paizo.com Recent Posts in Pathfinder Player Companion: Cohorts & Companions (PFRPG) Discussionpaizo.com Recent Posts in Pathfinder Player Companion: Cohorts & Companions (PFRPG) Discussion2023-10-02T00:51:08Z2023-10-02T00:51:08ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Player Companion: Cohorts & Companions (PFRPG)kevin_videohttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9e1c/discuss&page=4?Pathfinder-Player-Companion-Cohorts-Companions#1662019-11-21T07:12:01Z2019-11-21T07:12:01Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">filgaiasguardian wrote:</div><blockquote>The instructor starts out with an apprentice cohort who starts as a commoner, but eventually becomes a real wizard. It still uses a Leadership score to determine how strong your cohort can be, but it's based on Int rather than Cha. When the wizard gains a bonus feat, they can choose a Teamwork feat that they share with the apprentice as long as it's nearby. </blockquote><p>Apologies for necromancing this thread, but I had a question regarding the Apprentice cohort that the Instructor got.
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It says that the apprentice never picks up item creation rules. Does this include the Scribe Scroll feat wizards automatically get at 1st? Do they just not get it, or is it replaced with something? Like how in PFS, Scribe Scroll is replaced with Spell Focus. As well, can an apprentice take any archetype, or are they just a plan vanilla wizard?</p>filgaiasguardian wrote:The instructor starts out with an apprentice cohort who starts as a commoner, but eventually becomes a real wizard. It still uses a Leadership score to determine how strong your cohort can be, but it's based on Int rather than Cha. When the wizard gains a bonus feat, they can choose a Teamwork feat that they share with the apprentice as long as it's nearby.
Apologies for necromancing this thread, but I had a question regarding the Apprentice cohort that the Instructor...kevin_video2019-11-21T07:12:01ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Player Companion: Cohorts & Companions (PFRPG)Bardesshttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9e1c/discuss&page=4?Pathfinder-Player-Companion-Cohorts-Companions#1652019-11-21T07:12:41Z2015-09-18T18:29:35Z<p>I'd simply use the Magical Beast Companion feat from Caged Dragon Games in place of Monstrous Companion.</p>I'd simply use the Magical Beast Companion feat from Caged Dragon Games in place of Monstrous Companion.Bardess2015-09-18T18:29:35ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Player Companion: Cohorts & Companions (PFRPG)Swashbucklersdchttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9e1c/discuss&page=4?Pathfinder-Player-Companion-Cohorts-Companions#1642015-09-18T16:40:42Z2015-09-18T16:40:42Z<p>I made a simple House Rule change for Monstrous Companion:</p>
<p>For the Monstrous Companion Feat, replace the following (including the chart):</p>
<p>"The following chart determines the effective cohort level for your monstrous companion based on your effective druid level."</p>
<p>The new line is: Your effective druid level - 3 is your effective cohort level for your monstrous companion.</p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>I made a simple House Rule change for Monstrous Companion:
For the Monstrous Companion Feat, replace the following (including the chart):
"The following chart determines the effective cohort level for your monstrous companion based on your effective druid level."
The new line is: Your effective druid level - 3 is your effective cohort level for your monstrous companion.
Thoughts?Swashbucklersdc2015-09-18T16:40:42ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Player Companion: Cohorts & Companions (PFRPG)Nighthorror888https://paizo.com/products/btpy9e1c/discuss&page=4?Pathfinder-Player-Companion-Cohorts-Companions#1632016-01-06T22:36:01Z2015-06-28T01:37:57Z<p>I have to say, I'm really disappointed with the undead section of this book, especially the feats. :/</p>I have to say, I'm really disappointed with the undead section of this book, especially the feats. :/Nighthorror8882015-06-28T01:37:57ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Player Companion: Cohorts & Companions (PFRPG)Kalindlara (Contributor)https://paizo.com/products/btpy9e1c/discuss&page=4?Pathfinder-Player-Companion-Cohorts-Companions#1622015-06-09T10:29:38Z2015-06-09T10:29:38Z<p>I was thinking about using that archetype in PFS. Do you think anyone would actually rule that it's useless, or does common sense get a vote?</p>I was thinking about using that archetype in PFS. Do you think anyone would actually rule that it's useless, or does common sense get a vote?Kalindlara (Contributor)2015-06-09T10:29:38ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Player Companion: Cohorts & Companions (PFRPG)LazarXhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9e1c/discuss&page=4?Pathfinder-Player-Companion-Cohorts-Companions#1612015-10-31T05:49:03Z2015-06-09T10:21:53Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">ElMustacho wrote:</div><blockquote><p> I looked to the paladin archetype, it has a problem.
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•• spoiler omitted ••... </blockquote><p>It means basically that the Paladin in question makes a daily choice of the divine troth, at the same time another would be preparing spells.
<p>Simple for the not overly pedantic.</p>ElMustacho wrote:I looked to the paladin archetype, it has a problem.
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It means basically that the Paladin in question makes a daily choice of the divine troth, at the same time another would be preparing spells. Simple for the not overly pedantic.LazarX2015-06-09T10:21:53ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Player Companion: Cohorts & Companions (PFRPG)ElMustachohttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9e1c/discuss&page=4?Pathfinder-Player-Companion-Cohorts-Companions#1602015-07-19T21:02:41Z2015-06-09T10:13:31Z<p>I looked to the paladin archetype, it has a problem.
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[Spoiler omitted]</p>
<p>Look at the text in italics. The paladin never prepares spells, but he needs to do that to choose his divine troth for the day. He can never use Divine Troth, has a impeded use of Lay on Hands, and can never use Courageous Defense.</p>I looked to the paladin archetype, it has a problem.
[Spoiler omitted]
Look at the text in italics. The paladin never prepares spells, but he needs to do that to choose his divine troth for the day. He can never use Divine Troth, has a impeded use of Lay on Hands, and can never use Courageous Defense.ElMustacho2015-06-09T10:13:31ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Player Companion: Cohorts & Companions (PFRPG)Cheapyhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9e1c/discuss&page=4?Pathfinder-Player-Companion-Cohorts-Companions#1592015-06-09T02:26:06Z2015-06-09T02:26:06Z<p>What? That doesn't make any sense. Why should it just be for nature companions?</p>What? That doesn't make any sense. Why should it just be for nature companions?Cheapy2015-06-09T02:26:06ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Player Companion: Cohorts & Companions (PFRPG)Lou Diamondhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9e1c/discuss&page=4?Pathfinder-Player-Companion-Cohorts-Companions#1582015-06-09T14:45:30Z2015-06-09T02:23:00Z<p>I just picked this book up. I am seldom disappointed in a Paizo product but I am in this one. A book titled Companions and Cohorts should have things in it for classes that have companions like rangers hunters and druids. This book gives classes other than the companion classes access to companions which is not bad in and of it self but there should be things in it for companions of the companion classes.</p>
<p>Why not add a simple feats like the two below</p>
<p>Animal Cohort
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Perquisites Level 4: Natures bound, Hunters bound or any Animal Companion</p>
<p>Your Animal Companion is Awakened and it can have an intelligence above 5
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and take class levels. </p>
<p>Greater Bound
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Perquisites Druid, Ranger Hunter Level 5 and 5 ranks Animal Handeling
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Your bound increases with you animal companion or animal cohort. You can
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communicate telepathically with your Animal companion or Animal Cohort with a range of on mile per level.</p>I just picked this book up. I am seldom disappointed in a Paizo product but I am in this one. A book titled Companions and Cohorts should have things in it for classes that have companions like rangers hunters and druids. This book gives classes other than the companion classes access to companions which is not bad in and of it self but there should be things in it for companions of the companion classes.
Why not add a simple feats like the two below
Animal Cohort
Perquisites Level 4:...Lou Diamond2015-06-09T02:23:00ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Player Companion: Cohorts & Companions (PFRPG)deuxherohttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9e1c/discuss&page=4?Pathfinder-Player-Companion-Cohorts-Companions#1572015-06-08T23:20:43Z2015-06-08T23:20:43Z<p>Charnel Soldiers is really cool, but does it require the undead in question meet the requirements?</p>Charnel Soldiers is really cool, but does it require the undead in question meet the requirements?deuxhero2015-06-08T23:20:43ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Player Companion: Cohorts & Companions (PFRPG)Samyhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9e1c/discuss&page=4?Pathfinder-Player-Companion-Cohorts-Companions#1562015-06-09T00:20:32Z2015-06-05T07:01:49Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">LazarX wrote:</div><blockquote>I think I'll name my first one John Gardner Jordan. </blockquote><p>I understood that reference.LazarX wrote:I think I'll name my first one John Gardner Jordan.
I understood that reference.Samy2015-06-05T07:01:49ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Player Companion: Cohorts & Companions (PFRPG)pendothraxhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9e1c/discuss&page=4?Pathfinder-Player-Companion-Cohorts-Companions#1552016-03-09T06:26:26Z2015-06-04T20:14:53Z<p>I am concerned that the construct rider archetype and especially the spell knowledge discovery were made with excessively harsh costs. I have a hard time seeing the construct rider justifying the loss of three class features and reduced extract use. </p>
<p>Also alchemists already have a reduced number and level of slots so the harsh conditions on using spell knowledge seem a bit excessive. Is the alchemist really going to obsolesce the wizard with more reasonable spell access???</p>
<p>The flavor of both is really great and in some ways overdue, but i think the costs used were too high due to an unnecessary concern on game balance and niche protection.</p>I am concerned that the construct rider archetype and especially the spell knowledge discovery were made with excessively harsh costs. I have a hard time seeing the construct rider justifying the loss of three class features and reduced extract use.
Also alchemists already have a reduced number and level of slots so the harsh conditions on using spell knowledge seem a bit excessive. Is the alchemist really going to obsolesce the wizard with more reasonable spell access???
The flavor of both...pendothrax2015-06-04T20:14:53ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Player Companion: Cohorts & Companions (PFRPG)LazarXhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9e1c/discuss&page=4?Pathfinder-Player-Companion-Cohorts-Companions#1542015-06-02T12:16:33Z2015-06-02T12:16:33Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">TriOmegaZero wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">filgaiasguardian wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">xavier c wrote:</div><blockquote> 1)What is the Bonded Wizard and what does it get?</blockquote>The bonded wizard must take the item option for arcane bond. The item gains hardness and hit points as the wizard levels. They get the ability to alter the type (weapon, ring, amulet, etc.) and aura of the bonded item. They get a pool of "force points" that they can spend to duplicate the effects of mage armor, shield and spiritual weapon. They also get the ability to repair damage to their bonded item. </blockquote>Huh, that sounds kind of attractive. </blockquote><p>I think I'll name my first one John Gardner Jordan.TriOmegaZero wrote:filgaiasguardian wrote: xavier c wrote: 1)What is the Bonded Wizard and what does it get?
The bonded wizard must take the item option for arcane bond. The item gains hardness and hit points as the wizard levels. They get the ability to alter the type (weapon, ring, amulet, etc.) and aura of the bonded item. They get a pool of "force points" that they can spend to duplicate the effects of mage armor, shield and spiritual weapon. They also get the ability to repair damage to...LazarX2015-06-02T12:16:33ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Player Companion: Cohorts & Companions (PFRPG)Yigghttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9e1c/discuss&page=4?Pathfinder-Player-Companion-Cohorts-Companions#1532015-05-28T18:28:28Z2015-05-28T18:28:28Z<p>I only way I can see Monstrous Companion being worth it is if the effective Cohort level is equal to the usual level of your animal companion. Essentially making it a better Cohort than leadership at the cost of not having any followers. Level 20 Druid would have a lvl 20 monstrous cohort. That CR 7 magical beast would have 13 class levels. It would end up having a higher HD number than a standard animal companion as well.</p>
<p>I also personally wouldn't let anyone that simply had leadership get monstrous companions at all.</p>
<p>Anyone else agree with this view to make it worth it while still playing into the intended purpose of reducing complications?</p>
<p>EDIT: You know... even this hardly does what was intended. To make it worth it you would have to allow them to basically be a equal level Cohort with class levels that also gains the benefits of animal companion levels. Essentially combining your companion and your cohort into one. Big issue with this of course that your Cohort would be far stronger than most PCs... lol</p>
<p>Clear candidate for a feat that should simply be deleted.</p>I only way I can see Monstrous Companion being worth it is if the effective Cohort level is equal to the usual level of your animal companion. Essentially making it a better Cohort than leadership at the cost of not having any followers. Level 20 Druid would have a lvl 20 monstrous cohort. That CR 7 magical beast would have 13 class levels. It would end up having a higher HD number than a standard animal companion as well.
I also personally wouldn't let anyone that simply had leadership get...Yigg2015-05-28T18:28:28ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Player Companion: Cohorts & Companions (PFRPG)shadowkrashttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9e1c/discuss&page=4?Pathfinder-Player-Companion-Cohorts-Companions#1522015-05-26T20:51:11Z2015-05-26T20:51:11Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Quote:</div><blockquote>Except the teleport is limited by the cohort's gear. You can't go past 50 lbs of gear with a bearded devil if you want it to teleport.</blockquote><p>I addressed that on the previous page: Bag of Holding.Quote:Except the teleport is limited by the cohort's gear. You can't go past 50 lbs of gear with a bearded devil if you want it to teleport.
I addressed that on the previous page: Bag of Holding.shadowkras2015-05-26T20:51:11ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Player Companion: Cohorts & Companions (PFRPG)Barachiel Shinahttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9e1c/discuss&page=4?Pathfinder-Player-Companion-Cohorts-Companions#1512015-05-26T20:47:44Z2015-05-26T20:47:44Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">shadowkras wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Quote:</div><blockquote>Outside of teleportation, its abilities are not so impressive that I'd rather have a bearded devil instead of, say, a 13th level warpriest.</blockquote><p>Which one is more badass though? :P
<p>By the way, greater teleport at will is fantastic for all kind of game breaking. I can think on so many uses for that, that it wouldnt even be fair with my GM. </blockquote><p>Except the teleport is limited by the cohort's gear. You can't go past 50 lbs of gear with a bearded devil if you want it to teleport.shadowkras wrote:Quote:Outside of teleportation, its abilities are not so impressive that I'd rather have a bearded devil instead of, say, a 13th level warpriest.
Which one is more badass though? :P By the way, greater teleport at will is fantastic for all kind of game breaking. I can think on so many uses for that, that it wouldnt even be fair with my GM. Except the teleport is limited by the cohort's gear. You can't go past 50 lbs of gear with a bearded devil if you want it to teleport.Barachiel Shina2015-05-26T20:47:44Z