Pathfinder Society Scenario #4-EX: Day of the Demon (PFRPG) PDF

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A Pathfinder Society Scenario designed for levels 3–7 (Tier 3–7; Subtiers 3–4 and 6–7).

The Blakros family, long an ally of the Pathfinder Society, has come into possession of a manor house in the imperial nation of Cheliax, where a once prominent noble family was known to practice diabolism before the Age of Lost Omens. The Pathfinders' task is simple: clear the abandoned manor of any remaining threats before the Blakroses move in. Unfortunately, the estate hasn't sat empty as long as the Blakroses think it has, and its recent inhabitants were anything but the devil-worshipers who originally built the manor.

"Day of the Demon" is an exclusive adventure to be run only by 4-star Pathfinder Society GMs, Venture-Captain and Venture-Lieutenant campaign volunteers, and Paizo staff for its first year.

Written by Larry Wilhelm.

This scenario is designed for play in Pathfinder Society Organized Play, but can easily be adapted for use with any world. This scenario is compliant with the Open Game License (OGL) and is suitable for use with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game.

Note: This scenario has been updated from its exclusive version for public release and is now available as Pathfinder Society Scenario #5–14.

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Lots of buildup but little action

3/5

Demon is a decent story-based investigation scenario with some good flavor.

The creepy roleplay aspect of this scenario is where it really shines and should be the most memorable aspect of this scenario.

The manor also has an excellent haunted house feel, and there is definitely a fear of the unknown. What kind of hellhole are you walking into?

The main weakness of this scenario is that there's a lot of exposition (box text) and investigation without a lot happening. It vaguely reminds me of "Haunting of Hinojai", but more happened in Haunting. There were limited combats but also limited things to find. Maybe we missed something?

Empty rooms with several lines of box text each can take significant session time and can ruin the pacing of the scenario, especially if the room-to-room searching isn't expedited. This isn't to say empty rooms are bad, but they could contain less irrelevant details (box text) and GMs should adapt their style.

There aren't a lot of combats in this scenario, so I feel that the optional combat should be used especially if the players bypass other combats.

There were a lot of handouts in this scenario, which I appreciated, although I'm not sure if everyone was as interested. It's a bit jarring to have no handouts in most scenarios and then six (?) in this scenario. Less would have been better.

The story that was told through the hand outs about the farmers was good, but I didn't understand or appreciate the metaplot storyline since I've played limited season 4 scenarios.

Also, I found the end story a little unrealistic.

End story:

In the last hand out, we found out that the main bad guy was going to take a few dozen small time criminals, perhaps supplemented with (weak) demons, and "destroy Absalom".

First of all, Absalom has enough firepower to lay down a beat down of epic proportions to anything trying to destroy it. So give me a break.

I thought we learned our lesson with "Silent Tide"? It would take something extremely powerful to threaten Absalom, which would instantly make it beyond level 3-7 PCs. Those type of threats are for level 14 PCs, which is beyond the scope of PFS. Leave saving the world for APs, in PFS we just want to contribute in some meaningful way.

Also, if the NPC had the power to destroy Absalom, why would he leave letters around bragging about it and spoiling his plan? Seems silly. Can't we advance the plot in a more sophisticated way (something we'd at least have to figure out, possibly failing)?

Although the ending was suitably creepy and gory, it was anti-climatic and wasn't challenging at all. I think one PC took 5 damage. From falling. Exclusives at tier 3-7 aren't the time for soft encounters. EDIT: This scenario is not an easy scenario, there are two deadly encounters in it that were both bypassed and skipped when I played it. You've been warned.

Also, there was a story element that forced the GM to cheat and use GM fiat to control, if the players made certain choices. I really dislike it when an adventure forces GM to break standard Pathfinder rules to ensure a certain storyline happens. To make it clear, I don't blame the GM at all, I blame the scenario. PCs should be allowed to do what they want to do without breaking adventures. This is major pet peeve of mine.

I did not feel that the title of this scenario spoiled the scenario.

Detailed Rating:

Length: Medium (4 hours). It could run a lot faster. We were slow in the briefing, searching empty rooms, and in general. We skipped the optional encounter.
Experience: Player with 7 well built PC at subtier 3-4.
Sweet Spot: TBD.
Entertainment: I liked the buildup of tension, but the conclusion wasn't satisfying. (7/10)
Story: Story will be lost to players who didn't play prior season 4 scenarios. Future storyline is too epic for PFS. I liked the handouts. (7/10)
Roleplay: I liked how you can bypass encounter #2. I also liked the main sidekick NPC. (8/10)
Combat/Challenges: Last encounter was too easy and the encounters in general were not unique enough. A big step back from Golemworks. (6/10)
Maps: It looked great on paper, but ours was drawn on-the-fly. Probably bad for people who like to draw on-the-fly. (7/10)
Boons: Significant and good boon. Only 1 person at my table of 7 achieved it. (8/10)
Uniqueness: It kept us guessing for awhile. (8/10)
Faction Missions: Average. Missions didn't contain any obscure skills, which was appreciated. (8/10)

Overall: This scenario had excellent flavor, but not enough happened. I also dislike adventures that force GM fiat to complete pre-scripted storylines. This scenario deserves 4 stars based on flavor, unfortunately I can't get the taste of 'Magical Tea Party' out of my mouth. (7/10)


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I just got back from playing this, it was tough, I have trouble seeing how a party of appropriate level standard pathfinder characters can survive this.

Spoiler:
We played this at the low tier although I brought a 6th level character, we couldn't survive the 4th fight because no one could overcome the darkness. I don't see how 3rd level characters which everyone else brought could be expected to be prepared to cast daylight or a similar spell.

This was fun but difficult when not power-gaming.


Matt Seay wrote:

I just got back from playing this, it was tough, I have trouble seeing how a party of appropriate level standard pathfinder characters can survive this.

** spoiler omitted **
This was fun but difficult when not power-gaming.

I've run it three times with no power builds present, including once with essentially all pregens (one was a cleric who was worse than pregen Kyra, the other three were pregen bard, pregen druid, and pregen paladin) and they won every time. The pregen party actually annihilated the scenario, with the surest win of any of the groups (the other two times were touch-and-go, but they were playing up with 5 characters that averaged to level 5 both times and never had any level 7s, and they had to fight the 6 player 6-7 version--

Spoiler:
which has 3 babaus instead of 1.

One thing--it's not deeper darkness, only darkness, so if nobody in the party has darkvision, you can beat it with the 2nd level spells darkvision or alter self, and any character can spend 2 PP for an oil of daylight, which I generally recommend, along with a potion of fly if you're melee, ASAP. Blind-fight is a big help too if you have it--it makes fighting in the dark not so bad.


uncleden wrote:

I just got my 4th star over the weekend. What is the process for this to show up in my downloads?

Den

I am in the same boat; got my 4th star over the weekend. Some folks are itching for me to run this exclusive. Do I need to do something special to get access to this scenario?

Thanks

Rod

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Matt Seay wrote:

I just got back from playing this, it was tough, I have trouble seeing how a party of appropriate level standard pathfinder characters can survive this.

** spoiler omitted **
This was fun but difficult when not power-gaming.

The fight in question:
Let's see...

One-third of playable races in PFS are completely uninhibited by darkness.
Darkvision is a 2nd-level spell, thus not beyond reason to have access to at 3rd-4th level. It's also a mere 300gp as a potion, and anyone with at least 5 Fame (at 3rd level and up, that's everyone) can purchase it as such.
An oil of daylight costs 750gp or 2PP, so anyone could have that as well.

• If anyone just happens to be playing a dwarf, half-orc, tiefling or aasimar, they aren't even slowed down by darkness.
• If anyone has access to darkvision (whether as a spell or as a potion), then they merely need to spend a turn responding to darkness and then they're fine.
• If even one person in the entire party brought an oil of daylight, then the entire party gets to fight in bright light, end of story.


These are trained field agents of an organization whose daily operations include exploring and dungeon-delving. Expecting that after having completed six missions (the minimum before being eligible for this one), such an agent would be carrying a few solutions to common hazards... well, I wouldn't really call that "power-gaming". I'd call that "roleplaying a campaign-appropriate concept".

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I've read this post a few times and I apologize if I'm taking it the wrong way, but it's comes across to me as: "If you're playing a 3rd or 4th level character and aren't prepared for this hazard, you're an idiot." (Or at least, you're a poor player.) I think that's a bad stance and here's why.

Races:
Jiggy wrote:
One-third of playable races in PFS are completely uninhibited by darkness.

If your point is that one-third of any given party is playing a race with darkvision, I think you're making a false correlation between the numbers and reality. I've played and judged 160+ PFS scenarios and the number of PCs with darkvision has been far less than 33%. And if it weren't for the power creep of the aasimar, I'd have seen even fewer. (Aasimar seem to be everywhere these days.)

If your point is that people should be playing more races with darkvision...well, people are going to play what they like to play. If that's a race without darkvision, it's their choice and shouldn't be penalized for it. (Though they need to understand their limitations and prepare for it.)

Your mileage may vary, but that's what I've seen.

Spell:
Jiggy wrote:
Darkvision is a 2nd-level spell, thus not beyond reason to have access to at 3rd-4th level. It's also a mere 300gp as a potion, and anyone with at least 5 Fame (at 3rd level and up, that's everyone) can purchase it as such.

It's not beyond reason to have the spell, but how many 3rd or 4th characters are going to tie up a 2nd level slot -- their highest spell slot -- for something that might come up?

PCs can buy a potion of darkvision, but that's roughly 10% of a 3rd level PC's gold. And you're talking about an item that is a contingency item; most of the time, an ioun torch is just fine for dark conditions.

By 3rd or 4th level, most PCs are going to be looking at purchasing a wand of cure light wounds, masterwork weapon(s), masterwork armor, potions of cure light wounds. Magic armor, magic weapons, and a cloak of resistance are in the realm of possibility, too. All that stuff can be used all the time -- not just some of the time -- and at 3rd or 4th level will quickly beggar a character.

What about other contingency items? Have a run in with harpies (Silken Caravan)? Well, you might think you need a potion of fly and/or some form of protection from evil. How about an allip (Black Waters)? Getting a magic weapon (or the ability to make your weapon magic) is high on your list, unless you want to be useless against incorporeal creatures.

My point is this: There are only so many PPs and so much gold to spend at low levels and a lot of things that happen occasionally, that it's hard to be prepared for all of them.

Oil:
Jiggy wrote:
An oil of daylight costs 750gp or 2PP, so anyone could have that as well.

See above.

Responding to the hazard:
Jiggy wrote:
If anyone has access to darkvision (whether as a spell or as a potion), then they merely need to spend a turn responding to darkness and then they're fine.

In general, you're right. If a PC has access to a potion of darkvision, they'll be a round behind, but overall, OK.

For Day of the Demon, the quarters are tight and drinking a potion provokes an attack of opportunity, as does retrieving it unless you have a handy haversack. In this case, it's from a creature that threatens at 5 and 10 ft., has combat reflexes, and has sneak attack. It's not unreasonable for a PC to get smacked twice trying to pull and drink a potion. That's a lot of hurt. (Average 36 points, including sneak, with two hits from the spear.) (And heaven forbid, you're trying to do this at high tier, with multiple babaus threatening you.)

Jiggy wrote:
These are trained field agents of an organization whose daily operations include exploring and dungeon-delving. Expecting that after having completed six missions (the minimum before being eligible for this one), such an agent would be carrying a few solutions to common hazards... well, I wouldn't really call that "power-gaming". I'd call that "roleplaying a campaign-appropriate concept".

Trained field agents:
It's all well and good in theory to say folks are trained field agents, but the reality is a bit different. These are players who are coming out to play a game, many of whom are only casual players and only play PF RPG rules in PFS settings. And it's the player who decides on what to buy for their character.

I cannot stress enough that until you run into the bad side of darkness, you don't know how bad -- and deadly -- it can be. By then, it may be too late for your character. In Day of the Demon, given the terrain and the fact that the babau can cast darkness at will, you have a recipe for disaster for an inexperienced or unprepared group.

One last thing about PFS play:
You can't count on your party members. Well, to be more clear: You can't count on showing up to a PFS event and having X at your table, whether X is a cleric, a fighter, a rogue, a wizard -- whatever. (Unless, of course, you game with a regular group.) Because of that, you need to have a bit of a lone wolf approach to preparing for contingencies. No one else may have daylight, darkvision, the ability to fly -- whatever -- so you need to be able to take care of yourself. This is both costly (PP or gold) and takes some intiative on the player's part to understand and plan for these contingencies.

You are going to see widely varying degrees of preparedness of the players. (Do you know what it's like to face two encounters in a mod against incorporeal creatures at Tier 7-8 with a 4-person party and with a fighter without a magic weapon? I do. It ain't pretty.) When PCs can't contribute, the fight becomes that much harder for those that can.

As for the mod, I do not necessarily think that either the creature or the hazard in question is inappropriate or overpowering. I don't have a problem with the mod, though I think at low tier you're going to see a lot of PC deaths. I do think that trivializing the danger because there are half a dozen ways around is a stretch.

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Jeffrey Stop wrote:
I've read this post a few times and I apologize if I'm taking it the wrong way, but it's comes across to me as: "If you're playing a 3rd or 4th level character and aren't prepared for this hazard, you're an idiot." (Or at least, you're a poor player.)

Good thing that's not even remotely close to what I said, then.

I didn't say "If you're not prepared, you're an idiot/poor player."

I said "If you ARE prepared, that doesn't make you some kind of dirty power-gamer."

"Doing X does not make me bad" is waaaaaay different than "NOT doing X makes YOU bad."

So apparently it's okay for someone to openly criticize people who play the "prepared field agent" concept, but to defend oneself or others with "We're not having badwrongfun" constitutes calling other people idiots or poor players.


Jiggy wrote:
Good thing that's not even remotely close to what I said, then.

Ah, well, then again I apologize. It's not the first time I've been wrong and, sadly, it won't be the last.

Jiggy wrote:
So apparently it's okay for someone to openly criticize people who play the "prepared field agent" concept, but to defend oneself or others with "We're not having badwrongfun" constitutes calling other people idiots or poor players.

That wasn't my intent, but given that I misconstrued your post it's a fair criticism of my post.

Dark Archive

Does this become legal for non 4-star GMs on Jan 26th and legal for regular play?


Mazlith wrote:
Does this become legal for non 4-star GMs on Jan 26th and legal for regular play?

Usually the old EX becomes a regular scenario when the new EX comes out. I don't remember how accurate previous dates have been, but assuming that date is accurate then it should, yes.

Dark Archive

GAR! Release date moved to Feb 26th? I was planning to run this in early February.

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Just got my run of it in today, looking forward to maybe a second table before it becomes a regular scenario. All my experience has been at 3-4 subtier, and while the story is pretty awesome, the overall mission is perhaps a bit lackluster. Need to practice this one a bit more I think.

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