Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Bestiary 6 (PFRPG)

If Titans could survive the other planes then they could survive realms of dreams and time.

Dragon,

Agreed. They can survive there, pretty much anywhere if they chose.

So Dream Gigas, Nightmare Gigas and Time Gigas would be neat.

Even if they're not in this book.

What is in this?! Oh right. Arshea. I'm pretty sure.

Who is Arshea?

Dragon,

Try this out!

It might clear things up for you.

Meh, I much rather have stats for Ragathiel, Black Butterfly, and Halcamora.

PannicAtack wrote:

I'm curious about how they're going to handle the Munavri. Are they going to be appearing as they do in Occult Bestiary and Darklands Revisited, or are they getting a nerf? Because as is, they're way too overpowered to be a PC race for any but the most generous GMs.

The munavri were never intended to be a common player race. They were designed to serve mainly as NPCS or as very rare characters for specific games (like those generous GMs). They are a 0-HD race more akin to svirfneblin or drow nobles in that sense.

Ahh, I see. Thank you!

Meh, I much rather have stats for Ragathiel, Black Butterfly, and Halcamora.

we could still have stats for them and Arshea.

What I would really like to know is if some of the Demon Lords and the Great Old Ones are making it into this book. But I'm sure it's to early for this kind of information... Hope if they do, none of them are reprints.

And also, as you might have noticed (I know it's really hard) I'm a really big fan of dragons, and I'm super curious about the ones in this book, as this is supposed to be the "legendary foes book".

I know everyone would like a bigger diversity, but I would be ok with a set of six dragons related to the prominent good and evil planes. Actually, I would be ok with anything if they are truly epic dragons. Maybe some of them could get CR above 21 at ancient age category, just saying... XD

Will we ever get more than five dragons in one book again? There is the Thaumaturgic sept that has eight breeds, so I always thought about this possibility.

There is the Thaumaturgic sept that has eight breeds, so I always thought about this possibility.

We've pretty much abandoned that initial set of alternate types of dragons that we tested in Dragons Revisited in favor of the direction we're going now: groupings of 5 along different lines and themes than what we tried out (and ultimately decided against) in that book.

I just like dragons. :p And you know Linnorms.

We've pretty much abandoned that initial set of alternate types of dragons that we tested in Dragons Revisited in favor of the direction we're going now: groupings of 5 along different lines and themes than what we tried out (and ultimately decided against) in that book.

Thanks for the answer James! I'm sure this will help us with or expectations about the 5 new dragons.

I just like dragons. :p And you know Linnorms.

I'm a bit surprised with that, Thomas. XD

But Linnorms are dragons, so you just like them double as much;)

Something like that Dragon, yes.

Gold, some how I'm sensing sarcasm...

Dragon78 wrote:

Meh, I much rather have stats for Ragathiel, Black Butterfly, and Halcamora.

We could still have stats for them and Arshea.

While I agree with Ragathiel and Black Butterfly I still think Arshea should be included. Seven high praises to the spirit of abandon! :D

The Gold Sovereign wrote:

There is the Thaumaturgic sept that has eight breeds, so I always thought about this possibility.

We've pretty much abandoned that initial set of alternate types of dragons that we tested in Dragons Revisited in favor of the direction we're going now: groupings of 5 along different lines and themes than what we tried out (and ultimately decided against) in that book.

Hmmm...sooo...there's going to be five new Dragons and their going to be OUTER plane-based. Also I seem to remember seeing the words "virtuous" and "heavenly" in the book's description of the new dragons (although it could have just been my imagination). So, maybe Dragons based on Elysium, Heaven, Nirvana, the Boneyard, and Axis then?

Perfect candidate for pocket edition! I'd buy both, I like the hardcovers for display and long term and the pocket edition for transport.

Hmmm...sooo...there's going to be five new Dragons and their going to be OUTER plane-based. Also I seem to remember seeing the words "virtuous" and "heavenly" in the book's description of the new dragons (although it could have just been my imagination). So, maybe Dragons based on Elysium, Heaven, Nirvana, the Boneyard, and Axis then?

At first I thought about the same breeds, but than I realized - with Dragon78's help - that would make to many good aligned dragons, don't you think so?

Wouldn't it be better to have the "virtue" (NG) and "sin" (NE) dragons, representing the celestial and the fiendish planes, and than three other representing the Maelstrom (CN), the Boneyard (N) and Axis (LN)?

That would make a perfect set of five neutral dragons, that could go with any setting and affairs related to the outer planes.

That is the set up for them I am hoping for, but who knows what they will be like in the actual book.

What creatures will be in B6(currently, final product may vary).

5 True Dragons
3 Kaiju
8 Archdevils
4 Horsemen
? Empyreal Lords
Naiad
Rougarou
Monkey Goblin
Yadithian
Munavri
Wild Hunt
Green Man
Two-headed Dragon
Krampus
Conqueror Worm
Living Statue Haunted by a Dead God
Goblin Troops
Entothrope
Hivemind Swarm
Animal Companions
Dinosaurs
Proteans
Qlippoths
Psychicpomps
Celestials
Giants(Shadow, Tomb, +2 more)
Golems

What we know will not be in B6(currently, final product may vary).
Gigas
Aeons
Inevitables
Oni
Kami
Asura
Rakshasas
Elementals
Ogres
Trolls
Giant Roachs
Robots
Cyclopes

So I've got a good chance at Linnorms then?!

Until someone working on the book says "no", there is a chance.

Thomas...we're going to hold an intervention one day about this bizarre linnorm obsession...;) :D

Berselius,

Only after you get me to have a paladin/CE cleric of Orcus interventions.

Trust me Thomas when I say...plans are being formed. :P

Other then the possibility of linnorms what are you most excited about?

....what about Tane ?

So, maybe Dragons based on Elysium, Heaven, Nirvana, the Boneyard, and Axis then?

Ooh, an (undead-eating?) Boneyard dragon and / or (clockwork?) Axis dragon sound particularly fun.

A (protean-ish) Maelstrom dragon also could be fun.

I'm all for Boneyard/Purgatory Dragon.

Nighttree,

I think we've run out of Tane...

I'm all for Boneyard/Purgatory Dragon.

Nighttree,

I think we've run out of Tane...

I thought only two had been done so far ???

Thomas Seitz wrote:

I'm all for Boneyard/Purgatory Dragon.

Nighttree,

I think we've run out of Tane...

I thought only two had been done so far ???

Aren't there at least five?

Don't have my books but, there's the Jabberwocky, Jubjub Bird, Bandersnatch, that weird tree thing and the magenta-scaled, fire-breathing bear with a serpent for a tail thing.

Or maybe I've got that wrong...

Kalindlara - HELP!
(Please and thank you.)
<edit> Found the info! So no worries.^^

<shrug>

--C.

<edit> There have been five statted out in the bestiaries, as mentioned above. The tree-thing is the Sard & the bear-thing is the Thrasfyr!
:o
;p

<edit-edit>Ninja'ed (below, while I was editing my post)!
Thank you Kalindlara! (^_')=b

I believe there are, indeed, five - including the three Psiphyre named, as well as the Sard (the Witch-tree, Storm of Insanities) and the Thrasfyr (the Dreaming Hill of the Dark/magenta bear). ^_^

I'm all for Boneyard/Purgatory Dragon.

Nighttree,

I think we've run out of Tane...

Ok, so you wish for more environment/elemental gigas, for more dragons, for more linnorms (there are like 10.000 of each of those already) and you think Thane (which only have 5 members so far) are overdone and worked out?

I hope this bestiary is covered with Thanes, I love them.

Interestingly, in Kingmaker, Thrasfyr is described as "a mountainous mass of hooks, barbs, and iron". Kind of wonder what happened with the art.

Kingmaker also notes that "no one beyond the Eldest knows just how many of the Tane still breathe within their hidden barracks". So more are always a possibility. ^_^

It has been a while sine we have gotten any new tane.

5 Outer plane based Dragons could be called.

NG- Holy, Celestial, Heavenly, Elysium
NE- Dark, Unholy, Fiendish, Abyssal, Hellish
CN- Chaos, Maelstrom, Protean, Discord
LN- Axiom, Law, Axis, Axiomatic
N- Boneyard, Cosmic, Balance, purgatory

NG- Can be found in any good aligned plane. Has glowing white body, feathery wings, and a holy based breath weapon
NE- Can be found in any evil aligned plane. Has red and black body, shadowy black wings, and a unholy based breath weapon.
CN- Dragon from the maelstrom. Can vary in color, has one bat wing and one feathered wing, and breath weapon does chaos damage or random energy damage.
LN- Dragon from Axis. Has a metallic coloration, sleek with no marks or visible scales, maybe some clockwork traits, and breath weapon does law based damage.
N*- Dragon from the Boneyard or any neutral plane. Skeletal appearance, eats undead, evil spirits, and outsiders that feed on mortal souls.

+If the dragons weren't outer planes only I would have loved a positive energy plane(quintessence) based dragon for N alignment.

I haven't used the Tane I already got! :p At least with the dragons I've used probably close to 50%.

Maybe Cheshire, the W. Bunny or the B. Rabbit could turn into nice Tanes, but I don't think these two or any other creature would be as impressive as the Tanes we already have...

We might get something about them in the First World Campaign Setting.

Well when I asked James Jacobs if any of the following creatures(Cheshire Cat, Nekomata, or Bakeneko) are going to be in B6, he said "one".

I'm betting on the Nekomata, Dragon.

Well I hope to see a very evil Nekomata, but probably we get a very gentle agathion Bakeneko. I wouldn't like that, good monsters are a waste.

Well I hope to see a very evil Nekomata, but probably we get a very gentle agathion Bakeneko. I wouldn't like that, good monsters are a waste.

We've already got a cat agathion so hopefully it wont be a good outsider.

I am hoping more for a CN alignment for any of them really.

I am hoping more for a CN alignment for any of them really.

More chaotic and lawful critters would be cool, outsider or not. They can serve as adversaries or allies, depending on the story, making them more versatile than evil or good creatures, and yet some of them, like inevitables, are, IMO, deadly dull.

More proteans, or axiomites, or formians, or different sorts of lawful or chaotic creatures, would be cool, as well.

Nekomata cant be good or neutral, they summon undead, which are always evil. I hope they have nine lives they can also use to ressurect allies, and like the julajimus from d&d I hope they shapeshift into cute kitten forms to create a false sense of security in their mostly young prey. Cheshire cat n my opinion is already in bestiary 2

But turning the nekomata into a catfolk oni isnt a bad idea either. Im not a fan of the name bakeneko, so I hope they go for nekomata and its big fiery brother the Kasha

And seeing the new miniatures preview... Too bad the Shadow Giant (from inner sea bestiary) made it in bestiary 6, id rather hoped on no more monsters from that book spare for maybe whirlmaws...

Well, nogitsune are already detailed as kitsune possessed/fused with an oni, so maybe bakeneko and nekomata can share a similar relationship?

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And yeah, I definitely want a scene with angels and psychopomps escort guarding along the River of Souls, when a platoon of astradaemons attack... only for a styx linnorm to decloak and take on everyone.

And than the styx linnorm is eaten by Nhimbaloth... :O

Talking about mythos, we already have and idea of which of the Great Old Ones are making their debut in Strange Aeon, at least four of them (two already made it, one was confirmed, and the other is pretty much supported by the plot - no names, no spoilers).

Are any o them in the Bestiary 6? I would love to see stats for Mhar, Orgesh and Yig.

Not all nekomata have the power to animate dead. In fact many abilities that bakeneko and nekomata have vary from region to region. So depending on wich version they use will decide what their alinment will be.

We are getting more proteans but it is unknown if there will be more formians in this one. I would be surprised if they make new types of axiomites.

I would prefer nekomata being it's own creature but making the bakeneko the oni version of catfolk would be interesting. But we already know there will be no oni in B6.

I have not heard any info stating that any great old ones will be in B6. But if anyone has heard differently say so.

I want linnorms! :p ;)

Btw where did it say that Shadow Giants got in?