paizo.com Recent Posts in Cerulean Seas Campaign Setting: Celadon Shores (PFRPG) PDF Discussionpaizo.com Recent Posts in Cerulean Seas Campaign Setting: Celadon Shores (PFRPG) PDF Discussion2014-12-27T00:16:52Z2014-12-27T00:16:52ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Cerulean Seas Campaign Setting: Celadon Shores (PFRPG) PDFEndzeitgeisthttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9auo/discuss?Cerulean-Seas-Campaign-Setting-Celadon-Shores#212016-04-18T08:52:47Z2016-04-18T08:52:47Z<p>Aye, it fell through the digital cracks of my HD as well...should have had that review done a LONG time ago. •sigh•</p>Aye, it fell through the digital cracks of my HD as well...should have had that review done a LONG time ago. *sigh*Endzeitgeist2016-04-18T08:52:47ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Cerulean Seas Campaign Setting: Celadon Shores (PFRPG) PDFMichael Sayre (Design Manager)https://paizo.com/products/btpy9auo/discuss?Cerulean-Seas-Campaign-Setting-Celadon-Shores#202016-04-17T18:08:32Z2016-04-17T15:22:52Z<p>Wow, your review made me realize I never got my own review for this product posted End! Better get on it... This really is an amazing book, and everyone at the table tends to need a few minutes to drool over the art before we do anything else each time we take it off the shelf.</p>Wow, your review made me realize I never got my own review for this product posted End! Better get on it... This really is an amazing book, and everyone at the table tends to need a few minutes to drool over the art before we do anything else each time we take it off the shelf.Michael Sayre (Design Manager)2016-04-17T15:22:52ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Cerulean Seas Campaign Setting: Celadon Shores (PFRPG) PDFEndzeitgeisthttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9auo/discuss?Cerulean-Seas-Campaign-Setting-Celadon-Shores#192016-04-17T15:20:37Z2016-04-17T12:36:20Z<p>Reviewed first on endzeitgeist.com, then submitted to Nerdtrek and GMS magazine and posted here, on OBS and d20pfsrd.com's shop.</p>Reviewed first on endzeitgeist.com, then submitted to Nerdtrek and GMS magazine and posted here, on OBS and d20pfsrd.com's shop.Endzeitgeist2016-04-17T12:36:20ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Cerulean Seas Campaign Setting: Celadon Shores (PFRPG) PDFSilvercatMoonpawhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9auo/discuss?Cerulean-Seas-Campaign-Setting-Celadon-Shores#182015-04-26T23:50:23Z2015-04-26T23:50:23Z<p>Intrigued. I will have to consider this at some point.</p>Intrigued. I will have to consider this at some point.SilvercatMoonpaw2015-04-26T23:50:23ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Cerulean Seas Campaign Setting: Celadon Shores (PFRPG) PDFMichael Sayre (Design Manager)https://paizo.com/products/btpy9auo/discuss?Cerulean-Seas-Campaign-Setting-Celadon-Shores#172015-04-26T19:34:06Z2015-04-26T19:34:06Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">SilvercatMoonpaw wrote:</div><blockquote> Could someone describe the new races? Any good land ones? </blockquote><p>There's a race of crane people called the Benitsuru that have a flight, land, and swim speed. They're very cool.
<p>The Mizugumo can transition between land and sea very well, and they're a 4 armed, 4 legged race who can spin their own silk rope, so that rocks.</p>SilvercatMoonpaw wrote:Could someone describe the new races? Any good land ones?
There's a race of crane people called the Benitsuru that have a flight, land, and swim speed. They're very cool. The Mizugumo can transition between land and sea very well, and they're a 4 armed, 4 legged race who can spin their own silk rope, so that rocks.Michael Sayre (Design Manager)2015-04-26T19:34:06ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Cerulean Seas Campaign Setting: Celadon Shores (PFRPG) PDFSilvercatMoonpawhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9auo/discuss?Cerulean-Seas-Campaign-Setting-Celadon-Shores#162015-04-25T17:30:17Z2015-04-25T17:30:17Z<p>Could someone describe the new races? Any good land ones?</p>Could someone describe the new races? Any good land ones?SilvercatMoonpaw2015-04-25T17:30:17ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Cerulean Seas Campaign Setting: Celadon Shores (PFRPG) PDFMichael Sayre (Design Manager)https://paizo.com/products/btpy9auo/discuss?Cerulean-Seas-Campaign-Setting-Celadon-Shores#152015-04-25T17:59:24Z2014-12-18T15:24:57Z<p>I'm going to try and get a comprehensive review posted up this evening.</p>I'm going to try and get a comprehensive review posted up this evening.Michael Sayre (Design Manager)2014-12-18T15:24:57ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Cerulean Seas Campaign Setting: Celadon Shores (PFRPG) PDFEmberionhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9auo/discuss?Cerulean-Seas-Campaign-Setting-Celadon-Shores#142014-12-18T12:38:47Z2014-12-18T12:38:47Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Oceanshieldwolf wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Oceanshieldwolf wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Freshwater adventuring? Eastern tropes? Wow, sounds good. [b]Can anyone let me know what all is actually in this?[b] I have the Waves of Thought PDF, but none of the other Cerulean Seas stuff. </p>
<p>@Ssalarn - yes, a print run of all the Cerulean Seas stuff <i>would</i> be beautiful... </blockquote>Bumping for the bolded part... </blockquote><p>Rules for Freshwater Adventuring, 9 new races (including a new aquatic humanoid type), new aquatic samurai orders, 3 class archetypes, 2 new classes, 2 new prestige classes, new materials, a slew of new weapons, armor, feats, and spells. A few new magic items. A bestiary of 25 new monsters. And a ton of great information on how to run a Far East fantasy underwater adventure.Oceanshieldwolf wrote:Oceanshieldwolf wrote:Freshwater adventuring? Eastern tropes? Wow, sounds good. [b]Can anyone let me know what all is actually in this?[b] I have the Waves of Thought PDF, but none of the other Cerulean Seas stuff.
@Ssalarn - yes, a print run of all the Cerulean Seas stuff would be beautiful...
Bumping for the bolded part... Rules for Freshwater Adventuring, 9 new races (including a new aquatic humanoid type), new aquatic samurai orders, 3 class archetypes, 2[/b][/b]...Emberion2014-12-18T12:38:47ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Cerulean Seas Campaign Setting: Celadon Shores (PFRPG) PDFOceanshieldwolfhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9auo/discuss?Cerulean-Seas-Campaign-Setting-Celadon-Shores#132014-12-18T10:34:11Z2014-12-18T10:34:11Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Oceanshieldwolf wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Freshwater adventuring? Eastern tropes? Wow, sounds good. [b]Can anyone let me know what all is actually in this?[b] I have the Waves of Thought PDF, but none of the other Cerulean Seas stuff. </p>
<p>@Ssalarn - yes, a print run of all the Cerulean Seas stuff <i>would</i> be beautiful... </blockquote><p>Bumping for the bolded part...Oceanshieldwolf wrote:Freshwater adventuring? Eastern tropes? Wow, sounds good. [b]Can anyone let me know what all is actually in this?[b] I have the Waves of Thought PDF, but none of the other Cerulean Seas stuff.
@Ssalarn - yes, a print run of all the Cerulean Seas stuff would be beautiful...
Bumping for the bolded part...Oceanshieldwolf2014-12-18T10:34:11ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Cerulean Seas Campaign Setting: Celadon Shores (PFRPG) PDFEmberionhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9auo/discuss?Cerulean-Seas-Campaign-Setting-Celadon-Shores#122014-12-18T03:23:08Z2014-12-18T03:23:08Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Mahare wrote:</div><blockquote><p> So. With the Elemental Weapon, the fire weapon gets the grayflame quality...any specific reason? The Ultimate Equipment guide states that it relies on channelled positive/negative energy which the class does not get. So to get any advantage with that one you're forced to multiclass or get positive/negative energy some other way. Limning might be an alternate - still somewhat fire related and not specific to a positive/negative energy channeler?</p>
<p>With Elemental Weapon, does it replace what bonuses are currently on the weapon or stack with them? At the end it gets a total of +6 bonuses, four for abilities and two for flat out bonus. I'm comparing this to the Paladin which also gets +6 at level 20, and they get to choose into what it goes into, so I'm going to guess it adds on as well. Seeing the "broken weapon" rule only reinforces this - so this is both more and less versatile than the paladin version.</p>
<p>I think for me the magic words for me might be "house rules". Easy enough to do. I'm also thinking of homebrewing a land-based western style class based on this one - kind of a world walker with purviews of tundra, desert, mountain, forest and ocean. There might be some swapping of abilities but it would work mostly the same.
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<p>As for greyflame, it does rely on either multiclassing, or getting the channel energy ability from another source, but it is a powerful ability never-the-less and it fit the theme. It also enforces the "mystical" component of the class, encouraging godaikishi's to branch out a bit in the direction of the divine. Just a small push, mind you, as its just one small ability with several other elements to choose from.</p>
<p>The godaikishi will eventually end up in the Clever Classes line, and get a "drylander" revamp...which honestly won't require much effort.</p>Mahare wrote:So. With the Elemental Weapon, the fire weapon gets the grayflame quality...any specific reason? The Ultimate Equipment guide states that it relies on channelled positive/negative energy which the class does not get. So to get any advantage with that one you're forced to multiclass or get positive/negative energy some other way. Limning might be an alternate - still somewhat fire related and not specific to a positive/negative energy channeler?
With Elemental Weapon, does it...Emberion2014-12-18T03:23:08ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Cerulean Seas Campaign Setting: Celadon Shores (PFRPG) PDFMaharehttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9auo/discuss?Cerulean-Seas-Campaign-Setting-Celadon-Shores#112014-12-18T03:09:46Z2014-12-18T03:09:46Z<p>So. With the Elemental Weapon, the fire weapon gets the grayflame quality...any specific reason? The Ultimate Equipment guide states that it relies on channelled positive/negative energy which the class does not get. So to get any advantage with that one you're forced to multiclass or get positive/negative energy some other way. Limning might be an alternate - still somewhat fire related and not specific to a positive/negative energy channeler?</p>
<p>With Elemental Weapon, does it replace what bonuses are currently on the weapon or stack with them? At the end it gets a total of +6 bonuses, four for abilities and two for flat out bonus. I'm comparing this to the Paladin which also gets +6 at level 20, and they get to choose into what it goes into, so I'm going to guess it adds on as well. Seeing the "broken weapon" rule only reinforces this - so this is both more and less versatile than the paladin version.</p>
<p>I think for me the magic words for me might be "house rules". Easy enough to do. I'm also thinking of homebrewing a land-based western style class based on this one - kind of a world walker with purviews of tundra, desert, mountain, forest and ocean. There might be some swapping of abilities but it would work mostly the same.</p>So. With the Elemental Weapon, the fire weapon gets the grayflame quality...any specific reason? The Ultimate Equipment guide states that it relies on channelled positive/negative energy which the class does not get. So to get any advantage with that one you're forced to multiclass or get positive/negative energy some other way. Limning might be an alternate - still somewhat fire related and not specific to a positive/negative energy channeler?
With Elemental Weapon, does it replace what...Mahare2014-12-18T03:09:46ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Cerulean Seas Campaign Setting: Celadon Shores (PFRPG) PDFCaedwyrhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9auo/discuss?Cerulean-Seas-Campaign-Setting-Celadon-Shores#102014-12-18T00:59:35Z2014-12-18T00:58:13Z<p>One thing I found interesting is how both classes presented in this book work just as well on land as in the water.</p>One thing I found interesting is how both classes presented in this book work just as well on land as in the water.Caedwyr2014-12-18T00:58:13ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Cerulean Seas Campaign Setting: Celadon Shores (PFRPG) PDFOceanshieldwolfhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9auo/discuss?Cerulean-Seas-Campaign-Setting-Celadon-Shores#92014-12-18T02:41:48Z2014-12-18T00:11:52Z<p>Freshwater adventuring? Eastern tropes? Wow, sounds good. Can anyone let me know what all is actually in this? I have the Waves of Thought PDF, but none of the other Cerulean Seas stuff. </p>
<p>@Ssalarn - yes, a print run of all the Cerulean Seas stuff <i>would</i> be beautiful...</p>Freshwater adventuring? Eastern tropes? Wow, sounds good. Can anyone let me know what all is actually in this? I have the Waves of Thought PDF, but none of the other Cerulean Seas stuff.
@Ssalarn - yes, a print run of all the Cerulean Seas stuff would be beautiful...Oceanshieldwolf2014-12-18T00:11:52ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Cerulean Seas Campaign Setting: Celadon Shores (PFRPG) PDFCaedwyrhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9auo/discuss?Cerulean-Seas-Campaign-Setting-Celadon-Shores#82014-12-18T00:04:33Z2014-12-18T00:04:33Z<p>Also, the best picture in the book is the art for the Kawauso Trueform.</p>Also, the best picture in the book is the art for the Kawauso Trueform.Caedwyr2014-12-18T00:04:33ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Cerulean Seas Campaign Setting: Celadon Shores (PFRPG) PDFCaedwyrhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9auo/discuss?Cerulean-Seas-Campaign-Setting-Celadon-Shores#72014-12-17T23:56:50Z2014-12-17T23:56:50Z<p>I posted in another thread, but my thoughts on the matter is that while the immunities seem to be fairly impressive things that other classes cannot do, they also tend to be highly overvalued. Yes, it might mean that the Goadaikishi is strong against other elemental users, but they are still susceptible to a broad range of other effects. This puts them in the Paladin range of defenses, which while strong is not unbeatable.</p>
<p>My bigger concern is the capstone ability of the Wokou which seems to be extremely weak. Then again, capstones don't come up all that often so it won't have a huge in-game impact.</p>I posted in another thread, but my thoughts on the matter is that while the immunities seem to be fairly impressive things that other classes cannot do, they also tend to be highly overvalued. Yes, it might mean that the Goadaikishi is strong against other elemental users, but they are still susceptible to a broad range of other effects. This puts them in the Paladin range of defenses, which while strong is not unbeatable.
My bigger concern is the capstone ability of the Wokou which seems to...Caedwyr2014-12-17T23:56:50ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Cerulean Seas Campaign Setting: Celadon Shores (PFRPG) PDFDungeonmasterCalhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9auo/discuss?Cerulean-Seas-Campaign-Setting-Celadon-Shores#62014-12-17T23:56:01Z2014-12-17T23:56:01Z<p>•wishes Santa would bring him all the Cerulean books•</p>*wishes Santa would bring him all the Cerulean books*DungeonmasterCal2014-12-17T23:56:01ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Cerulean Seas Campaign Setting: Celadon Shores (PFRPG) PDFEmberionhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9auo/discuss?Cerulean-Seas-Campaign-Setting-Celadon-Shores#52014-12-17T23:33:39Z2014-12-17T23:33:39Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Mahare wrote:</div><blockquote><p> So I posted on the general Cerulean Seas thread something specific to this book (Celadon Shores was not up here at the time). To make a long story short for my main point, the capstone for the godaikishi gives, among other things, immunity to all energy types.</p>
<p>I might be wrong, because I'm a little rusty at this. But does that make the godaikishi fully immune to fire, cold, acid, electricity, and sonic damage in one fell swoop? I've never seen a capstone come close to doing that before.</p>
<p>Given the way the class works, I could see immunity to the one element they're currently associated with. You'd still be able to "shift" your immunity, which is something most other classes can't do, and it wouldn't be as blanket powerful.</p>
<p>So could someone please tell me...am I missing some mitigating factor? Is there a counterbalance to immunity to all energy types to help balance the class out? </blockquote><p>The playtesters were on the fence about this one, because at high levels it regular energy damage actually comes into play less than one might think. Originally, it shifted with the class's focus, but there was some concern that it was too weak. As this is the first "printing," we may end up adding an errata according to public consensus on the matter.Mahare wrote:So I posted on the general Cerulean Seas thread something specific to this book (Celadon Shores was not up here at the time). To make a long story short for my main point, the capstone for the godaikishi gives, among other things, immunity to all energy types.
I might be wrong, because I'm a little rusty at this. But does that make the godaikishi fully immune to fire, cold, acid, electricity, and sonic damage in one fell swoop? I've never seen a capstone come close to doing that...Emberion2014-12-17T23:33:39ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Cerulean Seas Campaign Setting: Celadon Shores (PFRPG) PDFMichael Sayre (Design Manager)https://paizo.com/products/btpy9auo/discuss?Cerulean-Seas-Campaign-Setting-Celadon-Shores#42014-12-18T06:11:19Z2014-12-17T16:49:04Z<p>And purchased! Any chance of this getting a print run? I always love Alluria's art and how pretty their books look on my shelf...</p>And purchased! Any chance of this getting a print run? I always love Alluria's art and how pretty their books look on my shelf...Michael Sayre (Design Manager)2014-12-17T16:49:04ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Cerulean Seas Campaign Setting: Celadon Shores (PFRPG) PDFMaharehttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9auo/discuss?Cerulean-Seas-Campaign-Setting-Celadon-Shores#32014-12-17T13:52:02Z2014-12-17T13:52:02Z<p>So I posted on the general Cerulean Seas thread something specific to this book (Celadon Shores was not up here at the time). To make a long story short for my main point, the capstone for the godaikishi gives, among other things, immunity to all energy types.</p>
<p>I might be wrong, because I'm a little rusty at this. But does that make the godaikishi fully immune to fire, cold, acid, electricity, and sonic damage in one fell swoop? I've never seen a capstone come close to doing that before.</p>
<p>Given the way the class works, I could see immunity to the one element they're currently associated with. You'd still be able to "shift" your immunity, which is something most other classes can't do, and it wouldn't be as blanket powerful.</p>
<p>So could someone please tell me...am I missing some mitigating factor? Is there a counterbalance to immunity to all energy types to help balance the class out?</p>So I posted on the general Cerulean Seas thread something specific to this book (Celadon Shores was not up here at the time). To make a long story short for my main point, the capstone for the godaikishi gives, among other things, immunity to all energy types.
I might be wrong, because I'm a little rusty at this. But does that make the godaikishi fully immune to fire, cold, acid, electricity, and sonic damage in one fell swoop? I've never seen a capstone come close to doing that before.
...Mahare2014-12-17T13:52:02ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Cerulean Seas Campaign Setting: Celadon Shores (PFRPG) PDFJiCihttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9auo/discuss?Cerulean-Seas-Campaign-Setting-Celadon-Shores#22014-12-17T11:05:45Z2014-12-17T11:05:45Z<p>Thanks a bunch miss ^_^</p>
<p>or is it Mrs XS ?</p>Thanks a bunch miss ^_^
or is it Mrs XS ?JiCi2014-12-17T11:05:45ZForums: Product Discussion: Cerulean Seas Campaign Setting: Celadon Shores (PFRPG) PDFLiz Courts (Contributor)https://paizo.com/products/btpy9auo/discuss?Cerulean-Seas-Campaign-Setting-Celadon-Shores#12014-12-17T02:52:05Z2014-12-17T02:37:03Z<p>Now available!</p>Now available!Liz Courts (Contributor)2014-12-17T02:37:03Z