paizo.com Recent Posts in Pathfinder Battles—Rise of the Runelords: Rune Giant Discussionpaizo.com Recent Posts in Pathfinder Battles—Rise of the Runelords: Rune Giant Discussion2023-06-09T17:34:06Z2023-06-09T17:34:06ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Battles—Rise of the Runelords: Rune Giantdanielchttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8rqo/discuss&page=2?Pathfinder-Battles-Rise-of-the-Runelords-Rune-Giant#982013-02-06T16:54:03Z2013-02-06T16:54:03Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Skeld wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Jason Grubiak wrote:</div><blockquote> How can anyone with a straight face say it doesnt look like naked thighs? </blockquote>I can. It never crossed my mind until weeks after I got mine and saw all the ZOMG!! in this thread.</blockquote><p>Same here. It didn't even cross my mind until I read the comments here on the forum. But once they put the idea out there, I could see it.Skeld wrote:Jason Grubiak wrote: How can anyone with a straight face say it doesnt look like naked thighs?
I can. It never crossed my mind until weeks after I got mine and saw all the ZOMG!! in this thread.Same here. It didn't even cross my mind until I read the comments here on the forum. But once they put the idea out there, I could see it.danielc2013-02-06T16:54:03ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Battles—Rise of the Runelords: Rune GiantSkeldhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8rqo/discuss&page=2?Pathfinder-Battles-Rise-of-the-Runelords-Rune-Giant#972013-02-06T16:52:29Z2013-02-06T16:37:04Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Jason Grubiak wrote:</div><blockquote> How can anyone with a straight face say it doesnt look like naked thighs? </blockquote><p>I can. It never crossed my mind until weeks after I got mine and saw all the ZOMG!! in this thread.
<p>-Skeld</p>Jason Grubiak wrote:How can anyone with a straight face say it doesnt look like naked thighs?
I can. It never crossed my mind until weeks after I got mine and saw all the ZOMG!! in this thread. -SkeldSkeld2013-02-06T16:37:04ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Battles—Rise of the Runelords: Rune GiantJason Grubiakhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8rqo/discuss&page=2?Pathfinder-Battles-Rise-of-the-Runelords-Rune-Giant#962013-08-05T01:00:50Z2013-02-06T16:01:19Z<p>Now that the giant is available without ordering a whole case I finally got mine. </p>
<p>I read all these posts about how the paint job tricks the eye into making it look like he might have no pants.
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Well...it can't be that bad can it? There seems to be just as many people saying it looks fine. So lets see for myself.</p>
<p>I open the box and pull the mini out.....
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What the? Are you kidding me? How can anyone with a straight face say it doesnt look like naked thighs? Yes he has grey skin...but it still totally looks like flesh tone legs. When you look at the bottom of the mini to read the figure's name it just looks like naked flesh under that kilt.
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If the pants were slightly baggy, anything to make it look like pants. But no its like skin tight spandex pants.</p>
<p>I really wish it werent true. I was hoping I would be more mature and not see what people are seeing. But its unavoidable. </p>
<p>Chance of my players making no-pants comments and making fun of this mini when I place it on the table: Im gonna say 90%.
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And for the record...Average age of my players: 35.</p>
<p>I'll show it to them and report back to you all. Hopefully its just me, but I cant imagine so.</p>Now that the giant is available without ordering a whole case I finally got mine.
I read all these posts about how the paint job tricks the eye into making it look like he might have no pants.
Well...it can't be that bad can it? There seems to be just as many people saying it looks fine. So lets see for myself.
I open the box and pull the mini out.....
What the? Are you kidding me? How can anyone with a straight face say it doesnt look like naked thighs? Yes he has grey skin...but it still...Jason Grubiak2013-02-06T16:01:19ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Battles—Rise of the Runelords: Rune GiantBerikhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8rqo/discuss&page=2?Pathfinder-Battles-Rise-of-the-Runelords-Rune-Giant#952013-02-05T20:40:13Z2013-02-05T20:40:13Z<p>Just ordered this and looking forward to seeing it in person. A good choice for my 100th (!!) order with you guys I think. :D</p>Just ordered this and looking forward to seeing it in person. A good choice for my 100th (!!) order with you guys I think. :DBerik2013-02-05T20:40:13ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Battles—Rise of the Runelords: Rune Giantsowhereaminowhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8rqo/discuss&page=2?Pathfinder-Battles-Rise-of-the-Runelords-Rune-Giant#942013-02-04T21:38:27Z2013-02-04T21:38:27Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Stephen Radney-MacFarland wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Speaking as the guy who did the paintmaster for this mini, I'm sorry if you think that his pants look too "flesh tone." For the most part I was trying to match wherever possible Wayne Reynolds's fantastic source material. The original pants featured that base color with a diamond pattern in redish brown. I knew we would not have the deco-ops to recreate the pattern, so I went with the simplified base instead. I also thought the lighter tones would work well with his dark ash skin and would make the red of his hair pop a little more. </p>
<p>Just a bit of explanation why I made the choices I did. Carry on. </blockquote><p>Got mine recently - it looks great! Kudos to you and the design team. Can't wait to scare the bejeezus out my players when this bad boy hits the table next session.Stephen Radney-MacFarland wrote:Speaking as the guy who did the paintmaster for this mini, I'm sorry if you think that his pants look too "flesh tone." For the most part I was trying to match wherever possible Wayne Reynolds's fantastic source material. The original pants featured that base color with a diamond pattern in redish brown. I knew we would not have the deco-ops to recreate the pattern, so I went with the simplified base instead. I also thought the lighter tones would work well...sowhereaminow2013-02-04T21:38:27ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Battles—Rise of the Runelords: Rune GiantVic Wertz (Chief Technical Officer)https://paizo.com/products/btpy8rqo/discuss&page=2?Pathfinder-Battles-Rise-of-the-Runelords-Rune-Giant#932013-02-04T21:16:59Z2013-02-04T21:16:59Z<p>I've removed some posts. This line of conversation has diminishing merit, and personal attacks on the issue are •thoroughly• pointless. Move along.</p>I've removed some posts. This line of conversation has diminishing merit, and personal attacks on the issue are *thoroughly* pointless. Move along.Vic Wertz (Chief Technical Officer)2013-02-04T21:16:59ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Battles—Rise of the Runelords: Rune GiantTriOmegaZerohttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8rqo/discuss&page=2?Pathfinder-Battles-Rise-of-the-Runelords-Rune-Giant#922013-02-03T19:15:59Z2013-02-03T19:15:59Z<p>Nothing at all, I just like a little leg room in mine.</p>Nothing at all, I just like a little leg room in mine.TriOmegaZero2013-02-03T19:15:59ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Battles—Rise of the Runelords: Rune GiantSkeldhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8rqo/discuss&page=2?Pathfinder-Battles-Rise-of-the-Runelords-Rune-Giant#912013-02-03T19:13:28Z2013-02-03T19:13:28Z<p>What's wrong with wearing tight, khaki pants anyway?</p>
<p>-Skeld</p>What's wrong with wearing tight, khaki pants anyway?
-SkeldSkeld2013-02-03T19:13:28ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Battles—Rise of the Runelords: Rune GiantAnguishhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8rqo/discuss&page=2?Pathfinder-Battles-Rise-of-the-Runelords-Rune-Giant#872013-02-03T14:31:53Z2013-02-03T14:31:53Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">TriOmegaZero wrote:</div><blockquote> Then stop arguing with me about it. </blockquote><p>While you - and everyone else - are entitle to have ownership of their opinions and it's a nice freedom that you're <i>permitted</i> to express them, why do you object to people trying to convince you that one of yours is... without basis?
<p>This is a gorgeous mini (though really at this size the word mini shouldn't really apply) and while I'm a generally pervy kind of guy, I fail to find anything untoward about its paint job. The suggestion that a blue/grey-skinned creature wearing tan pants looks nude is <i>trying</i> to find something objectionable where there clearly isn't any such.</p>
<p>To view colour tones that are sometimes fleshy as even possibly being flesh when on out-of-place seems... very odd to me and I think that the assertion that this mini in <i>any</i> way appears nude or inappropriately-dressed does the model and Paizo great disservice.</p>
<p>This giant is nude in exactly the same sense that a tan automobile is clearly made of Caucasian flesh. To ignore that cars are not made of skin is equivalent to ignoring that blue/grey giants are not made of tan flesh.</p>
<p>It would be a shame should even one of these giants not get purchased because someone was afraid that it might evoke unchaste thoughts. It is worse that Paizo may feel they need to avoid colours that - ever - appear to be human skin tones around the nether regions of their artwork because <i>someone</i> might ignore the entire rest of the picture, focus purely on the "junk" and object. I for one don't want to see every mini having to wear bright green undies to prevent this kind of argument.</p>TriOmegaZero wrote:Then stop arguing with me about it.
While you - and everyone else - are entitle to have ownership of their opinions and it's a nice freedom that you're permitted to express them, why do you object to people trying to convince you that one of yours is... without basis? This is a gorgeous mini (though really at this size the word mini shouldn't really apply) and while I'm a generally pervy kind of guy, I fail to find anything untoward about its paint job. The suggestion that...Anguish2013-02-03T14:31:53ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Battles—Rise of the Runelords: Rune GiantRyan. Costellohttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8rqo/discuss&page=2?Pathfinder-Battles-Rise-of-the-Runelords-Rune-Giant#862013-02-03T13:39:07Z2013-02-03T13:39:07Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Stephen Radney-MacFarland wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Speaking as the guy who did the paintmaster for this mini, I'm sorry if you think that his pants look too "flesh tone." For the most part I was trying to match wherever possible Wayne Reynolds's fantastic source material. The original pants featured that base color with a diamond pattern in redish brown. I knew we would not have the deco-ops to recreate the pattern, so I went with the simplified base instead. I also thought the lighter tones would work well with his dark ash skin and would make the red of his hair pop a little more. </p>
<p>Just a bit of explanation why I made the choices I did. Carry on. </blockquote><p>No need to apologize, Stephen; for every post in this thread that says "pants the colour of Caucasian flesh was a strange choice" there is a post that says "you're an immature perv."
<p>Since I opened this can of worms by saying I love everything but the colour of the pants, I'll just elaborate without conjecture that, even though I cognitively understand he is wearing pants, the colour of the pants fools my perception into reading it as bare legs. Where you thought the lighter colour would make the red hair pop, it is that light colour that pops to me. It is so much brighter than anything else on the miniature, and on a large, smooth surface. </p>
<p>Again, I love everything about this miniature but the colour of the pants for the reasons stated. I'm sorry my logic is infantile. No offense was intended to Scotts, Rune Giants, or people who find no room for jokes about either in their miniatures.</p>Stephen Radney-MacFarland wrote:Speaking as the guy who did the paintmaster for this mini, I'm sorry if you think that his pants look too "flesh tone." For the most part I was trying to match wherever possible Wayne Reynolds's fantastic source material. The original pants featured that base color with a diamond pattern in redish brown. I knew we would not have the deco-ops to recreate the pattern, so I went with the simplified base instead. I also thought the lighter tones would work well...Ryan. Costello2013-02-03T13:39:07ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Battles—Rise of the Runelords: Rune GiantTriOmegaZerohttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8rqo/discuss&page=2?Pathfinder-Battles-Rise-of-the-Runelords-Rune-Giant#832013-02-03T07:17:14Z2013-02-03T07:17:14Z<p>And when you pick him up and your hand obscures the upper half, you don't see how the image can spring to mind?</p>
<p>We KNOW he's not naked. You can stop harping on that. When you see a guy running around in a flesh-toned body suit your mind still registers it regardless of what it knows.</p>And when you pick him up and your hand obscures the upper half, you don't see how the image can spring to mind?
We KNOW he's not naked. You can stop harping on that. When you see a guy running around in a flesh-toned body suit your mind still registers it regardless of what it knows.TriOmegaZero2013-02-03T07:17:14ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Battles—Rise of the Runelords: Rune GiantDeanothhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8rqo/discuss&page=2?Pathfinder-Battles-Rise-of-the-Runelords-Rune-Giant#822013-02-03T07:10:49Z2013-02-03T07:10:49Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">TriOmegaZero wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Thanks Stephen. </p>
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Cat-thulhu wrote:</div><blockquote> I dn't see how he can appear naked form the waist down. </blockquote>Look at him from ONLY the waist down. </blockquote><p>That would be like saying look at him from only the waist up then. Just because he has human flesh tone pants does not mean he looks naked in my book at all. I look at it like this. He HAS dark skin. So if someone mistakes or <i>thinks</i> it is actually naked underneath then explain that is it made from human flesh.
<p>The figure needs to be looked at as a whole.. not partially.</p>TriOmegaZero wrote:Thanks Stephen.
Cat-thulhu wrote: I dn't see how he can appear naked form the waist down.
Look at him from ONLY the waist down. That would be like saying look at him from only the waist up then. Just because he has human flesh tone pants does not mean he looks naked in my book at all. I look at it like this. He HAS dark skin. So if someone mistakes or thinks it is actually naked underneath then explain that is it made from human flesh. The figure needs to be looked at as...Deanoth2013-02-03T07:10:49ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Battles—Rise of the Runelords: Rune GiantTriOmegaZerohttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8rqo/discuss&page=2?Pathfinder-Battles-Rise-of-the-Runelords-Rune-Giant#812013-02-02T00:26:38Z2013-02-02T00:11:56Z<p>Just not for dirty old men. :)</p>Just not for dirty old men. :)TriOmegaZero2013-02-02T00:11:56ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Battles—Rise of the Runelords: Rune GiantStephen Radney-MacFarland (Senior Designer)https://paizo.com/products/btpy8rqo/discuss&page=2?Pathfinder-Battles-Rise-of-the-Runelords-Rune-Giant#802013-08-05T00:56:57Z2013-02-01T23:28:02Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Demonic Warlord wrote:</div><blockquote> so is this for kids to play or no? </blockquote><p>It has pants! I swear. It's fine for kids!Demonic Warlord wrote:so is this for kids to play or no?
It has pants! I swear. It's fine for kids!Stephen Radney-MacFarland (Senior Designer)2013-02-01T23:28:02ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Battles—Rise of the Runelords: Rune GiantDemonic Warlordhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8rqo/discuss&page=2?Pathfinder-Battles-Rise-of-the-Runelords-Rune-Giant#792013-02-01T23:20:49Z2013-02-01T23:20:49Z<p>so is this for kids to play or no?</p>so is this for kids to play or no?Demonic Warlord2013-02-01T23:20:49ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Battles—Rise of the Runelords: Rune GiantStephen Radney-MacFarland (Senior Designer)https://paizo.com/products/btpy8rqo/discuss&page=2?Pathfinder-Battles-Rise-of-the-Runelords-Rune-Giant#782013-02-01T22:35:19Z2013-02-01T22:35:19Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Christopher Dudley wrote:</div><blockquote><br />
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Did you get one back from China or wherever they're painted? I'm reasonably sure the color they used is not the same color that you painted. It's not the same color as the source painting, which I'm looking at now. It's also not the same color that's depicted in the product photograph. Both of those are a sort of dingy linen color. The figure is not. </blockquote><p>I do have one from China, it sits at my desk next to m computer. And yes, there are some slight color shifts from my original, there always are. I've done paintmasters for D&D miniatures, Star Wars Miniatures, and Pathfinder Battle Miniatures. Sometimes minis come back almost exactly as I painted them (often much to my surprise, in the case of the Rage Drake from the D&D Minis Desert of Desolation set) sometimes not so much. The Pathfinder Battle miniatures I've done have come back pretty darn close, and while there is some shift on the pants, it's not dramatic.Christopher Dudley wrote:Did you get one back from China or wherever they're painted? I'm reasonably sure the color they used is not the same color that you painted. It's not the same color as the source painting, which I'm looking at now. It's also not the same color that's depicted in the product photograph. Both of those are a sort of dingy linen color. The figure is not.
I do have one from China, it sits at my desk next to m computer. And yes, there are some slight color shifts from my...Stephen Radney-MacFarland (Senior Designer)2013-02-01T22:35:19ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Battles—Rise of the Runelords: Rune GiantChristopher Dudley (RPG Superstar 2013 Top 32)https://paizo.com/products/btpy8rqo/discuss&page=2?Pathfinder-Battles-Rise-of-the-Runelords-Rune-Giant#772013-02-01T22:07:21Z2013-02-01T22:07:21Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Stephen Radney-MacFarland wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Speaking as the guy who did the paintmaster for this mini, I'm sorry if you think that his pants look too "flesh tone." For the most part I was trying to match wherever possible Wayne Reynolds's fantastic source material. The original pants featured that base color with a diamond pattern in redish brown. I knew we would not have the deco-ops to recreate the pattern, so I went with the simplified base instead. I also thought the lighter tones would work well with his dark ash skin and would make the red of his hair pop a little more.
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</blockquote><p>Did you get one back from China or wherever they're painted? I'm reasonably sure the color they used is not the same color that you painted. It's not the same color as the source painting, which I'm looking at now. It's also not the same color that's depicted in the product photograph. Both of those are a sort of dingy linen color. The figure is not.Stephen Radney-MacFarland wrote:Speaking as the guy who did the paintmaster for this mini, I'm sorry if you think that his pants look too "flesh tone." For the most part I was trying to match wherever possible Wayne Reynolds's fantastic source material. The original pants featured that base color with a diamond pattern in redish brown. I knew we would not have the deco-ops to recreate the pattern, so I went with the simplified base instead. I also thought the lighter tones would work well...Christopher Dudley (RPG Superstar 2013 Top 32)2013-02-01T22:07:21ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Battles—Rise of the Runelords: Rune GiantTOZ (alias of TriOmegaZero)https://paizo.com/products/btpy8rqo/discuss&page=2?Pathfinder-Battles-Rise-of-the-Runelords-Rune-Giant#762013-02-01T21:37:42Z2013-02-01T21:37:42Z<p>I love a man in a dress.</p>I love a man in a dress.TOZ (alias of TriOmegaZero)2013-02-01T21:37:42ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Battles—Rise of the Runelords: Rune GiantTwoWolves (alias of Twowlves)https://paizo.com/products/btpy8rqo/discuss&page=2?Pathfinder-Battles-Rise-of-the-Runelords-Rune-Giant#752013-02-01T21:31:05Z2013-02-01T21:31:05Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">TriOmegaZero wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Thanks Stephen. </p>
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Cat-thulhu wrote:</div><blockquote> I dn't see how he can appear naked form the waist down. </blockquote>Look at him from ONLY the waist down. </blockquote><p>Kilt-peeker!TriOmegaZero wrote:Thanks Stephen.
Cat-thulhu wrote: I dn't see how he can appear naked form the waist down.
Look at him from ONLY the waist down. Kilt-peeker!TwoWolves (alias of Twowlves)2013-02-01T21:31:05Z