Does the ROTRL Pawn collection assume that we have the NPC Codex pawn collection? I notice a lot of NPCs missing.
The only thing it assumes you have is the Bestiary Box.
No Erylium? Are you just not making pawns for tiny mobs, or is there another way to get her? She is a very unique character from very early in the AP and I don't have a good way from the first 3 pawn sets to represent her yet. Also no Hermit Crab or Tangletooth. I guess the Tentamort and Bunyip will be in the Bestiary 2 Box of pawns when that comes out. It just seems looking through the PDF that I just got there are a few semi-minor unique monsters missing. It defeats the reason I'm buying this set is I still have to get a paper minis set to fill the gaps.
That being said this set should arrive in time for week 3 of our RotRL AE campaign and I can't wait to add them to the rest of my pawns.
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"Note: This product does not include bases. It is intended for use with the bases found in the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary Box."
I believe I saw it asked before but is there any update on if the bases will ever be sold separately? I have minis for all the Bestiary 1 monsters but I'll be buying the other pawn boxes. I'd rather not have to buy a BB just for the bases. Thanks!
I'd rather not have to buy a BB just for the bases. Thanks!
I got lucky. A local guy bought the basic box, and did nto liek the pawns. He gave away his pawns to another guy. When he found out I was buying the pawns and liked them, he gave me the bases from his box. So I have two set of the basic box bases plus the bases that came with my beast box.
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No Erylium? Are you just not making pawns for tiny mobs, or is there another way to get her? She is a very unique character from very early in the AP and I don't have a good way from the first 3 pawn sets to represent her yet. Also no Hermit Crab or Tangletooth. I guess the Tentamort and Bunyip will be in the Bestiary 2 Box of pawns when that comes out. It just seems looking through the PDF that I just got there are a few semi-minor unique monsters missing. It defeats the reason I'm buying this set is I still have to get a paper minis set to fill the gaps.
For now, at least, we're not doing pawns for sizes other than Small, Medium, Large, and Huge.
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Does the ROTRL Pawn collection assume that we have the NPC Codex pawn collection? I notice a lot of NPCs missing.
To keep the price point where it is, we still have to do some picking and choosing, and lesser NPC—especially if they're so minor that they don't have an illustration—are going to be among the first to go. Having the NPC Codex box will certainly help if you want to try to find somebody to fill in for folks like that, but you won't find the specific RotR NPCs that are missing in there.
Got mine today, which is amazing because it wasn't supposed to ship until Friday! The quality continues to amaze. I especially like the variety in images for monsters that have duplicates.
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Got mine today, which is amazing because it wasn't supposed to ship until Friday! The quality continues to amaze. I especially like the variety in images for monsters that have duplicates.
Oh god I need your help! What image was used for the Storm Giant in this set, because if it's the male Leonidus looking mfer from the Beastiary I will buy this set even thought I already own the majority of the RotRL mini and x2 Beastiary boxes. If it's purple haired mc'dumblookingchain shirt though... No thank you sir!
Oh god I need your help! What image was used for the Storm Giant in this set, because if it's the male Leonidus looking mfer from the Beastiary I will buy this set even thought I already own the majority of the RotRL mini and x2 Beastiary boxes. If it's purple haired mc'dumblookingchain shirt though... No thank you sir!
I'll have to disappoint then because the set uses the purple-haired female as the art for the Storm Giants.
Are you an international customer? Once the weight reaches a certain limit there's no option for us international customers other than priority. Although the Bestiary Box was over this limit the RotRL set isnt - I'm pretty sure you'll be able to have this one delivered via standard mail.
(When the weight/size of an item requires priority shipping, you can often add other items to such an order with negligible extra shipping costs though, which is one way to mitigate those uncomfortable months. For example: it costs me $51.35 to ship just the Bestiary Box, however I can add 9 instalments worth of APs without the shipping cost changing (in fact, it gets cheaper by $10 due to Paizo's shipping discount). It's still a little annoying, but if you do have a few things you're looking to get - this can be a good way to minimise the impact.).
Ah, sorry. I can't help then.
Why is shipping on the subscription for the pawns only priority mail? The shipping cost is just as much as the pawns then.
My other subscriptions aren't priority.
I Am Not Paizo Customer Service, but:
Your other subscriptions are books, which means they qualify to ship third class for Media Mail or Bound Printed Matter. The gaming accessories don't count as books so they can't be shipped Media Mail and are thus more expensive.
There is actually a certain percentage of a package that has to be books to qualify for Media Mail, so in some instances, non-book-material could ship with your other subscription items and still qualify for the cheaper rate. However, from what I understand, the pawns are rather heavy due to the cardstock material and might force your whole subscription out of Media Mail in months where there isn't an RPG hardcover.
That said, however, it's likely to be less expensive to hold your pawns to ship with your subscription, as shipping one slightly heavier package by Priority Mail is probably still cheaper than shipping two packages, one Priority and one Standard.
Long story short: Ask Customer Service, but I'm pretty sure it has to do with the pawns not qualifying as books for the USPS.
I received these on Wednesday, and they're gorgeous, *except* that the art overflows the pawns themselves. The Skinsaw Man is a great example -- punch him out, and his razor gets cut off, so he's threatening the party with a razor handle. Somehow not quite as dangerous-looking.
I'd rather see the images scaled down 5% so they fit on the pawns proper, and don't overflow into the 'discard' area.
Speaking of size, is there a reason the pawns are coming out at 40 mm, when most minis are at either 28 or 30 mm? I love the extra detail we get with the bigger pawns; it's just kind of odd having a goblin pawn dwarf my 6' drow mini...
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Oh god I need your help! What image was used for the Storm Giant in this set, because if it's the male Leonidus looking mfer from the Beastiary I will buy this set even thought I already own the majority of the RotRL mini and x2 Beastiary boxes. If it's purple haired mc'dumblookingchain shirt though... No thank you sir!I'll have to disappoint then because the set uses the purple-haired female as the art for the Storm Giants.
Paizo WHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!
Well... *sniff* I guess that is it then, it'll be dumb looking storm giants in my campaigns for evermore ='[.
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Media Mail to Parcel post to Priority Mail....
Seems they like to exclude Parcel Post....to the person asking about shipping costs.
It very well could be as simple as the cost of adding a box to ship items it gets up there with Priority Mail from Parcel Post and that is why it's never an option.
It the main reason I quit subscribing for awhile....but the ease of subscribing and getting what you want with out "searching" has out weighed the cost for now.
Was very surprised and happy to have this delivered the day before it was listed to ship. It will be in action for week 3 of my RotRL AE campaign. Will post review after they see action.
Received mine on Sat Afternoon. Wonderful service Paizo.
Thank You
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Got this in the main and I absolutely love it. This is an amazing option instead of buying miniatures.
That being said, I wish you guys would have added more important characters in place of less important ones that CAN be substituted for generic ones in the Bestiary Box (eg: Elyrium in exchange for a goblin). I do understand that shipping can get more expensive, but it would be nice if some of my final battles did have the matching pawns (Rune Giants) for those battles, instead of generic ogres.
Overall, a great product. Just wish there were better choices on which miniatures were represented, as now I have to find a way to represent the enemies without spending a boatload on Pathfinder Battles singles.
Right, so this is out early. How come it's still listed as not yet released on Amazon? And better yet, how come it still seems to be only 2/3 of the price over there? o_O
Amazon are always late and usually cheaper when it comes to paizo products. I'm pretty sure the lateness is an amazon issue (or their distributor). The price is how amazon functions - huge volume, large discounts. Painless operate on a different model.
Right, so this is out early. How come it's still listed as not yet released on Amazon?
Unsure—I've let the sales team know about this so they can look into it.
The official Street Date is 9/26. It is now 10/1. Several factors ranging from distributor order date to shipping time (including reshipping in some cases) usually means Amazon will have the product approximately 3 weeks after the official on sale date. Also, no distributor is allowed to ship to Amazon. Amazon is notified when the product is available and they determine when they will pick up said product. The book channel always involves shipping to more than one warehouse and then breakup and shipping to stores...so it will always be available later that buying direct or from hobby stores.
The official Street Date is 9/26. It is now 10/1. Several factors ranging from distributor order date to shipping time (including reshipping in some cases) usually means Amazon will have the product approximately 3 weeks after the official on sale date. Also, no distributor is allowed to ship to Amazon. Amazon is notified when the product is available and they determine when they will pick up said product. The book channel always involves shipping to more than one warehouse and then breakup and shipping to stores...so it will always be available later that buying direct or from hobby stores.
Oo, I didn't know that. Another interesting snippet of information.
Got mine yesterday. They really are beautiful and I am really looking forward to starting the campaign next week. But I have to agree with some others, the art overlapping into the discarded area is a bit disappointing on some pawns.
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The official Street Date is 9/26. It is now 10/1. Several factors ranging from distributor order date to shipping time (including reshipping in some cases) usually means Amazon will have the product approximately 3 weeks after the official on sale date. Also, no distributor is allowed to ship to Amazon. Amazon is notified when the product is available and they determine when they will pick up said product. The book channel always involves shipping to more than one warehouse and then breakup and shipping to stores...so it will always be available later that buying direct or from hobby stores.Oo, I didn't know that. Another interesting snippet of information.
Just to be clear, here, that's not our policy; that's Amazon's. A better wording would be:
Amazon doesn't allow distributors to ship to them.
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But I have to agree with some others, the art overlapping into the discarded area is a bit disappointing on some pawns.
I'm not clear on why that's disappointing. Can you clue me in?
If that bleed *wasn't* there, and the die wasn't lined up perfectly with the sheet, the illustration would be cut off on at least one side, and there would be a white line between the cut-off art and the edge of the pawn, which would look horrible.
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It's not a color bleed, nor cutting off things like cloaks or hair; it's significant pieces of the art. Justice Ironbriar is the best example; his entire razor is cut off, so he's menacing the characters with a hilt. Gogmurt's sword is similarly shortened to a tiny bit-o-dagger, and the redcap's scythes look like staffs.
As I said, I wouldn't mind seeing the art scaled down a notch, because in my mind open white space is better than gargantuan goblins whose weapons are getting cut off.
Just my $0.02.
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It's not a color bleed, nor cutting off things like cloaks or hair; it's significant pieces of the art. Justice Ironbriar is the best example; his entire razor is cut off, so he's menacing the characters with a hilt. Gogmurt's sword is similarly shortened to a tiny bit-o-dagger, and the redcap's scythes look like staffs.
As I said, I wouldn't mind seeing the art scaled down a notch, because in my mind open white space is better than gargantuan goblins whose weapons are getting cut off.
Just my $0.02.
To fit Ironbriar's weapon onto the pawn, we'd have to scale him down pretty significantly, which would make him look more like a halfling than a human, and the redcaps would be pretty hard to read.
I just received mine , but unfortunately I got a double set of one sheet which means I'm missing several key characters, such as Shalelu, Tsuto, and The Skinsaw Man.
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I also have my box, and started a new sub for pawns because I just like them that much lol. I do have a question though that I'm sure is already answered but I can't really find it.
What do I need to get to fill in the missing monsters that are excluded from the pawn set. Without buying the more expensive mini's because that's why I buy pawns to save money. I noticed some monsters are missing in the set and just would like to know which ones I need to fill in with paper pawns to be set.
Thank you heartily for the product and support.
Ellestil
I found a minor error. Two of the Ogrekin have a purple background for their numbers. One of those should be orange.
Just gave mine away to a friend. He really wanted them and I figured I could get another set later. I understand he went over and bought the beatiary set the same day. Another addict hooked, er I mean another happy fan. ;-)
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I have the Bestiary box set and this one. I must say I love them both. I am using them to fill in for creatures I do not have in miniature form. I have all the Heroes and Monsters set and the Rise of the Runelords Miniatures and now with the Bestiary box set and this set of pawns I have amassed a sizable collection.
With my metal figures to fill in some of the others ones.. I am set for a LONG time. Well at least until the Shattered star sets come out for the Pawns and the Miniatures :)
I have the Bestiary box set and this one. I must say I love them both. I am using them to fill in for creatures I do not have in miniature form. I have all the Heroes and Monsters set and the Rise of the Runelords Miniatures and now with the Bestiary box set and this set of pawns I have amassed a sizable collection.
With my metal figures to fill in some of the others ones.. I am set for a LONG time. Well at least until the Shattered star sets come out for the Pawns and the Miniatures :)
Mmmmm....disposable income.....<sigh>
Jealous....that is all......
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I have the Bestiary box set and this one. I must say I love them both. I am using them to fill in for creatures I do not have in miniature form. I have all the Heroes and Monsters set and the Rise of the Runelords Miniatures and now with the Bestiary box set and this set of pawns I have amassed a sizable collection.
With my metal figures to fill in some of the others ones.. I am set for a LONG time. Well at least until the Shattered star sets come out for the Pawns and the Miniatures :)
Mmmmm....disposable income.....<sigh>
Jealous....that is all......
I am actually forced by my wife to buy these things.. She wants them for my game so I can make it as cool as the first time I ran for us and our home group hehe.
I am actually forced by my wife to buy these things.. She wants them for my game so I can make it as cool as the first time I ran for us and our home group hehe.
LOL! My wife would never go for that...it would be "What? More stuff?"...
Obviously she's not a gamer...but I still love her! (21 years...must be love!)
Got my set today at the local gaming shop and man is it AWESOME! While I'm not currently running the ROTRLAP. there are a ton of pawns that will be useful to my campaign. Thanks again, Paizo!
Maybe not the right place to post but, Koruvus the goblin is spelled as 'Korvus' on the mini. Not a huge deal, but maybe if you reprint these ever you can correct...
We've moved on to Hook Mountain Massacre, and I must admit at this point I'm a bit frustrated.
I bought:
(1) The complete WizKids mini set
(2) The Bestiary Box pawn set
(3) The Rise of the Runelords pawn set
So I figured I was all set for minis.
Yet in one session I encountered three minis that aren't covered in ANY of the sets:
- Kibb (or any other firepelt cougar)
- A tentriculos
- An ogre spider
I really love the WizKids minis, but I understand that at their price point they can't exactly produce "one of everything you might ever encounter", but I would hope that the pawns could strive for completeness outside stuff covered in the Bestiary Box(es).
Thanks for listening!
That's really strange, I'd have thought that the PF Paper Mini sets cover all and everything needed mini-wise in each AP installment, unless, the Tendriculos was an edition for the Anniversary Edition of RotRL.
Maybe you could head over to the PF Paper Minis Product subforum and drop Callous Jack a line - he's real quick with updates.
Either that, or you buy the PF Paper Minis for KM #2, there you'll find the Tendriculos, and could use the cat (puma) for the firepelt cougar.
But I guess, that's too late now anyways.
Ruyan.
It's non the paper minis -- those are always complete.
I expected the pawns to be similarly complete (with less repetition).
I'm expressing disappointment that the pawns, even supplemented by the Bestiary Box as required, weren't complete.
I have the paper minis; I just prefer pawns or 'real' plastic or metal minis.
