Pathfinder Pawns: Monster Codex Box

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Pathfinder Pawns: Monster Codex Box

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The fiercest surprises often come from the most familiar foes! The hordes of organized and intelligent monsters presented in the Pathfinder RPG Monster Codex come to terrifying life on your tabletop with this box-busting collection of over 200 character pawns to use with the Pathfinder RPG or any tabletop fantasy roleplaying game. Printed on sturdy cardstock, each pawn contains a beautiful full-color image of a character from the Monster Codex, and slots into a size-appropriate plastic base, making it easy to use in play alongside traditional metal or plastic miniatures. With multiple pawns of the most useful monsters, allowing you to create the encounters from the Monster Codex's encounter groups, the Monster Codex Pawn Box is the best way to ensure you've got the right monsters to push your Pathfinder game to the next level!

ISBN-13: 978-1-60125-717-8

Monster Codex Box Set List

Boggards

  1. Boggard (4)
  2. Boggard Abyssal Warrior
  3. Boggard Brute
  4. Boggard Champion (2)
  5. Boggard Farcroaker (2)
  6. Boggard Hunter (2)
  7. Boggard Priest-King
  8. Boggard Prophet
  9. Boggard Savage (2)
  10. Boggard Stalker
  11. Boggard Swampseer
  12. Bogwiggle

Bugbears

  1. Bugbear (2)
  2. Bugbear Ambusher
  3. Bugbear Bloodmage
  4. Bugbear Cultist (2)
  5. Bugbear Flesh Glutton
  6. Bugbear Gnasher
  7. Bugbear Lurker (2)
  8. Bugbear Stalker (2)
  9. Bugbear Tyrant
  10. Frightful Haunter

Drow

  1. Abrakarn Viper
  2. Drow (4)
  3. Drow Demonic Champion
  4. Drow House Captain (4)
  5. Drow House Guard (6)
  6. Drow Master Scout (4)
  7. Drow Matron
  8. Drow Poisoner
  9. Drow Priestess (2)
  10. Drow Scout (2)

Duergar

  1. Dark Spitter Beetle
  2. Duergar (8)
  3. Duergard Bombardier
  4. Duergar Captain
  5. Duergar Hammer (2)
  6. Duergar High Priestess
  7. Duergar Lieutenant (4)
  8. Duergar Taskmaster
  9. Juggernaut Beetle

Fire Giants

  1. Fire Giant (4)
  2. Fire Giant Doombringer
  3. Fire Giant Glaive (2)
  4. Fire Giant King
  5. Fire Giant Lieutenant (2)
  6. Fire Giant Magmablade
  7. Fire Giant Queen
  8. Fire Giant Strongarm (3)
  9. Steam Hog

Frost Giants

  1. Frost Giant (2)
  2. Frost Giant Battle Priestess
  3. Frost Giant Elite Scout (2)
  4. Frost Giant Houndmaster
  5. Frost Giant Hunter
  6. Frost Giant Ice Mage
  7. Frost Giant Jarl
  8. Frost Giant Raider (2)
  9. Svathurim
  10. Winter Wolf (4)

Ghouls

  1. Ancient Gravedigger
  2. Carrion Golem (4)
  3. Corpse Cat
  4. Ghoul (4)
  5. Ghoul Commander
  6. Ghoul Creeper
  7. Ghoul Hound
  8. Ghoul Huntsmaster
  9. Ghoul Monarch
  10. Ghoul Stalker (2)
  11. Masked Murderer
  12. Sootwing Bat

Gnolls

  1. Chosen of Lamashtu
  2. Eye of Lamashtu
  3. Flind
  4. Gnoll (4)
  5. Gnoll Bouda
  6. Gnoll Bruiser (3)
  7. Gnoll Lieutenant
  8. Gnoll Packlord
  9. Gnoll Rageborn
  10. Gnoll Ravager
  11. Gnoll Warden
  12. Hyena (3)

Goblins

  1. Goblin (3)
  2. Goblin Chief
  3. Goblin Commando
  4. Goblin Firestarter (2)
  5. Goblin Frog-Talker
  6. Goblin Outrider (2)
  7. Goblin Sneak (4)
  8. Goblin Stickylord
  9. Goblin Vulture Pilot
  10. Grizzled Rider (3)
  11. Mutant Goblin
  12. Worg (4)

Hobgoblins

  1. Hobgoblin (5)
  2. Hobgoblin Battle Priestess
  3. Hobgoblin Battlefield Zealot
  4. Hobgoblin Bombardier
  5. Hobgoblin Commander
  6. Hobgoblin Forerunner (2)
  7. Hobgoblin Lieutenant (4)
  8. Hobgoblin Paragon
  9. Hobgoblin Sergeant (4)
  10. Yzobu (2)

Kobolds

  1. Kobold (6)
  2. Kobold Battle Master
  3. Kobold Blade (2)
  4. Kobold Bomber (2)
  5. Kobold Chieftain
  6. Kobold Devilspeaker
  7. Kobold Guilecaster
  8. Kobold Master Trapper
  9. Kobold Scalecaster
  10. Kobold Sniper (4)
  11. Kyrana

Lizardfolk

  1. Lizard Scion (2)
  2. Lizardfolk (6)
  3. Lizardfolk Berserker (4)
  4. Lizardfolk Champion
  5. Lizardfolk Clutch Mother
  6. Lizardfolk Rattler
  7. Lizardfolk Sorcerer
  8. Lizardfolk Stalker
  9. Lizardfolk Swamp Lurker
  10. Lizardfolk Vanguard (4)

Ogres

  1. Fiendish Rhinocerous
  2. Ogre (4)
  3. Ogre Boss
  4. Ogre Destroyer
  5. Ogre Hunter
  6. Ogre King
  7. Ogre Mancatcher (3)
  8. Ogre Priestess
  9. Ogre Stalker
  10. Troggle
  11. Wolf

Orcs

  1. Gorthek Rider (2)
  2. Orc (6)
  3. Orc Lieutenant
  4. Orc Mystic
  5. Orc Scout (6)
  6. Orc Sergeant (2)
  7. Orc Thug (6)
  8. Orc War Drummer
  9. Orc Warlord
  10. Orc Witch Doctor

Ratfolk

  1. Kirrix
  2. Ratfolk (6)
  3. Ratfolk Bravo
  4. Ratfolk Caravan Guard (4)
  5. Ratfolk Chemist
  6. Ratfolk Elder
  7. Ratfolk Expedition Leader
  8. Ratfolk Sage
  9. Ratfolk Tinkerer (4)
  10. Ratfolk Warden (2)
  11. Riding Rat (4)

Sahuagin

  1. Feeder in the Depths
  2. Hammerhead Shark (4)
  3. Sahuagin (4)
  4. Sahuagin Baron
  5. Sahuagin Brute (2)
  6. Sahuagin Deep Racer
  7. Sahaugin High Priestess
  8. Sahuagin Lieutenant
  9. Sahuagin Prince
  10. Sahuagin Scout
  11. Sahuagin Underpriestess

Serpentfolk

  1. Advanced Serpentfolk (3)
  2. Degenerate Serpentfolk
  3. Serpentfolk (2)
  4. Serpentfolk Bone Prophet
  5. Serpentfolk High Priest
  6. Serpentfolk Hunter (2)
  7. Serpentfolk Illusionist
  8. Serpentfolk Spellblade
  9. Serpentfolk Spy (2)
  10. Seru

Troglodytes

  1. Giant Monitor Lizard (4)
  2. Slaugrak
  3. Troglodyte (5)
  4. Troglodyte Beast-Speaker
  5. Troglodyte Champion
  6. Troglodyte Chieftain
  7. Troglodyte Priest
  8. Troglodyte Scale-Rider (3)
  9. Troglodyte Skulker (2)
  10. Troglodyte Sorcerer
  11. Troglodyte Tyrant
  12. Troglodyte Warren Guard

Trolls

  1. Sewer Troll
  2. Troll (3)
  3. Troll Acolyte
  4. Troll Brute (2)
  5. Troll Elder Matron
  6. Troll Fury (3)
  7. Troll Monarch
  8. Troll Render
  9. Troll Ripper (3)
  10. Troll Warden (2)

Vampires

  1. Coffin Guard (5)
  2. Englightened Vampire
  3. Shady Minion (5)
  4. Vampire (4)
  5. Vampire Lord
  6. Vampire Savage
  7. Vampire Seducer (2)
  8. Vampire Spawn (5)
  9. Vampire Warrior (4)
  10. Weird Butler

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Excellent Value for Many Games

*****

If you're not familiar with the concept, Paizo's line of pawns for Pathfinder are thick cardboard two-dimensional tokens, with full-colour artwork of a creature printed on both sides. The pawns slot into a base that takes up the same amount of space on a 5' grid as the creature should, so a large-sized creature's token is larger and slots into a large-sized base. The reason this line is so popular is that pawns are an affordable way to amass a practical but handsome-looking collection of monster and NPC tokens. They're easy to use, easy to store, and won't cost the thousands of dollars it would take to amass an equivalent size collection of plastic or metal miniatures.

The Pathfinder Pawns: Monster Codex Box is based on the enormously popular hardcover Monster Codex. In that book, twenty classic races from the Pathfinder RPG were fleshed out and stats were provided for a wide variety of examples of that race: the Core Bestiary has ogres, but the Monster Codex has Ogre Bosses, Ogre Priestesses, Ogre Kings, etc. Accordingly, the pawn set for the book has at least one pawn for every one of those two hundred+ variations, along with multiple tokens for some of the more common ones. To take just one example, the "Gnolls" category is represented by four regular gnoll tokens, three "gnoll bruisers", three hyenas, and then single tokens for 9 other types of gnolls. Each pawn in the set is labelled and numbered for easy sorting, and the back of the box has an index to make things easier. The box includes 20 medium bases and 5 large bases.

If nothing else, the collection is a nice supplement to the pawns presented in the Bestiary pawn collections--it's always helpful to have more tokens of common monsters for larger encounters. But the real value of this particular pawn box is when a GM has a major story arc (or even campaign) that focuses on a particular race of monsters. You don't need ten different variations of an orc if it's just a random wilderness encounter, but if you have PCs invading an orc stronghold, being able to differentiate between "common" orcs, "Orc Sergeants", "Orc Witch Doctors", and the "Orc Warlord" adds a lot to the battlemap. I got this box because I'm running the Rise of the Runelords Adventure Path, and I've been able to make great use of the varieties of Ghouls, Goblins, and Ogres included in the box.

My recommendation would be to scan the list of monster races covered by the Monster Codex, and if you think any of them will have a serious presence in your game, go ahead and pick up this box. The artwork is gorgeous, the variety is excellent, and it's something you can use for any fantasy RPG even if you change games or editions.


Hey Game Masters! Build Your Monster Armies With This Box!!!

*****

The Monster Codex Pawn Box is the perfect set with which to build your monster armies. Get the basics with the first Bestiary Box and then stat it up and pimp out your enemies with this amazing set of monster pawns. You get everything listed in the set description and more as you will strike fear into your players as you load up trays with a never ending flood of villainy!

Buy it today - if you can!


Better than the Bestiary Box

*****

As I've mentioned in other reviews, I have always loved the idea behind the Pathfinder Pawns, but even with a Bestiary Boxes 1 and 2 and a few Adventure Path pawn sets, I didn't really use them that often. Most of the time I stuck to my old minis, for two main reasons:
1) There were hardly any of a lot of the common monsters like kobolds, hobgoblins, and bugbears.
2) There wasn't a great variety of potential PC's.

This box solves problem 1! This is a great set and is absolutely necessary to own. If you only buy one Pawns boxed set, let it be this one. Such a huge variety of the common monster races. I can finally use kobolds in my game! And bugbears and Hobgoblins. It also has some great orcs.

The art is, on average, also larger and easier to see than previous sets. Great job, Paizo.

If you are new to Pathfinder Pawns and don't know where to start, here's what I recommend:

1) Monster Codex
2) NPC Codex
3) Summon Monster
4) Bestiary Box 1

These four will give you a solid base of almost everything you need. Everything else you get after that will add variety and zest to your pawn collection.


Paizo surprised me. Some amazing outside sources.

*****

Received the PDF today. The hardcopy is in transit.

First, for those of you wondering if there is new artwork, the answer to that is yes. I'll get to that in a moment. If you're familiar with the Monster Codex book, you'll be happy to know that ALL of the artwork from the book is included.

Now for the new art (which was the part that surprised me), Paizo included some additional characters in this book from previous books.

* The boggard swampseer - art from one of the previous APs.
* Ghoul - artwork not included in the book. It looks familiar and possibly from an AP.
* Gnoll packlord - this art is from the advanced race guide (I'm pretty sure). Note to Paizo - MORE artwork from the advanced race guide for future pawn sets would be great!
* Hobgoblin - this particular artwork is from the Jade Regent Adventure Path. I'm certain of it.
*Hobgoblin Battlefield zealot - this artwork is from a standard Paizo image I've seen before. Very cool image.
* Orc Lieutenant - I've never seen this one before, but it's probably one of the neatest images in this collection.
* Orc war drummer - image looks like it's from one of the APs.
* Degenerate Serpantfolk - this image is from the Serpent's Skull AP. Very cool image.
* Troglodyte priest -this is the troglodyte image from the Legacy of Fire.
* Troll Warden - this is the cover image for the troll on one of the Reign of Winter Aventure Path books.

***** Special note to Paizo ***** keep including artwork from former APs in your future pawn collections. Also, I'd highly recommend that you include the artwork from Chronicles of the Righteous, the servitors from Inner Sea gods, and the remaining art from Advanced Race Guide. You did a great job with this current collection incorporating old artwork that hadn't been used on pawns. Please keep doing it!


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taks wrote:
Wow, $600? That's absurd.

Yep...because there's no competition...idk if anyone bought it or not but I wouldn't be surprised since the official statement is "we'll never reprint it" it's basically a collector's item now.


Pathfinder Companion, Pawns Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Oh, I understand the concept of why, that doesn't make it any less astounding. I've used mine too heavily to make anything off of it, too. :)

I hear people run across these every once in a while, so the best advice is to simply stop into local stores on occasion. I don't recall whether I got mine at a local store or not. The one I go to on occasion is actually a U-Haul rental that sells gaming supplies, oddly enough. Their customer base is primarily Warhammer 40K from what I can tell, so some of the Pathfinder products sit around for a while.

What I think would be neat would be small packs of individual monster types. Undead, for example, are poorly represented but make up a large portion of fantasy RPG lore. I have 7 boxes, Mummy's Mask, Hell's Rebels, Giantslayer, and Curse of the Crimson Throne, but only 3 skeletons. WTF?! Thinking about it, maybe an undead codex would be a good idea.

EDIT: I can never get my first post right it seems, and I'm anal about spelling mistakes. Argh.

Scarab Sages

I understand its a business decision, but frankly its not a decision I can support.

The material in this codex is simply too useful and too crucial to player immersion.

If you have to print it at a loss and make the profits up elsewhere, you should consider it.

To do otherwise is to forsake the player-base for dollar signs and is a really s*&@ty move.

Liberty's Edge

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The playerbase survived fine before this product existed.


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If it's so important to you, and you think financial loss is not that bad, maybe you should consider printing it at a loss yourself?


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Ratnasambhava wrote:

I understand its a business decision, but frankly its not a decision I can support.

The material in this codex is simply too useful and too crucial to player immersion.

If you have to print it at a loss and make the profits up elsewhere, you should consider it.

To do otherwise is to forsake the player-base for dollar signs and is a really s@$$ty move.

Doing so means either other products need to make more money (so the playerbase "are forsaken for dollar signs" anyway and potentially it's players who don't want this product reprinted).

Alternatively, Paizo lose money and then cut back on production of other products, so the player base loses again.

Ultimately, we need to remember that our individual positions are always skewed. Only Paizo are in any kind of position to make definitive judgements about print runs, reprints, alternatives and so forth. (And even then, they don't always get it right). They know how these things sell and they've determined that it's just not feasible. Remember that "Business decision" doesn't necessarily mean "I don't want to cut into profits because I want to buy a nicer car" it can mean "if we keep doing things like this, we'll have to let someone go".

I think it's worth bearing in mind that getting a print-run wrong hurts Paizo far more than it hurts any of us. (Consider that if they'd ordered more of these at the outset they would have achieved higher revenue on all the extra sales plus they would have been able to get a cheaper price-per-unit, so even all the sales they actually made would have generated more profit). They're not trying to screw anyone over or create shortages - they have to guess ahead of time, without knowing which things are going to sell. Having done so and got it wrong, they need to choose between a reprint that potentially takes years to cover its' costs which will favor a few fans who can't find the product via other avenues or they can devote resources to creating a close-to-immediately profitable new product which will benefit many more.

At least they keep the PDFs available. If someone really wants one (and doesn't care about costs) they can take them to a printer with another pawn set and order a single copy for personal use. I'm sure there are cheaper home-printing options from the PDF that will be serviceable, even if not perfect.

It's not what Paizo would have liked to provide, but it's better than nothing.


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Ratnasambhava wrote:

I understand its a business decision, but frankly its not a decision I can support.

The material in this codex is simply too useful and too crucial to player immersion.

If you have to print it at a loss and make the profits up elsewhere, you should consider it.

To do otherwise is to forsake the player-base for dollar signs and is a really s#$!ty move.

You don't seem to understand how businesses make financial decisions, actually.

The only way they make a profit is if the player-base pays them money. A loss on one product is simply offset by other products (and thus the players who buy that other product pay for the losses).

They've decided that they aren't going to ask other players to pay extra so we can get the product we want.

If you truly can't support this decision, then buy the PDF and print out your own private version. There's probably a local printer who can print onto a thick cardstock for you.

It's not "forsaking the player base". It's deciding that one small part of the player-base is not more important than all the rest.


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Ratnasambhava wrote:

I understand its a business decision, but frankly its not a decision I can support.

The material in this codex is simply too useful and too crucial to player immersion.

If you have to print it at a loss and make the profits up elsewhere, you should consider it.

To do otherwise is to forsake the player-base for dollar signs and is a really s%%+ty move.

Who stopped you from buying it for the past year and a half that it was available?


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uh... can't someone just buy the PDF and bring the file to Staples or Office Depot to get it printed on cardboard?


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If it helps, I managed to find this in the summer in a french online store under this name: Boite à Monstres : Codex Monstrueux

The artwork is the same and the funny translated names are hidden by the base anyway. Better than not having it!


So I missed this one like many others. I didn't play Pathfinder until last year and just recently started collecting Pawns as they're on of my favorite Paizo Products.
I got the PDF and have print them on Cardstock that I hold up with these clips that I don't know the names of.
But I would like to have some more like the thick cardboard ones.
I see people suggesting bringing them to staples. Would they be able to cut them out as well?

I like holding my pawns in folders and stuck in their original cardboard sheets.

(Off topic: very happy they reprinted the Bestiary 1 pawns though!)


Brother Fen wrote:


Who stopped you from buying it for the past year and a half that it was available?

Um lack of money, lack of a group to justify buying it, lack of time to play, hell even lack of space for a relatively big box. I didn't have any money to spend on this kind of thing until after it was discontinued.


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Nathaniel Ocker wrote:
Brother Fen wrote:


Who stopped you from buying it for the past year and a half that it was available?

Um lack of money, lack of a group to justify buying it, lack of time to play, hell even lack of space for a relatively big box. I didn't have any money to spend on this kind of thing until after it was discontinued.

Check your PM.

EDIT: Nevermind. I can't seem to message you.

There are three Monster Codex Pawn Boxes on the secondary market for less than retail at present.

Pick 'em up if you want them!


Brother Fen wrote:

Check your PM.

EDIT: Nevermind. I can't seem to message you.

There are three Monster Codex Pawn Boxes on the secondary market for less than retail at present.

Pick 'em up if you want them!

I'd love to pick one up.

I know it is probably a stupid question, but, what is the "Secondary market"? I looked on the two largest reselling sites I can think of and found nothing.


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I would really like to know about the "Secondary market" too.
Ive only come to know about this box a few days ago and was already looking forward to it because it would greatly help for my next campaign. Hearing it wont be produced anymore really dampens my mood in that regard.


I wouldn't mind an extra copy...


GM PDK wrote:
uh... can't someone just buy the PDF and bring the file to Staples or Office Depot to get it printed on cardboard?

I'm reposting this because I'm seriously asking to make sure buying the PDF and printing it on the same cardboard type would be ok?


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PDK,

I'm assuming as long as you didn't try to SELL them, yes.


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GM PDK wrote:
GM PDK wrote:
uh... can't someone just buy the PDF and bring the file to Staples or Office Depot to get it printed on cardboard?
I'm reposting this because I'm seriously asking to make sure buying the PDF and printing it on the same cardboard type would be ok?

You can print one copy, provided its just for personal use. I've got several things printed by different professional printing places and there's usually no hassle.

It might be useful to point them to this FAQ on paizo's site, if they give you any grief.

That FAQ wrote:

Can I print my PDF, or have it professionally printed?

You may print one copy of any Paizo PDF for personal use. Note that this only applies to products that list Paizo Publishing or Paizo Inc as the copyright holder—other publishers may have different policies; you'll need to contact them directly.


Has this been greenlit for a reprint?!? The secondary market has suddenly shifted, and Amazon shows shipping in one-two months on brand new ones!


Well, aside from the annoyance of breaking out the scissors after printing those, it seems like a decent backup plan if Paizo doesn't decide to make another print run for this...

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

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PneumaPilot2 wrote:
Has this been greenlit for a reprint?!? The secondary market has suddenly shifted, and Amazon shows shipping in one-two months on brand new ones!

No reprint is planned. I have no idea what's going on with Amazon. It's possible that the distributor they buy from accepted some returns from another retailer, and Amazon ordered those... but I would expect that to allow them to ship a lot sooner than "one to two months."


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Maybe you should let us preorder it with the notice "only will be printed if this amount of people are preordering it" (or kickstarter) and see how many want it. Seeing how much people ask for this (not only here but at distributors too) maybe it will be enough.


Well, I’ve ordered one of the 1-2 month new ones from Amazon. I’ll let you know if it arrives.


Ordered one on Amazon as well. A few of them showed up. Hopefully it arrives!


I ordered two of the Monster Codex Boxes from Amazon, today, based on the 1-2 month timeframe, too.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

We inquired with the distributor who sells to Amazon. They "double checked to see if the wholesalers had any stragglers in inventory that Amazon might have been pulling from, but that doesn’t appear to be the case."

I notice today that the "Sold by Amazon" option is no longer available. I would be very surprised if those recent orders don't eventually get cancelled.

Dark Archive

At this point it seems obvious that a few hundred people still want this product.
I wonder how many pieces have to get printed to make it worthwhile?

Leaving the box away and just shrink-wrapping the sheets and leaving the bases away which can be bought seperately seems like a cost-cutting option that could work to me. ;-)

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

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We already looked into doing it as pawns only—see last page.

Folks, it's just simply not sensible for us to reprint this product. Given the rate of sales from the last 18 months that we had this product in stock, it would take us years to sell through even a small run.


I understand why a full reprint is not feasible.

Is it possible to have a smaller set based on this one with the most commonly used races ? (goblins, orcs, drow)

For the printing option it would be nice to have a relatively cheap blank pawn set, without art and bases. Possibly sold the same way as we can buy different color/size of bases, it would be great if we could order sheets of medium/large/huge blank pawns.


Vic Wertz wrote:
I would be very surprised if those recent orders don't eventually get cancelled.

Why do you say such hurtful things? :'(

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Companion Subscriber

He wants to prevent people from getting their hopes up so they won't be crushed later.

I find Zoltan's idea fascinating. Blank pawn sheets with pre-punched perforations? Has this idea been raised before? I know that a big part of why I'm not printing pawns is because it would feel stupid to cut thick cardboard with scissors...this could help with that.


Vic Wertz wrote:

We inquired with the distributor who sells to Amazon. They "double checked to see if the wholesalers had any stragglers in inventory that Amazon might have been pulling from, but that doesn’t appear to be the case."

I notice today that the "Sold by Amazon" option is no longer available. I would be very surprised if those recent orders don't eventually get cancelled.

Thanks, Vic. I really appreciate your looking into this.


Vic Wertz wrote:

We already looked into doing it as pawns only—see last page.

Folks, it's just simply not sensible for us to reprint this product. Given the rate of sales from the last 18 months that we had this product in stock, it would take us years to sell through even a small run.

That seems really pessimistic. There are dozens of customers asking for a re-print on this product and it is sold out everywhere. Even places like eBay don't have it. The product-scalpers on Amazon that were selling boxes for $100 each are all out as well. Clearly, there is a lot of demand for this product.

There must be a way to get this done. Really disappointed that Paizo is just shrugging their shoulders at this.


Zoltán Mészáros wrote:

I understand why a full reprint is not feasible.

Is it possible to have a smaller set based on this one with the most commonly used races ? (goblins, orcs, drow)

For the printing option it would be nice to have a relatively cheap blank pawn set, without art and bases. Possibly sold the same way as we can buy different color/size of bases, it would be great if we could order sheets of medium/large/huge blank pawns.

These are both excellent ideas.


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cailano wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:

We already looked into doing it as pawns only—see last page.

Folks, it's just simply not sensible for us to reprint this product. Given the rate of sales from the last 18 months that we had this product in stock, it would take us years to sell through even a small run.

That seems really pessimistic. There are dozens of customers asking for a re-print on this product and it is sold out everywhere. Even places like eBay don't have it. The product-scalpers on Amazon that were selling boxes for $100 each are all out as well. Clearly, there is a lot of demand for this product.

Dozens doesn’t eat very far into a pile of inventory if the minimum economically viable reprint is in the thousands.

I don’t know the numbers, obviously but Paizo have real, hard data on how well this has been selling at standard prices through a variety of distribution channels over many months. It’s not really a question of pessimism in the case of reprinting a known product.

They could have printed and sold more (and no doubt wish they had). But printing another few hundred now is much more expensive than it would have been to increase the original print run by that same few hundred. Now they face needing to print several thousand (I’d guess) - and if they do that they won’t even break even for several years - let alone turn a profit.


Then they should license or out to a third party or basically just figure out a way to get it done. They've got a lot of disappointed customers here and probably 10x as many who just don't bother to say anything. Doing nothing probably isn't the right answer.

I don't want to make too big a deal about it, it's just a game accessory, but I'm obviously a very disappointed Pathfinder GM over here. I just got into pawns recently and I have a bunch but now I feel like some of the most useful ones are going to be forever unavailable. It makes me buying any other pawn set a lot less likely. That probably doesn't make a lot of rational sense but it's that annoying.

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You don't think they've thought of ways to remake them? Doing "nothing" is the "right" answer when doing anything else would not be sensible for them as a company.

And they're not forever unavailable, you can still buy the PDF and make your own pawns.


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cailano wrote:

Then they should license or out to a third party or basically just figure out a way to get it done. They've got a lot of disappointed customers here and probably 10x as many who just don't bother to say anything. Doing nothing probably isn't the right answer.

I don't want to make too big a deal about it, it's just a game accessory, but I'm obviously a very disappointed Pathfinder GM over here. I just got into pawns recently and I have a bunch but now I feel like some of the most useful ones are going to be forever unavailable. It makes me buying any other pawn set a lot less likely. That probably doesn't make a lot of rational sense but it's that annoying.

I know just how you feel. When I started collecting Paizo products there were a bunch that were out of print. If I hadn't managed to track those few down before I began my collection, I probably wouldn't have signed up for any subscriptions.

I definitely don't mean to dismiss your frustration, it's just that there are basically two solutions to the problem of a reprint: "Print lots" or "Print a few" and the first results in tying up capital for years whilst the second entails making a loss (and eating up capital immediately).

Perhaps one day there'll be a viable "print on demand" option. That's likely to be the best hope (although not for several years, I'd guess).


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Hey, don't get me wrong, I think Paizo is the best game company out there.

If they had blank pawns available for situations like this, that would be awesome, too.


I also kind of like the kickstarter idea above.


Really if I could go back in time. I would have bought this instead of the bestiary box. Because I rarely use singular monsters and I definitely haven't used 75% of the monsters in the bestiary; I like my dozen goblin battlefields. I ordered one of the amazon ones back when they popped up, so lets hold out hope.

Perhaps it was a marketing problem. I don't know that many people view the monster codex as a go to book to purchase. Naming this box after the book may have been a poor choice. Common monsters box would maybe have sold better.

I haven't ever had anything cancelled from amazon in my history of ordering from the site so that would be a unique experience. I wouldn't be surprised if they got a bunch of them after acquiring a smaller shop or one of their miscellaneous suppliers dumped a bunch of them on the cheap. Or they found some that weren't properly inventoried (they have only been out of stock for six months), end of the year inventory could easily have found some that weren't being tracked.

Oh well. Might have to go the pdf to staples route with this one if amazon doesn't end up having any. Could it maybe be priced at the 9.99 book pdf price?


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Found one on Amazon Canada for $2700!


Unikatze wrote:
Found one on Amazon Canada for $2700!

Yeah those are in Amazon UK and other locales also. Thousands of dollars. Maybe Paizo should consider reprinting at a slightly higher price. I'd be willing to go as high as $50 For a box because the value is there. These are every-campaign pawns, as or more useful than the Bestiary one box.


Unikatze wrote:
Found one on Amazon Canada for $2700!

Yeah those are in Amazon UK and other locales also. Thousands of dollars. Maybe Paizo should consider reprinting at a slightly higher price. I'd be willing to go as high as $50 For a box because the value is there. These are every-campaign pawns, as or more useful than the Bestiary one box.


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+1 who would buy this.

Just found out about these.


Honestly, I've come across a number of vendors who had listed this item for $70.00 and sold out their stock. It seems incredible to me that perhaps the most useful set of pawns could not warrant a reprint, as nearly every game using the pawns would include this set, and are clearly willing to pay more for it. Did the Bestiary 1 Box really outperform the Monster Codex Box that much?

As far as a minimum print quantity vs. time taken to sell, I'm wondering about the printing company that Paizo is working with. Considering the amount of business Paizo does with them, it'd also surprising if nothing could be done to get a lower-volume print done (or something like half the minimum printed as one set, and half the minimum printed as another). I would find it shocking for it to be truly and completely unworkable.

Also, wow, people have been talking about this for a year now. I would be willing to go the PDF route if I knew the results would be of acceptable quality, but without the perforated boards I can only imagine a horrible jagged mess. If anyone has a method to produce results comparable to official pawns, I would love to see it.


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cailano wrote:
I also kind of like the kickstarter idea above.

I like this too.

I just discovered these things, and would totally kickstarter a run for like $50... Whoever paizo works with puts out nice quality pawns. But, I just really really really dislike the prices of 300+ that ppl are currently trying to get for them.

The question then becomes what would we need to set the goal at? If we started a kickstarter (that we were totally willing to hand off to Paizo duders)... like the 'ballpark' figure.

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Fungineer wrote:
Also, wow, people have been talking about this for a year now. I would be willing to go the PDF route if I knew the results would be of acceptable quality, but without the perforated boards I can only imagine a horrible jagged mess. If anyone has a method to produce results comparable to official pawns, I would love to see it.

PHOTO LINK

I made the one on the left, the one on the right is the real deal.

You can definitely tell them apart, but the homemade ones certainly don't look bad (IMO at least).

There's no fancy method to it, beyond the one I posted up thread. The chipboard I use is thin enough to cut through with normal scissors.


Awesome stuff.
Is that chipboard sheet thick enough to fit in the standard pawn bases?

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