this is the mythos product to get. It gets 5 Stars, a Stamp of Approval, and my Recommendation.


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I know Chaosium has a stranglehold on nearly all things Cthulhu, so is this essentially a collab? Do they just require citation?


As far as I can tell, Chaosium was not involved in the creation of this product - at least, I don't think they're cited. All citations, etc., follow the terms of the OGL.

Scarab Sages

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Cannot. Wait. So soooooooooon!!!!


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It seems like this has been asked a few times without answer (that I can find), for multiple reasons, but does anyone know if there will be a PDF and/or PDF&book combo?


I emailed them, the other night, about when a PDF would be available for purchase.

The response I received was, "No, the PDF was sold only in our KS for now."

Unfortuntely, I was not able to participate in the Kickstarter, at the time. So, I missed out on being able to be a backer. I truly hope that they will make the PDF available for purchase, as soon as possible.

I watched a video preview of the book on the Kickstarter page, today, and it appears to be quite a beautiful book for Pathfinder and Cthulhu.

Though I would prefer to purchase the PDF, as I GM from my laptop and read books on my tablet, I may still buy the physical book, as I have started reading Lovecraft's works and would like to see how Petersen portrays them through the Pathfinder ruleset.

Liberty's Edge

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Yeah - I DM from my iPad, and Paizo's PDFs are wonderful! I really hope they make upt their mind about the pdf of this one, as there are sure many who would buy it. I missed the KS as well and it would be a shame to be kind of "punished" (sounds harder than I mean it) because of it.


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Hrothgar Rannúlfr wrote:

I emailed them, the other night, about when a PDF would be available for purchase.

The response I received was, "No, the PDF was sold only in our KS for now."

Thank you. I just wanted to make sure I didn't commit to a book-only purchase to later find a combo gets offered.

Liberty's Edge

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To be honest, I don't think they will never offer this as a pdf...


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I asked over on Kickstarter, and their Sales Manager popped in. Looks like the plan* is to not sell the PDF until physical copies are going out - which is, like, in a week-ish unless the big shipment got delayed, and that can happen with international orders - but unless something's changed, the PDF is not a Kickstarter exclusive. The question is less "if" the PDF will be available elsewhere, and more "when". If you're looking for a combo physical/PDF order, I would definitely hold off for now.

*Plans are subject to change, of course, so nothing is 100% guaranteed.


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GM Rednal wrote:

I asked over on Kickstarter, and their Sales Manager popped in. Looks like the plan* is to not sell the PDF until physical copies are going out - which is, like, in a week-ish unless the big shipment got delayed, and that can happen with international orders - but unless something's changed, the PDF is not a Kickstarter exclusive. The question is less "if" the PDF will be available elsewhere, and more "when". If you're looking for a combo physical/PDF order, I would definitely hold off for now.

*Plans are subject to change, of course, so nothing is 100% guaranteed.

Thank you very much. (And them, for providing the info.)

I don't "need" this material for another probably six months, so I can afford to sit back and keep an eye on it.


GRuzom wrote:
GM Rednal wrote:
... Worldwide shipments are expected to lag a bit behind the US, probably by several weeks...

argh!

Just happy to get it:-)

Any word about how soon my FLGS will have a copy?


Roughly, books are expected to be arriving on doorsteps in the US "the last week in March". If a FLGS paid/pays for faster shipping, they may have it sooner, but that's roughly when you can expect it if they've already ordered it.


GM Rednal wrote:
Roughly, books are expected to be arriving on doorsteps in the US "the last week in March". If a FLGS paid/pays for faster shipping, they may have it sooner, but that's roughly when you can expect it if they've already ordered it.

Thanks. I was hoping that I could get it in time for my birthday, but I guess I'll have to wait just a little longer.


Don't suppose anyone at Paizo is willing to tell us how easy or hard (or even if possible) it will be to use this book in 2nd Edition


I can't speak for anyone at Paizo, but a good chunk of this book will be fairly easy to use in PF2E - converting monsters and effects should be fairly straightforward, at least. The class and feat options may take a little more work, depending on how PF2E is finalized.

(So, probably no harder than any other book that mixes creatures and player options.)


GM Rednal wrote:

I can't speak for anyone at Paizo, but a good chunk of this book will be fairly easy to use in PF2E - converting monsters and effects should be fairly straightforward, at least. The class and feat options may take a little more work, depending on how PF2E is finalized.

(So, probably no harder than any other book that mixes creatures and player options.)

As long as it's possible, that's good enough for me

Paizo Employee Creative Director

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GM Rednal wrote:

I can't speak for anyone at Paizo, but a good chunk of this book will be fairly easy to use in PF2E - converting monsters and effects should be fairly straightforward, at least. The class and feat options may take a little more work, depending on how PF2E is finalized.

(So, probably no harder than any other book that mixes creatures and player options.)

I wrote a large portion of this book, so I'm in the unique position of knowing about the book's contents and knowing about 2nd edition Pathfinder, and you are 100% spot on here. Converting monsters will be straightforward, class and feat options will take a little more work, and the LARGE amount of incredible and evocative story and flavor information is pretty much not only edition-neutral, but very inspiring and fun to read.


James Jacobs wrote:
GM Rednal wrote:

I can't speak for anyone at Paizo, but a good chunk of this book will be fairly easy to use in PF2E - converting monsters and effects should be fairly straightforward, at least. The class and feat options may take a little more work, depending on how PF2E is finalized.

(So, probably no harder than any other book that mixes creatures and player options.)

I wrote a large portion of this book, so I'm in the unique position of knowing about the book's contents and knowing about 2nd edition Pathfinder, and you are 100% spot on here. Converting monsters will be straightforward, class and feat options will take a little more work, and the LARGE amount of incredible and evocative story and flavor information is pretty much not only edition-neutral, but very inspiring and fun to read.

So Square Peg vs. Round hole but Doable if you have a hammer.

It's nice to have confirmation on that, it's something I've been trying to find out since 2nd got announced, and until now the closest answer I've gotten was that the Adventure Paths can be converted without too much trouble.

Thank you very much, for someone with a bunch of 3pp stuff it's kind of a relief to hear.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

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Not sure how the answer I just gave is any different than "the Adventure Paths can be converted without too much trouble," but I'm glad I was able to bring you relief anyway. ;-)


James Jacobs wrote:
Not sure how the answer I just gave is any different than "the Adventure Paths can be converted without too much trouble," but I'm glad I was able to bring you relief anyway. ;-)

you implied that converting the class options and feats would at least be possible. That's not something generally needed when converting an adventure path

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captain yesterday wrote:
I personally can't wait for this as I've never played or seen Call Of Cthulhu. :-)

I seriously doubt it will be an equivalent experience.


Anyone have a street date on this thing? It's been in release limbo for quite a while now.


On the 14th, they said books would be in the mail in "a week or two". *Checks watch* So, pretty much within the next week is likely. XD


Update: NA orders are now being processed. Shipments from their warehouse haven't started, but they should begin soon.


Damn, I'd forgotten I bought this thing ... what, last year?

*checks* Yep, last summer.

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Shadow Kosh wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I personally can't wait for this as I've never played or seen Call Of Cthulhu. :-)
I seriously doubt it will be an equivalent experience.

O hai Kthulhu, why new account? :)


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Shadow Kosh wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I personally can't wait for this as I've never played or seen Call Of Cthulhu. :-)
I seriously doubt it will be an equivalent experience.

Baby steps. First steps are dealing with the Mythos as a semi-superhero. Eventually you roll up a ream of investigators and watch 'em burn.


Man oh man I hope I can afford one of these in hard back when they hit the shelves. There are only four books on my wishlist and this is on the top.


Pre-Order is in! Hopefully they'll be in stock soon!


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Oh I can not wait to get the print version of this book. My backer's PDF is fine to get me going but I just like having something to hold so much better.

I've also begun work on a homebrew Mythos heavy setting. Ancient Greece as inspiration only replace Titans with Great Old Ones.

Spartans vs. Cthulhu


Greylurker wrote:

Oh I can not wait to get the print version of this book. My backer's PDF is fine to get me going but I just like having something to hold so much better.

I've also begun work on a homebrew Mythos heavy setting. Ancient Greece as inspiration only replace Titans with Great Old Ones.

Spartans vs. Cthulhu

Nice. Brutal, short, sounds like it should be fun. Stoicism vs the Mythos ...


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And order is placed.


The agony!

Liberty's Edge

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Any news on when this book hits the street?!


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Dryder wrote:
Any news on when this book hits the street?!

From a comment about address changes over on the Kickstarter, it sounds like it still hasn't even shipped to backers. I'd guess they're still packaging and labeling all the shipments and will take them all to USPS at once, but still... it leaves it in "unknown".

I wouldn't expect them to send a crate of books to Paizo until all the backers are covered, and then you've got Paizo's warehouse staff who have to bring that into inventory, then create our orders... on top of all their regular duties.

I'm guessing several weeks still, but that's just a guess.

Liberty's Edge

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Too bad!
Anyway, I really hope, once the book hits stores, a pdf will be available as well.


That seems to be the plan, yes - and really, it shouldn't be too much longer. XD Packaging does take time for a small team, though. The Kickstarter had over 2000 backers with a variety of pledge levels and add-ons. If it takes five minutes to handle one order - getting bubble wrap or other filler, verifying the contents are right right, retrieving add-ons for the order, finding the right box size, taping it up properly, attaching the shipping label, putting it with everything else to be shipped, et cetera, that's twelve orders an hour, or 96 orders for one person in a normal eight-hour workday. And that assumes they actually have eight hours every day and no other jobs or responsibilities that might interfere with the packing process.

I have absolutely no idea if that timetable is right, of course - point is, processing complex shipping orders for a couple thousand people takes more than one or two days, especially with a small team. XD Given when the last update was, though, it shouldn't take too much longer. A comment on Kickstarter suggested they're reaching the "may no longer be able to edit addresses" stage. So, preeeeeetty close.


Update today: All but 100 of the orders were packed and ready. By now, most or all of them should be done. The next stated step is for the courier to pick up the boxes (how many they can take in a day is entirely up to the end, and not something Petersen Games can control), but either way, shipments should begin *very* soon. ^^


GM Rednal wrote:
Update today: All but 100 of the orders were packed and ready. By now, most or all of them should be done. The next stated step is for the courier to pick up the boxes (how many they can take in a day is entirely up to the end, and not something Petersen Games can control), but either way, shipments should begin *very* soon. ^^

Good news. Any hopes for news on the shipments to my FLGS?


If your FLGS is in North America and already ordered the book, it's probably going out with all the other orders. It looks like they're trying to ship to everyone at once (or at least as fast as the courier can pick them up - I don't know if there's any kind of priority there, or if it's just "whatever they can fit and is closest").


Does that incluse the Backerkit preorders or only the original Kickstarter pledges?


That was not specifically addressed in the update, but I think any orders made before the Backerkit was locked down are heading out in this shipment. I could be wrong, though. XD


And there was much rejoicing.


Hopefully Paizo gets their truck of these soonTM so those of us who preordered this big bugger can get their grubby paws on it. Rawr.


I think the place Petersen Games is shipping from is actually pretty close to Paizo's HQ? So the shipment there probably won't take too long. XD


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Dryder wrote:
I really hope, once the book hits stores, a pdf will be available as well.

I am nearly certain that this is, indeed, the plan.


Hero lab files will apparently go live at the end of the month and Books they are a'coming.


They are indeed a'coming. New update (from the shipper) says that all orders for the US, Candada, and South America should be in the mail by the end of this week. Rest of the world to follow. This is assumed to include shipments to retailers, including Paizo and your FLGS. ^^ Tracking numbers - for those who should be getting them - ought to be arriving in your inboxes in the same timeframe.

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