It actually isn't even an exaggeration with the qualifiers I gave. Granted, to ensure this works, your scythe ally may have to use a mythic point to get an extra action (using it to move next to the enemy, then coup de grace), so in that case, it's limited by your ally.It's limited by a few other things as well, like there only being one target you and your ally can afford to concentrate on for a round, there being no other enemies nearby who want to take advantage of the AoO provoked by performing a coup, that sort of thing. But still, yeah. It's really ridiculously potent.
Yep, certainly--when I said "any non-mythic creature", I just meant one creature. But that one creature can be arbitrarily high-CR (unless it has Fortitude saves in the +40s or so, in which case it can just shrug off the coup de grace, but I don't think we have any nonmythic monsters right now who do). Since it only uses up two party members to do so, I suppose that also means that any level 1 tier 1 party of Size N (composed of half witches and half scythers) winning initiative can one round a group of N/2 nonmythic enemies regardless of CR, but there we start running into AoOs if the enemies have Combat Reflexes or Uncanny Dodge, so it's not fully applicable in all cases.
Well, I know that my witch player who doesn't use slumber hex will greatly appreciate that mythic power... he has horrible luck with enemy saving throws.
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It actually isn't even an exaggeration with the qualifiers I gave. Granted, to ensure this works, your scythe ally may have to use a mythic point to get an extra action (using it to move next to the enemy, then coup de grace), so in that case, it's limited by your ally. I mean, I expect mythic PCs to be very strong against nonmythic enemies, but a CR 15 monster, say, should be able to defeat (or at least non automatically lose if it loses initiative against) a level 1 tier 1 party.Hold on, are you saying that non-mythic targets don't get a save against mythic hexes? That's a bit crazy... a witch with split hex can basically take out two enemies per round. Well, until the mythic power runs out at least.Not exactly. Non-mythic targets are automatically affected by a mythic hex for 1 round; they don't save until round 2. RE is just saying that mythic slumber is basically game over for any non-mythic target. That's a bit of an exaggeration... but only a bit of one. That's a ridiculously potent combo, for sure.
I can see where this can be a problem. I'm just gonna bring it to my group and houserule it that potent hexes like slumber and such when used as mythic (with or without the expenditure of mythic power) targets get a -5 or some penalty to the save. Things like misfortune and such I'm not too concerned about.
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Haven't gotten my download yet, le sigh. Oh well, will just have to content myself with reading the bits mentioned here,
Nope.
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Wouldn't a mythic lycanthrope just be a mythic humanoid who contracted lycanthropy?
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Not quite. There is the Mythic Vampire and Mythic Lich, which are both templates that specifically replace the Mythic Tiers of a creature with Mythic Ranks. And they are templates. So I think there's room for a Mythic Lycanthrope.
Well, the one presented in the book is CR 17 with a Mythic Tier of 7. It gets all the stuff a normal lich does, plus it gets increased channel resist, a phylactery that can't be harmed by non-mythic people, Mythic Spell casting, and the ability to, as an immediate action, counter a spell. Higher ranking ones can also heal every time they cast magic spells and treat level 1 spells like cantrips. It can auto detect casters within 60 ft of it and gets some Hierophant and Archmage abilities. All in all, very nasty.
The Ascension spell is still there, no worries.
I'd have to reread artifacts. I really loved the Aegis. Gives you bonuses to AC and you can turn people into stone.
I wouldn't really consider it a nerf, since for a while, the only thing that had DR/Epic was the tarrasque. And a +6 and beyond weapon is pretty expensive, so I wouldn't count on seeing someone with it till the mid teens.
At that point, its like, "Oh no! Your mildly expensive weapon is overcoming the damage reduction of my Tarrasque! If only it had nearly two pages of other rules that it could use to remind you why it is the highest CR monster printed before the release of Mythic Adventures!"
I don't know, I personally think the wording may mean that a +5 Bane or Furious weapon can bypass DR/Epic, since it technically counts as having a higher enhancement bonus than +5 when used properly.
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I'm not really a fan of the change to let nonepic weapons bypass epic damage reduction. Basically, it comes down to balance:
a simple fact of weapon optimization is that pure enhancement bonuses are really underpowered compared to the abilities weapons can get. If you are optimized, then for most of the game your fighter should have a +1 <good abilities> weapon, and very rarely is a +5 weapon preferable.Back in 3.5, when weapons with enhancement bonuses higher than +5 were allowed (but for 10 times the cost, and only craftable by epic characters), DR/epic was pretty much the only incentive to get an enhancement bonus higher than the required +1.
Now, with abilities counting towards epicness, there is even less reason to get weapons with enhancement bonuses rather than abilities.
On the other hand, the abilities on weapons, in addition to being far more powerful, tend to be, IMO, more interesting, so perhaps removing the last shred of incentive to get +X weapons is a good thing.
Just a minor point they is a reason to get weapons with a greater than +1 bonus due to the new rules on DR.
Page 562 CRB on Damage reduction: +3 overcomes cold/iron, +4 overcomes adamantine, and +5 overcomes alignment based DRs.
Figured you might have been aware of that change.
The Adamantine Golem also has DR/epic. And I for one like the new change to how to overcome epic. Most people at least in my group pick up weapons from encounters and use that as their main weapon and yes we could buy +6 and higher weapons but we mostly don't since there's so many other magic items people want. I think at best 1 player, maybe two, out of 5 will be able to bypass DR/epic. Just my 2cp.
Ah, I figured there was a creature I forgot. Also include the Hekatonkheires and Thanatonic Titans. Surprisingly not the Elysian Titan
So, can someone that has it tell me how To the Death and Mythic Toughness stack up to how they used to? Also, Sustained by Faith?
I am still waiting for the printed version and we are still using the playtest .. maybe someone can answer a quick question:
Is there a mythic version of the feats TwoWeaponFighting and Weapon Focus in the book?
I am still waiting for the printed version and we are still using the playtest .. maybe someone can answer a quick question:
Is there a mythic version of the feats TwoWeaponFighting and Weapon Focus in the book?
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I really don't feal that this cover art makes me think mythic or anything close, kinda disapointing. Maybe if the dragon was covered in glowing runes or had a halo of light around it.
This book and Ultimate Campaign have not convinced me to reniew my subscription to this line anytime soon.
Is it the art that keeps you from renewing your subscription or the actual content of the book?
If it is the latter, then I totally agree with you for Ultimate Campaign. Mythic Adventures, however, is an outstanding book IMO.
Love the mythic tier abilities and spells. I would put the mythic feats at the bottom of the things I like about the book (and I still liked those too!)
Archmage was my favorite Tier
So where is the ability to grant spells? Couldn't find it.It's the Tier 3 Universal Path ability Divine Source (yes, your fighter can grant spells), on page 51.
Let's go back to this for a moment. How does this work?
Argh. Got ship notices for the minis, but not the books *sigh*
Argh. Got ship notices for the minis, but not the books *sigh*I feel your pain. Nothing yet...
My subscription has been pending since Friday. It's maddening!
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I was looking over the pdf, and besides seeing that casters have a massive upper hand as usual, I noticed an error in the mythic spells part. On page 103 it says "POWER WORD KILL
Treat the target’s current hit point total as though it were
lowered by 5 times your tier. For example, a 3rd-tier archmage
casting mythic power word kill would instantly kill a creature
with 85 hit points or fewer."
This is incorrect, they did the math backwards. It would instantly kill a creature with 115 HP or fewer, as lowering the 101 hit point threshold makes the spell weaker.
The wording is correct. In your example, you would treat a 115 HP creature as if it had 100 HP.
The wording is correct. In your example You treat a 115 HP creature as if it had 100 HP.
Yes, my point exactly. That is treating it as if its HP(115>=) is lowered by the tier*5 (15) to 100>=.
With the book's wording, it's treating the creature's HP(85>=) as if it were raised by the tier*5(15) to 100>=.
The wording is correct. In your example You treat a 115 HP creature as if it had 100 HP.Yes, my point exactly. That is treating it as if its HP(115>=) is lowered by the tier*5 (15) to 100>=.
With the book's wording, it's treating the creature's HP(85>=) as if it were raised by the tier*5(15) to 100>=.
Can you post the actual language?
The target number for PWK does not change (i.e 100 HP). The way that reads (to me anyway). Is that the 3rd tier guy can now target the 115 HP guy, but as far as the caster is concerned, the target would only have 100 for purposes of the effect of the spell.
Granted it could have been worded a bit more clearly by simply saying add 5 HP/Tier to the upper end of the range for the spell, but as written it is saying that exact same thing.
F5 F5 F5
...F5 F5 F5 F5 DING!
'Scuse me, back in a few hours :)
Though I do know that it's an imposition, would anyone be able to perhaps say if TTD, Sustained by Faith, and Mythic Toughness have changed too much? Those are pretty much the only things I need to worry about ASAP for my game before being able to grab the proper book...
Can you post the actual language?The wording is correct. In your example You treat a 115 HP creature as if it had 100 HP.Yes, my point exactly. That is treating it as if its HP(115>=) is lowered by the tier*5 (15) to 100>=.
With the book's wording, it's treating the creature's HP(85>=) as if it were raised by the tier*5(15) to 100>=.
I did in my original post, it's in quotes.
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Sorry to hear this, but not exactly surprised. Can't wait to see the Mythic Campaign Setting poduct, chock full of mythic wizards and clerics...and some 3rd/2nd level Warrior/Expert with a single mythic tier to represent non-casters.
Nothing on Mythic Wish?
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and besides seeing that casters have a massive upper hand as usual...Sorry to hear this, but not exactly surprised. Can't wait to see the Mythic Campaign Setting poduct, chock full of mythic wizards...and some 3rd/2nd level Warrior/Commoner with a single mythic tier.
Named Yrag Xagyg, to add insult to injury. ;-)
Nothing on Mythic Wish?
What do you mean?
Nothing on Mythic Wish?What do you mean?
The Wish spell that is mythic in this book.
The Wish spell that is mythic in this book.Nothing on Mythic Wish?What do you mean?
What do you want to know about it?