Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–08: The Confirmation (PFRPG) PDF

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A Pathfinder Society Scenario designed for level 1-2.

Almost all Pathfinders undergo extensive training for three or more years to learn the tricks of the trade, and their last test before graduating from the ranks of the initiates to the status of a full Pathfinder agent is the Confirmation, a special research project that involves considerable fieldwork and is designed to simulate the initiates' future work as a Pathfinder. Even the noteworthy field commissioned agents sometimes participate in such trials as a way to familiarize themselves with the Pathfinder Society’s rules and expectations. Although Confirmation is typically an individual affair, the society recently discovered a site on the Isle of Kortos that would be perfect for initiates but perhaps too dangerous to handle alone. Successfully uncovering this site’s secrets will not only contribute to the society’s body of knowledge but shape the exciting careers ahead for each of the prospective agents.

Written by Kyle Baird.

This scenario is designed for play in Pathfinder Society Organized Play, but can easily be adapted for use with any world. This scenario is compliant with the Open Game License (OGL) and is suitable for use with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game.

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An intro that's big on heart, light on substance

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Played in a PbP game, coming at it from the perspective of a first "real PFS" experience (PFS rules, random group of players).

I loved this scenario from the perspective of introducing us to being a Pathfinder. There were ample reminders to take notes and be prepared for anything, and the bonus free consumables gave us a toolbag of tricks to use when we needed them. Janira is a fun character. The guidance from her is likely invaluable to players new to Pathfinder, and her enthusiasm is written so strongly that you can't help but RP along with her.

The concept behind the adventure seems interesting. Not only are you becoming confirmed Pathfinders, but there are mysterious gillmen hiding out in caves and conducting rituals.

Unfortunately, the meat of the adventure inside the cave is ruined because...

Adventure spoilers:
The plot pans out into nothing much.
The gillman you locate can be RP'd with, but doesn't reveal anything exciting. The cave is just a place some gillmen come to chill. Heck, the source of the recent safety problems has been dealt with before the party even gets there. Plus, along the way you deal with bland and unmotivating threats that reveal next to nothing about the cave or the story behind the necromancer. Its like the internal part of the cave is one big handwave to say: "I guess you had an adventure in there?"

The Aroden bit went over most of our heads and didn't really feel like a revelation or important in any way. Just another piece of vaguely notable scenery that we dutifully took notes on and had no reason to spare any more thoughts on.

Of course, the encounter after leaving the cave was awesome. Swingy, but with just enough opportunities to play tactically (at least in our group that lacked a 2-hander wielder). Our Janira went down early and we had a bit of nailbiting with if she had managed to stabilize. That the writing manages to draw you in to care about her in such a short time is a testament to the author. :>


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Solid introduction to Pathfinder Society format

****( )

Great adventure - ran it with 6 1st level heroes at our local game shop. It was my first time running a Pathfinder Society game, and The Confirmation was a solid 4 hour session. The players enjoyed it, there are a moderate variety of challenges, and the PCs get to meet and befriend a great NPC (hopefully we'll see more recurring NPC characters so that Chronicle Boons can be used!)

All in all an enjoyable session. Combat is probably a 4/10 for difficulty, which is A-OK. One important note, keep in mind this is an introductory adventure for a lot of new players, so if you've got to fudge the dice to avoid killing PCs, please do it - I remember reading that when new players lose their characters at a low level, they never return to RPG games, and write off the whole domain as 'not something they enjoy'.


A great introduction, but flawed as an evergreen

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Roughly 18 months after I played my first PFS-scenario, I got to play this evergreen for the first time. I feel like an actual Pathfinder now, which is strange given the time it took me to get round to this. Looking back, I neither like nor dislike the scenario.

For a new player, it's a great scenario. You get to learn what a typical scenario would be like and it's pretty straightforward. It's a good introduction and it seems to be easy to prepare and run for a GM as well. For a more experienced player, it's a bit unfortunate that it lacks a story a little. You get various small arcs that create a story together, but it feels a bit like a patchwork of things.

Furthermore I have to say that having the BBEG fight potentially at the start – which is something my characters would opt for every single time as you don't leave a friend behind – it makes the rest of the encounters feel like a 'is that all?' kind of thing. It's a little disappointing in that sense, giving the whole a scenario an anticlimactic vibe.

My last issue is that I just can't see it be fun as an evergreen. It's too straightforward and lacks variety to simply play and appreciate it again. I'm sure the creatures will change, but if that's the only thing that will be different, it's just not enough for me personally. The only two reasons I can think of that would make me want to play it again, would be the boons on the chronicle or if I'd make it a legal table for others to enjoy. It's a good and enjoyable scenario, but not really worth repeating. As it's an evergreen, I feel obliged to lower my final rating by one star, leaving it with 3 out of 5 stars.


Great Intro

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Excellent intro scenario for PFS, and Janira is an awesome NPC. This would be a solid 5 star scenario if it:

1) Didn't rely upon one flip-mat that is no longer in print, and secondly have gigantic custom maps to draw/print. This is a standard intro scenario and the necessary resources to play it should have been easy.

2) Either this or the Wounded Wisp should get a quick edit to fix the simple dependency between the two.


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Announced for November!

Grand Lodge

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"designed for level 1" ... "Written by Kyle Baird"

I hope you all have your replacement level 1 character concepts ready to go. You'll need them more quickly than you planned.

Shadow Lodge

Is this scenario replayable?


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Avatar-1 wrote:
Is this scenario replayable?

Yes. It is designed to offer a unique experience every time you play it.

The Exchange

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Kyle Baird wrote:
Yes. It is designed to offer a unique experience every time you play it.

1st time) Experience a greataxe crit!

2nd time) Experience falling in a 60' pit!
3rd time) Experience sleep while swimming!
4th time) Experience death by box text!
5th time) OK, seriously, a Glabrezu in a level 1 scenario?


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It's only a "young" Glabrezu.

Paizo Employee Developer

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I thought it was pronounced nal-FESH-nee...

*Checks notes*


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That's only in the hard-mode option, John.

Paizo Employee Developer

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Hard mode would be such a horrible option for this scenario, and I hadn't even considered it before. I...I think it's safer if it stays that way.

Liberty's Edge

Paizo Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Tales Subscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

Though I am happy that there is a new Tier 1 Scenario, I was hoping it would be a Bonus Scenario like First Steps was.

I am not a fan of a Very Limited in level selection scenario taking up one of the 26 scenarios for the season.

I am sure I will have the same problem once a new retirement scenario comes out.

Shadow Lodge

Pathfinder Card Game Subscriber

Congrats Kyle! Can't wait to see what you've done with it.

Liberty's Edge

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Modules, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Maps, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

I wonder how many times we will have to replay this before we survive?

Parties still shudder from the mission to Rats Mountain...

;-)

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Cards, Modules, Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Roleplaying Guild, Tales Subscriber; Pathfinder Deluxe Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Legends Subscriber

I am looking forward to this scenario. I like the idea of it being different every time.

I also would like to see First steps Part one In service to lore to be kept around as well. There are some fun little missions in that scenario.

Grand Lodge

Is this going to replace First Steps Part 1, or will that remain playable?

Paizo Employee Developer

I am aware of no plans to remove First Steps, Part 1.

Liberty's Edge

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A replayable scenario that is designed to be different with every replay? Kyle, are you wearing your fedora and carrying a bullwhip? Because you just discovered the holy grail!

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2015 Top 16

hmmm... very interesting.

Shadow Lodge

My question (which probably won't be answered until the scenario comes out and we get a look at the chronicles) is this: since part of the lore of Golarion is that upon the completion of a Pathfinder's Confirmation he receives a wayfinder (as written in the Pathfinder Society Primer) do we get a free wayfinder upon the completion of this scenario?


"Reply hazy try again."

Shadow Lodge

Do we get a free wayfinder upon the completion of this scenario?

Liberty's Edge

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I don't think trying again will actually help...

Grand Lodge

John, Mike Brock's Post about first steps back in April:

Michael Brock wrote:

At the start of Season 5, parts 2 and 3 will be retired. Part 1 will remain an active scenario. Once we have a new Tier 1 only scenario in place, part 1 will then be retired. It is my goal to have 1-2 Tier 1 only scenarios placed on the regular publishing schedule for PFS and published each season, that capture the flavor of the season. This won't be specifically tied to a certain faction so they can remain an evergreen product.

You won't see the first one of these until early 2014 and is the reason we are keeping part 1 of First Steps live until tha time. In the future, I hope to have one of these release as a Gen Con release.


Avatar-1 wrote:
Do we get a free wayfinder upon the completion of this scenario?

"cannot predict now"


Will this product be free like the First Step series?

Shadow Lodge

Pathfinder Card Game Subscriber

Well, considering it already shows a $3.99 price up there in addition to it being one of their regular monthly releases instead of an extra, I doubt it.

Grand Lodge RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

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Do PCs who complete this get a free wayfinder?

Sovereign Court Owner - Enchanted Grounds, President/Owner - Enchanted Grounds

TheInnsmouthLooker wrote:

John, Mike Brock's Post about first steps back in April:

Michael Brock wrote:

At the start of Season 5, parts 2 and 3 will be retired. Part 1 will remain an active scenario. Once we have a new Tier 1 only scenario in place, part 1 will then be retired. It is my goal to have 1-2 Tier 1 only scenarios placed on the regular publishing schedule for PFS and published each season, that capture the flavor of the season. This won't be specifically tied to a certain faction so they can remain an evergreen product.

You won't see the first one of these until early 2014 and is the reason we are keeping part 1 of First Steps live until tha time. In the future, I hope to have one of these release as a Gen Con release.

Hmm. This kinda looks like a retraction:

John Compton wrote:
I am aware of no plans to remove First Steps, Part 1.

<sniff>

Kinda smells like a retraction.

Perhaps it's a retraction? :-D


Jiggy wrote:
Do PCs who complete this get a free wayfinder?

"Concentrate and ask again."

Grand Lodge RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Kyle Baird wrote:
Jiggy wrote:
Do PCs who complete this get a free wayfinder?
"Concentrate and ask again."

Concentration:1d20 + 15 ⇒ (8) + 15 = 23

Do PCs who complete this get a free wayfinder?


"Ask again later."

Grand Lodge RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Kyle Baird wrote:
"Ask again later."

*tick-tock*

*tick-tock*

Do PCs who complete this get a free wayfinder?


Jiggy wrote:
Do PCs who complete this get a free wayfinder?

None of your PCs will.

Shadow Lodge

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You can't kill 'em all, Kyle.


TOZ wrote:
You can't kill 'em all, Kyle.

One can certainly try.

Grand Lodge RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Long ago, Kyle, you promised to come kill my tiefling cleric.

I'm still waiting.

Paizo Employee Developer

Jiggy wrote:

Long ago, Kyle, you promised to come kill my tiefling cleric.

I'm still waiting.

That's easily remedied. A scenario just needs to involve a dead Thomas, the Tiefling Hero who has an axe in his back. The axe's blade is inscribed with a single word: Baird. If a fake Thomas should happen to play that scenario (the real Thomas, the Tiefling Hero is dead, remember?), the adventure implodes, killing off the impostor and all other Pathfinders in a 5-mile radius.

Gotta say, though, I know somebody would be relieved yet saddened were your cleric to take his place in an upcoming adventure.

Grand Lodge

Liz Courts wrote:
Announced for November!

Is this scenario only for "brand new" first level characters (i.e. never played before). Or you play any first level character (i.e. one with 1 or 2 scenarios under their belt?).

Thanks.

Nathan Meyers
NYC PFS GM/Player


Natertot wrote:
Liz Courts wrote:
Announced for November!

Is this scenario only for "brand new" first level characters (i.e. never played before). Or you play any first level character (i.e. one with 1 or 2 scenarios under their belt?).

Thanks.

Nathan Meyers
NYC PFS GM/Player

It's for any first level character and we're discussing options with 2nd level characters.


It would be nice to have a subtier for 2's.

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Card Game, Class Deck, Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

It sounds like it would be a really weird story for 2's. "Yeah, I've already been on a couple missions for the Pathfinders, but now I'm really going to become one!"

Sovereign Court

If anything, it could be like a mentorship or something? Sounds like a really metagame-y concept, but it could maybe (in theory) work.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Card Game Subscriber; Pathfinder Comics Subscriber

Just think of it like a flashback.

Dark Archive

Hope this is out on the 27th. I hoping to run in on Thanksgiving post turkey.

Silver Crusade

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John Compton wrote:
Gotta say, though, I know somebody would be relieved yet saddened were your cleric to take his place in an upcoming adventure.

...You mean someone in an upcoming adventure ends up with an axe in his back that's inscribed "Baird"? That's a little hard on the fourth wall, don't you think? ;)

Grand Lodge

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Thomas, the Tiefling Hero! wrote:
John Compton wrote:
Gotta say, though, I know somebody would be relieved yet saddened were your cleric to take his place in an upcoming adventure.

...You mean someone in an upcoming adventure ends up with an axe in his back that's inscribed "Baird"? That's a little hard on the fourth wall, don't you think? ;)

Baird's axe ignores the fourth wall's hardness.

Paizo Employee Developer

Thomas, the Tiefling Hero! wrote:
John Compton wrote:
Gotta say, though, I know somebody would be relieved yet saddened were your cleric to take his place in an upcoming adventure.

...You mean someone in an upcoming adventure ends up with an axe in his back that's inscribed "Baird"? That's a little hard on the fourth wall, don't you think? ;)

Just a dead cleric. The exact cause of death is as of yet undetermined.

Shadow Lodge

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Iammars wrote:
It sounds like it would be a really weird story for 2's. "Yeah, I've already been on a couple missions for the Pathfinders, but now I'm really going to become one!"

That would be for the pathfinders who received field commissions instead of the ones who went through the three years of training.

Silver Crusade

John Compton wrote:
Thomas, the Tiefling Hero! wrote:
John Compton wrote:
Gotta say, though, I know somebody would be relieved yet saddened were your cleric to take his place in an upcoming adventure.

...You mean someone in an upcoming adventure ends up with an axe in his back that's inscribed "Baird"? That's a little hard on the fourth wall, don't you think? ;)

Just a dead cleric. The exact cause of death is as of yet undetermined.

Cause of death would probably be my 1/day ability to jump between my ally and an attacker. ;)

Paizo Employee Developer

Mazlith wrote:
Hope this is out on the 27th. I hoping to run in on Thanksgiving post turkey.

With the few exceptions I know of based on unforeseen circumstances or early, selective distribution for major convention preparation, we release the month's scenarios for purchase on the last Wednesday of the month. I have no reason to believe that it will be any different for November.

Silver Crusade

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I have declared, that this scenario will be my 150th game session of Pathfinder Society.

I think it's fitting. After three years, and 149 sessions, it's time indeed for a confirmation of my own.

But now I have to find people to play this game, Kyle Baird has a negative reputation in my realm, so they may not be too inclined to run all their new shiny boon characters through it. :D

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