Pathfinder Battles—Legends of Golarion

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Adventure Awaits in the Lands of Golarion!

The greatest heroes and most fearsome foes of the Pathfinder world come alive on your gaming table with Pathfinder Battles: Legends of Golarion, the brand new Pathfinder Battles pre-painted miniature set from Paizo Publishing and WizKids Games!

This stunning set features 55 all-new pre-painted sculpts drawn from the gorgeous art of Paizo Publishing's award-winning Pathfinder Campaign Setting, home to all official Pathfinder adventures! With figures drawn from more than 5 years of fan-favorite Pathfinder RPG releases, this set is a celebration of the world's best-selling fantasy roleplaying game!

Pathfinder Battles figures come in a variety of randomly assorted packaging options.

  • Legends of Golarion Standard Boosters contain 1 Large figure and 3 Medium or Small figures
  • Legends of Golarion Standard Bricks contain 8 Standard Boosters (32 figures total)
  • Legends of Golarion Standard Cases contain 4 Standard Bricks (32 Standard Boosters, 128 figures total)
Purchasers should get no to very few duplicate figures in a brick. Buyers who purchase factory-sealed cases should get a nearly complete set of figures. (As with any randomized product, collation is not guaranteed.)

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A Definite Must Have Set

4/5

I'm perplexed why the rating for Legends of Golarion is not higher. Perhaps I'm lucky, but in two bricks I received a majority of the set. The duplicates I did end up with are very welcome, especially for a GM. Lots of kobolds, goblins, and orcs among the humans and other PC races. The non-humanoid creatures are varied and interesting. While the set isn't overly impressive, I feel like I received a lot of value.


My Experience With One Brick

5/5

Variety: I received the following figures: 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 6, 9, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 20, 22, 24, 24, 28, 30, 31, 32, 34, 35, 37, 39, 40, 45, 51, 54. In all, only 2 duplicated figures (the Kobold Archer and the Ulat-Kini), both of which are handy to have.

My favorite figures are the Akata, Derhii, Goblins, Kobolds, Serpentfolk and last but certainly not least: The Fire Demon. The Fire Demon is fantastic, and I'm very tempted to hide it from my players until the perfect moment, which I'll have to plan out starting now.

Paint: I was quite pleased with the paint jobs and have almost no complaints on that front. All of the figures are vibrant and easily recognized. The one disappointing figure from a painting standpoint was the Eagle Knight (#22), who has a smudged face and some color bleed from the trim of his coat.

Construction: Most of the figures are top notch and seem like they'll hold up for a lot of use, but the Black Dragon (#45) had a broken horn. Thankfully, the dragon and its horn were kept in a small bag and I can fix it with glue. Many of the weapons are flexible, and will require some adjustments to straighten them out, but that's to be expected with plastic figures, and it's certainly better than being too brittle. Some of the figures have obvious seams that I would have liked to be filled in.

Verdict: Based on my experience thus far, I'd recommend this Brick and will probably buy another one for myself.


Nice figures, bad execution

3/5

I buy reversed, so this is my third Case i bought from Paizo :)

I'm very satisfied with the figures coming from Legends of Golarion.
if you are playing the Serpent Skull AP this is definitely a nice addition to the campaign.
As this is an older release i find the manufacturing mistakes from the past in this one.
Broken Minis (2 in this one)
The Beatific one is missing an Arm, i believe it never found it's way on to the figure,
The Paint Jobs are 50:50. I cannot fully support the views of other reviewers (my Goblins look fine, my Lini is ok) King Irovetti however is an bad example for a paintjob.

After all, i have to say Paizo has done a lot to improve the transport, the packaging and the control since this release but you have to expect old mistakes if you buy old products.
I like the figures and they really help my AP setting but i'm a little sad seeing my Serpent Demon stabbing itself in the back because a dagger was paintglued to it's back.


Disappointed

2/5

This was my first foray into the world of collectible miniatures (other than occasionally purchasing a single I wanted), and sadly, was very disappointing. I bought a brick in the hopes that I could score the Efreet, which I have had no luck buying as a single. In that particular respect, this was a success... I got one in the last box of the brick.

However, has paint job was nowhere to the quality level of the product photograph. He was shiny and lacking in yellow just about anywhere... it was as if he missed a paint layer. In addition, they face was off as he has large, goggly white eyes.

Additionally, I have an Orc Archer with no head, and an Eagle Knight that broke off his base, leaving his feet behind. Almost to a figure, the kobolds look awful... they're almost entirely black and you can't really make out any details.

Based on this, I doubt I will buy any more Pathfinder Battles figures other than as single purchases... too many poor quality or otherwise useless figures for my taste.


Disappointing in a few ways

2/5

Yikes. Finally, after waiting months due to mess-up from the retailer I purchased it from, I was excited to come home to my Legends case today. Unfortunately, this case did not meet expectations.

The bad:

I did not receive a complete set. Not even close. I had duplicates of the Shaitan, Kobold King and Beatific One and did not receive Lini, the Efreeti, or Marid. The Efreeti and Lini are unavailable to purchase from paizo and they are going for about $25 each on Ebay. Additionally I only received only one miniature of the Knight of Ozem and the Eagle Knight Officer. Really that part isn't too disappointing, because...

Paint jobs. See other reviews, although mine didn't seem to be as bad as some others have experienced.

Broken Minis. 2 with broken parts and 3 off their bases. This was the worst case for me as far as damaged minis goes.

Final thoughts: This really wasn't a great case. I was prepared for poor paint quality and some damaged minis, but missing 3 rare minis, one of which an iconic, really doesn't work for me. I can't justify spending hundreds of dollars purchasing a case and then an extra $50 or more completing the set. From here out, I will be grabbing singles online of the miniatures I am most interested rather than drop hundreds on a product that is incomplete. I'm off to cancel my Reign of Winter case now.


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Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure, Lost Omens, Pawns, Rulebook Subscriber
roysier wrote:
Why have the bricks not shipped if ordered directly from Paizo?

Because Paizo doesn't ship them directly, they're handled by WizKids.


Pathfinder Maps, Starfinder Maps Subscriber
TriOmegaZero wrote:
roysier wrote:
Why have the bricks not shipped if ordered directly from Paizo?
Because Paizo doesn't ship them directly, they're handled by WizKids.

I dont think so. Paizo has bricks in stock, I believe. Everything this month has just been delayed by the pugwampis in the machine.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure, Lost Omens, Pawns, Rulebook Subscriber

I assumed he was referring to the other bricks in the distribution channels.


Pathfinder Maps, Starfinder Maps Subscriber

Ah. I probably misunderstood.

Grand Lodge

roysier wrote:

Why have the bricks not shipped if ordered directly from Paizo? The stores have them already. Are these going to ship anytime soon or should I cancel and buy them at the hobby stores.

In the past I would always get mine a few days before the stores had them which is why I ordered directly from Paizo. If the stores were going to get them first I would buy them at the stores.

It is never a guarantee that you will get a product before the stores. But what is good is that you WILL get something you ordered. I know it is a small compensation right now knowing full well you do not have the brick in hand and the stores do. But at least you know you will get it though. Sometimes before the rest of us.. sometimes after.

Lantern Lodge Customer Service Dire Care Bear Manager

We had some issues shipping new releases this month which means we are just now getting Legends of Golation shipped out to paizo.com customers.

Lantern Lodge Customer Service Dire Care Bear Manager

Paizo doesn't do distribution for the Battles minis. Purchases made through Paizo for these are all direct customer orders. Wizkids produces and works with the distribution network for getting these to game stores and other online retailers.


Sara Marie wrote:
We had some issues shipping new releases this month which means we are just now getting Legends of Golation shipped out to paizo.com customers.

Sorry to hear about the problems. But thank you for the heads up. I was thinking something was wrong. But now I know to just wait a little longer. :-)


So I got a booster yesterday and had a 50% success rate on the paint job. On the plus side, my Serpentfolk Mystic and pile of monkeys were fine. My Moon-Beast .. well, it looked not as good. The pink for its tentacles looked like it was rubbed on with a finger and some detail was lost. My wife commented that it looked like it was wearing a monkey suit. The Janni was ok, but the facial detail was incredibly lacking and its gloves/hands looked funny. Overall they are fine and can be used, but man the moon-beast looks horrible.

Sovereign Court

Sara Marie wrote:

We had some issues shipping new releases this month which means we are just now getting Legends of Golation shipped out to paizo.com customers.

This is all well and good, but it's not acceptable. Having a subscription to the minis line should not mean I get my shipment a month after release. More and more I am wondering why I am just not pre-ordering from one of the online stores instead of supporting you all directly.

At least an email explaining the issues would've been nice. Instead of having to ask around on another board as to the reason for the delay.

Paizo Employee Paizo Customer Service Algorithm

Cylyria wrote:
This is all well and good, but it's not acceptable. Having a subscription to the minis line should not mean I get my shipment a month after release.

While we try to ship our subscription shipments to have the miniatures arrive as close to the street date as possible we can't guarantee that we can do this for every release. We keep the Customer Service messageboards as up to date about subscriptions as we can, with the Monthly Subscription Shipment thread updated as close to real time as we can with new information regarding that months subscriptions.

On your My Subscriptions page you also have the 'Hold for Monthly Shipment' option selected. This will cause your miniatures to be delayed until the rest of your monthly subscription products are available to minimize shipping costs. If you would like your miniatures to ship as soon as possible you will want to select the 'Never hold anything' option.

Sovereign Court

What exactly is being held? The only other thing I have on subscription is the AP, and last I checked "Demons Heresy" has been out for a while.


Release date for Demon's Heresy is October 30th.

Sovereign Court

PDF is available Oct 30th. The hardcopy is out. Or did that book also fall into the "issues with shipping"?


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Cylyria wrote:
PDF is available Oct 30th. The hardcopy is out. Or did that book also fall into the "issues with shipping"?

Yes, all subscriptions got caught up in the drama this month. It sounds like they had some pretty major problems.


Sara Marie wrote:


If you'd rather not post it, you can send it to customer.service@paizo.com. Visual examples of issues are very useful.

I might have to do this, there's some pretty glaring issues with my case. I'll compile some pictures tomorrow night.


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Cylyria wrote:
PDF is available Oct 30th. The hardcopy is out. Or did that book also fall into the "issues with shipping"?

The PDF releases on the same date that the hardcopy is expected to be released. If you're seeing the hardcopy on sale somewhere, then someone has broken the "street date".

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Urath DM wrote:
Cylyria wrote:
PDF is available Oct 30th. The hardcopy is out. Or did that book also fall into the "issues with shipping"?
The PDF releases on the same date that the hardcopy is expected to be released. If you're seeing the hardcopy on sale somewhere, then someone has broken the "street date".

Really? Cause I am seeing it as the top seller on the front page of the Paizo site. Clicking on that link says the PDF is available on the 30th, but the hardcopy looks to be out to me.

And there are the posts of people talking about stuff in the AP itself. I assume they got it from somewhere?

Scarab Sages

Pathfinder Maps Subscriber

Top seller because of the subscriptions, they have all been processed at this point and are being shipped.

Scarab Sages

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People are talking about it because they either have received their subscription copy or they have got their shipping email and downloaded their PDFs.

Everything is on track. I received my shipment two days ago (I live about an hour from Paizo's offices) and downloaded my PDFs yesterday.

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Shem wrote:

People are talking about it because they either have received their subscription copy or they have got their shipping email and downloaded their PDFs.

And thus my point is made. I personally have heard nothing.

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

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Cylyria wrote:
Shem wrote:

People are talking about it because they either have received their subscription copy or they have got their shipping email and downloaded their PDFs.

And thus my point is made. I personally have heard nothing.

And if you would follow the thread about subscriptions, they're still cranking them out. I, for example, just received my e-mail yesterday.

Subscription != street date. Subscriptions are still being sent out. I don't know if I'm reading more hostility into your posts than you're intending, or if you're actually being hostile.

Eric K answered your question, promptyly politely and correctly. Whether you choose to accept that or not, doesn't change the facts.

Digital Products Assistant

A quick reminder: let's keep this thread on the topic of Legends of Golarion, please. If you are having an issue with your subscriptions, please post in the Customer Service forum.


I placed an order for a module and received it on Monday; it arrived 6 days after I ordered it. So, to say there is a problem with all shipping is incorrect.

I'm really disappointed that mini's ordered from Paizo.com are going out late. I order them from Paizo.com to get them earlier then the stores so I can hit the singles market early to fill in the mini's I'm missing before the more popular rare figures go out of stock. It’s ridiculous that they still have not shipped.

I guess I learned my lesson this time around ordering mini’s directly from Paizo.com is a mistake that I won’t repeat.

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

I went ahead and bought the iconics, demons and dragon (oh my!) now to wiat until December... (Picked ship with next shipment)


Can we get word from Paizo about all the reports of poor quality of these minis?

If we get poor quality minis, do we have the ability to exchange them through you?

Was the set rushed?

Liberty's Edge

Curmudgeonly wrote:

Can we get word from Paizo about all the reports of poor quality of these minis?

If we get poor quality minis, do we have the ability to exchange them through you?

Was the set rushed?

Paizo does not make these. Why would they owe you exchanges? If you are dissatisfied Wizkids is the manufacturer of this product and would be the people who you would seek recompense from if you feel cheated.

Sovereign Court Owner - Enchanted Grounds, President/Owner - Enchanted Grounds

Sara Marie wrote:
Drogon wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
Keep telling us about these—and better yet, link to photos; we'd like to make sure this is addressed with WizKids ASAP.
I can't post a picture of Sajan. It's too close to porn...
If you'd rather not post it, you can send it to customer.service@paizo.com. Visual examples of issues are very useful.

I send some pictures. If you need anything else just let me know.


It appears to me Wizkids did not do a quality check on their items coming off the assembly line. It's normally a standard part of the a factory process someone (or a machine) picks out poor quality products and throws them out. It looks like this time around this step was skipped.


graywulfe wrote:
Curmudgeonly wrote:

Can we get word from Paizo about all the reports of poor quality of these minis?

If we get poor quality minis, do we have the ability to exchange them through you?

Was the set rushed?

Paizo does not make these. Why would they owe you exchanges? If you are dissatisfied Wizkids is the manufacturer of this product and would be the people who you would seek recompense from if you feel cheated.

I bought them through Paizo, much like any other retailer, exchanges are common, or should be common practice.

Best Buy doesn't make laptops, but if they sell me a lemon, they will exchange it.

Sczarni

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure, Companion, Lost Omens Subscriber
Curmudgeonly wrote:
graywulfe wrote:
Curmudgeonly wrote:

Can we get word from Paizo about all the reports of poor quality of these minis?

If we get poor quality minis, do we have the ability to exchange them through you?

Was the set rushed?

Paizo does not make these. Why would they owe you exchanges? If you are dissatisfied Wizkids is the manufacturer of this product and would be the people who you would seek recompense from if you feel cheated.

I bought them through Paizo, much like any other retailer, exchanges are common, or should be common practice.

Best Buy doesn't make laptops, but if they sell me a lemon, they will exchange it.

The difference is that Best Buy can return the defective items to the distributor and get their money back, who then send the product back to the original company so they can get their money back. Wizkids doesn't offer this to the distributors, so they don't offer it to the retailers, so they don't offer it to the customers. The preferred method of replacements is instead dealing directly with wizkids


The other difference is a lap top sold at Best Buy is not marketed as a "Best Buy Laptop". It's marketed as a Dell or IBM or Apple etc.

While I understand and agree WizKids should address the quality issues that seem to have cropped into this product line, I also know if I were Paizo I would want lots of proof to use in my conversations with WizKids. It is Paizo's name on the product. Pathfinder is Paizo's IP and their brand. I would be shocked if Paizo weren't already discussing the issue with WizKids.

WizKids should make good on the worst defects. But I am not holding my breath for replacements for most "bad paint jobs".

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My case arrived, and I'm very happy with it.

I got the whole shebang, although I was nervous until the final box revealed an efreeti.

Yes, there are some painting goofs. Probably an hour or so of touch-ups will make them irrelevant. I know some folks find this much more irritating than I do, but I expect some flaws in mass-production painting.

I'm glad Wizkids has moved toward less packaging but, if further improvements are possible, I'd love to send even less to recylcling. I'm at a loss to suggest what those improvements would be, so maybe this is just as good as it gets.

The two changes I'd most like to see in the line going forward are:

1. A decision at the concept level to avoid long, narrow pieces like rapiers and spears. Flatter, wider blades will be easier to unwarp.

2. A similar concept decision to go for higher-contrast paint jobs. The hellknight/Thrune/signifer figures look cool, and I'm not against the dried-blood red of their outfits, but my favorite minis are almost always those with brighter, higher-contrast paint schemes. The smaller the mini, the more I want to see its detail emphasized by the paint.


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Just opened my case, and I'm pretty happy. I've got Shattered Star and RotRL minis to compare with, and in general these are of similar quality. There were a few messy paint jobs (King Irovetti actually looks terrible), but the same was true with my last case. A little touch up will take care of most of them. If I didn't have paints and brushes, they would probably bother me more.

Most of the minis are excellent. The Fire Demon actually looks even better than the pictures. So does the Greater Death Demon. The orcs all look great, especially when I put them in a group.

There are a few minis I was kind of disappointed in:

The Akatas are a great sculpt, but they appear to only have one paint step on the body. It's just a solid blue. This doesn't seem to be a result of sloppiness; all four of mine are the same. I can improve them, but as it is they look kind of silly.

The Snow Leopard is kind of a failure overall. The sculpt is poorly proportioned (head size to body size is kittenish) and the paint is kind of a dull grey. The tail is kind of small, which is unfortunate for an animal with a tail as impressive as a snow leopard's. If I really need snow leopards in a campaign, I'll probably end up using the Droogami mini from Reaper, which is excellent.

The Scourge Hellknight is a perfectly good sculpt, but I agree with the excellent author above me that they are very low contrast. They look kind of flat and dusty, and they just don't impress me at all.

I was also missing one miniature from a booster pack, and a kobold broke off it's base when it was pulled out. There were no other breakages.

My only other disappointment is that I only got two moon beasts. I need something like 6....


"Shadar Aman wrote:

I was also missing one miniature from a booster pack, and a kobold broke off it's base when it was pulled out.

Does anyone know if Wizkids actually addresses the "miniature completely missing from booster" problem? I've seen a few people point to their website, but all that they seem to deal with is broken miniatures that you have to send proof of. They make that process as seemingly difficult as possible, so I feel like there would be a big lack of empathy for a completely missing miniature.


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In_digo wrote:
"Shadar Aman wrote:

I was also missing one miniature from a booster pack, and a kobold broke off it's base when it was pulled out.

Does anyone know if Wizkids actually addresses the "miniature completely missing from booster" problem? I've seen a few people point to their website, but all that they seem to deal with is broken miniatures that you have to send proof of. They make that process as seemingly difficult as possible, so I feel like there would be a big lack of empathy for a completely missing miniature.

I will certainly give it a shot, and if they're willing to replace it I'll update here. I got a full set, though, so I'm not incredibly motivated to get one more.


In_digo wrote:
"Shadar Aman wrote:

I was also missing one miniature from a booster pack, and a kobold broke off it's base when it was pulled out.

Does anyone know if Wizkids actually addresses the "miniature completely missing from booster" problem? I've seen a few people point to their website, but all that they seem to deal with is broken miniatures that you have to send proof of. They make that process as seemingly difficult as possible, so I feel like there would be a big lack of empathy for a completely missing miniature.

I actually wonder about this as well. I had a missing miniature in one of my Shattered Star cases, although I never contacted WizKids about it, as it was the only discrepancy of the case.

I can’t say how hard or difficult WizKids tries to make the process as I haven’t sent anything in to be replaced. But I will say I wish they were more easily contacted than just through the replacement program or email. They are big enough where they should have a customer service number of some sort.

And still waiting on my subscription cases (for Legends of Golarian). :(


Shadar Aman wrote:
Just opened my case, and I'm pretty happy. I've got Shattered Star and RotRL minis to compare with, and in general these are of similar quality. There were a few messy paint jobs (King Irovetti actually looks terrible), but the same was true with my last case. A little touch up will take care of most of them. If I didn't have paints and brushes, they would probably bother me more.

Is there anything I need to know about touching-up miniatures? Just paint right over it? Spray on a finish?

Scarab Sages

Pathfinder Maps Subscriber

This is the first case where I had no breakage and as I said in the Skull & Shackles thread - I have figured out that how you take them out of the packaging has a lot to do with the issue of minis being pulled off the base.

I was missing one mini from a booster pack but who knows what mini it was supposed to be.

I have already ordered everything I wanted to fill in from ebay and should have them all by next week.

I am happy with the set and not as worried about the paint jobs as some folks here. I buy these because I do not want to paint and I find them so superior to the old DDM figures that I have totally replaced some types of figures with those that come in Pathfinder Battles.

That is all...


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Brocimus wrote:
Shadar Aman wrote:
Just opened my case, and I'm pretty happy. I've got Shattered Star and RotRL minis to compare with, and in general these are of similar quality. There were a few messy paint jobs (King Irovetti actually looks terrible), but the same was true with my last case. A little touch up will take care of most of them. If I didn't have paints and brushes, they would probably bother me more.

Is there anything I need to know about touching-up miniatures? Just paint right over it? Spray on a finish?

I just paint right over it and call it done. You might want to wash the mini first to make sure there aren't any oils on the part you're painting, but that's the most work I'm willing to do for a pre-painted mini.


The replacement program is excruciating. They charge for shipping, which is annoying, but understandable. On top of that, I've discovered they don't allow more than 5 replacements in a package (so for any breakages beyond 5, your doubling, tripling, etc the shipping cost), and they don't allow you to return anything in the same package unless it is of the exact same set (so, in my most recent case, I had 7 miniatures, 3 from sets other than skull & shackles. Needless to say, for $5 a pop a package, three were thrown in a scrap bin).
The arbitrary restraints are the real kickers. They really feel like an attempt to dissuade customers from sending in miniatures that need to be replaced.


Yes, that does sound like a complete pain to deal with. I think the most broken/missing minis I've had on all my sets is 5, and it doesn't sound like I will be attempting to replace them. I can see why yourself, or others, would be miffed.

I think they obviously don't want miniatures to have to be replaced, but I agree they shouldn't set the program up to make it difficult (therefore disouraging) for customers to do so.

How much did they charge for shipping costs? I know it can of course vary depending on where you are at, but at least it would give an idea.


I purchased a case and didn't have any major problems. I thought the paint jobs looked good. A few commons had some derpy eyes but no issues with the uncommons or rares. I didn't notice any spots where paint was missing. As for breakage, I had one pack where the toad demon came loose and pulverized the goblin in the pack into 5 pieces. (That toad demon is built like a rock). And my marid came off its base. (The marid seems out of proportion with the other three genies, being much larger than them, as well). Otherwise, nothing broke. The marid was easy enough to glue back down, and the goblin I got four more of them, so I didn't care.
Also, I got the full set in my case again, so that's always a plus.
Keep it up.

Silver Crusade

As of this comment, Legends of Golarion is a 2.5 star product. I have been holding out making any purchases until I see some (semi-)official comments explaining why the paint quality seems to have been so hit and miss this time around.


Can some of you who had positive to semi-positive experiences please write a review on the reviews page? Although there have been some quality issues there is no way that this is only a 2.5 star set, and certainly not the 1 star's its been getting.


Sad to report Leo, I agree with Nik. This set has a few winners, but the number of poor paint jobs errors, mis-assembles, etc is very high.

This is the first set I feel went backwards in quality.


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Hopefully we'll see a blog addressing this issue, maybe even with a guest author from WizKids. The amount of complaints we're seeing here is inexcusable. It seems like WizKids is going out of their way to show quality product to Paizo for the approvals and then letting quality suffer for consumers. Somebody is going to have to answer for that or people are going to stop buying these which would be a damn shame. My favorite minis are from PFB but I can't justify buying cases any more after the decline in quality.


For as much as I love the figs, even I have to admit that there are a few where the paints are lackluster. Not to mention, the orc archers all have the strings on the wrong side of the arm (which is fixable...but annoying none-the-less), I had a few figs come broken (again, fixable...but still), and I had a fig that came only as a base. It had no figure attached to the base at all. It was a kobold chieftain, so not that big of a deal...but that sort of thing shouldn't happen.

On the bright side, I did pull a full set and we were able to put the pieces to use Saturday night during a fight.


I wonder if the speed with which the sets are coming out now is affecting quality?

Grand Lodge

I am not seeing the issues others have. Other then maybe having one figure off of the base which is not a big deal that a little glue can't fix.
I love the sculpts I am seeing in this set. As far as the paint jobs.. as I mentioned earlier in this thread. It is what it is and I do like what I am seeing for paint jobs. I do not expect Demon Sword quality nor am I seeing the crappy paint jobs others are seeing.

I do think some people are being overly picky but can not blame them either too. I use the DDM line in comparison and think that this set and all the other Pathfinder Battles line STILL blow DDM miniatures out of the water. This set has some amazing sculpts and replace many many of my DDM minis too.

Thanks!! :)

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