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Adventure Awaits in the Lands of Golarion!

The greatest heroes and most fearsome foes of the Pathfinder world come alive on your gaming table with Pathfinder Battles: Legends of Golarion, the brand new Pathfinder Battles pre-painted miniature set from Paizo Publishing and WizKids Games!

This stunning set features 55 all-new pre-painted sculpts drawn from the gorgeous art of Paizo Publishing's award-winning Pathfinder Campaign Setting, home to all official Pathfinder adventures! With figures drawn from more than 5 years of fan-favorite Pathfinder RPG releases, this set is a celebration of the world's best-selling fantasy roleplaying game!

Pathfinder Battles figures come in a variety of randomly assorted packaging options.

  • Legends of Golarion Standard Boosters contain 1 Large figure and 3 Medium or Small figures
  • Legends of Golarion Standard Bricks contain 8 Standard Boosters (32 figures total)
  • Legends of Golarion Standard Cases contain 4 Standard Bricks (32 Standard Boosters, 128 figures total)
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Great Set

5/5

I was very lucky and received a nearly perfect set of minis from this set. I had absolutely no breaks and the painting was nearly flawless.

The only suggestion I have is that Wizkids uses a glossier paint sometimes. I find the paint they use to be very dull looking, which makes it feel cheap and not durable.

Here are some highlights from the set.

Awesome

Bugbear Warrior: Surprise! This common was painted flawlessly and is one of my favorites.

Calikang: One of my favorites from the set. Great sculpt, detail, and flawless paint job.

Djinni: Another highlight. Amazing details.

Fire Demon/Balor: This baby is the king of the set. The best sculpt, lots of details, a great translucent whip, and near perfect painting. The only thing that could be better is if the paint job was a little glossier.

Green Dragon: Flawless paint, extremely nice. For more detail see my review.

Greater Death Demon/Vrolikai: Another highlight. Beautiful.

Marsh Giant: This high gloss mini turned out to be a great surprise.

Medium Black Dragon: This mini looks better than in the pictures. I understand that this was previously a large mini, but I found it perfect as a medium. Great sculpt, pose, and flawless paint. The black paint is a little blue however. I don’t see how it could be much better without a custom paint job.

Sandpoint Devil: This mini is one of my favorites. It’s BIG, much larger than normal. I don’t know why, but it’s apparent that more time was spent painting this mini than any other mini in the set, including the green dragon! The details and blending of color are incredible. I guess WK wanted to make Paizo happy. A joy to look at.

Seugathi: Another highlight. Love the sculpt and the gloss finish.

Serpent Demon/Marilith: Another nice surprise. Everything was flawless. Some people might have a problem with the swords looking like lightsabers, but I think they're alright.

Serpentfolk High Priest: Another favorite with flawless paint and lots of details.

Good

Derhii: The gray on this mini is too dull but it’s painted flawlessly.

Eagle Knight, Eagle Knight Officer, Knight of Ozem, Janni, Thrune Agent, Queen Ileosa: All of these medium humanoids were painted flawlessly and could not have not been done any better.

Hodag, Reefclaw, Snow Leopard, Tatzylwurm: Better than expected.

Orc Archer, Orc Mystic, Orc Soldier: Perfect details, even on the commons.

Moon Beast: Gets better with time and is a favorite.

Serpentfolk Degenerate, Serpentfolk Mystic: Half of them were flawless, half were only “OK”.

Slurk: Nice innovation with the disgusting gunk underneath his chin.

Tooth Gang Brute/Knifer: Pretty good but not flawless.

Ulat-Kini: Love the wet/glossy look.

OK
Akata: OK but I would have preferred a glossier (and heavier) paint (some paint is coming off his head).

Charau-Ka: The paint job is worse than what’s shown on the website. Probably too many details.

Kolbold Chieftain, Kolbold King, Kolbold Mystic, Kolbold Warrior: Unfortunately, my kolbolds were not done to the level of perfection found on the website (they have no faces). They are “OK”.

Monkey Swarm: They don’t look like monkeys (more like zombie babies). The problem with swarms is that to use them in game, they need to be flat coasters/bases, not minis.

Disappointing

Beautific One: For me this was the biggest disappointment of the set. It had the worst paint job. I’m not even sure it was the artist’s fault, it might have just been the sculpt itself. I’m not even sure I want to use it in my AP. Warning: Does NOT look like the website picture at all!

Goblin Pyro #1 + #2: I find it interesting that these minis are some of the best for some people, but for me the paint jobs are the worst, and they’re missing paint on their heads. Usable but not great.

Hellknight Signifier: The problem is the sculpt. Does not look as good as the preview picture. Barely any details and barely usable.

I didn’t get the following minis: Efreeti, Hezrou, Kolbold Archer, King Irovetti, Gorilla King, Lini, Marid, Mothman, Shaitan, Sajan, Scourge Hellknight.

Overall
Overall I couldn’t be more pleased with this set. However, it makes me very nervous that the quality I received was a fluke and makes me hesitate to make further purchases.


HORRIBLE PAINT JOBS !!!

1/5

SHAME ON YOU WIZKIDS AND SHAME ON YOU PAIZO FOR RELEASING THIS SET WITH SUCH BAD PAINT JOBS AND CHARGING $400 FOR A CASE OF MINIS AT THIS LOW QUALITY!


Not as bad as people are making them out to be.

3/5

I seriously am wondering where these reviewers were getting their miniatures from. I just did a second look over my first Brick from my FLGS and I found only TWO (2) glaring issues in the entire brick, and one annoying collation problem.

The two problem pieces first, the Eagle Knight Officer had the eye problems that have been mentioned prior, and the Toad Demon has VERY visible mold lines (and mild flashing) along both arms.

The Collation problem: Out of my Brick I got exactly ONE Large Rare (A Djinni with an absolutely FLAWLESS paintjob), not the 2 to 3 I should have, a minor quibble.

Other than those 3 issues, the set is passable. The scuplts are the quality I've come to expect in Pathfinder Battles PPMs, and the paintjobs, were adequate.

Now while I didn't get any major standout pieces (except the afore mentioned Djinni), I also didn't get the glaring drippy paint jobs and pooling washes that seem to have plagued other collectors. The goblin Pyros and Orcs I got meshed well with the ones I already had providing a color continuity not found in other PPM sets. I finally have enough variety in Orcs for Pathfinder to run an encounter.

My only other issue with the set is its name - LEGENDS OF GOLARION.
Having seen a full set list and compared it with my Brick, I find the set name misleading, as there are only 4 pieces deserving the term "Legend" in the Set (6 if you count the Iconics) and only a 1/4 of the pieces are truly unique to Golarion.

On the whole, a throughly average set, worth picking up for the commons and uncommons to fill out your collections, but not really anything earth-shaking in the Rare department.


These are horrible! Save your money!

1/5

What happened to Paizo miniatures? Unlike some others out there, I felt by and large that the paint jobs on some of the more recent releases were good (but not great), while the sculpts continued to get better and better. While the Skull & Shackles set contained some troubling painting jobs, the sculpts were great and more than made up for them.

And then came this set, Legends of Golarion.

There are already a couple other reviews, and they highlight the worst: terrible paint jobs and horrible sculpts.

The other reviews are definitely worth reading, and they highlight issues in such terms that I feel like those other reviewers have probably been around pre-painted plastic miniatures longer than I have. If I could say one thing about those reviews, it is that they are simply too kind. Based even on the quality of past Paizo pre-painted minis, these deserve only one star.

I actually like the characters that were chosen for this set. Perhaps they aren't the most popular names out there, but as they are rather eclectic, in theory it would have allowed me to use some monsters I've never had in my campaigns before. But due to the poor quality, I really don't think I'll use but more than a handful of these minis. It's a shame.

WizKids has always had a bit of a shady reputation in my opinion. A buddy of mine collects many statues and busts (Superheroes, etc.), and the WizKids ones range between top-notch and worst ever. I don't know what the deal is over there, but I can only assume the painters suffer from some form of schizophrenia.

One thing I was super excited to do with the Legends of Golarion set was drop some big money to build up my collection of several of these characters. For example, I was eager to purchase multiples of the Bugbear Warrior (outside the handful I received in the case I purchased). When combined with the other Bugbear sculpt from the other set, these would have made great miniatures for early level encounters in my campaigns. But the sculpt on these are average at best, and the paint job doesn't do anything to salvage them.

As mentioned in one of the other reviews, nearly every medium-sized miniature in this set has a horrible paint job, and blotchiness is just the beginning. If you were hoping to stock up on a number of different human soldier-based miniatures from this set, just forget it now. Be it the Eagle Knights or the Knight of Ozem, these human medium sculpt and paint jobs are exceptionally bad.

I'm especially disappointed in this set because I really feel like future Builder Series will look to lean heavily on these sculpts (especially the Kobolds, Orcs, Bugbears and maybe even humans, like Soldiers). All I can say is that if and when that ends up being the case, there is a re-paint job for every single miniature used from this set.

These snow leopards are juvenile. I was hoping to purchase a few extra, as I'm putting together an entire snow/winter-based continent for one of my campaigns. Instead I'll just keep the ones I received in the case I bought and make do.

I ordered a case of Wrath of the Righteous from a website, but I think I'm going to go ahead and cancel it and just wait until the release of the set. That way I can buy individual miniatures as needed, and only if the reviews out there make it clear the line has shown clear improvement in the paint jobs. This line is so horrible, however, that I'm just not sure I can even have hope of improvement. By and large, these are hands down worse than nearly any of the D&D sets released last decade.

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I just looked over each miniature again, after taking a short break from writing this review. They are so disappointing that I'm pretty sure I'd give it half a star on here if that were possible.

Barring a miraculous turnaround on the Wrath of the Righteous set this December, I think I'm pretty much done with WizKid-made Paizo Pathfinder miniatures.

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If anybody is interested, I can do a YouTube review of this set, so that everyone can see how terrible each particular miniature is. That way you will get a better idea which ones might be worth purchasing individually from one of the many websites out there. In the meantime, if you just have to have some of these monsters for your campaign, I suggest looking at other sets first, or simply waiting for the next Builder series (and the inevitable re-paint jobs those will come with).
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UPDATE 10/18/13: I just read the most recent review, and I'm curious as to whether or not the reviewer has ever purchased previous pathfinder miniatures. Perhaps I should have made clear that my comparison for this particular set is against Pathfinder Battles sets of the past. If you compare the average medium-sized miniature from this set against one from Heroes & Monsters, Rise of the Runelords, Shattered Star, or Skull & Shackles, the discrepancy in paint jobs is very apparent.

The sculpts themselves are solid, but that has never really been an issue for any of these Paizo miniatures.

In my opinion, Paizo makes some of the most beautiful Large-sized sculpts out of all the pre-painted minis out there. While I wouldn't consider the sculpt of the large miniatures in this set up to par with their previous work, they are still very solid. Some of them, like the Djinni one of the other reviewers mentioned, are clearly better than others. The Marid and the Gorilla King are two more that clearly stand out as head and shoulders above the rest. The paint job on a majority of the large-sized creatures is solid, too. This should be expected, as there is more surface area to get it right.

While I've always considered the medium-based Paizo miniatures from other series to generally be the weakest when it comes to paint jobs, they've always been much better than the ones that Wizards of the Coast came out with a decade ago. There have always been exceptions, on both sides, of course. But by and large, I'd always choose a medium Pathfinder mini over one from WOTC. This is the first set from Paizo where I can honestly say that just isn't the case.

In each particular set that Paizo has released so far, there always seems to be at least one or two miniatures that just aren't on the same level as the others from the set. Often times it's a paint issue, and you sort of scratch your head and wonder what happened. But despite the issues there, it's not been enough to diminish an entire set. The medium-sized miniatures from The Legends of Golarion line are different. While there is still the obvious painting mishap found on one or two, the job on the others is so underwhelming that it's tough to say "well I didn't just waste my money".

If I get some time this weekend, I'll do a YouTube review of this line, with close-ups of each miniature from all angles. I'll be sure to include plenty of comparisons to miniatures both from the previous Paizo lines and to the older D&D miniatures. Perhaps that will make things more clear for anyone still on the fence about this set.

As I said, I'm a huge fan of what Paizo has done with their minis. Their lines are a bit more expensive than WOTC's were when those first came out, but I've not minded because the quality was significantly better on these ones. The drop off in quality here with this most recent set is unacceptable; at this point, these miniatures should only be getting better, not worse.

I've been excited for what seems to be a rather break-neck speed (relatively speaking) in miniature sets being released over the last 16 months (and counting). I've even cut costs from my personal budget in other areas of my life so I can afford at least one case from every new line coming out. But I won't throw good money after bad product, and if the paint quality doesn't improve with the upcoming Wrath of Righteousness line this December, I'll just assume that Paizo has scrapped their once-proud standards and is attempting to take us all for a ride.


Legends of Golarion

2/5

So... opened my case of Legends of Golarion today... and on the whole I must say I am very disappointed...

Pros:

1) Distribution - Once again, buying a sealed case got me at least one of every miniature in the set. So, the only set they have missed this mark on thus far was Rise of the Runelords...

Cons:

1) Figure Selection - This was billed as Legends of Golarion... and while seeing a King and Queen is nice (they certainly both belong)... on the whole I really don't feel the set lived up to its name.

With so many adventure paths and source books to draw from, I was really hoping to see a truly awe inspiring selection of personalities from around the Pathfinder world. Instead we are given goblins with torches and marsh giants and a weird selection of monsters I don't even recognize? Weird...

2) Quality - The painting in this set was far, far below expectation. We're talking D&D minis bad here, folks. And no, I don't expect Golden Daemon level paint jobs... but what I do expect is for the painting to be as good as it was on the earlier sets.

The painting in Heroes and Monsters and in Rise of the Runelords was great. I was thrilled with how awesome the minis looked. With this set, not so much. I don't know if Wizkids changed the paint they were using, started using less paint, started using a different glue, or process, or what... but the paint jobs on these are bad... really, really bad. Like several of the figures look like they have leprosy bad...
Also I couldn’t help but notice that the quality was a dramatic step down from the production proofs shown on the Paizo blog and on other sites. This sort of smacks of Wizkids showing Erik one thing and then releasing something different to the public…

Unfortunately, if this is the level of quality that can be expected from Wizkid’s revised release schedule, I will have to look elsewhere to get my pre-painted miniatures… and I doubt I’ll be the only one…


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Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure, Lost Omens, Pawns, Rulebook Subscriber
roysier wrote:
Why have the bricks not shipped if ordered directly from Paizo?

Because Paizo doesn't ship them directly, they're handled by WizKids.


Pathfinder Maps, Starfinder Maps Subscriber
TriOmegaZero wrote:
roysier wrote:
Why have the bricks not shipped if ordered directly from Paizo?
Because Paizo doesn't ship them directly, they're handled by WizKids.

I dont think so. Paizo has bricks in stock, I believe. Everything this month has just been delayed by the pugwampis in the machine.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure, Lost Omens, Pawns, Rulebook Subscriber

I assumed he was referring to the other bricks in the distribution channels.


Pathfinder Maps, Starfinder Maps Subscriber

Ah. I probably misunderstood.

Grand Lodge

roysier wrote:

Why have the bricks not shipped if ordered directly from Paizo? The stores have them already. Are these going to ship anytime soon or should I cancel and buy them at the hobby stores.

In the past I would always get mine a few days before the stores had them which is why I ordered directly from Paizo. If the stores were going to get them first I would buy them at the stores.

It is never a guarantee that you will get a product before the stores. But what is good is that you WILL get something you ordered. I know it is a small compensation right now knowing full well you do not have the brick in hand and the stores do. But at least you know you will get it though. Sometimes before the rest of us.. sometimes after.

Lantern Lodge Customer Service Dire Care Bear Manager

We had some issues shipping new releases this month which means we are just now getting Legends of Golation shipped out to paizo.com customers.

Lantern Lodge Customer Service Dire Care Bear Manager

Paizo doesn't do distribution for the Battles minis. Purchases made through Paizo for these are all direct customer orders. Wizkids produces and works with the distribution network for getting these to game stores and other online retailers.


Sara Marie wrote:
We had some issues shipping new releases this month which means we are just now getting Legends of Golation shipped out to paizo.com customers.

Sorry to hear about the problems. But thank you for the heads up. I was thinking something was wrong. But now I know to just wait a little longer. :-)


So I got a booster yesterday and had a 50% success rate on the paint job. On the plus side, my Serpentfolk Mystic and pile of monkeys were fine. My Moon-Beast .. well, it looked not as good. The pink for its tentacles looked like it was rubbed on with a finger and some detail was lost. My wife commented that it looked like it was wearing a monkey suit. The Janni was ok, but the facial detail was incredibly lacking and its gloves/hands looked funny. Overall they are fine and can be used, but man the moon-beast looks horrible.

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Sara Marie wrote:

We had some issues shipping new releases this month which means we are just now getting Legends of Golation shipped out to paizo.com customers.

This is all well and good, but it's not acceptable. Having a subscription to the minis line should not mean I get my shipment a month after release. More and more I am wondering why I am just not pre-ordering from one of the online stores instead of supporting you all directly.

At least an email explaining the issues would've been nice. Instead of having to ask around on another board as to the reason for the delay.

Paizo Employee Paizo Customer Service Algorithm

Cylyria wrote:
This is all well and good, but it's not acceptable. Having a subscription to the minis line should not mean I get my shipment a month after release.

While we try to ship our subscription shipments to have the miniatures arrive as close to the street date as possible we can't guarantee that we can do this for every release. We keep the Customer Service messageboards as up to date about subscriptions as we can, with the Monthly Subscription Shipment thread updated as close to real time as we can with new information regarding that months subscriptions.

On your My Subscriptions page you also have the 'Hold for Monthly Shipment' option selected. This will cause your miniatures to be delayed until the rest of your monthly subscription products are available to minimize shipping costs. If you would like your miniatures to ship as soon as possible you will want to select the 'Never hold anything' option.

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What exactly is being held? The only other thing I have on subscription is the AP, and last I checked "Demons Heresy" has been out for a while.


Release date for Demon's Heresy is October 30th.

Sovereign Court

PDF is available Oct 30th. The hardcopy is out. Or did that book also fall into the "issues with shipping"?


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Cylyria wrote:
PDF is available Oct 30th. The hardcopy is out. Or did that book also fall into the "issues with shipping"?

Yes, all subscriptions got caught up in the drama this month. It sounds like they had some pretty major problems.


Sara Marie wrote:


If you'd rather not post it, you can send it to customer.service@paizo.com. Visual examples of issues are very useful.

I might have to do this, there's some pretty glaring issues with my case. I'll compile some pictures tomorrow night.


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Cylyria wrote:
PDF is available Oct 30th. The hardcopy is out. Or did that book also fall into the "issues with shipping"?

The PDF releases on the same date that the hardcopy is expected to be released. If you're seeing the hardcopy on sale somewhere, then someone has broken the "street date".

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Urath DM wrote:
Cylyria wrote:
PDF is available Oct 30th. The hardcopy is out. Or did that book also fall into the "issues with shipping"?
The PDF releases on the same date that the hardcopy is expected to be released. If you're seeing the hardcopy on sale somewhere, then someone has broken the "street date".

Really? Cause I am seeing it as the top seller on the front page of the Paizo site. Clicking on that link says the PDF is available on the 30th, but the hardcopy looks to be out to me.

And there are the posts of people talking about stuff in the AP itself. I assume they got it from somewhere?

Scarab Sages

Pathfinder Maps Subscriber

Top seller because of the subscriptions, they have all been processed at this point and are being shipped.

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People are talking about it because they either have received their subscription copy or they have got their shipping email and downloaded their PDFs.

Everything is on track. I received my shipment two days ago (I live about an hour from Paizo's offices) and downloaded my PDFs yesterday.

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Shem wrote:

People are talking about it because they either have received their subscription copy or they have got their shipping email and downloaded their PDFs.

And thus my point is made. I personally have heard nothing.

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Cylyria wrote:
Shem wrote:

People are talking about it because they either have received their subscription copy or they have got their shipping email and downloaded their PDFs.

And thus my point is made. I personally have heard nothing.

And if you would follow the thread about subscriptions, they're still cranking them out. I, for example, just received my e-mail yesterday.

Subscription != street date. Subscriptions are still being sent out. I don't know if I'm reading more hostility into your posts than you're intending, or if you're actually being hostile.

Eric K answered your question, promptyly politely and correctly. Whether you choose to accept that or not, doesn't change the facts.

Digital Products Assistant

A quick reminder: let's keep this thread on the topic of Legends of Golarion, please. If you are having an issue with your subscriptions, please post in the Customer Service forum.


I placed an order for a module and received it on Monday; it arrived 6 days after I ordered it. So, to say there is a problem with all shipping is incorrect.

I'm really disappointed that mini's ordered from Paizo.com are going out late. I order them from Paizo.com to get them earlier then the stores so I can hit the singles market early to fill in the mini's I'm missing before the more popular rare figures go out of stock. It’s ridiculous that they still have not shipped.

I guess I learned my lesson this time around ordering mini’s directly from Paizo.com is a mistake that I won’t repeat.

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I went ahead and bought the iconics, demons and dragon (oh my!) now to wiat until December... (Picked ship with next shipment)


Can we get word from Paizo about all the reports of poor quality of these minis?

If we get poor quality minis, do we have the ability to exchange them through you?

Was the set rushed?

Liberty's Edge

Curmudgeonly wrote:

Can we get word from Paizo about all the reports of poor quality of these minis?

If we get poor quality minis, do we have the ability to exchange them through you?

Was the set rushed?

Paizo does not make these. Why would they owe you exchanges? If you are dissatisfied Wizkids is the manufacturer of this product and would be the people who you would seek recompense from if you feel cheated.

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Sara Marie wrote:
Drogon wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
Keep telling us about these—and better yet, link to photos; we'd like to make sure this is addressed with WizKids ASAP.
I can't post a picture of Sajan. It's too close to porn...
If you'd rather not post it, you can send it to customer.service@paizo.com. Visual examples of issues are very useful.

I send some pictures. If you need anything else just let me know.


It appears to me Wizkids did not do a quality check on their items coming off the assembly line. It's normally a standard part of the a factory process someone (or a machine) picks out poor quality products and throws them out. It looks like this time around this step was skipped.


graywulfe wrote:
Curmudgeonly wrote:

Can we get word from Paizo about all the reports of poor quality of these minis?

If we get poor quality minis, do we have the ability to exchange them through you?

Was the set rushed?

Paizo does not make these. Why would they owe you exchanges? If you are dissatisfied Wizkids is the manufacturer of this product and would be the people who you would seek recompense from if you feel cheated.

I bought them through Paizo, much like any other retailer, exchanges are common, or should be common practice.

Best Buy doesn't make laptops, but if they sell me a lemon, they will exchange it.

Sczarni

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure, Companion, Lost Omens Subscriber
Curmudgeonly wrote:
graywulfe wrote:
Curmudgeonly wrote:

Can we get word from Paizo about all the reports of poor quality of these minis?

If we get poor quality minis, do we have the ability to exchange them through you?

Was the set rushed?

Paizo does not make these. Why would they owe you exchanges? If you are dissatisfied Wizkids is the manufacturer of this product and would be the people who you would seek recompense from if you feel cheated.

I bought them through Paizo, much like any other retailer, exchanges are common, or should be common practice.

Best Buy doesn't make laptops, but if they sell me a lemon, they will exchange it.

The difference is that Best Buy can return the defective items to the distributor and get their money back, who then send the product back to the original company so they can get their money back. Wizkids doesn't offer this to the distributors, so they don't offer it to the retailers, so they don't offer it to the customers. The preferred method of replacements is instead dealing directly with wizkids


The other difference is a lap top sold at Best Buy is not marketed as a "Best Buy Laptop". It's marketed as a Dell or IBM or Apple etc.

While I understand and agree WizKids should address the quality issues that seem to have cropped into this product line, I also know if I were Paizo I would want lots of proof to use in my conversations with WizKids. It is Paizo's name on the product. Pathfinder is Paizo's IP and their brand. I would be shocked if Paizo weren't already discussing the issue with WizKids.

WizKids should make good on the worst defects. But I am not holding my breath for replacements for most "bad paint jobs".

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My case arrived, and I'm very happy with it.

I got the whole shebang, although I was nervous until the final box revealed an efreeti.

Yes, there are some painting goofs. Probably an hour or so of touch-ups will make them irrelevant. I know some folks find this much more irritating than I do, but I expect some flaws in mass-production painting.

I'm glad Wizkids has moved toward less packaging but, if further improvements are possible, I'd love to send even less to recylcling. I'm at a loss to suggest what those improvements would be, so maybe this is just as good as it gets.

The two changes I'd most like to see in the line going forward are:

1. A decision at the concept level to avoid long, narrow pieces like rapiers and spears. Flatter, wider blades will be easier to unwarp.

2. A similar concept decision to go for higher-contrast paint jobs. The hellknight/Thrune/signifer figures look cool, and I'm not against the dried-blood red of their outfits, but my favorite minis are almost always those with brighter, higher-contrast paint schemes. The smaller the mini, the more I want to see its detail emphasized by the paint.


Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Just opened my case, and I'm pretty happy. I've got Shattered Star and RotRL minis to compare with, and in general these are of similar quality. There were a few messy paint jobs (King Irovetti actually looks terrible), but the same was true with my last case. A little touch up will take care of most of them. If I didn't have paints and brushes, they would probably bother me more.

Most of the minis are excellent. The Fire Demon actually looks even better than the pictures. So does the Greater Death Demon. The orcs all look great, especially when I put them in a group.

There are a few minis I was kind of disappointed in:

The Akatas are a great sculpt, but they appear to only have one paint step on the body. It's just a solid blue. This doesn't seem to be a result of sloppiness; all four of mine are the same. I can improve them, but as it is they look kind of silly.

The Snow Leopard is kind of a failure overall. The sculpt is poorly proportioned (head size to body size is kittenish) and the paint is kind of a dull grey. The tail is kind of small, which is unfortunate for an animal with a tail as impressive as a snow leopard's. If I really need snow leopards in a campaign, I'll probably end up using the Droogami mini from Reaper, which is excellent.

The Scourge Hellknight is a perfectly good sculpt, but I agree with the excellent author above me that they are very low contrast. They look kind of flat and dusty, and they just don't impress me at all.

I was also missing one miniature from a booster pack, and a kobold broke off it's base when it was pulled out. There were no other breakages.

My only other disappointment is that I only got two moon beasts. I need something like 6....


"Shadar Aman wrote:

I was also missing one miniature from a booster pack, and a kobold broke off it's base when it was pulled out.

Does anyone know if Wizkids actually addresses the "miniature completely missing from booster" problem? I've seen a few people point to their website, but all that they seem to deal with is broken miniatures that you have to send proof of. They make that process as seemingly difficult as possible, so I feel like there would be a big lack of empathy for a completely missing miniature.


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In_digo wrote:
"Shadar Aman wrote:

I was also missing one miniature from a booster pack, and a kobold broke off it's base when it was pulled out.

Does anyone know if Wizkids actually addresses the "miniature completely missing from booster" problem? I've seen a few people point to their website, but all that they seem to deal with is broken miniatures that you have to send proof of. They make that process as seemingly difficult as possible, so I feel like there would be a big lack of empathy for a completely missing miniature.

I will certainly give it a shot, and if they're willing to replace it I'll update here. I got a full set, though, so I'm not incredibly motivated to get one more.


In_digo wrote:
"Shadar Aman wrote:

I was also missing one miniature from a booster pack, and a kobold broke off it's base when it was pulled out.

Does anyone know if Wizkids actually addresses the "miniature completely missing from booster" problem? I've seen a few people point to their website, but all that they seem to deal with is broken miniatures that you have to send proof of. They make that process as seemingly difficult as possible, so I feel like there would be a big lack of empathy for a completely missing miniature.

I actually wonder about this as well. I had a missing miniature in one of my Shattered Star cases, although I never contacted WizKids about it, as it was the only discrepancy of the case.

I can’t say how hard or difficult WizKids tries to make the process as I haven’t sent anything in to be replaced. But I will say I wish they were more easily contacted than just through the replacement program or email. They are big enough where they should have a customer service number of some sort.

And still waiting on my subscription cases (for Legends of Golarian). :(


Shadar Aman wrote:
Just opened my case, and I'm pretty happy. I've got Shattered Star and RotRL minis to compare with, and in general these are of similar quality. There were a few messy paint jobs (King Irovetti actually looks terrible), but the same was true with my last case. A little touch up will take care of most of them. If I didn't have paints and brushes, they would probably bother me more.

Is there anything I need to know about touching-up miniatures? Just paint right over it? Spray on a finish?

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This is the first case where I had no breakage and as I said in the Skull & Shackles thread - I have figured out that how you take them out of the packaging has a lot to do with the issue of minis being pulled off the base.

I was missing one mini from a booster pack but who knows what mini it was supposed to be.

I have already ordered everything I wanted to fill in from ebay and should have them all by next week.

I am happy with the set and not as worried about the paint jobs as some folks here. I buy these because I do not want to paint and I find them so superior to the old DDM figures that I have totally replaced some types of figures with those that come in Pathfinder Battles.

That is all...


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Brocimus wrote:
Shadar Aman wrote:
Just opened my case, and I'm pretty happy. I've got Shattered Star and RotRL minis to compare with, and in general these are of similar quality. There were a few messy paint jobs (King Irovetti actually looks terrible), but the same was true with my last case. A little touch up will take care of most of them. If I didn't have paints and brushes, they would probably bother me more.

Is there anything I need to know about touching-up miniatures? Just paint right over it? Spray on a finish?

I just paint right over it and call it done. You might want to wash the mini first to make sure there aren't any oils on the part you're painting, but that's the most work I'm willing to do for a pre-painted mini.


The replacement program is excruciating. They charge for shipping, which is annoying, but understandable. On top of that, I've discovered they don't allow more than 5 replacements in a package (so for any breakages beyond 5, your doubling, tripling, etc the shipping cost), and they don't allow you to return anything in the same package unless it is of the exact same set (so, in my most recent case, I had 7 miniatures, 3 from sets other than skull & shackles. Needless to say, for $5 a pop a package, three were thrown in a scrap bin).
The arbitrary restraints are the real kickers. They really feel like an attempt to dissuade customers from sending in miniatures that need to be replaced.


Yes, that does sound like a complete pain to deal with. I think the most broken/missing minis I've had on all my sets is 5, and it doesn't sound like I will be attempting to replace them. I can see why yourself, or others, would be miffed.

I think they obviously don't want miniatures to have to be replaced, but I agree they shouldn't set the program up to make it difficult (therefore disouraging) for customers to do so.

How much did they charge for shipping costs? I know it can of course vary depending on where you are at, but at least it would give an idea.


I purchased a case and didn't have any major problems. I thought the paint jobs looked good. A few commons had some derpy eyes but no issues with the uncommons or rares. I didn't notice any spots where paint was missing. As for breakage, I had one pack where the toad demon came loose and pulverized the goblin in the pack into 5 pieces. (That toad demon is built like a rock). And my marid came off its base. (The marid seems out of proportion with the other three genies, being much larger than them, as well). Otherwise, nothing broke. The marid was easy enough to glue back down, and the goblin I got four more of them, so I didn't care.
Also, I got the full set in my case again, so that's always a plus.
Keep it up.

Silver Crusade

As of this comment, Legends of Golarion is a 2.5 star product. I have been holding out making any purchases until I see some (semi-)official comments explaining why the paint quality seems to have been so hit and miss this time around.


Can some of you who had positive to semi-positive experiences please write a review on the reviews page? Although there have been some quality issues there is no way that this is only a 2.5 star set, and certainly not the 1 star's its been getting.


Sad to report Leo, I agree with Nik. This set has a few winners, but the number of poor paint jobs errors, mis-assembles, etc is very high.

This is the first set I feel went backwards in quality.


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Hopefully we'll see a blog addressing this issue, maybe even with a guest author from WizKids. The amount of complaints we're seeing here is inexcusable. It seems like WizKids is going out of their way to show quality product to Paizo for the approvals and then letting quality suffer for consumers. Somebody is going to have to answer for that or people are going to stop buying these which would be a damn shame. My favorite minis are from PFB but I can't justify buying cases any more after the decline in quality.


For as much as I love the figs, even I have to admit that there are a few where the paints are lackluster. Not to mention, the orc archers all have the strings on the wrong side of the arm (which is fixable...but annoying none-the-less), I had a few figs come broken (again, fixable...but still), and I had a fig that came only as a base. It had no figure attached to the base at all. It was a kobold chieftain, so not that big of a deal...but that sort of thing shouldn't happen.

On the bright side, I did pull a full set and we were able to put the pieces to use Saturday night during a fight.


I wonder if the speed with which the sets are coming out now is affecting quality?

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I am not seeing the issues others have. Other then maybe having one figure off of the base which is not a big deal that a little glue can't fix.
I love the sculpts I am seeing in this set. As far as the paint jobs.. as I mentioned earlier in this thread. It is what it is and I do like what I am seeing for paint jobs. I do not expect Demon Sword quality nor am I seeing the crappy paint jobs others are seeing.

I do think some people are being overly picky but can not blame them either too. I use the DDM line in comparison and think that this set and all the other Pathfinder Battles line STILL blow DDM miniatures out of the water. This set has some amazing sculpts and replace many many of my DDM minis too.

Thanks!! :)

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