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Axial wrote:But why would you want you want to totally obliterate Talingarde? You wouldn't even have anything left to rule.Some people just want to watch the world burn.
It's also a way for your villain PCs to
I got it, and I like it. I love the detail on what you can do if you set up that wizard's school mentioned in book 6 (magic gate-powered trading and zombie hordes, anyone?), the way to use the one dead dragon's library to make technological superweapons, and the humorous bits. Yes, it gives you the funny, with notes on how to portray Grumblejack, including how to handle his romance with another ogre and the ensuing horde of kids and MinionQuest: learn what it's like to be the flunkies of evil! Done with NPC classes who don't even get names because they won't last enough for it to matter...

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Any chance of print copies of this or the other PDFs?
Not at the moment. Not sure why this and the Throne of Night are behind. I know Gary said last year he was working on updating the pdfs as they were a lot of mistakes in them. I know, I'm writing a blog to update some of the encounters and treasure, and I sent him various "changes" for items missing, spelling mistakes, grammar errors, words not bolded or italicized, etc. That was initial reason he stopped the prints. Not sure what's going on now.

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Wow, only 10 comments on this thread. I'm a little surprised by this. Didn't realize so few people talked on this one compared to the others.
Anyhow, Changes I made to WotW--Book 7, part 1.
Looking things over, I wonder if I'll be doing two or three parts for this. Hmm.

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Things which occurred to me
1) If you want to increase loot there should be several random magical items in Aldencross. Let your players steal most of them
2)I made quite a bit of the Wizard in town , my players used his friendship with the wizard in the tower to draw him into an assasination
3) For minion quest
My players made a thing of the Lycanthropy the minions made an effort to get infected and then returned to their masters and were rewarded for bringing back this new toy. Werewolf Boggards are funny.
I also plan to have an extra minion quest , a minion defected and ran away to the capital more minions have been sent after him , their quest to find and kill the traitor as well as steal an asmodean relic from the church may well succeed but success or failure of this objective they will confront Sir Richard and leave him a trail to follow back to Farholde and a date with destiny at the Horn

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Changes I made to WotW--Book 7, part 2.
I'll definitely be doing at least three parts for this.

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My notes for Minion Quest 1.5. It may be of use to some people although there are a few assumption in there.
1) That the minions are werewolves
2) The masters would quite like a lost artifact somewhere in Matharyn but it is not essential that they get it
I am running it at the end of book 2, but if you wanted to use it with the main pc's it could fit into the start of book 4 , Bernard would have to be someone else who has angered/betrayed the pc's and got away
Missions
1)Bernard has defected go to Matharyn and show him our wrath
2)Bring Bernard back so he can properly appreciate the rewards of Treason
3) If you don't bring me back Bernard bring me something else nice
4) Mark our pack's territory in Matharyn and make the sheep there fear the night
5) Don't draw attention to yourselves
6) See what the local banks are like
Bernard is in Matharyn, felling the werewolf and the wrath of his masters (but also wanting to stay
out of the gathering army). He has joined the League of Repentant Sinners of Mithra. This is a
borderline splinter church run by the most rabid mithrans, they preach about the perils of
Asmodeus and the temptations of wealth and power. They spend a lot of time annoying the
nobility. Problem they all wear Hoods to hide their faces from the light of Mithra until they are
worthy. They also seek out lost shrines to Mithra and other gods to ensure that they are propelry
consecrated to Mithra.
Bernard is seeking one of these lost Mithran shrines in the sewers beneath Matharyn, it is in this
shrine that the Shard of Wrath is hidden which may be slightly problematic for werewolves to
carry.
The outer layer of the temple is still consecrated to Mithra and will summon some low level
angelic guardians which the mithrans ignored.
Further into the temple it has been reconsecrated to Asmodeus , Bernard and his fellows are here
as is a Bone devil bound by a dead asmodean priest whose body lies here alongside the Mithran
monk who killed him. The Devil wants to leave and so far has hidden from Bernard and his
colleagues.
The Priest has a +1 Unholy Longsword, and 5 +2 Unholy,Angel Bane arrows, and some other
magic items destroyed in the struggle
Also seeking the minions is Sir Richad and his merry men who will turn up when it is time to end
the story. Perahps it is information from this meeting which will lead him to the Horn
Bernard and his colleagues are
Sister Sara Repents-False Worship Cleric of Mithra of the Undying flame
Brother Bernard Flees the Wolf 'Bad Cop' Figher/Rogue
Brother Jameson Thou-shalt not steal Rogue
Brother Seneca Stand your Guard Fighter
Sister Jolie Kill-the-Bugbear Fighter
They are armed with silver weapons in case of Devils (and in the case of Bernard in case of Werewolves)

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Read your notes on changes and yea, let the PCs have their win. Sure they are devils and now have an eternity of grinding against the Iron Ceiling for bits of power.
Thanks for reading, and agreeing. Regardless of which ending you read, unless you're a nice GM who gives them the "good" ending there's just too many "pull the rug from under them" scenarios. Seems almost childish to do that. It's like you're waiting for Ashton Kutcher to show up and "You've been Punk'd!"

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Changes I made to WotW--Book 7, part 3.
One entry left. At least when it comes to Book 7.

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Exactly. They're evil. The true stereotype is that bad things happen to those who screw up. Normally, loyalty is rewarded regardless of good or evil. Failure tends to result in death--a bullet to the head or cement shoes.
I look at this the same way as the Godfather. You do right by Asmodeus, you can ask what you want, within reason. You question or go against him, the least that's going to happen is your favourite horse's head ends up in bed with you. That's a punishment. That shouldn't be your end game reward.
@JohnHawkins--Regarding "challenge them", that's fine so long as it's realistic. In Book 6, when Gary gives the alternate encounter, it's fine if they're super powerful, but to me it felt like a sad little GM throwing a tantrum because he wasn't winning. Which, GM's aren't supposed to win. They're supposed to make the game fun. Instead, we get the GM that who's like "What? You managed to beat that CR? Well, then all your minions and cohorts, except Grumblejack for some reason, run away because they're scared, and you now have to face this new epic encounter plus a dozen angels. So there."

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I agree with you. I think the option to make the finale unwinnable for the pc's is part of the Good always triumphs morality meme and I don't see the need for it in a long campaign of evil, If my players don't know they are playing bad people a quick moralistic beat down is not going to fix their problems.
I intend to throw in all of the forces of good's strength for the final battle which will coincidentally give what in my opinion is a tough but balanced battle for the pc's which they have a 50/50 chance of winning depending on their tactics. I will also take into account their army if they have a good strong army then I will give the forces of good less reinforcements if the forces of the Princess are more powerful than theirs each of the Champions of good will be reinforced by lower level mooks , if they have a big advantage they may get some lower level mooks backing them . Of course I have not finished book 2 yet so the details of this are vague
I also take the view that Asmodeus rewards success, if the pc's successfully conquer Talingarde in his name (and eliminate all of their rival servants of Hell trying to steal their credit) then they will be rewarded , if they fail then Hell is not forgiving

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The final "official" entry. Thanks to everyone who read my posts, and supported my doing this.
Changes I made to WotW--Book 7, part 4.
Good luck to everyone in your own games.

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So my PFS friends have informed me that alchemists and investigators don't count has having a caster level. This means that the alchemist that the PCs meet in the extended version of Aldencross, could not have made the construct. It is literally impossible to do. However, since this FAQ answer came about AFTER Book 7 came about, so this information would not have been known to Gary at the time. So, this could mean that he could just be a unique alchemist, or have some special ability given to him that make his alchemist levels count as caster levels. Overall, just go with it.