Alchemaic |
Weird, I could have sworn the description used to have a line about "making pacts with otherworldly powers", which could have meant Harrow Medium or something similar. But now it sounds like it's just going to include some legendary spirits for the other Medium. That's disappointing.
Alchemaic |
Alchemiac,
I'm sure they'll figure something to make a Harrow Medium come to life down the road. This is more for Horror than Harrow.
Maybe, although it does already exist and it's just locked up in a cupboard someplace. I'm just pointing out that the description seems to have changed which severely dropped my enthusiasm.
Mark Seifter Designer |
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Thomas Seitz wrote:Maybe, although it does already exist and it's just locked up in a cupboard someplace. I'm just pointing out that the description seems to have changed which severely dropped my enthusiasm.Alchemiac,
I'm sure they'll figure something to make a Harrow Medium come to life down the road. This is more for Horror than Harrow.
While I'm just as excited as you to see my little Harrow medium show up some day, I can pretty much guarantee it won't be in a Player Companion, simply due to its length compared to the length of a Player Companion.
Alchemaic |
Alchemaic wrote:While I'm just as excited as you to see my little Harrow medium show up some day, I can pretty much guarantee it won't be in a Player Companion, simply due to its length compared to the length of a Player Companion.Thomas Seitz wrote:Maybe, although it does already exist and it's just locked up in a cupboard someplace. I'm just pointing out that the description seems to have changed which severely dropped my enthusiasm.Alchemiac,
I'm sure they'll figure something to make a Harrow Medium come to life down the road. This is more for Horror than Harrow.
I'm just saying it could be the *entire* Companion book, maybe add some archetypes for Occultist and Witch and Bard or something. That would be super hype.
Seventh Seal |
Mark Seifter wrote:I'm just saying it could be the *entire* Companion book, maybe add some archetypes for Occultist and Witch and Bard or something. That would be super hype.Alchemaic wrote:While I'm just as excited as you to see my little Harrow medium show up some day, I can pretty much guarantee it won't be in a Player Companion, simply due to its length compared to the length of a Player Companion.Thomas Seitz wrote:Maybe, although it does already exist and it's just locked up in a cupboard someplace. I'm just pointing out that the description seems to have changed which severely dropped my enthusiasm.Alchemiac,
I'm sure they'll figure something to make a Harrow Medium come to life down the road. This is more for Horror than Harrow.
Well... I think Mark has mentioned before that the Player Companion line of books do not have enough pages to hold his Harrow Medium.
So, if the Harrow medium itself won't fit, I doubt there would be any room to include some archetypes, too. At least, not in the same book.Of course, things might've changed since then. OR I am misremembering. :p
It would be AWESOME to see the Harrow Medium sometime in the future...
<sigh>
Mark Seifter Designer |
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Alchemaic wrote:Mark Seifter wrote:I'm just saying it could be the *entire* Companion book, maybe add some archetypes for Occultist and Witch and Bard or something. That would be super hype.Alchemaic wrote:While I'm just as excited as you to see my little Harrow medium show up some day, I can pretty much guarantee it won't be in a Player Companion, simply due to its length compared to the length of a Player Companion.Thomas Seitz wrote:Maybe, although it does already exist and it's just locked up in a cupboard someplace. I'm just pointing out that the description seems to have changed which severely dropped my enthusiasm.Alchemiac,
I'm sure they'll figure something to make a Harrow Medium come to life down the road. This is more for Horror than Harrow.
Well... I think Mark has mentioned before that the Player Companion line of books do not have enough pages to hold his Harrow Medium.
So, if the Harrow medium itself won't fit, I doubt there would be any room to include some archetypes, too. At least, not in the same book.Of course, things might've changed since then. OR I am misremembering. :p
It would be AWESOME to see the Harrow Medium sometime in the future...
<sigh>
I'd like to avoid derailing this thread about Harrowed medium if possible, so maybe start a new thread elsewhere? As a final tidbit, perhaps a worthy one for a starting post in that new thread, someone asked in an AMA for the Paizo GenCon Industry Insiders "Harrow Medium when?" And Wes Schneider (arguably one of the most influential people at the company in deciding what the answer to that question will be) responded "Any time now." Admittedly, that was news to me when he said it, as last I heard from within the company, it was still not a sure thing and was unlikely to be soon even if so. Let's continue discussion of Harrowed medium in another thread so this one can focus on Haunted Heroes Handbook.
Feros |
I'd like to avoid derailing this thread about Harrowed medium if possible, so maybe start a new thread elsewhere? As a final tidbit, perhaps a worthy one for a starting post in that new thread, someone asked in an AMA for the Paizo GenCon Industry Insiders "Harrow Medium when?" And Wes Schneider (arguably one of the most influential people at the company in deciding what the answer to that question will be) responded "Any time now." Admittedly, that was news to me when he said it, as last I heard from within the company, it was still not a sure thing and was unlikely to be soon even if so. Let's continue discussion of Harrowed medium in another thread so this one can focus on Haunted Heroes...
Started HERE.
Owen K. C. Stephens Developer, Starfinder Team |
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Thomas Seitz wrote:Maybe, although it does already exist and it's just locked up in a cupboard someplace. I'm just pointing out that the description seems to have changed which severely dropped my enthusiasm.Alchemiac,
I'm sure they'll figure something to make a Harrow Medium come to life down the road. This is more for Horror than Harrow.
The Harrow medium was never slated for this book. Sorry to disappoint.
Owen K. C. Stephens Developer, Starfinder Team |
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Will this book replace the Horror Origins companion?
Certain this is a soft tie-in to Horror Adventures. I personally see the Origins books as ways to give context to new classes, or new rulesets that have that broad an impact (like mythic), for which it may not be obvious how they tie in to Golarion. For the most part, I think the context of horror-themed things in Golarion is pretty intuitive.
Alchemaic |
Getting back to this book, what archetypes ARE there going to be? Obviously Medium/Spiritualist stuff, but is that all we can expect for "being haunted by spirits"? Like a Brawler who channels ghosts to get his feats and can risk influence to get more might be cool.
ShepherdGunn |
Alchemaic wrote:While I'm just as excited as you to see my little Harrow medium show up some day, I can pretty much guarantee it won't be in a Player Companion, simply due to its length compared to the length of a Player Companion.Thomas Seitz wrote:Maybe, although it does already exist and it's just locked up in a cupboard someplace. I'm just pointing out that the description seems to have changed which severely dropped my enthusiasm.Alchemiac,
I'm sure they'll figure something to make a Harrow Medium come to life down the road. This is more for Horror than Harrow.
I am very interested in this book. I've started implementing both Ultimate Intrigue and the new Horror book into my campaign. I want to see what this book has to offer, and if I can apply it to the game I'm currently running.
In a city where assassination is common, there are bound to be a number of people haunted by their past.
Also, I am really interested in the Harrow Medium. Is there any chance that it could get it's own book, like an expanded Harrow Player's Companion.
Fourshadow |
It should be coming within the next week or 10 days, right? Or has the Con delayed shipping?
This one is a bit more vague in its final description, so I am a little more eager for my PDF as I have a little less idea of what to expect... But hey, the Companion line products have been dynamite lately, so that's another reason I am eager.
Pyromancer999 |
Also, I am really interested in the Harrow Medium. Is there any chance that it could get it's own book, like an expanded Harrow Player's Companion.
This conversation has its own thread to avoid de-railing, as can be seen and linked to in the quotes below.
Mark Seifter wrote:I'd like to avoid derailing this thread about Harrowed medium if possible, so maybe start a new thread elsewhere? As a final tidbit, perhaps a worthy one for a starting post in that new thread, someone asked in an AMA for the Paizo GenCon Industry Insiders "Harrow Medium when?" And Wes Schneider (arguably one of the most influential people at the company in deciding what the answer to that question will be) responded "Any time now." Admittedly, that was news to me when he said it, as last I heard from within the company, it was still not a sure thing and was unlikely to be soon even if so. Let's continue discussion of Harrowed medium in another thread so this one can focus on Haunted Heroes...Started HERE.
Long story short, Mark doesn't know when the Harrow Medium will be released, but it will not be as part of its own player companion due to extreme length, as Player Companions will not exceed 32 pages.
He has considered it possible that it could be part of a future Campaign Setting release, but that is more conjecture than anything substantiated, as he has said that when and where it will be released is not entirely up to him.
Luthorne |
To each their own. Personally, I will never play a cleric or paladin, so I'd much rather see material for psychics and spiritualists and other such. So, in the interest of meeting the needs of multiple customers with diverse interest, let's hope that Paizo has us both covered, no?
John Kretzer |
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So I have a witch who is haunted by her dead twin sister...I always left it kinda vague on rather she is actually haunted or just really insane. Mostly because there really no mechanics for a witch to cover it.
So I am wondering if there will be a feat or something (not a archetype...the character all ready has one) that could be used for this?
DM Beckett |
To each their own. Personally, I will never play a cleric or paladin, so I'd much rather see material for psychics and spiritualists and other such. So, in the interest of meeting the needs of multiple customers with diverse interest, let's hope that Paizo has us both covered, no?
I just mean I don't really care if they have some psychic material in there, I'd just personally much rather see some cool and fun divine options for a change. Ideally there would be a lot of things in there that does not have any sort of class-based prereqs, or if it does, it's vague such as the ability to cast Protection from Evil/Magic Circle vs Evil or Speak with Dead, (which would cover Clerics, Mediums, Spiritualists, and partially Witches).
ErisAcolyte-Chaos jester |
So I have a witch who is haunted by her dead twin sister...I always left it kinda vague on rather she is actually haunted or just really insane. Mostly because there really no mechanics for a witch to cover it.
So I am wondering if there will be a feat or something (not a archetype...the character all ready has one) that could be used for this?
I imagine there might be one in this book. on the other hand, i imagine it could be possible to have that kind of situation to be portrayed through the haunting curse(with some slight tweaks to tailor it to fit), or through possession corruption(again with some minor tweaks). Fingers crossed on there being a feat or something to cover that, but this is just my 2sp on the subject.
John Kretzer |
John Kretzer wrote:I imagine there might be one in this book. on the other hand, i imagine it could be possible to have that kind of situation to be portrayed through the haunting curse(with some slight tweaks to tailor it to fit), or through possession corruption(again with some minor tweaks). Fingers crossed on there being a feat or something to cover that, but this is just my 2sp on the subject.So I have a witch who is haunted by her dead twin sister...I always left it kinda vague on rather she is actually haunted or just really insane. Mostly because there really no mechanics for a witch to cover it.
So I am wondering if there will be a feat or something (not a archetype...the character all ready has one) that could be used for this?
Yeah the Oracle curse haunted would be good but the character is a witch.
The possession corruption would not make sense as it is a beneficial haunting. Her twin sister would want to protect her.
Ideal would a feat that gives a character a former of share consciousness from the Spiritualist class.
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If any subscribers want to spoil the archetypes, it'd be much appreciated!
Anybody have this yet? Anything cool in here? Any kind of details would be great.
DETAILS: Cool people wrote cool stuff for this Cool Player Companion. My crystal ball says that I might have had a hand in it....
B-)