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Ultimate Psionics is just that—the ultimate book on psionics, combining nearly all of the material in Psionics Unleashed and Psionics Expanded into a single hardcover book. But not only does Ultimate Psionics contain existing content, over seventy pages of brand new material has been added (separately released as Psionics Augmented for those who already have Psionics Unleashed and Psionics Expanded), giving more character options, advice for game masters on using psionics, and even an example of completely altering the theme of psionics from the power of the mind to runic magic, to help you understand how easy it is to change the feel of psionics without changing the system so that it can easily fit into any campaign.

Ultimate Psionics is an over-400 page hardcover book that includes:

  • Ten psionic races, including the brand new forgeborn and noral, with racial archetypes, advanced racial options, and more
  • Ten psionic classes from the psion and soulknife to the aegis and vitalist, giving everything you need to have an all-psionic party
  • Psionic skills and feats, including over forty brand new psionic feats such as Assassin's Venom, Deep Focus, and Telepathic Link
  • Over 100 pages of psionic powers, including 0th level psionic talents new powers like T’Nail’s Ardent Legion
  • Nineteen psionic prestige classes, including the brand new Dark Tempest prestige class
  • More psionic items than could ever be found in any treasure horde, including legendary items like the Heartstaff and the Dancing Robes of Sharatwan and over 10 pages of brand new psionic items like the greater psicrystal staff, the tactician's chessboard, and more.
  • An entire section for advice and tips for game masters on introducing and using psionics, including the most commonly encountered rules mistakes, how to handle transparency, and variant themes if you don't want mental power and prefer psionics to be a form of magic.
  • And much more!

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At the time of writing this review there are 10 reviews of it already. Plus each expansion has reviews and the first product has 13 reviews. There are threads on Paizo's forums and other places on the internet. The book is often on the top ten list of Paizo's third party sales. There are arguments about the power level and articles about it and the publishers have two more entire subsystems coming out with a Kickstarter money, forums of fans and is often quoted as the only third party publisher allowed at certain tables.

What the heck am I supposed to say after all that?! I can't review this. Its probably the most acclaimed third party product in all of Pathfinder. Everybody loves it, and if you don't you probably aren't going to be too thrilled with any other third party product or someone is going to come along to explain why you not liking it makes you a dirty poopy-head, and they're right! Well if you're okay with the very idea of psionics to begin with.

What's going on in this book is that it's a compilation of the psionic stuff that came out before it making for a fat book rivaling the Pathfinder Core Rulebook, detailing new races, new classes, magic items, feats, archetypes and prestige classes all supporting psionics. In fact it might as well be the core rulebook for psionics. If you get this book you have pretty much a core rulebook full of information on an entire class of magic and enough classes and subclasses and prestige classes and options to keep you busy for years.

But what are psionics? In a nutshell it's 'mind magic'. If you want to make a crystal ball massaging gypsy curse dealing psychic you're going to be disappointed. This is more like Esper or Psychic Pokemon variety mind magic making it feel kind of like psuedo-scientific ESP stuff than talking to spirits or new age tarot reading. But these guys aren't just bending spoons, they're generating mind-light sabers and shooting psychic lasers. This is all centered around a new way to cast their spell-like 'Powers' with a pool of points representing their psionic energy. Its a neat system, especially if you're tired of spell slots, but not each of the classes in here are based around the powers. you get a few that use their mind to do other things like create armor and weapons, plus you get some feats so anyone can tap into their mind and do a few tricks. Its a new world, a whole new way to play. Once you crack it open and start playing it's hard to dismiss. Its just a cool bunch of options.

So why did I buy this? What made me go "okay, I'm going to use this." Well for one you can see most of the options on d20pfsrd.com, which helps you figure out if you think this system is more broken than a core rulebook wizard. I went ahead and did the legwork of comparing the best powers to Magic spells and how well they can cast and found powers to be overall weaker than magic with superior casting options but way less variety so the strongest psionic class comes off about as powerful as a well made Sorcerer. I also liked having the option of presenting casting that felt less ole-timey for when I wanted to run a steampunk or space campaign. It's also the most 'complete' alternate system experience I've ever seen, and trying it with newer players they were able to pick it up much and understand it faster than vancian casting. So it won me over. Five stars all around. You just cant lose with this book.


Words can't describe.

*****

This book is absolutely amazing. Dreamscarred Press show us once again that they're the undisputed masters of flavorful, balanced psionics. This beautiful book has a place of honor on my shelf right next to my Core Rulebook, and if I could only pick one rules supplement to use in a campaign, it would be this one by far.


The Essential Psionic Book

*****

It's been said a hundred times, but Dreamscarred Press creates fantastic products. Where they shine the most is in their psionic material. This book is *the* book for psionics, hands down.

I don't have anything to add that's not already been said. So I'll keep this very short. This book's cover was done by Wayne Reynolds, appropriate for a book of this quality. However, plenty of the artwork in this book is less than stellar. I expected more from a giant of a 3pp company (as giant as they get, anyways).

Despite some of the underwhelming art, the text inside is filled with as much psionic crunch and flavor you could ever ask for. There's a reason this is the go to book for psionics. It has absolutely everything you need and more. If you're thinking about adding psionics to your game, don't wait. Get this book now!


Awesome Book!

*****

Gotta say that having it in my hand makes it even more impressive than the PDF I fell in love with. Now that I can't rely on PDF word search I am really impressed by the formatting in the book.

Everything is easy to find. When I have a question it's very easy to find an appropriate answer by perusing the ToC. The title "Ultimate Psionics" really applies as just about all the character concepts I could want as a Pdionic can be made from all the Base Classes, Archetypes, and Prestige Classes detailed!

The only downside was that my mailman stuffed it too roughly into my mailbox and it bent in some of the back cover's corner. The damage is pretty minor and impossible to see on my bookshelf, so I'm not getting too down over it.

The only singular problem with this book is that the pages are a bit more fragile than I would like.

Edit: After about a year of using this book on the table I can say that it still deserves 5 stars, excellent book.


THE Definitive Psionics Book

****( )

This won't be a long review, because I can't compete with Endzeitgeist's excellent reviews. It's really a small list of glitches that affected my impressions of the books.

First, the good stuff. Fixes to original base classes are great and were necessary, as well as changing some of the feats and the addition of 0 level powers. All good. The expanded list of powers is amazing, and the new classes, for the most part, are pretty interesting. More on that in a second.

The artwork is good, not stellar but, but good. My only gripe with it is once again a female ophiduan was shown with hair and breasts. They're reptiles for Pete's sake, and it clearly says in their description they are hairless. Grr.

There are an uncomfortable number of typos and some awkward sentence structuring, but it's easy enough to extrapolate what's being said in each case. I wish that they'd proofread things a bit more thoroughly.

My biggest "gripe" is the Dread seems unnecessary in my book. It's focus is very narrow and would've made a better psion prestige class, in my opinion, just as the marksman would've been a better psychic warrior PrC.

Overall I'm going to give the book 4 stars, largely for the truly amazing amount of work that went into it. But the glaring typos and curvaceous ophiduan really bugged me.

Addendum. I received two copies 4 days apart with the same order number, though I only purchased one. I've been in touch with Paizo Customer Service and as soon as I get paid I'll be sending the extra copy back so that someone else might enjoy it.


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Now available for preorder!


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No PDF bundle?


Zaister wrote:
No PDF bundle?

Given that the final line of the description says you'll get a digital copy of the book if you pre-order the hard cover, I would assume that they're holding off on announcing a bundle price to try and get as many people pre-ordering as possible. Could be that a PDF and hard cover bundle would be announced later on, but I still imagine it would cost more than the pre-order with a free digital copy would.


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Oops, I didn't see that. Question withdrawn, then. :)

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I can't set up a PDF bundle until the PDF is ready, so offering the PDF free to those who preorder is the compromise that Dreamscarred Jeremy and I came up with. :)


I am totally going to start saving for the full color.


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Liz Courts wrote:
I can't set up a PDF bundle until the PDF is ready, so offering the PDF free to those who preorder is the compromise that Dreamscarred Jeremy and I came up with. :)

Sounds good enough to me!


*Faints*
*Stands up*
*Faints again*

Silver Crusade

Duuuuuuuuuuude.

Thank you Dreamscarred Press. Cannot wait to grab the full-color hardcover.


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As a Kickstarter backer of this, I can tell you its epic. It's a lot more than just the two previous psionics titles brought together. I'd guess at least a third of it will be new material, and the art is pretty good too.

Any idea about when this will come out though? The original date was nixed because of all the (amazing) additions we got through stretch goals, and they've not said anything about a new one (that I remember).

Publisher, Dreamscarred Press

Azazyll wrote:
Any idea about when this will come out though? The original date was nixed because of all the (amazing) additions we got through stretch goals, and they've not said anything about a new one (that I remember).

Simply put, because we don't have one... so it's a moving target.

With the final new archetype to enter Beta playtesting this week, we're getting very close to having all the new material done. We're working on the last three legendary items (one has been posted for backers, another just got posted in our private backer-only forum, and the last Andreas is writing up the history for and should get posted this week.)

The past two weeks have been rapid-fire in making progress, so while I certainly won't commit to having the PDF done by September, it's not outside the realm of possibility.

NOTE: that's PDF being done... I don't know how long the print run is going to take since this will be our first time using this printer (our normal printer doesn't do hardcover.)


Gods, this and Kobold Press's spellbook will make me go broke.


Fabius Maximus wrote:
Gods, this and Kobold Press's spellbook will make me go broke.

Fabulously, gloriously broke.


Ooo, I can't wait! [Kickstarter supporter!]

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Paizo promised us psionic material, they even have mention of it in their campaign book. However, they have failed to produce one after so many years.

I wish they would use Dreamscarred Press's stuff for their APs and other materials. Why don't they team up? I see them using 3rd party material in some of their APs concerning monsters, but they seem afraid to touch psionics.

Please, Paizo, use their stuff for your setting. It's only fitting.


Markolius Craggmorn wrote:

Paizo promised us psionic material, they even have mention of it in their campaign book. However, they have failed to produce one after so many years.

I wish they would use Dreamscarred Press's stuff for their APs and other materials. Why don't they team up? I see them using 3rd party material in some of their APs concerning monsters, but they seem afraid to touch psionics.

Please, Paizo, use their stuff for your setting. It's only fitting.

Where did Paizo ever promise psionics. They'be mentioned that its something that could be looked at, and some ideas on how to handle it, but that's it. Currently there are psychic monsters etc, they just use spell-like abilities. I recommend having a look around the messageboards, there have been numerous threads on why Paizo won't use these rules and what sort of design philosophy they'll be using (Vancian casting seems to be the consensus).

I'm a backer for this project, and I look forward to getting it, but I'll be honest that it will probably rarely se use. It's more of a flick through for ideas book for me. Psionics (or psychic magic as James Jacobs has been referring to it) will only become common in my games if Paizo domake their own version

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Markolius Craggmorn wrote:
Paizo promised us psionic material, they even have mention of it in their campaign book. However, they have failed to produce one after so many years.

They refer to, "an unusual magic of the open mind." That's not calling it "psionics." My source is the Inner Sea World Guide, so older (Read: 3.5 Material) might actually say Psionics.

Making a passing reference to Psionics in a book is no more a promise than making a passive reference to Hermea or Kami Lords. Yeah, they exist, but that doesn't mean we'll ever see material based on that. Sometimes extra tid-bits are just that: plot hooks. You're coming off as entitled.

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I wish they would use Dreamscarred Press's stuff for their APs and other materials. Why don't they team up? I see them using 3rd party material in some of their APs concerning monsters, but they seem afraid to touch psionics.

Dragon's Demand apparently had a Psionic monster written by the Dreamscarred Press guys in it. I don't recall which one, but I'm sure someone will quote this post and fill you in. The point being that Paizo does use 3PP material A) when its appropriate and B) when they like the concept. They don't have a magic quota of 3PP stuff to put in their Adventure Paths.

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Please, Paizo, use their stuff for your setting. It's only fitting.

I don't think you get to make that judgment call anywhere but outside of your home version of Golarion.

Edit: AH! Ninja'd by Tinkergoth! ITS LIKE HE READ MY MIND .... Except on the whole, "I'll never use this," thing. I play in Homebrew and run my own Homebrew. Although even if I ran Golarion, I would still probably use Dreamscarred's stuff for Vuldra adventures.

Spoiler:
This is the Psionics thread. He totally did.

Regardless, totally looking forward to this product. Like many others, I'm going to try to save up for the Full-Color version! I am so looking forward to giving this product a 5 star review, all of the previews Jeremy has been sharing have been stunning.


Alexander Augunas wrote:
Markolius Craggmorn wrote:
Paizo promised us psionic material, they even have mention of it in their campaign book. However, they have failed to produce one after so many years.

They refer to, "an unusual magic of the open mind." That's not calling it "psionics." My source is the Inner Sea World Guide, so older (Read: 3.5 Material) might actually say Psionics.

Making a passing reference to Psionics in a book is no more a promise than making a passive reference to Hermea or Kami Lords. Yeah, they exist, but that doesn't mean we'll ever see material based on that. Sometimes extra tid-bits are just that: plot hooks. You're coming off as entitled.

Quote:
I wish they would use Dreamscarred Press's stuff for their APs and other materials. Why don't they team up? I see them using 3rd party material in some of their APs concerning monsters, but they seem afraid to touch psionics.

Dragon's Demand apparently had a Psionic monster written by the Dreamscarred Press guys in it. I don't recall which one, but I'm sure someone will quote this post and fill you in. The point being that Paizo does use 3PP material A) when its appropriate and B) when they like the concept. They don't have a magic quota of 3PP stuff to put in their Adventure Paths.

Quote:
Please, Paizo, use their stuff for your setting. It's only fitting.

I don't think you get to make that judgment call anywhere but outside of your home version of Golarion.

Edit: AH! Ninja'd by Tinkergoth! ITS LIKE HE READ MY MIND .... Except on the whole, "I'll never use this," thing. I play in Homebrew and run my own Homebrew. Although even if I ran Golarion, I would still probably use Dreamscarred's stuff for Vuldra adventures.

** spoiler omitted **

Regardless, totally looking forward to this product. Like many others, I'm going to try to save up for the Full-Color version! I am so looking forward to giving this product a 5 star review, all of the previews Jeremy has...

I normally run homebrew, but my group has been running adventure paths for a while now. Even with homebrew I tend to stick to official Pathfinder stuff, with the very occasional 3PP content added. Makes things easier. That said, if my players push hard enough and make a compelling argument I'll often allow new content, so this could still sneak in.

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Half of my players (I GM two groups) never ask me for 3PP stuff, even knowing that I'll probably okay it considering I am a Third-Party author.

Funny how that works sometimes.

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Markolius Craggmorn wrote:

Paizo promised us psionic material, they even have mention of it in their campaign book. However, they have failed to produce one after so many years.

I wish they would use Dreamscarred Press's stuff for their APs and other materials. Why don't they team up? I see them using 3rd party material in some of their APs concerning monsters, but they seem afraid to touch psionics.

Please, Paizo, use their stuff for your setting. It's only fitting.

The big issue here is that there's no one on the Paizo staff that likes the 3.5/dreamscarred mechanics approach. They seem to generally think the two guys that are behind all of dreamscarred did a good job, just a good job with a central mechanical approach they don't support.

The irony of course being that psionics has always been a pp/PSP system for as long as Pathfinder's predecessor game even had psionics. It's just... Odd that this is one area where Paizo seems to be actively turning their backs on a relatively constant part of the heritage of d20 RPGs because they don't like the way it plays. Not removing it altogether, but still, ironic reasons for mechanical changes that a lot of us seem to think are quite to absurdly unnecessary.

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Kvantum wrote:
Odd that this is one area where Paizo seems to be actively turning their backs on a relatively constant part of the heritage of d20 RPGs because they don't like the way it plays.

That's kind of strange to me, too. They actively supported some portions of the d20 system with well-known and documented problems for the sake of "backwards compatibility". But psionics, which Dreamscarred has balanced better than their own Core Rulebook? NO!!!

:P


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This is a complicated issue. As mentioned, there is no champion of traditional psionics within Paizo's staff. Nobody to say "hey, you know, I'll go ahead and work on it because I think it's cool!"

Further, Paizo wouldn't likely put the psionics rules into the PRD because to-date it only contains Paizo-originated material. Which means they'd have issues referencing it in their material.

Also, embracing Dreamscarred's material means they don't produce their own. Removing a potentially high-selling market from their own sales is generous but financially unwise.

Finally, there are those who are on the fence with psionics who don't like it's mechanic. Adding a Paizo-official book some day would make everyone satisfied.

So ultimately there's currently no compelling model where Paizo would adopt these mechanics.


If you're considering backing the project, check out the playtesting forums and the SRD. Take a look at it, try it out in your games, and then find yourself awake at night thinking of all the amazing ways a Dread can screw with a party.

Publisher, Dreamscarred Press

Kthulhu wrote:
Kvantum wrote:
Odd that this is one area where Paizo seems to be actively turning their backs on a relatively constant part of the heritage of d20 RPGs because they don't like the way it plays.

That's kind of strange to me, too. They actively supported some portions of the d20 system with well-known and documented problems for the sake of "backwards compatibility". But psionics, which Dreamscarred has balanced better than their own Core Rulebook? NO!!!

:P

Much as I appreciate the praise, that is certainly a claim I'm not going to make. But that is what we strive for.


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Jeremy Smith wrote:
Azazyll wrote:
Any idea about when this will come out though? The original date was nixed because of all the (amazing) additions we got through stretch goals, and they've not said anything about a new one (that I remember).

Simply put, because we don't have one... so it's a moving target.

With the final new archetype to enter Beta playtesting this week, we're getting very close to having all the new material done. We're working on the last three legendary items (one has been posted for backers, another just got posted in our private backer-only forum, and the last Andreas is writing up the history for and should get posted this week.)

The past two weeks have been rapid-fire in making progress, so while I certainly won't commit to having the PDF done by September, it's not outside the realm of possibility.

NOTE: that's PDF being done... I don't know how long the print run is going to take since this will be our first time using this printer (our normal printer doesn't do hardcover.)

Thanks! I think you're doing a stand up job, and I can't wait to read it. I'm moving in October, so I'll have to send along a change of address.

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Kvantum wrote:
The big issue here is that there's no one on the Paizo staff that likes the 3.5/dreamscarred mechanics approach.

This is not true. I happen to really like it, but I am not on the creative staff. :P


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Liz Courts wrote:
This is not true. I happen to really like it, but I am not on the creative staff. :P

Huh. Out of curiosity, how does the notion of world-domination sound to you? I'm just thinking... we could help you with a plan. That plan would involve first getting yourself onto the creative team, then wresting control of that team away from its current master, then writing some psionic stuff, and finally, while you're at it, take over the world?

I mean, you seem nice enough.

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Anguish wrote:
Huh. Out of curiosity, how does the notion of world-domination sound to you?

Last time I checked, I think my world domination plans involved baked goods...

...but that's for another thread! :D

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mmm... psionic cookies...


With cream frosting.. MMMMMMMM!!!!!


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Jeremy Smith wrote:
NOTE: that's PDF being done... I don't know how long the print run is going to take since this will be our first time using this printer (our normal printer doesn't do hardcover.)

What will be the physical size of this book? Will it be the same size as most RPG product, such as Paizo's hardcovers? I'm asking because Psionics Expanded had a weird smaller size.

Shadow Lodge

Liz Courts wrote:
Anguish wrote:
Huh. Out of curiosity, how does the notion of world-domination sound to you?

Last time I checked, I think my world domination plans involved baked goods...

...but that's for another thread! :D

This reminds me of a certain conversation I had with Scintillae regarding something along the lines of 'creme-filled nightmare cookies'.

Sadly I seem to have forgotten most of the context for that....

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Zaister wrote:
Jeremy Smith wrote:
NOTE: that's PDF being done... I don't know how long the print run is going to take since this will be our first time using this printer (our normal printer doesn't do hardcover.)
What will be the physical size of this book? Will it be the same size as most RPG product, such as Paizo's hardcovers? I'm asking because Psionics Expanded had a weird smaller size.

Standard size. :-)


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Good!

Liberty's Edge

I'm going to wait and see and order the book a month before the release date. I can't justify preordering the book without at least a tentative release date.

The Exchange

Anyone know what the date is on this? I've pre-ordered and have been looking around for it but haven't seen it.

Shadow Lodge

Given that they released a PDF of the extra material that wasn't found in the first two book, I'd say it's coming fairly soon-ish.

Publisher, Dreamscarred Press

The reason I haven't given any sort of release date is because it would be an estimated guess at best. I'm expecting to have the content sorted out in the next couple of weeks, and the print run is likely going to take a few weeks beyond that, but that's, again, a guess.

I'm waiting for release dates until things are more for sure.

The Exchange

I'm in my 2nd year of medical school, hell year, and am more so looking to enjoy this after I take my boards in end of May or in June. Do you think before or after that? Lol I need something good to look forward too. :0)


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I'm being patient. I'm being patient. See, patient. Really. Patient. Honest.

Is it time yet?

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Liz Courts wrote:
Anguish wrote:
Huh. Out of curiosity, how does the notion of world-domination sound to you?

Last time I checked, I think my world domination plans involved baked goods...

...but that's for another thread! :D

Is that why you and Sarah Marie had me making cake icing in that one dream I had in the Paizo Warehouse?

Or ... oh god. Maybe that wasn't a dream. Maybe it was a Shadow Out of Time .....

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The Todd wrote:
I'm in my 2nd year of medical school, hell year, and am more so looking to enjoy this after I take my boards in end of May or in June. Do you think before or after that? Lol I need something good to look forward too. :0)

LOL! Well before that.

The content for the book is written, it's just in various stages of playtesting and/or editing.

This week, I'll be going through all of the Beta playtesting feedback for the various parts of the book and making any necessary changes to put together the final version.

We're also working on some additional artwork to fill in throughout the book. Now that we're putting it all together, it's a lot easier to see where we need more artwork.

Silver Crusade

I just find it weird they use 3rd party stuff in their modules and AP, like the Advanced Bestiary book or whatever it's called, but refuse to use psionic material, too. Advanced Bestiary is not in the PRD either.


Fabius Maximus wrote:
Gods, this and Kobold Press's spellbook will make me go broke.

Gods?

Kobold Press's Spellbook?

What are the official names of these and do you recommend them highly?


Jonathan Needleman wrote:
Fabius Maximus wrote:
Gods, this and Kobold Press's spellbook will make me go broke.

Kobold Press's Spellbook?

What are the official names of these and do you recommend them highly?

Kobold's press Spellbook was a kickstarter called Deep Magic. It was funded with a lot of extra's - the book will be good sized. Release date in the future.


Jonathan Needleman wrote:
Fabius Maximus wrote:
Gods, this and Kobold Press's spellbook will make me go broke.

Gods?

Kobold Press's Spellbook?

What are the official names of these and do you recommend them highly?

Gods! I should have used an exclamation mark, I guess.


I'm dreaming of a psi christmas
just thought Jeremy should know
where pyros crispin, and telepaths listen
And go places you don't want them to go...

The Exchange

Woof. 80 book. Good, but woof.


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TheLoneCleric wrote:
Woof. 80 book. Good, but woof.

Not to keep championing Jeremy's pricing, but... the black & white version is $60.

Rappan Athuk is about 600 pages, B&W, and is $100. Slumbering Tsar is about 800 pages, B&W and $150. Tome of Horrors Complete is about 700 pages, B&W and $110.

Really, this isn't unreasonable. It's just big. But awesome.

Think PFRPG Core plus APG in terms of game-usable content.

The Exchange

That may well be. Just quite a pinch all at once to buy. I can handle 40 books every 2 months or so. This is a Christmas or Birthday level buy...maybe.

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