
Rubius |

The subscription listing is currently incorrect. The Base Set is indeed part of the subscription, as is the Character Add-On Deck; both ship in August.
So what is the cost for shipping for the base set for Canada? I really dont want to pay 30$ in shipping for a 60$ game. I could grab it at a store instead.

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Vic Wertz wrote:The subscription listing is currently incorrect. The Base Set is indeed part of the subscription, as is the Character Add-On Deck; both ship in August.So what is the cost for shipping for the base set for Canada? I really dont want to pay 30$ in shipping for a 60$ game. I could grab it at a store instead.
The best way to find out shipping to your address is to put the base set into your shopping cart, and start the checkout process. It will calculate the cost of shipping to your address, and let you know before you confirm your order.

Rubius |

I actually tried that and it says that they will include it in a subscription, and do not give me an actual price for the shipping. But I'm guessing at 6$ the expansion pack for shipping, the box will be at least 30-40$ in shipping.
I will contact the customer service to be sure that they skip that one.

rgtdal |

Hi, Sorry of this is a total newbie question. My kids and I have really enjoyed playing the PACG and are so looking forward to Skull & Shackles. Please tell me, what is the advantage of buying through Paizo.com versus an online retailer with free shipping, or even my friendly local game store? Is it the promo cards? If so, will there be promos with the base set and character add-on deck of the new game? I'm just debating whether to buy the entire subscription through Paizo, or pick it up as it comes out, like I did for the first game. Thanks for any info ... :)

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Hi, Sorry of this is a total newbie question. My kids and I have really enjoyed playing the PACG and are so looking forward to Skull & Shackles. Please tell me, what is the advantage of buying through Paizo.com versus an online retailer with free shipping, or even my friendly local game store? Is it the promo cards? If so, will there be promos with the base set and character add-on deck of the new game? I'm just debating whether to buy the entire subscription through Paizo, or pick it up as it comes out, like I did for the first game. Thanks for any info ... :)
As far as I know, there will be a promo character that comes with the base set if you subscribe which is also available at a bunch of retailers next Saturday for Free RPG Day. There will then be a promo card each month when a new adventure deck comes out. You also get 20% off the base price of each deck if you subscribe, which offsets the cost of shipping for the subsequent adventure decks (though the shipping for the base set will probably be very high given its size and weight).

KL Sanchez |
I imagine that Paizo probably makes a bit more cash from each transaction when you buy direct, too.
The biggest personal consideration is the promo cards; you get them for no extra cost through Paizo and if you jump on board early (non-subscribers don't get them if they order through Paizo after their release, I think), though you can find some on eBay after the fact, albeit generally at a premium. They're intended to be rare and their value inflates as such.
It's just a matter of how exclusive you want your copy of the game to be, and how you balance shipping costs with the cost of the game; to some people it matters, to others it doesn't. Case in point, those who would be better served buying locally and saving 30 to 50 bucks in shipping, then re-upping their subscription for the Adventure Decks.
And still others might be collectors that got into it too late; my gaming group got me into the game, and I subscribed just in time to get Adventure Deck 6 with promo, if I'm not mistaken. If I want to be a completionist, I'll have to track down the promos on eBay, and then there's the potential issue of reconciling first print versus second print versions of the decks.
It's a matter of what's going to work for you. Some of the promos are really nice, others will come off as just a shrug to other players.
I'm personally of a mind that it benefits Paizo more to buy direct from them rather than a third party; I'm willing to believe their profit margin is better that way. A big reason I subscribed and will stick with it, though it'll cut my cost by 50% to buy RotR to date from a third party; I don't make enough coin to drop almost $300 on the complete set and then track down the promos... o_O

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From my subscription shipment list for the August shipment:
1x Pathfinder Adventure Card Game—Promo Card: Ranzak~
1x Pathfinder Adventure Card Game—Promo Card: Mogmurch~
1x Pathfinder Adventure Card Game—Promo Card: Goblin Keelhaulin'~
1x Pathfinder Adventure Card Game—Promo Card: Goblin Weidling~
We obviously know what Ranzak is at this point. Mogmurch is a goblin character from We Be Goblins, so it's likely that he's an Ally card.
Not sure about the other two... or am I? *muahahaha*

pluvia33 |

Agreed. Besides, the main reason I really loved him was because he's a goblin alchemist and I was playing as Damiel so he was like my little sidekick/apprentice. However, his ability was also pretty nice and fun to use, as the promos should be. I look forward to seeing the final version of him and the rest of the game.

Erixian |

From my subscription shipment list for the August shipment:
1x Pathfinder Adventure Card Game—Promo Card: Ranzak~
1x Pathfinder Adventure Card Game—Promo Card: Mogmurch~
1x Pathfinder Adventure Card Game—Promo Card: Goblin Keelhaulin'~
1x Pathfinder Adventure Card Game—Promo Card: Goblin Weidling~We obviously know what Ranzak is at this point. Mogmurch is a goblin character from We Be Goblins, so it's likely that he's an Ally card.
Not sure about the other two... or am I? *muahahaha*
Good call on this one. I hadn't even looked at my sub. Now that I have, wow, there are going to be quite a few promos for us to get our hands on. I think I am not interested in September's promo, though. The Owlbeartross. Now if that isn't a ridiculous flying bear monster who causes your ship bad luck when you kill it, then I might be a little disappointed. Well, if it was a ridiculous flying bear monster ally that Lini could use, then it might make up for it.

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We will announce where the 12 (yes—12!—or, actually, 14, if you consider that Ranzak is really a three-card set—or 15 if you count his rules card!) S&S promo cards will be distributed after we lock down the last couple.
I will tell you that the August shipment includes the Free RPG Day card, a July retailer kit promo card, the August retail promo card, and the promo card we'll be giving out at conventions from August through January.

pluvia33 |

Man, I'm really hoping that Mogmurch and a certain piece of goblin equipment of defending and attacking will both be retail promos. I really need to support my local store as much as I can and those are the only promos that I remember really liking a lot (other than Ranzak, which I'm fine downloading or buying on here for $4). If not, I may need to start a subscription with the character add-on deck just for the promos and sell the extra decks on eBay at cost or something.
And what exactly is a "July retailer kit promo card"? My store owner didn't know about Free RPG Day and I forgot to tell him about it soon enough so I missed out on a free physical copy of Ranzak. If the July retailer kit is something I might still have time to tell him about, that would be nice, especially if that's how you get Mogmurch. Did I mention that I REALLY want Mogmurch?

Cintra Bristol |

Yes, if there's something that we need to tell our retailers, that would be good to know.
I buy through my FLGS, but they didn't even get the promo for the last deck - they're not sure why. Makes me wonder if the distributer is keeping them back and selling them instead. So if there's a "retailer kit" - my FLGS doesn't currently know about it, and they'd really like the info.

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Yes, if there's something that we need to tell our retailers, that would be good to know.
We'll be sending the retailer kit to retailers via distribution along with Paizo's July releases. The retailers shouldn't need to do anything other than order stuff from their distributor in July.
(Also, "kit" is really not the most appropriate word. It's just a folder announcing the Pathfinder Society Adventure Card Guild Organized Play program, plus a packet of promo cards to give away.)
I buy through my FLGS, but they didn't even get the promo for the last deck - they're not sure why. Makes me wonder if the distributer is keeping them back and selling them instead.
We send the promo cards to distributors along with their initial order of each deck, and they *should* be sending them out along with retailer preorders. If your retailer is not preordering the card game, that would be one possible reason why they're not getting them. Otherwise, they should ask their distributor why they didn't get promos.

Elaine Cunningham Contributor |

Harsk is not one of the 11 characters included in the Skull and Shackles adventure path. But he is included in the ranger class deck. So your husband could either use the RotR character in Skull and Shackles (starting fresh of course) or use the version in the ranger class deck.
Are you speaking of the character expansion pack?

zafirah |
I am curious as to why each adventure path has it's own base set rather than a general base set for the game that adventure decks can be added to? We're really loving the card game, but at $160.00 from start to finish, it does feel like it's on the expensive side. It would be nice to be able to play Skull & Shackles with my original base set. It feels a bit like being asked to buy a new Core Rulebook each time our RPG group wanted to play a new AP. What was the rationale behind a new set for each AP?
Thanks,
Allison R

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I am curious as to why each adventure path has it's own base set rather than a general base set for the game that adventure decks can be added to? We're really loving the card game, but at $160.00 from start to finish, it does feel like it's on the expensive side. It would be nice to be able to play Skull & Shackles with my original base set. It feels a bit like being asked to buy a new Core Rulebook each time our RPG group wanted to play a new AP. What was the rationale behind a new set for each AP?
Thanks,
Allison R
From what I understand, Alison, the reason they made a whole new base set was because the general theme of the monsters, boons, and characters is totally different for Skull & Shackles. If you were playing S&S and ran into a grizzly bear when you're supposed to be sailing around on a ship, it doesn't make as much sense as running into a Pirate Captain or having a ship-to-ship battle. There just isn't enough overlap between the cards required to make an immersive game in each of the two adventure paths to be able to share very many of the cards.

zafirah |
From what I understand, Alison, the reason they made a whole new base set was because the general theme of the monsters, boons, and characters is totally different for Skull & Shackles. If you were playing S&S and ran into a grizzly bear when you're supposed to be sailing around on a ship, it doesn't make as much sense as running into a Pirate Captain or having a ship-to-ship battle. There just isn't enough overlap between the cards required to make an immersive game in each of the two adventure paths to be able to share very many of the cards.
Thanks for the response, I can't deny that make sense. I do hope in time they will come out with adventure packs that can applied to one of the existing base sets!
Thanks,
Allison R

pluvia33 |

Personally, I would say unless you have a gaming budget that can handle getting both without reservations, go ahead and wait for Skull & Shackles to come and get that first. The first set is still great and if you're still hungry for more after playing Skull & Shackles, definitely get the first set when you can. Just a few things to keep in mind:
-The new set is likely to come out the gate with some more refined rules and can potentially be better put together after learning from the first game.
-The new set will support organized play if that's something you're interested in, but it doesn't look like the old set will be incorporated into that system in any way.
-The new set has a pirate theme complete with ships and guns. The old set on the other hand is more standard fantasy so one or the other might be more suited to your tastes.
-If you're a completist, it may be difficult or nearly impossible to get all of the promo cards for the old set at this point without paying a pretty penny for them while with the new set you can start fresh and do everything you can to get them all.
-All of the chapters of the old set are out NOW. Although they are increasing the release speed with the new set, you'll still be waiting a month for each new chapter. Depending on how much you like the game and how often you are able to play it, having a complete set available to you can be a very good thing to have.

amir90 |

Personally, I would say unless you have a gaming budget that can handle getting both without reservations, go ahead and wait for Skull & Shackles to come and get that first. The first set is still great and if you're still hungry for more after playing Skull & Shackles, definitely get the first set when you can. Just a few things to keep in mind:
-The new set is likely to come out the gate with some more refined rules and can potentially be better put together after learning from the first game.
-The new set will support organized play if that's something you're interested in, but it doesn't look like the old set will be incorporated into that system in any way.
-The new set has a pirate theme complete with ships and guns. The old set on the other hand is more standard fantasy so one or the other might be more suited to your tastes.
-If you're a completist, it may be difficult or nearly impossible to get all of the promo cards for the old set at this point without paying a pretty penny for them while with the new set you can start fresh and do everything you can to get them all.
-All of the chapters of the old set are out NOW. Although they are increasing the release speed with the new set, you'll still be waiting a month for each new chapter. Depending on how much you like the game and how often you are able to play it, having a complete set available to you can be a very good thing to have.
I see. I will have to think about it good.
I will probably not buy all the expanions on the get go, that would be too expensive for me.
Elaine Cunningham Contributor |

No, these things. They are rather awesomely awesome and you should buy them all.
Ah. Looks like this would do the trick. Thanks for the info!

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We've been playing Rise of the Runelords, which introduced my husband to the world of RPG games. In the process, he has developed a deep fondness for Harsk (though he mocks the notion of Harsk as a tea-drinker.) So I must ask: Will Harsk be available as a PC in Skulls and Shackles?
Elaine:
You could just play the Harsk character from the Rise of the Runelords set in your Skull & Shackles game. The one draw back is that Harsk isn't optimized for life on the sea like the cards we include in the set, but if a grumpy land-loving dwarf having to spend time on the open ocean appeals to your husband, then there is nothing stopping him from playing Harsk!
-Lisa

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I do hope in time they will come out with adventure packs that can applied to one of the existing base sets!
Thanks,
Allison R
Allison:
You might want to check out our organized play program, the Pathfinder Adventure Card Guild, which will be launching with Skull & Shackles. There will be a new scenario released each week through local gaming stores that will use the cards from your Skull & Shackles set. At the end of each month, these scenarios will be bundles up and released here online for anybody to buy and play. You will effectively get almost double the scenarios that was available for Rise of the Runelords.
-Lisa

Corrin Avatan |
Does anybody know if Paizo stated if they were changing the internal layout of the box? I have the full ACG set, and because they dedicated to much space for the actual expansion boxes themselves, it's hard to keep the cards in their "spots" so to speak... For example, in-play, my Monsters deck is nearly filling the entire monsters area, and I have them in sleeves, so it's not easy to put them back in the expansion boxes (especially when it's not practical to do so...)

Hawkmoon269 |

I don't think it will change much, other than accommodating a section for ship cards. Your problem is from the fact that it isn't designed to accommodate sleeved cards. Ultra Pro is producing an adventure case for PACG that will accommodate an entire adventure path in sleeves. It isn't out yet, but hopefully it will be soon.

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I guess my problem is that the box pretty much dedicates nearly a third of it's space for holding the expansion boxes... which for everyone I've seen play, are empty, even if they don't use sleeves.
Really that is weird. I put each of the boxes in there as I got them. Before it was filled with the boxes though I had 6 sets of dice and all of the iconic miniatures I had for each of the characters. Now it only has room for the miniatures.

Corrin Avatan |
Corrin Avatan wrote:I guess my problem is that the box pretty much dedicates nearly a third of it's space for holding the expansion boxes... which for everyone I've seen play, are empty, even if they don't use sleeves.Really that is weird. I put each of the boxes in there as I got them. Before it was filled with the boxes though I had 6 sets of dice and all of the iconic miniatures I had for each of the characters. Now it only has room for the miniatures.
I don't mean the space is empty. They are using the slots to hold the actual boxes the expansions came from, but the expansion boxes themselves are empty.

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brad2411 wrote:I don't mean the space is empty. They are using the slots to hold the actual boxes the expansions came from, but the expansion boxes themselves are empty.Corrin Avatan wrote:I guess my problem is that the box pretty much dedicates nearly a third of it's space for holding the expansion boxes... which for everyone I've seen play, are empty, even if they don't use sleeves.Really that is weird. I put each of the boxes in there as I got them. Before it was filled with the boxes though I had 6 sets of dice and all of the iconic miniatures I had for each of the characters. Now it only has room for the miniatures.
Ok that I understand in fact thats what I did up until I reset the box to start over

StanC |
It's looking like there are actually going to be *5* introductory scenarios in addition to the 5 that make up the first chapter of the Adventure Path.
Yes, the cardbacks are the same, and you should have no problem mixing and matching cards from the two sets.
Will there be a way do differentiate the cards between the two sets, since the backs will be the same ?

Hawkmoon269 |

All cards will say what adventure path (or class deck) they came from in the upper left corner on front of the card. If you look at a card from Rise of the Runelords you'll notice the RotR logo. Here is a sample card from S&S, you'll notice the logo for it too.

Duncan7291 |

I just got the promo card from my local shop:
Mogmurch (Goblin Alchemist)
Ally P
Check to Acquire: Charisma Diplomacy 7 or Ranged Craft 5
Powers: Recharge this card to add 2d6 and the fire trait to any check. If at least 1d6 rolled on that check is a 1, you are dealt 1d4-1 fire damage. Discard this card to succeed at your Craft check or to explore your location; each character at your location is dealt 1 fire damage."
"Things go boom when Mogmurch throws,
Much more fun than using bows.
Sometimes where the boom boom blows
Is not my fault-that's how it goes" - Mogmurch's song.

Hawkmoon269 |

If you click on "My Subscription" you should see what the cost will be. You might have gotten used to the cost of the adventure decks ($16) and shipping for them ($6 for me). This is going to cost $48 for the Base Set, plus $16 for the Character Add-on Deck and much more shipping ($20 for me). So they are just trying to remind you that the first part of each adventure path costs much more in terms of products and shipping than the other 5 adventure decks.