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As a GM that regularly recruits new players this will be a good book to keep around. I don´t know how often i have had to explain Channel energy and Rage and somesuch abilities to a new guy and having this book to do it for me even just for a little while while I stat out a character I realised I unexpectedly need for the next encounter.
Theres also a veteran I know that suffers from "tactical retardedness" (He came up with the description himself) that might find a strategy chapter useful.

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Wowzers. I ordered this in 2013.
Didn't expect to be getting my preorder in 2015.
I'm expecting it to be very well organized after so many delays. If it's filled with errata it'll be my last preorder.
Due to the nature of this latest delay, it can't really effect the contents of the book - the book's already been sent to the printer, and if they take advantage of the free reprint to try and change the order, I doubt it'll be a free reprint anymore.
I agree about the original delay from June to December, though. Don't know what caused that.

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With this one I'm going to wait until they say it's shipping from their warehouse.
It's still possible for there to be a very localised earthquake opening up a wormhole underneath the books and transporting them into a vault in the depths of Old Seattle where they can only be recovered after the adventuring party of Lisa Stevens, Vic Wertz, Erik Mona, and (for some reason beyond human understanding) Vin Diesel and Taylor Swift has gone on a long quest in the abandoned depths, fighting off sewer crocodiles, lost bridge trolls, even more lost bridge clubs gone feral, and (of course) the secret Chinese invasion force that's been tunneling its way below the Pacific Ocean since the Korean War.
We do still expect to have it in time for the February shipment. There are still ongoing delays from dockworker strikes up and down the West Coast, though, so there's plenty of opportunities for us to be foiled again!
But between Vin's STR of 16 and Taylor's CHA of 21, we can solve any problem.

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Kajehase wrote:With this one I'm going to wait until they say it's shipping from their warehouse.
It's still possible for there to be a very localised earthquake opening up a wormhole underneath the books and transporting them into a vault in the depths of Old Seattle where they can only be recovered after the adventuring party of Lisa Stevens, Vic Wertz, Erik Mona, and (for some reason beyond human understanding) Vin Diesel and Taylor Swift has gone on a long quest in the abandoned depths, fighting off sewer crocodiles, lost bridge trolls, even more lost bridge clubs gone feral, and (of course) the secret Chinese invasion force that's been tunneling its way below the Pacific Ocean since the Korean War.
We do still expect to have it in time for the February shipment. There are still ongoing delays from dockworker strikes up and down the West Coast, though, so there's plenty of opportunities for us to be foiled again!
But between Vin's STR of 16 and Taylor's CHA of 21, we can solve any problem.
What class lvl are Vin and Taylor

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Taylor is definitely a bard with mythic tiers. Calculating her bard levels, she demonstrated Deadly Performance at the American Music Awards, so that makes her 20th level. For mythic, well, Fearless is a third-tier ability, and she's clearly had that since 2008... I'd say she has Unstoppable, but probably not yet Immortal, so she must have 8 mythic tiers.

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I've been eagerly awaiting this book since it was announced. I'm actually fairly new to tabletop RPGs, having only been able to play a grand total of maybe 16 sessions. One thing that always killed me was character generation. I generally knew what I wanted out of my character but just trying to navigate the nearly 600 page book is a chore. I have managed to brute-force my way into learning the game all on my own, but still manage to get stuff wrong. I sincerely hope this book fixes that. Can't wait.

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I've been eagerly awaiting this book since it was announced. I'm actually fairly new to tabletop RPGs, having only been able to play a grand total of maybe 16 sessions. One thing that always killed me was character generation. I generally knew what I wanted out of my character but just trying to navigate the nearly 600 page book is a chore. I have managed to brute-force my way into learning the game all on my own, but still manage to get stuff wrong. I sincerely hope this book fixes that. Can't wait.
Based on what you have written here, I think you'll find this book very useful!

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I wasn't sure about this book, but after reading more on this thread my interest is definitely piqued. I understand this book is for newer/ beginner players. However, I do have one question: how does this book interact (if at all) with Pathfinder: Unchained? Do the rules contained in the two books counter each other, or somehow mesh together?

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I wasn't sure about this book, but after reading more on this thread my interest is definitely piqued. I understand this book is for newer/ beginner players. However, I do have one question: how does this book interact (if at all) with Pathfinder: Unchained? Do the rules contained in the two books counter each other, or somehow mesh together?
This book is only associated with the Core Rulebook. It bases its advice based on the versions of the classes and rules found within that book.

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We do still expect to have it in time for the February shipment. There are still ongoing delays from dockworker strikes up and down the West Coast, though, so there's plenty of opportunities for us to be foiled again!
So, yeah, that dockworker strike did indeed cause a delay, and it's currently set to arrive too late for February. It's now slated for March, though I will again add that since it's not in our warehouse right now, no guarantees at this point...

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This is really getting old. People might begin loosing interest in the book.
Yeah, well, those longshoremen had been working without a contract since last July and had a number of other clearly legitimate grievances. I want this book, too, but the world is wide, eh? I'll wait.

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Vic Wertz wrote:We do still expect to have it in time for the February shipment. There are still ongoing delays from dockworker strikes up and down the West Coast, though, so there's plenty of opportunities for us to be foiled again!So, yeah, that dockworker strike did indeed cause a delay, and it's currently set to arrive too late for February. It's now slated for March, though I will again add that since it's not in our warehouse right now, no guarantees at this point...
It sucks to be right sometimes.

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Elrawien Lantherion wrote:This is really getting old. People might begin loosing interest in the book.Yeah, well, those longshoremen had been working without a contract since last July and had a number of other clearly legitimate grievances. I want this book, too, but the world is wide, eh? I'll wait.
Yeah, without knowing the specifics, but being aware of the general conditions for longshoremen worldwide, this is a reason I'm downright positive about getting to wait for the product.

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The difference between this and Duke Nukem' Forever is that this book is actually written. It's just not printed. Duke Nukem'... kept changing. Forever.
Hopefully the other difference is that when we finally get the Strategy Guide in our hands, it won't suck out loud the way DNF did. (Or, well, so I'm told by many sources. Never played it myself. Never will. So I can't judge for myself.)

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The difference between this and Duke Nukem' Forever is that this book is actually written. It's just not printed. Duke Nukem'... kept changing. Forever.
Hopefully the other difference is that when we finally get the Strategy Guide in our hands, it won't suck out loud the way DNF did. (Or, well, so I'm told by many sources. Never played it myself. Never will. So I can't judge for myself.)
Actually, the book was printed, shipped to the US, discovered to be of poor quality, sent back, reprinted, reshipped to the US, and is currently held up in shipping containers.

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So, yeah, that dockworker strike did indeed cause a delay, and it's currently set to arrive too late for February. It's now slated for March, though I will again add that since it's not in our warehouse right now, no guarantees at this point...
Wait, I'm confused. Will the strike delay any other products or only this one? If the latter, why only this one? (Other than the theory that this product is indeed cursed.)

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I'm guessing that all of the options presented in this book will be for the Core Rulebook only? If so this will be a huge help in relation to the new PFS Core Campaign.
It gives you pointers to where you can go to explore other options, but all of the advice/class-building guidance/etc. in the Strategy Guide uses only the Core Rulebook.

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Vic Wertz wrote:So, yeah, that dockworker strike did indeed cause a delay, and it's currently set to arrive too late for February. It's now slated for March, though I will again add that since it's not in our warehouse right now, no guarantees at this point...Wait, I'm confused. Will the strike delay any other products or only this one? If the latter, why only this one? (Other than the theory that this product is indeed cursed.)
The import delays are completely unpredictable. We've had a few shipments that weren't delayed at all. We've had a bunch of shipments delayed by a week or two, but usually not enough to push them over the line into the next month. This one was delayed by three weeks (so far). We'll never know why, but sure, yeah, let's go with "cursed."

Soluzar |

Dustin Ashe wrote:The import delays are completely unpredictable. We've had a few shipments that weren't delayed at all. We've had a bunch of shipments delayed by a week or two, but usually not enough to push them over the line into the next month. This one was delayed by three weeks (so far). We'll never know why, but sure, yeah, let's go with "cursed."Vic Wertz wrote:So, yeah, that dockworker strike did indeed cause a delay, and it's currently set to arrive too late for February. It's now slated for March, though I will again add that since it's not in our warehouse right now, no guarantees at this point...Wait, I'm confused. Will the strike delay any other products or only this one? If the latter, why only this one? (Other than the theory that this product is indeed cursed.)
It's too bad you couldn't get a domestic printer. I'll admit sometimes it makes me wince seeing "Made in China" on books. At least on electronics I've sadly come to expect it.

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Huh, so here's something I only just realized. According to the sample image, the cleric section begins on page 52. If the book's content begins on page 6 (after the cover page, table of contents, introduction, and chapter 1 illustration), that means that 46 pages are dedicated to the core races, the barbarian, and the bard. Assuming an even split, that's 5 pages for each one. Or, more likely, that each race gets 4 pages and each class gets 6.
And since I'm assuming a lot of things, that means that the classes chapter will end around page 106. Only 54 pages after that to cover the last four bullet points and ads.
But I might be wrong. The blurb never mentions races, does it?

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Is there a plan to release more of these, perhaps expanding to all the new classes and such?
I'd love that, but I doubt it. The mere attempt might call down fickle fate again to stick pages together and incite dock workers everywhere.
More seriously, I hope that Pathfinder 2 or maybe even future class expansions use the the Strategy Guide format. It's user-friendly and easy-to-read. I think it'd make Pathfinder a lot more attractive to new players.

Jessica Price Project Manager |

Huh, so here's something I only just realized. According to the sample image, the cleric section begins on page 52. If the book's content begins on page 6 (after the cover page, table of contents, introduction, and chapter 1 illustration), that means that 46 pages are dedicated to the core races, the barbarian, and the bard. Assuming an even split, that's 5 pages for each one. Or, more likely, that each race gets 4 pages and each class gets 6.
And since I'm assuming a lot of things, that means that the classes chapter will end around page 106. Only 54 pages after that to cover the last four bullet points and ads.
But I might be wrong. The blurb never mentions races, does it?
There's a single spread on races, and a considerable amount of content before character building starts.