paizo.com Recent Posts in Pathfinder Player Companion: Black Markets (PFRPG) Discussionpaizo.com Recent Posts in Pathfinder Player Companion: Black Markets (PFRPG) Discussion2023-10-02T01:11:09Z2023-10-02T01:11:09ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Player Companion: Black Markets (PFRPG)Shadow_Charlatanhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9h7x/discuss&page=4?Pathfinder-Player-Companion-Black-Markets#1552016-11-07T21:05:36Z2016-11-07T21:05:36Z<p>Does the ring from the Talisman of Scrying count against other rings worn ?</p>
<p>can more than one Talisman be linked to the same ring ?</p>Does the ring from the Talisman of Scrying count against other rings worn ?
can more than one Talisman be linked to the same ring ?Shadow_Charlatan2016-11-07T21:05:36ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Player Companion: Black Markets (PFRPG)Marco Massoudihttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9h7x/discuss&page=4?Pathfinder-Player-Companion-Black-Markets#1542016-09-20T03:51:03Z2016-09-20T03:51:03Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Ed Reppert wrote:</div><blockquote> I've never liked that rule. It just negates the requirement to use magic to create magic items. Makes no sense to me, save as a sop to players who want things to be easy. </blockquote><p>I absolutely agree.
<p>With buying or crafting magic items that give you +X on spellcraft, everyone can craft any wondrous item without a chance for failure.</p>
<p>That and the fact that you can make what you can use best for half-price, have ruined the wonder of finding magical items.</p>
<p>I consider the magic item creation rules "broken" and either switch to "automatic bonus progression" or donĀ“t allow the rules at all nowadays.</p>Ed Reppert wrote:I've never liked that rule. It just negates the requirement to use magic to create magic items. Makes no sense to me, save as a sop to players who want things to be easy.
I absolutely agree. With buying or crafting magic items that give you +X on spellcraft, everyone can craft any wondrous item without a chance for failure.
That and the fact that you can make what you can use best for half-price, have ruined the wonder of finding magical items.
I consider the magic item...Marco Massoudi2016-09-20T03:51:03ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Player Companion: Black Markets (PFRPG)Ed Repperthttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9h7x/discuss&page=4?Pathfinder-Player-Companion-Black-Markets#1532016-09-20T01:34:13Z2016-09-20T01:34:13Z<p>I've never liked that rule. It just negates the requirement to use magic to create magic items. Makes no sense to me, save as a sop to players who want things to be easy.</p>I've never liked that rule. It just negates the requirement to use magic to create magic items. Makes no sense to me, save as a sop to players who want things to be easy.Ed Reppert2016-09-20T01:34:13ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Player Companion: Black Markets (PFRPG)Plausible Pseudonymhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9h7x/discuss&page=4?Pathfinder-Player-Companion-Black-Markets#1522016-09-19T23:10:58Z2016-09-19T23:09:17Z<p>Any crafter can add +5 to the DC for every missing spell prerequisite. You're not prevented from trying if you can't cast all the "required" spells.</p>Any crafter can add +5 to the DC for every missing spell prerequisite. You're not prevented from trying if you can't cast all the "required" spells.Plausible Pseudonym2016-09-19T23:09:17ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Player Companion: Black Markets (PFRPG)Urath DM (alias of Mark Greene)https://paizo.com/products/btpy9h7x/discuss&page=4?Pathfinder-Player-Companion-Black-Markets#1512016-09-19T20:30:12Z2016-09-19T20:30:12Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">patternscribe wrote:</div><blockquote><p> I've searched through the posts here, and have done a bit of searching online, but I still need help understanding one of the Bard Archetype: Hoaxer class skills.</p>
<p>At 5th level you gain Curse Crafter (Ex) which replaces Lore Master. If you look up the rules for crafting cursed items found elsewhere in the product you find "Intentionally crafting cursed items requires the same item creation feats and skill checks as does crafting a normal item of that type, but in addition to such requirements, intentionally cursed items require <i>bestow curse or major curse</i> as a spell prerequisites." (emphasis mine)</p>
<p>As a bard, you never gain direct access to •either• of those spells. So my question becomes, does this ability grant the hoaxer the ability to fulfill that requirement innately as part of its design (can cast the spell as if learned, but only in conjunction with crafting an item) mediated by the hoaxer bard level (determining which version of the spell could be used)? Or does it mean that unless you find someway of acquiring those spells, you will never be able to do more than craft the faux magic items(an awesome ability but as the sole recourse not outstanding).</p>
<p>Thank you for your time and assistance with this ^_^ </blockquote><p>The general rule is that if something doesn't say it grants an ability, it doesn't grant that ability.
<p>In the case of spell pre-requisites, Bards can try Use Magic Device (a skill they can be pretty good with) on scrolls or wands to provide the spell, or collaborate with a spellcaster who does have access to the needed spells (as mentioned in general for crafting normal items).</p>patternscribe wrote:I've searched through the posts here, and have done a bit of searching online, but I still need help understanding one of the Bard Archetype: Hoaxer class skills.
At 5th level you gain Curse Crafter (Ex) which replaces Lore Master. If you look up the rules for crafting cursed items found elsewhere in the product you find "Intentionally crafting cursed items requires the same item creation feats and skill checks as does crafting a normal item of that type, but in addition...Urath DM (alias of Mark Greene)2016-09-19T20:30:12Z