paizo.com Recent Posts in Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDF Discussionpaizo.com Recent Posts in Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDF Discussion2019-11-04T22:58:41Z2019-11-04T22:58:41ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFAzouthhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#292017-03-11T07:02:07Z2017-03-11T07:02:07Z<p>Why is the prices of magic items wrong? Do I use the price in the book or on the sheet?</p>Why is the prices of magic items wrong? Do I use the price in the book or on the sheet?Azouth2017-03-11T07:02:07ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFTOZ (alias of TriOmegaZero)https://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#282014-08-25T03:10:16Z2014-08-06T02:15:03Z<p>It's a scenario for REAL Pathfinders™.</p>It's a scenario for REAL Pathfinders™.TOZ (alias of TriOmegaZero)2014-08-06T02:15:03ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFTodd Morganhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#272014-08-06T01:43:44Z2014-08-06T01:43:44Z<p>If you take out the reviews from people that complained because their characters died, this is actually a well-liked scenario...YOLO</p>If you take out the reviews from people that complained because their characters died, this is actually a well-liked scenario...YOLOTodd Morgan2014-08-06T01:43:44ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFTriOmegaZerohttps://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#262014-06-07T21:18:16Z2014-06-07T20:56:30Z<p>Brought 'em back alive, every one of them.</p>Brought 'em back alive, every one of them.TriOmegaZero2014-06-07T20:56:30ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFJohn Compton (Starfinder Senior Developer)https://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#252014-06-06T00:26:22Z2014-06-06T00:26:22Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">morbon wrote:</div><blockquote>1.) They clearly remind players that when you enter the Tapestry, that you leave a planar eddie where you came in. It states to the players that all they need to do is enter that eddie and they leave the Tapestry and return to the material plane at the spot where they entered. So, if Zay and Li entered the tapestry, how can they not exit via their own planar eddies? There is no explanation for this, and it is clearly in odds with what they remind the players so that they, and the other pathfinders, can leave the Tapestry.</blockquote><p>[Spoiler omitted]morbon wrote:1.) They clearly remind players that when you enter the Tapestry, that you leave a planar eddie where you came in. It states to the players that all they need to do is enter that eddie and they leave the Tapestry and return to the material plane at the spot where they entered. So, if Zay and Li entered the tapestry, how can they not exit via their own planar eddies? There is no explanation for this, and it is clearly in odds with what they remind the players so that they, and the...John Compton (Starfinder Senior Developer)2014-06-06T00:26:22ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFmorbonhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#242014-06-16T16:25:27Z2014-06-05T23:27:30Z<p>I'm kind of disappointed in the writing for this one, as I've seen some glaring plot holes that make no sense.</p>
<p>1.) They clearly remind players that when you enter the Tapestry, that you leave a planar eddie where you came in. It states to the players that all they need to do is enter that eddie and they leave the Tapestry and return to the material plane at the spot where they entered. So, if Zay and Li entered the tapestry, how can they not exit via their own planar eddies? There is no explanation for this, and it is clearly in odds with what they remind the players so that they, and the other pathfinders, can leave the Tapestry.</p>
<p>2.) Even more disturbing is the horrible way that Nikolai is presented. It is claimed in several places that he had fallen under the influence of the Alraune. For most of the scenario I assumed that this meant that it had some power over him that was manipulating his mind and making him more pliable. Having seen both stat blocks, the only thing I can see is the Charm Monster power, and having seen Nikolai's stat block, there is virtually no way that he would have failed the Will save to fall under its effect. So either the Alraune is great at mental manipulation, and therefore didn't need the spell like ability to control the venture captain, or Nikolai is just that pliable and arrogant that he easily fell under the manipulations of the creature because of his own arrogance. Either way, the whole thing makes no sense, and given that it is the entire driving premise of the scenario, it makes the whole thing tenuous at best.</p>I'm kind of disappointed in the writing for this one, as I've seen some glaring plot holes that make no sense.
1.) They clearly remind players that when you enter the Tapestry, that you leave a planar eddie where you came in. It states to the players that all they need to do is enter that eddie and they leave the Tapestry and return to the material plane at the spot where they entered. So, if Zay and Li entered the tapestry, how can they not exit via their own planar eddies? There is no...morbon2014-06-05T23:27:30ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFCanisDirushttps://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#232014-05-31T07:58:53Z2014-05-31T07:58:53Z<p>•finishes his first read-through•</p>
<p>Dude... just... wow. •rubs hands together gleefully and looks around for a suitable vial for player tears•</p>*finishes his first read-through*
Dude... just... wow. *rubs hands together gleefully and looks around for a suitable vial for player tears*CanisDirus2014-05-31T07:58:53ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFMike Bramnik (alias of CanisDirus)https://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#222014-05-29T17:57:09Z2014-05-29T17:57:09Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Kyle Baird wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Mike Bramnik wrote:</div><blockquote>(and I'll hope that Kyle's writing is clear enough that I can figure it out and prep it in a 24 hour time span)</blockquote>Feel free to shoot me an email if you have any questions. </blockquote><p>Will do - thanks! Looking forward to digging my teeth into this one (and then its teeth into my players)!Kyle Baird wrote:Mike Bramnik wrote:(and I'll hope that Kyle's writing is clear enough that I can figure it out and prep it in a 24 hour time span)
Feel free to shoot me an email if you have any questions. Will do - thanks! Looking forward to digging my teeth into this one (and then its teeth into my players)!Mike Bramnik (alias of CanisDirus)2014-05-29T17:57:09ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFKyle Bairdhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#212014-05-29T14:37:56Z2014-05-29T14:37:56Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Mike Bramnik wrote:</div><blockquote>(and I'll hope that Kyle's writing is clear enough that I can figure it out and prep it in a 24 hour time span)</blockquote><p>Feel free to shoot me an email if you have any questions.Mike Bramnik wrote:(and I'll hope that Kyle's writing is clear enough that I can figure it out and prep it in a 24 hour time span)
Feel free to shoot me an email if you have any questions.Kyle Baird2014-05-29T14:37:56ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFSiorhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#202014-05-29T20:26:53Z2014-05-29T03:42:45Z<p>Running this in three and a half weeks. Can't wait to add some more notches to my GM screen. I'll send a portion of player tears as tribute to Baird the following Monday.</p>Running this in three and a half weeks. Can't wait to add some more notches to my GM screen. I'll send a portion of player tears as tribute to Baird the following Monday.Sior2014-05-29T03:42:45ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFMike Bramnik (alias of CanisDirus)https://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#192014-05-28T06:48:49Z2014-05-28T06:48:49Z<p>Ack! Just noticed the release has been pushed back from Wednesday to Friday...</p>
<p>Say I was scheduled to run this on Sunday...should I inform the event coordinator that we'll need a different scenario, or do you think the Friday release date will stand?</p>
<p>(and I'll hope that Kyle's writing is clear enough that I can figure it out and prep it in a 24 hour time span) :P</p>
<p>Thanks, and sorry to bother.</p>Ack! Just noticed the release has been pushed back from Wednesday to Friday...
Say I was scheduled to run this on Sunday...should I inform the event coordinator that we'll need a different scenario, or do you think the Friday release date will stand?
(and I'll hope that Kyle's writing is clear enough that I can figure it out and prep it in a 24 hour time span) :P
Thanks, and sorry to bother.Mike Bramnik (alias of CanisDirus)2014-05-28T06:48:49ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFLiz Courts (Contributor)https://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#182014-05-08T20:54:40Z2014-05-08T20:54:40Z<p>Thanks for the catch, greysector!</p>Thanks for the catch, greysector!Liz Courts (Contributor)2014-05-08T20:54:40ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFKyle Bairdhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#172020-10-19T03:53:11Z2014-05-08T16:44:05Z<p>Meh. Words are hard.</p>Meh. Words are hard.Kyle Baird2014-05-08T16:44:05ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFGreySector (RPG Superstar 2013 Top 8)https://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#162014-05-08T13:23:39Z2014-05-08T13:23:39Z<p>There are some extraneous words in the blurb, which I have bolded below (IMO they should be removed).</p>
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Scenario Blurb wrote:</div><blockquote>Following its efforts to set up a <b>basecamp</b> in the Realm of the Mammoth Lords, the Pathfinder Society seemed ready to mobilize its forces when <b>the</b> Marcos Farabellus received troubling news: something dire had befallen the camp. What’s worse, these events resulted in the disappearance of one of the Society’s most valuable tools and <b>the disappearance of</b> two of its esteemed leaders. The PCs must investigate the ruined camp, track down the perpetrators, and recover a powerful relic to prevent this tragedy from ruining the entire expedition.</blockquote><p>Base camp is not a compound word, it is two separate words. It sounds like the original draft read, "the Pathfinder Society received troubling news..." and 'Pathfinder Society' was replaced with 'Marcos Farabellus' without removing 'the'. You could also change "and two of its esteemed leaders" to "as well as two of its esteemed leaders".
<p>So it should read:</p>
<p>Following its efforts to set up a base camp in the Realm of the Mammoth Lords, the Pathfinder Society seemed ready to mobilize its forces when Marcos Farabellus received troubling news: something dire had befallen the camp. What’s worse, these events resulted in the disappearance of one of the Society’s most valuable tools as well as two of its esteemed leaders. The PCs must investigate the ruined camp, track down the perpetrators, and recover a powerful relic to prevent this tragedy from ruining the entire expedition.</p>There are some extraneous words in the blurb, which I have bolded below (IMO they should be removed).
Scenario Blurb wrote:Following its efforts to set up a basecamp in the Realm of the Mammoth Lords, the Pathfinder Society seemed ready to mobilize its forces when the Marcos Farabellus received troubling news: something dire had befallen the camp. What’s worse, these events resulted in the disappearance of one of the Society’s most valuable tools and the disappearance of two of its esteemed...GreySector (RPG Superstar 2013 Top 8)2014-05-08T13:23:39ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFCare Baird (alias of Kyle Baird)https://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#152014-05-06T20:25:40Z2014-05-06T20:25:40Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">John Compton wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">BigNorseWolf wrote:</div><blockquote> Damn. Kyle wracked up a body count with a level 1, we're going to need a bigger cart if he's writing 7-11s.... </blockquote>How do you think he started his <a href="http://paizo.com/products/btpy8qq0?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-320-The-Rats-of-Round-Mountain-Part-I-The-Sundered-Path" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">writing career with PFS?</a> </blockquote><p>WITH BLOOD! (and Caubo's tears)John Compton wrote:BigNorseWolf wrote: Damn. Kyle wracked up a body count with a level 1, we're going to need a bigger cart if he's writing 7-11s....
How do you think he started his writing career with PFS? WITH BLOOD! (and Caubo's tears)Care Baird (alias of Kyle Baird)2014-05-06T20:25:40ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFJohn Compton (Starfinder Senior Developer)https://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#142014-05-05T21:02:16Z2014-05-05T21:02:16Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">BigNorseWolf wrote:</div><blockquote> Damn. Kyle wracked up a body count with a level 1, we're going to need a bigger cart if he's writing 7-11s.... </blockquote><p>How do you think he started his <a href="http://paizo.com/products/btpy8qq0?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-320-The-Rats-of-Round-Mountain-Part-I-The-Sundered-Path" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">writing career with PFS?</a>BigNorseWolf wrote:Damn. Kyle wracked up a body count with a level 1, we're going to need a bigger cart if he's writing 7-11s....
How do you think he started his writing career with PFS?John Compton (Starfinder Senior Developer)2014-05-05T21:02:16ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFBigNorseWolfhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#132014-05-05T20:00:50Z2014-05-05T20:00:50Z<p>Damn. Kyle wracked up a body count with a level 1, we're going to need a bigger cart if he's writing 7-11s....</p>Damn. Kyle wracked up a body count with a level 1, we're going to need a bigger cart if he's writing 7-11s....BigNorseWolf2014-05-05T20:00:50ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFDresden10589https://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#122014-05-05T13:36:09Z2014-05-05T13:36:09Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Kyle Baird wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Nari Burnsong wrote:</div><blockquote> Really wondering what tool we lost and who the esteemed leaders are. </blockquote><p>Tool: Trusty Buddy
</p>
Leaders: Mike and John </blockquote><p>NOOOOOOO!!!! Not Trusty Buddy!
<p>Really looking forward to this one, Mammoths was awesome, and I'm interested to see how it follows up.</p>Kyle Baird wrote:Nari Burnsong wrote: Really wondering what tool we lost and who the esteemed leaders are.
Tool: Trusty Buddy
Leaders: Mike and John NOOOOOOO!!!! Not Trusty Buddy! Really looking forward to this one, Mammoths was awesome, and I'm interested to see how it follows up.Dresden105892014-05-05T13:36:09ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFKyle Bairdhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#112014-05-29T03:44:18Z2014-05-03T16:50:14Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Nari Burnsong wrote:</div><blockquote> Really wondering what tool we lost and who the esteemed leaders are. </blockquote><p>Tool: Trusty Buddy
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Leaders: Mike and John</p>Nari Burnsong wrote:Really wondering what tool we lost and who the esteemed leaders are.
Tool: Trusty Buddy
Leaders: Mike and JohnKyle Baird2014-05-03T16:50:14ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFRogue Eidolon (alias of Mark Seifter)https://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#102014-06-17T00:08:56Z2014-05-02T20:38:32Z<p>Worst-case scenario (and with Kyle, you know you want to plan for that): Aram Zey, Marcos Farabellus, and the Hao Jin Tapestry?</p>Worst-case scenario (and with Kyle, you know you want to plan for that): Aram Zey, Marcos Farabellus, and the Hao Jin Tapestry?Rogue Eidolon (alias of Mark Seifter)2014-05-02T20:38:32ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFNari Burnsong (alias of alabamasax)https://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#92014-05-02T20:37:15Z2014-05-02T20:37:15Z<p>Really wondering what tool we lost and who the esteemed leaders are.</p>Really wondering what tool we lost and who the esteemed leaders are.Nari Burnsong (alias of alabamasax)2014-05-02T20:37:15ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFHimoklhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#82014-04-11T19:16:16Z2014-04-11T19:16:16Z<p>Yep, going to use this one to level my druid to 12. Should be fun, Kyle Baird always writes a nice adventure.</p>Yep, going to use this one to level my druid to 12. Should be fun, Kyle Baird always writes a nice adventure.Himokl2014-04-11T19:16:16ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFTOZ (alias of TriOmegaZero)https://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#72014-04-23T01:09:19Z2014-04-09T20:56:12Z<p>They certainly don't mean he's one of the esteemed leaders...</p>They certainly don't mean he's one of the esteemed leaders...TOZ (alias of TriOmegaZero)2014-04-09T20:56:12ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFMatthew Morris (RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8)https://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#62014-05-31T04:27:26Z2014-04-03T20:26:54Z<p>By "the disappearance of one of the Society’s most valuable tools" do they mean Drendle Drang?</p>By "the disappearance of one of the Society’s most valuable tools" do they mean Drendle Drang?Matthew Morris (RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8)2014-04-03T20:26:54ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–20: The Sealed Gate (PFRPG) PDFMark Moreland (Director of Brand Strategy)https://paizo.com/products/btpy95ea/discuss?Pathfinder-Society-Scenario-5-20-The-Sealed-Gate#52014-04-03T20:14:44Z2014-04-03T20:14:44Z<p>They can't explore Jormurdun until they lead their army from this base of operations to its gates. Then they have to actually gain entry into the chambers within. One step at a time!</p>They can't explore Jormurdun until they lead their army from this base of operations to its gates. Then they have to actually gain entry into the chambers within. One step at a time!Mark Moreland (Director of Brand Strategy)2014-04-03T20:14:44Z