Ettercaps are not cool, there just another spider themed monster and not even a good one at that.
Ettercaps are not cool, there just another spider themed monster and not even a good one at that.
No they aren't cute little females with wings or huge dragons with all colors from the rainbow.
The Ettercap says sorry for lacking those beautiful colors and female features. (ps, they are also into scorpions, not just spiders)
Ettercaps can be very nice to any story if you use them right, spider/scorpion shepherds for the drow for example, or minions of a bebilith.
Mites on the other hand are created to be NON-cool creatures, they were created to suck at everything, being the most pathetic creature of all, I think they made the right choise of leaving them out this product.
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Mites on the other hand are created to be NON-cool creatures, they were created to suck at everything, being the most pathetic creature of all, I think they made the right choise of leaving them out this product.
but they make a great Hollandase sauce.
They may be pushovers, but they were memorable.
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as always worth mentioning, what is cool is an opinion, not a fact.
I'd like to have seen the mites, because I think they are cool exactly for being that kind of pathetic.
Ettercaps however are just boring. They are pathetic too, but i a totally different way. Also, ettercaps have no business being on this thread as they are not even fey.
I am sure mites will get at least a passing mention if not more.
I'd like to have seen the mites, because I think they are cool exactly for being that kind of pathetic.
Ettercaps however are just boring. They are pathetic too, but i a totally different way. Also, ettercaps have no business being on this thread as they are not even fey.
You just called all level 0,1 and 2 creatures pathetic.
Being a level 3 creature (and so being much stronger than your average pathetic peasant) is not pathetic, being a below level 1 creature is however.
It would be interesting to know who worked on what.
Will this have information about The Tane?
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Will this have information about The Tane?
nope. According to the 2012-2013 Product catalog the Fey involved are:
2)Nymph
3)Redcap
4)Leprechuan
5)Satyr
6)Gremlins
7)Sprites
8)Resulka
9)Norn
10)Nuckalavee
None of which are members of the Tane. The Tane are: The Jabberwock, The Thrasfyr, and The Sard.
But if and when they do a gazetter book for the First World I am sure there will more info on the Tanes and other things of interest.
Will this have information about The Tane?nope. According to the 2012-2013 Product catalog the Fey involved are:
** spoiler omitted **None of which are members of the Tane. The Tane are: The Jabberwock, The Thrasfyr, and The Sard.
And the Bandersnatch and the Jub-Jub Bird. I'm noticing most of them are from Alice in Wonderland/Through the Looking Glass.
Will this have information about The Tane?nope. According to the 2012-2013 Product catalog the Fey involved are:
** spoiler omitted **None of which are members of the Tane. The Tane are: The Jabberwock, The Thrasfyr, and The Sard.
And the Bandersnatch and the Jub-Jub Bird. I'm noticing most of them are from Alice in Wonderland/Through the Looking Glass.
Yes Alice, the Varisian/Chlexian Harrower who hunts evil Fae with her magic cards and Vorpal sword, and tries to make sense of the First World as she wanders through it trying to find the white rabbit.
Alice isn't from Golarion, she is from earth and English but she may not be human anymore considering how much time she spend in that "Wonderland" place in the First World.
Alice isn't from Golarion, she is from earth and English but she may not be human anymore considering how much time she spend in that "Wonderland" place in the First World.
True, I tried to find a way to put Alice in, but apparently my efforts were in vain. :( Though I'm glad I tried. :)
Well at least the Leprechaun made it, I was surprised he did to be honest. I do like Dryads, Nymphs, Gremlins, Leprechauns, Redcaps, Norns, Rusalkas, Satyrs. I am not as big on Sprites(Pathfinder) as I am Pixies, Nixies, Atomies, and Grigs. but if it means getting several variants including more powerful ones then I am fine. Still would have liked to have had the Quickling or Bogeyman(etc.) over the Nucklavee but it could have been worse, it could have been the Lurker in the light or the Coldrider.
I like the cold riders!
I know most got to be classic fey, for me the best fey to include would be: redcap, norn, fomorian, jermalaine, al-jahar-dazzle, frost-uldra, quickling, reigar, splinterwaif, leshy - not the plant.
Uuuuhhh, the cold rider! +1 for that one.
I still think Pixies are far more used and iconic and versatile and fun than Sprites. Sprites are nothing but Pixie-wannabies.
Sheesh, reminds me of a younger brother trying to imitate the original bigger brother.
*tries to affect devs with lesser confusion, and shoots an arrow with charm effect*
Ruyan.
Well the problem with that list Numerian is that the revisited books deal with creatures who's stats have been done and half that list are creatures that have no stats.
Wait a second.... is the Splinterwaif a real folklore creature???? I thought it was only a D&D creation??? I can't find anything on the evil dryad (splinterwaif) on google... only D&D stuff.
Nymph-some variant types and the one stated up will have sorcerer levels
Dryad-some druid levels added would be nice some variant ones based on terrain(forest, jungle, island, etc.).
Satyr-Ranger levels
Norns-not advanced with class levels just a CR20+ version would be fine.
Leprechaun-levels in Bard or Rouge or maybe stats for there king.
Nuckalavee-not advanced with class levels but with HD and racial abilities.
Gremlins-a new type would be better then advancing an existing one.
Sprites-some variants and a new type.
Redcaps-some variants and one with class levels(Barbarian or Fighter)
Rusalka-class levels in sorcerer, oracle, or witch.
Hopeful for fey form polymorph spells.
Definetly interested in these tokens they give to favorite mortals.
Are these your "What I would like to see" list, Dragon? Or do you post the list in response to some comment I can't see (anymore)?
My take:
Color me interested in the tokens the they can bestow, too.
Ruyan.
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GRRRRR! No mention of noble fey or Sidhe leaders, or courts! Me want fairy courts for PCs to dance to the piping of! Fairy Lord Sidhe smash!
Where is Spring-Heeled Jack? A leaping fairy that spits fireballs and has cold iron heeled boots doesn't beat out dryads?
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GRRRRR! No mention of noble fey or Sidhe leaders, or courts! Me want fairy courts for PCs to dance to the piping of! Fairy Lord Sidhe smash!
Where is Spring-Heeled Jack? A leaping fairy that spits fireballs and has cold iron heeled boots doesn't beat out dryads?
That's because Golarion has no fey lords/sidhe/seelie/unseelie stuff.
What it does have is the First World and the Eldest.
But that doesn't mean we will never see anything along those lines Gorbacz. Though it will not be in this book since this a revisited book so it will only focus on known fey.
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But that doesn't mean we will never see anything along those lines Gorbacz. Though it will not be in this book since this a revisited book so it will only focus on known fey.
True but I think the chances are small, as they would need to add a whole subsystem of fairie that is not part of Golarion. I love the Seelie court but it's not a fit for Golarion yet.
But anything is possible, I suppose with all the fun "real world" influences included thus far.
They can still be in the hardcover bestiaries since there world neutral.
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You can have Sidhe nobility without having seelie and unseelie courts. In folklore Fairies were often arranged in kingdoms, but those nations were very very local to specific regions, and were not considered to represent ALL fairies.
Golarion has all sorts of nobility, but that doesn't mean there is a high king (or even a king in many cases).
I hope we will also get a Gazetteer for the First World sometime next year as well.
That's because Golarion has no fey lords/sidhe/seelie/unseelie stuff.
What about the Court of Ether with its Queen Frilogarma in Nar-Voth?
Sounds close enough to me and would fit the bill perfectly, but since almost nothing has been done with this information, and this line is about expanding on already known stuff, it makes sense to stick to less complex stuff, namely monster types and their ecology, and expand on those.
Ruyan.
Queen Frilograma sounds like a weak version of Queen Mab.
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I'd like a type of gremlin that starts off cute and fluffy, but mutates if it eats after midnight. Then it multiplies when exposed to water, but explodes in sunlight.
Just sayin'.
I'm wondering if there will be the option available to play a Satyr. I always wanted to play a Bard or Druid (or even both!) of one.
More then likely there will not be rules to play any of these guys in this book but you could use the Advance Races Guide's race creation rules to get something close enough.
I would also like a type of gremlin like that darth_borehd:)
I can't wait to see these "tokens" that they can grant to mortals.
Do we know when the final cover art will be finalized?
I would like to see the finalized art as well but it more then likely be next month, maybe by the end of this one if were lucky.
I see this got pushed back to may, hopefully it will not get pushed back anymore then this. Also it would be cool to get this and the one about the dragons in the same month.
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I hope they use a Dunter in there, an advanced Redcap.
More then likely they will give the redcap class levels wich will be the case for most if not all the example creatures in this book. These books tend use class levels, templates, and monster advancement rules for there example creature. Since fey tend to be humaniod in shape giving them class levels makes sense. Though they may surprise us so who knows.
Rules for half-fey characters, please!!!
More then likely they will give the redcap class levels wich will be the case for most if not all the example creatures in this book. These books tend use class levels, templates, and monster advancement rules for there example creature. Since fey tend to be humaniod in shape giving them class levels makes sense. Though they may surprise us so who knows.
They still put the variations of creatures in there though, correct? In the various "Revisited" books I own, they throw numerous variations of the creature in there, so perhaps the dunter will make that list!
Each creature will get one example with stats plus I am sure some will have rules for variants in the form of simple templates.
I really doubt that we will get any rules for fey races in this book. If they do have new playable races they would be in things like bestairies or the bestiary section of an AP.
In one story I read the Dunter (normally just another name to call a redcap) was actually an advanced Redcap who killed more than a thousand or what victims and dripped its caps in all their blood to become a Dunter, much like how Barghests become Greater Barghests.
Well maybe they thought to call the example redcap, the Dunter, but wether this redcap has class levels, is an advanced version, or both is up to who ever did that section.