Letters from the Flaming Crab: Hygiene (PFRPG) PDF

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Letters from the Flaming Crab is a monthly series of Pathfinder-compatible supplements. Each Letter focuses on exploring a different topic to give gamemasters and players new, exciting options that can be dropped into any campaign.

In the days of old, the public bathhouse was as much of a social center as any tavern. So why not mix things up and start your adventure somewhere a little more clean? Sure, the half-orc may object to soapy water (after all, he'd get a -2 penalty on Diplomacy checks against his own people for being dishonorably cleansed of his enemy's blood), but I'm sure the elf noble wouldn't object to spending time in a more refined and relaxing establishment.

Within Hygiene, we cover both the effects of neglecting cleanliness and places where you can scrub after delving in a mucky dungeon! Included are maps for each of the 6 locations inside, including 3 bathhouses (Japanese, Roman, meditative), a barber shop, laundry pools, and a salon.

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An Endzeitgeist.com review of the revised version

5/5

This installment of Flaming Crab Games' delightfully oddball Letters-series clocks in at 28 pages, 1 page front cover, 1 page editorial, 2 pages of SRD, leaving us with 24 pages of content, so let's take a look!

As always, we begin this installment with a nice letter from the planeshopping vessel, thankfully salvaged for our collective delights by J Gray.

Now we've all been there: The PCs have just battled through a horde of foes, are covered in blood and guts...and then, they walk into a tavern. As if that does not look weird. And no one cares. We begin this pdf thus, appropriately, with a nice and handy table pertaining social modifiers - these can be added or subtracted, depending on the context, from the respective social skills: A foppish Taldan dandy may indeed consider someone covered in gold dust to warrant +4...while the savage orc chieftain will be more inclined to hand an asswhooping to the pansy that came before him thus clad. This includes filth/bathed-status and perfumes, including race-specific ones as well as notes on hair/beard-care or the status of one's teeth...which were notoriously problematic before the advent of modern dentistry.

And indeed, hygiene may influence a lot: Disguises that do not correspond to expected hygiene levels may suffer from a penalty; whether fleas or bedbugs, lack of cleanliness may net you itching, annoying parasites. (Yep, provided as a nice infestation) and concise and simple dental cavity rules allow you to track bad breath et al. Similarly, a handy table pertaining body odor and how easily you may be tacked via scent etc. can be found. And yes, you may actually develop a disgusting stench aura!

Now, the medieval period had a significantly different concept pertaining hygiene than we do: Performing the act of love on piles of mist was not uncommon - the offal and straw kept heat pretty well. Similarly, throwing the bedpan on the streets was pretty much common practice prior to the advent of proper sewer systems. At the same time, though, this time wasn't as filthy (or prude!) as you'd imagine - in Nuremberg, for example, the existence of bath houses is well-documented. They were a space for citizens to relax, consume food...and yes, also indulge in more carnal activities, much to the chagrin of many a hardliner or prude. The exact structure and conventions of places related to bathing differ wildly amid cultures - and thus, much to my delight, we receive several fully mapped bathhouses: The Ishiyu Onsen hot spring with a feudal, Japanese touch; the quasi Greco-Roman Thermae of Pulsatilla and the White Blossom Bathhouse, which should make fans of WuXia or European bath culture both happy - the respective entries also feature notes on nomenclature, showing that the team did the research. Nice!

Obviously, though, hygiene on the road would be a slightly more difficult subject matter - and here, we receive the also fully mapped cascade pools, which may draw washers (or make for a phenomenal boss-fight arena). A barber shop and a salon further complement the ready to drop in locales (again, mapped) that are depicted within, all with adventure hooks...though frankly, I would have enjoyed an acknowledgment of barbers doubling as physicians and the type of "healing" they provided.

The pdf does provide concise lists of the services offered, all collected on one page in a handy GM cheat-sheet and similarly features a neat selection of associated mundane items - from the collapsible bathtub to alum, an oil that prevents you best suit from being spattered in blood and guts, shaving kits...and for the more magically-inclined actually working hair-growth tonics are included. And yes, singed hair may be regrown as well...and a collective sigh of relief went through the dwarven population...

Conclusion:
Editing and formatting are very good, I noticed no grievous glitches. Layout adheres to Flaming Crab Games' two-column full-color standard and the pdf comes fully bookmarked for your convenience. Artwork is a mix of b/w-art and stock and manages to generate a concise visual identity. The maps provided for the locations are generally minimalistic and b/w with blue and green highlights - amazing, btw.: Flaming Crab Games listened - now, we get scales for the maps and the pdf also features player-friendly maps for each of the locations! Kudos for improving the book in this crucial way!! (Seriously, the cascades alone make for such a cool arena...)
Lukas Buergi's installment on hygiene can be a godsend for intrigue-heavy campaigns, particularly those favoring a simulationalist approach...like mine do. Personally, I enjoy this VERY much.
The component of magic in such a context deserved a bit more coverage in my opinion: While prestidigitation and the like are acknowledged and talked about, I wished that this took the fantastic angle up a slight notch. While I adore the sample bathhouses included, general toolkits for the design and development of hygiene traditions would have made more sense to me - you know, sand baths, cleaning by fire for fire resistant beings...the like. The bathhouses can be used once...a general toolkit could be used all the time. Similarly, suggestions for culturally specific social modifiers based on hygiene or uniquely elven/dwarven/weirdo race xyz-suggestions for traditions would have elevated this further.

The pdf, as a whole, is a more than fairly-priced, evocative file and deserves being bought, even if it does not reach the level of depth and coverage that the coin-installment offered. In the end, this is pretty much a good buy and should be considered, particularly in light of the topic not nearly being covered in its totality - and weird little books like this require and deserve support! With the integration and improvement of the maps, the book offers now some seriously fun set-pieces for a more than fair price-point, though - which is why my verdict for the revised version is upgraded to 5 stars, just short of my seal of approval.

Endzeitgeist out.


Squeaky Clean Fun!

5/5

This is the first time I've checked out a letter from the flaming crab, so I'm going to be looking at this as something to enrich a game world that deals with these things. It's a topic I haven't expected to see covered like this, but that's what makes this line stand out.

What I liked

-While the intro letter is a bit hard to read due to the background, it does give us a nice and flavorful opening to this book.

-I appreciate the mutable nature of the social modifier chart, making it pretty useful and fun for its intended purpose.

-The body odor and scent chart was another fun and flavorful addition to help nail down just how important hygiene can be to an adventurer.

-There's maps of the locations. I have to admit, I skipped ahead to find out if there would be, I'm a stickler for having maps for locations given layouts, and there is. Touche, FC. I was not expecting maps after the last few products I read. They're bare bones, but they're there, which is all I really want.

-I appreciated the sidebar about words and their meaning, it help keep things authentic while still keeping me in the loop on the terminology being used.

-The high fantasy tweaks for Thermae of Pulsatilla were a very nice touch, they're small things but they really help give the situation a more vibrant feel for a setting that allows such things.

-Really the Thermae of Pulsatilla has been just very interesting thus far, a location that I could see throwing into a lot of games.

-Small point, but I enjoy the large amount of relevant female NPCs here. It's a minor plus, but a plus none the less.

-The A Cut Above barber shop is a fun location, and the adventure hooks are interesting, having more adventure flavor than the rest of the locations.

-Props for including feminine hygiene products, wasn't expecting it but it's appreciated when the vibe is hygiene.

What I disliked

-I really feel like the white blossom bathhouse could have received more detail, as it feels lacking compared to the previous two.

-Only some of the NPCs have alignments listed, which is something that I would have liked to see for all of them.

-It's clear that certain sections are written by different people, as there feels like different ideas are used for each section (some have adventure hooks, some have notable NPCs, etc), which can be jarring if one particularly likes one of those things and doesn't see it done in each section.

-There could have been more magic items, as there was only 1 here that wasn't particularly impactful.

Final Thoughts
As a whole I liked this book even if it felt disjointed at parts. It's the kind of thing that I could easily see throwing into my game to give players a chance to add a bit more verisimilitude into our games about hygiene and cleanliness. I'd probably give this a 4.5, but for the sake of this review and a few points that I particularly liked in here (mostly the small points I mentioned), I'm going to give this a 5 star review. I think a lot of the ideas here are going to help give people a much needed reason to include new concepts into their game, and to me, I feel like that's the goal of this line.


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Now available—and the first ten posters get a free PDF copy, courtesy of Flaming Crab Games!

Silver Crusade

Yo, I'm up for that.


I'm up for a free copy.


Sounds good to me :)


Whoop whoop!

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2008 Top 16, 2010 Top 4

Here, please.


This sounds different and very interesting. If they're still letting people have free copies I'd like to see one.

Liberty's Edge

Quite interested in a free copy too :-)


I would like one.

Scarab Sages

I demand the return of the Barber class from AL-QADIM!


Yay!


I'm Hiding In Your Closet wrote:
I demand the return of the Barber class from AL-QADIM!

No class options this time, but I'd like that too.


Wow, those went fast!

We hope y'all love Hygiene as much as we do! Please consider writing a review! Not only does it inform our customers, it helps us grow and learn as a company!

I'm Hiding In Your Closet wrote:
I demand the return of the Barber class from AL-QADIM!

I'm afraid we don't have anything of the sort. But that's definitely something to consider if we do a Part 2 to Hygiene!


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I've been kind of away from the product discussion forums due to Starfinder and moving my buying habits from Paizo to DrivethruRPG for reviewing purposes so I missed it. Fortunately I bought it already, because I saw this and some thing about playing as a magic item, both subjects being so out there that I needed to take a look. Review is pending but its kind of far down. I have a list and I'm not going through it fast enough.


Malwing wrote:
I've been kind of away from the product discussion forums due to Starfinder and moving my buying habits from Paizo to DrivethruRPG for reviewing purposes so I missed it. Fortunately I bought it already, because I saw this and some thing about playing as a magic item, both subjects being so out there that I needed to take a look. Review is pending but its kind of far down. I have a list and I'm not going through it fast enough.

Playing as a magic item?? That is really out there!

Thanks in advance for the review, but no rush at all!


Flaming Crab Games wrote:
Malwing wrote:
I've been kind of away from the product discussion forums due to Starfinder and moving my buying habits from Paizo to DrivethruRPG for reviewing purposes so I missed it. Fortunately I bought it already, because I saw this and some thing about playing as a magic item, both subjects being so out there that I needed to take a look. Review is pending but its kind of far down. I have a list and I'm not going through it fast enough.

Playing as a magic item?? That is really out there!

Thanks in advance for the review, but no rush at all!

Living Items

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PDFs granted—please enjoy, and I'm sure the publisher would appreciate a review!

Liberty's Edge

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Thank you very much. Good solid product even if I would have done some things differently. Great locations. Interesting equipment though I would have liked more magic items or maybe some spells. I will write a more detailed review when I get some free time


Looking forward to it, Raven Black!

Silver Crusade

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And reviewed. As stated, there were a few hiccups in it, but the vibe was there and there was just a few things in there that managed to make me smile that I wasn't expecting, helping bump my rating up. Chill book, definitely the kind of thing I could see throwing into a game to make hygiene an actually interesting part of a game.


Okay, I can die happy now that you said such nice things (or maybe I'll rather live happy).

Silver Crusade

Bardess wrote:
Okay, I can die happy now that you said such nice things (or maybe I'll rather live happy).

I'd say the book accomplished something that I've seen is a prerequisite of a good book moreso now than ever: It was a fun read. If a product reads well, it garners a lot of good will. It's not a mechanics heavy book, but the places where there are mechanics are well done and enjoyable. To me, I see this as a very nice 'GM's side pocket' kind of book, the kind of thing that will be used every so often, but to great effect. It'd have been a full recommendation if things were more uniform, but when you have 3 writers working on something, there's going to be differences, and I can appreciate that.


I take full credit on the differences between the various location write-ups. I could have done a little jiggering to make them more uniform but felt, at the time, that letting each writer's style shine through more. So, in that, I blame myself as editor. The writers did a great job. :)

Thanks for the review, N. It was well thought out and good feedback.

I feel I should say for the record that N Jolly has been hired to write on another entry of Letters from the Flaming Crab (our County Faire book) but did not work on Hygiene. I don't believe this influenced his review.


Reviewed first on endzeitgeist.com, then submitted to Nerdtrek and GMS magazine and posted here, on OBS, etc.


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Updated my review in all the usual places to reflect the changes made.


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Endzeitgeist wrote:
Updated my review in all the usual places to reflect the changes made.

Thanks for the suggestions in your first review, and thanks for updating your review!

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