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Arikiel |
What are those new monsters??? Green Women? Strange tentacle monster?
Wooo! Green women...
Um... I mean does anybody happen to remember the link to the Bestiary 4 content list that was posted on the blog some time back? It wold be nice to scan over that to try to figure out what we're looking at in this demo pic. ^_^Gancanagh |
Creatures I hope getting new Artwork in this one:
Spring-heeled Jack and Graeae are the worst of the lot, can't see what's going on in the graeae one.
Some of these are not bad but i'm curious about more art for them, such as Seps, Zomok, Incutilis and some others.
Abaia / Colour out of Space / Death Dog / Dorvae / Mist Drake / Fachen / Fossegrim / Gaki / Gashadokuro / Blood Golem / GREAEA / Immortal Ichor / Incutilis / Jinmenju / Werecrocodile / Nependis / Nycar / Phantom Armor / Pooka / Rokurokubi / Killer Seahorse / Selkie / Seps / Snallygaster / Spring-Heeled Jack / Tiberolith / Emperor Walrus / Zomok
Sun Kil Moon |
Paizo, please include these pawns in this set with same artwork...
- Cernunnos ** (this is probably coolest concept - a must).
- Erlking
- Gathlain
- Kitsune
- Nagaji
- Svartalfar
- Trox
- Wikkiwak (best bugbear art I've seen).
- Wyvaran
Bestiary 3 is probably the bestiary I've most looked forward to. I'll bribe the designer if they include a Rabbit Prince. ;) I know it's technically not a "monster", but I'm unsure where you guys would fit it in otherwise.
Unseelie |
Since I'm not sure where else to post this, I'll ask here...
By far my only real complaint with the Pawns boxes is that there are not enough of certain monsters. Specifically, I run into this with the various humanoid races. Three is rarely enough.
Would it be viable to either have a box of races, or a series of one off sheets for, say, Orcs, Gnolls, Goblins, Hobgoblins, Kobolds, Skeletons, Zombies, etc.
Arikiel |
I could definitely use more kobolds of different colors. Right now it seems our best bet is to hope that various common races feature prominently in future APs. Like goblins did in the Runelords set.
What I would really like to see is more PC/NPC pawns. Especially for underrepresented groups like brown/black people and female dwarves. Come on Advanced NPC Codex and matching pawns set! >.<
Pathos |
Drock11 wrote:Since he's colossal I think the chances of getting a Cthulu pawn in this are unlikely if the past Bestiary Boxes are anything to go by unfortunately.Stop stealing my joy.
Perhaps instead, we'll get an actual colossal mini of Cthulhu...
*gains 1,000xp in the skill of "dreams big"*
TheMetal1 |
Sure I'd like to see it too, but I don't think a Colossal sized pawn could fit in the packaging that Paizo is using now for the Adventure Paths or for the Box Sets.
Think about the Colossal sized Red Dragon miniature that Wizards of the Coast put out, but I think that is just too big for a single cardboard sheet that Paizo is using now.
Perhaps a Gargantuan 10 Pack, with a single figure on each sheet and one or two Gargantuan bases would be a better gradual the next step.
Even then, I'd like to see Paizo do something similar to what Steve Jackson Games did with Ogre Designer Edition. In ODE the made the Ogre a 3D Pawn and included Flat Ogres as well. Having a Gargantuan Dragon or Cthulhu pawn that that fits in the bases like all the rest of the line and then having a 3-D Type Pawn would be cool.
While there is art already existing for a Gargantuan and even Colossal Pawn, a 3-D version is the challenge both in design and cost.
Marcaeus |
Since I'm not sure where else to post this, I'll ask here...
By far my only real complaint with the Pawns boxes is that there are not enough of certain monsters. Specifically, I run into this with the various humanoid races. Three is rarely enough.
Would it be viable to either have a box of races, or a series of one off sheets for, say, Orcs, Gnolls, Goblins, Hobgoblins, Kobolds, Skeletons, Zombies, etc.
I completely agree!! It would be fantastic to have a sheet of goblins (maybe even including the funny ones like the one in the dragon/kobold costume) or undead! I have a weird thing for taking on hordes...
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I have been ordering the PDF versions....but here is my problem, where can I get the card stock thick enough to go in the stands? I have been getting creative, but if anyone knows where or what kind of cardstock I should be looking for, my printer can feed a pretty good size thickness.
Your best bet is to print it on a regular piece of paper (or 90# index stock), and glue it to some bookbinding chipboard. You could also print it on sticker paper and save yourself the gluing step. :D
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Benchak the Nightstalker Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 8 |
I don't know if I missed this somewhere, but I hadn't seen it, so I thought I'd share.
1. Almiraj
2. Alpluachra
3. Beheaded (3)
4. Boilborn (2)
5. Chaneque (2)
6. Comozant Wyrd
7. Dark Dancer (2)
8. Dinosaur, Velociraptor (3)
9. Dossenus (2)
10. Drake, Shadow
11. Familiar, Archaeopteryx
12. Familiar, Dodo (2)
13. Familiar, Platypus
14. Familiar, Sloth
15. Familiar, Tuatara
16. Flea, Giant (2)
17. Fleshdreg (2)
18. Fleshwarp, Halsora
19. Formian Worker (4)
20. Gathlain (2)
21. Gearghost (2)
22. Gremlin, Grimple
23. Gremlin, Haniver
24. Gremlin, Monaciello
25. Incutilis (2)
26. Isitoq (2)
27. Leaf Ray (2)
28. Locust Swarm (4)
29. Lurking Ray, Executioner’s Hood
30. Mindslaver Mold (2)
31. Ningyo
32. Nycar
33. Pickled Punk (2)
34. Pooka
35. Psychopomp, Nosoi
36. Rat King (2)
37. Ratling (2)
38. Scorpion, Greensting (2)
39. Shredskin (2)
40. Spider, Scarlet (2)
41. Spring-Heeled Jack
42. Tooth Fairy (2)
43. Water Strider, Nymph
44. Wayang (2)
45. Wyrwood (2)
MEDIUM
46. Aoandon
47. Blood Hag
48. Changeling (2)
49. Clockwork Mage (2)
50. Contemplative
51. Dark Caller (2)
52. Devil, Host (3)
53. Dinosaur, Dimorphodon
54. Dorvae (2)
55. Ectoplasmic Human (2)
56. Einherji (2)
57. Elder Thing
58. Erlking
59. Fachen
60. Festering Spirit (2)
61. Fleshwarp, Grothlut (2)
62. Formian Taskmaster (2)
63. Formian Warrior (4)
64. Fossegrim
65. Fungal Nymph
66. Gaki
67. Gallowdead (2)
68. Galvo (2)
69. Geist (2)
70. Golem, Blood (2)
71. Golem, Junk (2)
72. Golem, Wax (2)
73. Graeae (3)
74. Great Old One, Hastur
75. Hamadryad
76. Harionago
77. Herd Animal, Stag
78. Huldra
79. Hypnalis
80. Ijiraq
81. Immortal Ichor
82. Incutilis (3)
83. Jack-o’-Lantern
84. Kasatha
85. Kitsune (2)
86. Kyton, Ostiarius
87. Kyton, Sacristan
88. Lampad
89. Leanan Sidhe
90. Living Topiary (2)
91. Locust, Giant (2)
92. Lunarma
93. Lycanthrope, Werebat (2)
94. Lycanthrope, Werecrocodile (2)
95. Lycanthrope, Wereshark (2)
96. Maenad (3)
97. Mi-Go (3)
98. Mudlord (2)
99. Nagaji (2)
100. Necrocraft (2)
101. Nightgaunt (3)
102. Nightmare Ettercap
103. Oceanid (2)
104. Owb (2)
105. Pard (2)
106. Phantom Armor (2)
107. Psychopomp, Catrina (2)
108. Psychopomp, Morrigna (2)
109. Psychopomp, Vanth (2)
110. Qallupilluk (2)
111. Rokurokubi
112. Saguaroi
113. Samsaran (2)
114. Sayona
115. Selkie (2)
116. Seps, Juvenile
117. Shark, Bull (2)
118. Shriezyx (3)
119. Shulsaga (2)
120. Snallygaster
121. Soulbound Mannequin (2)
122. Soulbound Shell
123. Soulsliver
124. Svartalfar (2)
125. Swan Maiden (2)
126. Tortoise, Giant
127. Udaeus (3)
128. Vampire, N osferatu (2)
129. Weasel, Giant
130. Weedwhip (2)
131. Wikkawak (2)
132. Winter Hag
133. Wyvaran (2)
134. Xenopterid (3)
135. Zombie Lord
LARGE
136. Ankou
137. Apocalypse Locust (2)
138. Brethedan
139. Broken Soul Lillend
140. Buggane (2)
141. Cephalophore (2)
142. Death Dog (2)
143. Demon Lord, Pazuzu
144. Devil, Drowning
145. Drake, Lava
146. Drake, Mist
147. Drake, Spire
148. Empyreal Lord, Cernunnos
149. Empyreal Lord, Korada
150. Empyreal Lord, Vildeis
151. Flea, Mammoth
152. Fleshwarp, Ghonhatine (2)
153. Fleshwarp, Irnakurse (2)
154. Formian Myrmarch (2)
155. Formian Queen
156. Freezing Flow
157. Gholdako
158. Giant, Cliff (2)
159. Giant, River (2)
160. Giant, Slag (2)
161. Golem, Coral
162. Great Old One, Bokrug
163. Grendel
164. Hungry Flesh
165. Hyakume
166. Karkinoi (2)
167. Living Wall (3)
168. Lorelei
169. Mummified Gynosphinx
170. Nependis (2)
171. Peluda
172. Sea Cat
173. Seahorse, Giant (2)
174. Seaweed Siren
175. Shobhad
176. Skinstitch
177. Spawn of Yog-Sothoth
178. Tikbalang
179. Trox (2)
180. Tyrant Jelly
181. Vouivre
182. Walrus
183. Water Strider, Giant
184. Weasel, Dire
HUGE
185. Abaia
186. Clockwork Dragon
187. Colour Out of Space
188. Demon Lord, Dagon
189. Demon Lord, Kostchtchie
190. Devil, Nemesis
191. Divine Guardian Hydra
192. Drakainia
193. Elohim
194. Flying Polyp
195. Gashadokuro
196. Giant, Ocean
197. Jinmenju
198. Kapre
199. Lurking Ray, Lurker Above (2)
200. Lurking Ray, Trapper
201. Manitou
202. Outer Dragon, Lunar
203. Outer Dragon, Solar
204. Outer Dragon, Time
205. Outer Dragon, Void
206. Outer Dragon, Vortex
207. Psychopomp, Yamaraj
208. Seps
209. Shard Slag
210. Shark, Great White
211. Star-Spawn of Cthulhu (2)
212. Taniniver
213. Tiberolith
214. Tunche
215. Xanthos
216. Yaoguai
217. Ypotryll
Sun Kil Moon |
Benchak the Nightstalker wrote:Thanks for the list! And which of those have new artwork?I don't know if I missed this somewhere, but I hadn't seen it, so I thought I'd share.
** spoiler omitted **...
I noticed new artwork for the necrocraft, the broken soul lillend, lava drake, river giant, and Manitou. I'm fairly certain those were new pieces, but I based it on memory (I've gone through bestiary 4 about 10 times). There might have been a few more that I overlooked but it's mostly the same artwork, which I'm personally very happy with.
The Evil Queen |
Thanks for the quick answer!
But can you check the following monsters for new artwork? These are the ones I thought could use some new artwork.
25. Incutilis (2)
32. Nycar
34. Pooka
36. Rat King (2)
41. Spring-Heeled Jack
46. Aoandon
53. Dinosaur, Dimorphodon
54. Dorvae (2)
64. Fossegrim
66. Gaki
70. Golem, Blood (2)
73. Graeae (3)
76. Harionago
78. Huldra
81. Immortal Ichor
82. Incutilis (3)
94. Lycanthrope, Werecrocodile (2)
106. Phantom Armor (2)
111. Rokurokubi
112. Saguaroi
115. Selkie (2)
136. Ankou
146. Drake, Mist
161. Golem, Coral
168. Lorelei
170. Nependis (2)
183. Water Strider, Giant
185. Abaia
187. Colour Out of Space
195. Gashadokuro
197. Jinmenju
212. Taniniver
213. Tiberolith
Benchak the Nightstalker Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 8 |
Benchak the Nightstalker wrote:Thanks for the list! And which of those have new artwork?I don't know if I missed this somewhere, but I hadn't seen it, so I thought I'd share.
** spoiler omitted **...
Sorry, I had work to get done yesterday and didn't have time to go through and compare.
I know the Snallygaster didn't get new art, which is the one I was hoping for (since I wrote it). I want to see a piece with those mouth-tentacles!
The Evil Queen |
I think Abaia also gets new art, as the artwork is very wide in the book, doesn't suit a tile.
I really need a artwork of a Colour out of space without the well in it, a Nependis without a tree will do as well.
Springheel Jack is gothic-artwork which i'm not a fan of, hoping on new art.
Graeae and Dorvae are chaotic artworks, i'd expect them to have new artwork, as I really don't know what's going on in their artworks.
Incutilus has two size variants, so that probably means two different artworks (at least I may hope so!)
Immortal Ichor is another one I expect to see new artwork from, I mean that wide thing would never fit on a tile and its a silly monster in that artwork, it can't do anything to attack.
Fossegrim I just want multiple artworks off.
Blood Golems and Mud Lords look too much alike, I hope to see another type of blood golem in the artwork so they aren't just different colored versions of eachother.
And Rokurokubi in action would be sweet, don't like the tea-party.
Werecrocodile art makes me think of stand-up comedians and not about something scary and feral.
Would kill for another Mist Drake artwork.
Kadasbrass Loreweaver |
Only 3 Mi-Go? That won't due, I need at least 9 of them for an "Invasion" if I recall correctly.... But I don't think my players wish to encounter any more Mi-Go after the first one that was wearing the skin of some bald guy in a wheelchair named Baron Xavier von Braun
Benchak the Nightstalker Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 8 |
The immortal ichor's Bestiary art is perfect if you're hip to the piece of pop culture it's referencing (I had totally forgotten about it until I started flipping through the Bestiary, and it made me so happy to stumble across it), but I agree, it wouldn't make for a great pawn. You'll be happy to know it got new art!
Here's the list I came up with after flipping through B4 and comparing it to the B$ Pawns pdf. These are the pawns with art that is either not present or not the same in the Bestiary, I make no promises as to whether the art is entirely new or not.
Broken Soul Lillend
Death Dog
Dinosaur, Dimorphodon
Dinosaur, Velociraptor (Same art, but front dinosaur only, background and second dinosaur removed)
Outer Dragon, Lunar
Outer Dragon, Solar
Outer Dragon, Time
Outer Dragon, Void
Outer Dragon, Vortex
Drake, Lava
Drake, Mist
Drake, Shadow
Dorvae
Familiar, Archaeopteryx
Familiar, Dodo
Familiar, Platypus
Familiar, Sloth
Familiar, Tuatara
Flea, Giant
Flea, Mammoth
Fleshwarp, Halsora
Giant, River
Immortal Ichor
Incutilis
Living Topiary
Locust, Giant
Lurking Ray, Executioner's Hood
Lurking Ray, Trapper
Necrocraft
Nependis
Shark, Bull
Tortoise, Giant
Walrus
Water Strider Nymph (Same art, but recolored, and without the background.)
Everything else looked the same to me.
The Evil Queen |
Abaia? How can that thing have the same art? It never suits on the pawn?
Graeae? That thing is horrible, I can't even see what it is suppose to be...
Spring-Heeled Jack, in my opinion the least art in the book, but still no new artwork...
Wish at least these 3 have new artwork...
Alp-Luachra was pretty cool already, and the lillend shouldn't have gotten new art at all, it was perfect...
Dorvea, Immortal Ichor, Incutilus, Nependis and Mist Drake are good news!
Benchak the Nightstalker Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 8 |
Seraphmoon |
I know this has been brought up before, but PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE release a Colossal/Gargantuan pawn set of the Bestiaries 1-4, I will pay good money for that. I know I can put a teddy bear on the board and use my imagination, but I want pawns of all the awesome iconic monsters especially now that Cthulu is a possibility, it is kind of dumb looking when you have accurate representations of minor monsters, but all the really awesome ones are left out. Thanks in advance Paizo.
Arikiel |
I'm still debating on wether or not to get this. I have every pawn set up to this one but I dunno. I mostly have been getting the AP sets for the pawns that can be used as NPCs. This box won't have any of those however. Bestiary 1 covers about 90% of the monsters I regularly use, Bestiary 2 about 9%, and Bestiary 3 about .9%. There's a few things I might use once in awhile in 4 but is it really going to be worth it for stuff I'll use about .09% of the time? *shrugs*
bugleyman |
I'm still debating on wether or not to get this. I have every pawn set up to this one but I dunno. I mostly have been getting the AP sets for the pawns that can be used as NPCs. This box won't have any of those however. Bestiary 1 covers about 90% of the monsters I regularly use, Bestiary 2 about 9%, and Bestiary 3 about .9%. There's a few things I might use once in awhile in 4 but is it really going to be worth it for stuff I'll use about .09% of the time? *shrugs*
Bestiary 1 definitely sees the most use -- enough so that I have two copies -- but pawns are a really good value. I'll pick these up eventually.
Sun Kil Moon |
What I'd really like to see is a pawn set for the Monster Codex once it comes out. That would see so much more use. *crosses fingers*
Probably dependent on how well bestiary 4 and Inner Sea pawn sales go.
I'm fairly certain pawns are still selling well for Paizo (any sales associate care to confirm this assumption?) but even if they're not, I hope Paizo extends the pawn output until at least the Monster Codex pawns come out.
Again, I think Monster Codex is primed for some solid sales.
Cori Marie |
Arikiel wrote:What I'd really like to see is a pawn set for the Monster Codex once it comes out. That would see so much more use. *crosses fingers*Probably dependent on how well bestiary 4 and Inner Sea pawn sales go.
I'm fairly certain pawns are still selling well for Paizo (any sales associate care to confirm this assumption?) but even if they're not, I hope Paizo extends the pawn output until at least the Monster Codex pawns come out.
Again, I think Monster Codex is primed for some solid sales.
Monster Codex Box is in the new catalog!
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