Forgotten Foes (PFRPG)

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For every light, there is a darkness...
For every hero, there is a villain...
For every adventurer, there is a monster...

Forgotten Foes is a 183-page sourcebook featuring both classic and all-new monsters for use with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game. You'll find old favorites like the crypt thing and grick alongside newer Third Edition mainstays like the nightshades.

We've also combed through 3E-compatible monster books to bring you new versions of the nefarious inphidians and dangerous sin dragons—just to name a few!

Each monster comes fully detailed and illustrated along with its own handy lore table for those knowledgeable adventurers who think they might be able to get an advantage before battle.

Over 100 monsters are waiting to see action in your campaign. Just open the cover, add plot, and allow Forgotten Foes to take your game to the next level!

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Forgotten, but not gone

5/5

Riddle me this, dear reader: what’s the difference between something old, and something classic? I can’t quite describe it, but I suspect it’s one of those things where you know it when you see it. It’s that principle that makes Forgotten Foes, from Tricky Owlbear Publishing, such a great monster book – it’s a book of classic monsters brought up-to-date for the Pathfinder Role-Playing Game.

Of course, looking at the book’s pedigree, it’s kind of hard to imagine this book not being totally awesome. Written by Mark Gedak and Stefen Styrsky of the Grand OGL Wiki, with a stable of artists from Headless Hydra Games, and of course published through Tricky Owlbear, this book is at the center of a perfect storm of talent. It quite literally had to be just this good.

Just shy of two hundred pages long, Forgotten Foes brings over a hundred monsters to your Pathfinder game. I can’t quite say “new” monsters, because a significant majority of these creatures are ones who were mainstays of 3.5 who were subsequently abandoned during the Pathfinder changeover. Not all of these fall under that category, however, as there’s a handful that are from third-party 3.5 sources, also updated here. And I’m sure that a few totally new monsters are in here as well, though it’s difficult to be totally sure.

The book’s technical aspects do what they’re supposed to do. Full bookmarks are here, and the text allows for copying and pasting. Besides the front and back covers (which display some truly stunning pieces. I don’t know what that monster is on the front cover, but he’s one intimidating bastard), each monster has a black and white illustration (though shading is used far more often than not), something I was grateful for, since illustrations are very important for showcasing monsters. There’s also an alternating border on the side of the pages.

Most of the monsters in the book are given a single page all to themselves, though sometimes this rule is broken. Each has the usual combination of stat block and descriptive text, but as an added bonus there’s also a box showing what you learn about the creature on a specific Knowledge check; it’s one of those little extras that really make a difference. I should mention that the flavor text for the monsters is original, since in most cases the original source didn’t make that part Open Game Content to begin with.

One of the things that might not be obvious on the first read-through, it should be noted, is that the authors sometimes slipped in new additions or other changes to some monsters during the update to Pathfinder. The ravid, for example, now has some variants listed, in case you want a ravid that is more in tune with the life of nature and animates plants, for instance. Titans are mostly the same, but have the ability to assume the form of an elemental; an aspect of how, as near-divine beings, they’re connected to the primal elements of the universe. Little things like that are all over the place.

Of course, some things didn’t make the transition. The tojanida, for example, only has a single stat block, rather than three for younger and older incarnations of the creature. Similarly, it would have been nice to have seen variants on the half-dragon template for the sin dragons.

The book has several appendices, and while these cover the usual ways of breaking down the monsters (by type, by CR, etc.) there’s also a bit of new rules here as well. A new planar trait is given, in reference to a particular monster’s entry. Several new spells are presented, mostly because some monsters use them as spell-like abilities. Interestingly, ten pages are given reprinting the universal monster rules from the Pathfinder Bestiary. Presumably this was done for ease of reference.

Forgotten Foes is one of those books where, having read it, I’m honestly not sure how I was running a Pathfinder game without it. There’s so many monsters in here that were staples of 3.5, it’s shocking they haven’t been brought to Pathfinder before now – the bodak, the hellcat, the formians; it’s past due for them to make a comeback. Pick up Forgotten Foes and let your PCs know that the monsters that they once feared have followed them to Pathfinder.


A good product...

5/5

This is a good product, with a nice selection of monsters. They add a couple of choices to the animal companion list, which is always nice. I particularly like the tables containing the possible lore a character can get about a monster, based on their knowledge roll.


What an awesome product!

5/5

Short summary review: this is to the Pathfinder RPG what the Tome of Horrors was to 3rd Edition. Buy it. Buy it now. I'll wait...

For the slightly longer version of that, Forgotten Foes converts several classic open-gaming monstrosities to the Pathfinder RPG, and does so with style and aplomb. Each conversion is lovingly crafted, so classic creatures like the Aerial Servant, the Catoblepas, and the Aranea get as good a treatment as anything in the Bestiaries. What's even better is the new monsters, like the Chaosiics which finally fill that void in my heart since the Slaad became closed content, and the Tunnel Brute, which makes the loss of the Umber Hulk easier to bear. It's a must-have product, folks, and your game needs it whether you know it or not! Go buy it!


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This pdf is an introductory $9.99 price through Monday, Nov. 1 2010. We'd love to know what people think about this release!

Dark Archive

I like the knowledge DC checks and the Cooshee looks freaky :)

Still "thumbing" threw it now but seen that pick and just felt the need to post.


Dark_Mistress wrote:

I like the knowledge DC checks and the Cooshee looks freaky :)

Still "thumbing" threw it now but seen that pick and just felt the need to post.

I'll take "freaky" over "blah. ;) I also thought the Lore boxes were a good idea (in fact, I think that was mine!).

Dark Archive

The Sin Dragon of Lust, some of it's special abilities made me laugh.

Also I recognized most of the creatures and hadn't realized how many of them had been left out of the bestiary. Though there was a few I had never seen before.


Dark_Mistress wrote:

The Sin Dragon of Lust, some of it's special abilities made me laugh.

Also I recognized most of the creatures and hadn't realized how many of them had been left out of the bestiary. Though there was a few I had never seen before.

There's a few totally new monsters, yes. The art director put forth a little experiment which the writers took him up on which was this: some of the artists would draw whatever creature they wished. The writers would then give the illustrations a PF writeup. Turned out pretty cool (the lejnth, pond drinker, gorgoni, and stone troglodyte are 4 I can think of off the top of my head).

Liberty's Edge

So how soon until we can buy this on dead tree? :)


Stark Enterprises VP wrote:


So how soon until we can buy this on dead tree? :)

It's next on our list, my friend! As I mentioned in the 3PP thread, we need to get the specs onto Lulu and then have a copy sent to us to make sure everything is good to go. If we didn't get proof copies, your 'BtS: Compendium' dead tree version would have had a strange cover indeed. ;) In any case, we're hoping for a 3-4 week turnaround.

Liberty's Edge

TrickyOwlbear wrote:
Stark Enterprises VP wrote:


So how soon until we can buy this on dead tree? :)
It's next on our list, my friend! As I mentioned in the 3PP thread, we need to get the specs onto Lulu and then have a copy sent to us to make sure everything is good to go. If we didn't get proof copies, your 'BtS: Compendium' dead tree version would have had a strange cover indeed. ;) In any case, we're hoping for a 3-4 week turnaround.

Excellent! I'm VERY eager to give you worthy folks money! :)


Two thumbs up on this product. Overall, very pleased with it, apart from some of the art.
I will have to consider the dead tree version when it becomes available.


wspatterson wrote:

Two thumbs up on this product. Overall, very pleased with it, apart from some of the art.

I will have to consider the dead tree version when it becomes available.

Glad to hear it, thank you!


TrickyOwlbear wrote:
wspatterson wrote:

Two thumbs up on this product. Overall, very pleased with it, apart from some of the art.

I will have to consider the dead tree version when it becomes available.
Glad to hear it, thank you!

James Jacobs said there would be a republication of the Night Shades before the end of the year. Was this book the one he was talking about?

Shadow Lodge

wraithstrike wrote:


James Jacobs said there would be a republication of the Night Shades before the end of the year. Was this book the one he was talking about?

I'm pretty sure he meant in Bestiary 2.


Kthulhu wrote:
wraithstrike wrote:


James Jacobs said there would be a republication of the Night Shades before the end of the year. Was this book the one he was talking about?
I'm pretty sure he meant in Bestiary 2.

I'm also pretty sure of that. It'll be interesting to see how any duplicates between FF and Bestiary II measure up.


Questions and Comments on a brief first pass:

1. I was excited when you converted monsters like the Araena (spider hybrid) but then you proclaimed it to be in "hybrid" form but left off the other 2 forms.

2. Universal Monster Rules: The book has all the Universal Monster Rules reprinted and then new ones added in. Why reprint the whole ruleset when we have them already in the bestiary? Are these only for reference from the monsters you have in the manual as that would make sense.

3. Section 15: It's 6 pages long! Were these all used? ((Note: Not a complaint just astounded as I've never seen one so HUGE!))

4. OGL and Online: As I do a bit of work for D20PFSRD.com I'd like to import these over there and add them in. Have you spoke to anyone on that site about incorporating these monsters in? I know I'd LOVE to see them online and usable!

I will have more as I find them as I've only looked at this for maybe a total of 20min. I saw the price tag and pulled the trigger right away. 100 monsters for $10?? Sold American.


Leopold wrote:

Questions and Comments on a brief first pass:

1. I was excited when you converted monsters like the Araena (spider hybrid) but then you proclaimed it to be in "hybrid" form but left off the other 2 forms.

2. Universal Monster Rules: The book has all the Universal Monster Rules reprinted and then new ones added in. Why reprint the whole ruleset when we have them already in the bestiary? Are these only for reference from the monsters you have in the manual as that would make sense.

3. Section 15: It's 6 pages long! Were these all used? ((Note: Not a complaint just astounded as I've never seen one so HUGE!))

4. OGL and Online: As I do a bit of work for D20PFSRD.com I'd like to import these over there and add them in. Have you spoke to anyone on that site about incorporating these monsters in? I know I'd LOVE to see them online and usable!

I will have more as I find them as I've only looked at this for maybe a total of 20min. I saw the price tag and pulled the trigger right away. 100 monsters for $10?? Sold American.

Thanks for the comments here, Leopold (and for the purchase)! Let me see what I can answer here as I'm at work at the moment.

#1. Not sure what happened here. I'll have to query the authors on this one.

#2. We thought it would be convenient to have everything (including these rules) in one book.

#3. Yeah, the s15 is long. According to the license, you must cite every source cited in any book you use (a viral license). In a book I wrote for Adamant Ent. called the Dread Codex, I culled undead from MANY different books and we had a similarly-sized s15. Since FF also used a monster from that book, you can see where we're going here. Honestly, I'm surprised it wasn't longer.

#4. I made sure to note that all text of the monsters is open content so you can do what you want with them. I'm a firm believer in non-crippled OGC so you can pluck these critters for that site, publishers can use them in their own works, etc. This declaration can be found beneath my introduction on the page following the title page.


TrickyOwlbear wrote:


Thanks for the comments here, Leopold (and for the purchase)! Let me see what I can answer here as I'm at work at the moment.
#1. Not sure what happened here. I'll have to query the authors on this one.

#2. We thought it would be convenient to have everything (including these rules) in one book.

#3. Yeah, the s15 is long. According to the license, you must cite every source cited in any book you use (a viral license). In a book I wrote for Adamant Ent. called the Dread Codex, I culled undead from MANY different books and we had a similarly-sized s15. Since FF also used a monster from that book, you can see where we're going here. Honestly, I'm surprised it wasn't longer.

#4. I made sure to note that all text of the monsters is open content so you can do what you want with them. I'm a firm believer in non-crippled OGC so you can pluck these critters for that site, publishers can use them in their own works, etc. This declaration can be found...

1. Awesome, if there was more to that critter I'd love to see it.

3. I bought Dread Codex too :) and I remember that was another HUGE S15. I know the ins and outs of that S15 and it's a big pain in the rear. Such is life.
4. I remember seeing that in the first few pages and thought "That's too good to be true." Guess I'll let the folks over there know that 100+ monsters are going to be upped to the site. Oh the Bestiary crew is NOT going to be happy with me :D


Quote:

1. Awesome, if there was more to that critter I'd love to see it.

3. I bought Dread Codex too :) and I remember that was another HUGE S15. I know the ins and outs of that S15 and it's a big pain in the rear. Such is life.
4. I remember seeing that in the first few pages and thought "That's too good to be true." Guess I'll let the folks over there know that 100+ monsters are going to be upped to the site. Oh the Bestiary crew is NOT going to be happy with me :D

1. Well, I can tell you that nothing else was written for it. I believe, after some investigation, that this form is the only one presented to mimic the 3.5 srd which also statted up the hybrid only.

3. Hope you enjoyed it! :)

4. If/When that happens, we wouldn't mind a shout-out thrown Tricky Owlbear's way. ;)

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

I'm curious to see how some of these have been handled in this book, especially the ones that are set to appear in the Bestiary 2. I am endlessly fascinated by the various ways a single concept can take shape within the same basic rules framework.


Mark Moreland wrote:
I'm curious to see how some of these have been handled in this book, especially the ones that are set to appear in the Bestiary 2. I am endlessly fascinated by the various ways a single concept can take shape within the same basic rules framework.

Indeed. It is amazing how many different ways a creature can be looked at. I deeply believe that FF is the equivalent of Paizo's Bestiary(-ies).


Work has begun adding all this glory to D20PFSRD. Stay tuned for further update.


TrickyOwlBear Person!

I'm trying to contact a representative from TrickyOwlBear to discuss some work we are doing on the website D20PFSRD.com. Special Wonderful Things!

Can you direct me to or can you discuss these types of things and have you/them email me? I would greatly appreciate it. bigdady at gmail . com

The Exchange

Just an FYI, we will not be making the content immediately available.


His name is Bret... :) and you can find the Den of Tricky Owlbear here!

Not sure if there is any contact information to be found there...


Brekkil wrote:

His name is Bret... :) and you can find the Den of Tricky Owlbear here!

Not sure if there is any contact information to be found there...

already posted over there, no email or other contact info. Waiting for him or anyone to respond.

The Exchange

FYI - Tricky Owlbear has been selected as d20pfsrd.com 3PP Star of the Month for November 2010.

People really oughta buy up every copy of this book possible. This thing is stellar.


d20pfsrd.com wrote:
Just an FYI, we will not be making the content immediately available.

This is appreciated. :)

I will contact Leopold asap.

Bret Boyd
President
Tricky Owlbear Publishing, Inc.


To Bret Boyd and all the fine folks at Tricky Owlbear Publishing,

I'm sorry I missed the intro price of $9.99... but I couldn't resist and I bought the PDF today, all the good things I'm hearing about it just make it sound awesome. And as many have said before me, a GM can never have too many monster books. (Dang! I just remembered I wanted the Book of Monster Templates from Rite Publishing too... ah well a second order won't kill me... just annoy me that I need to do a second order. :P

Once I have a chance to give it a good read-through I'll post a review.

Now to do a little search-fu for the Book of Monster Templates...

Dean; The_Minstrel_Wyrm


Thanks, Dean, for checking out our book! We hope you enjoy the months of hard work that went into it and look forward to your comments.

Dark Archive

Reviewed.


Dark_Mistress wrote:
Reviewed.

Thanks for your time, here, DM and glad you enjoyed the book!

Dark Archive

Your welcome. Forgot to mention i added the review to Enworld as well.

Grand Lodge

Thanks, I wish I had seen the full list of creatures and content earlier.


Starglim wrote:
Thanks, I wish I had seen the full list of creatures and content earlier.

Sorry you didn't see the contents before, Starglim. Where do you keep abreast of PF releases? It's tough to try and catch everyone's eye but, personally, I post our release info here on the 3PP forum page. Back in August (for example), we posted a monster list HERE.

Dark Archive

Starglim wrote:
Thanks, I wish I had seen the full list of creatures and content earlier.

Is that for good or bad reasons you wish you had seen it sooner?

Grand Lodge

Dark_Mistress wrote:
Starglim wrote:
Thanks, I wish I had seen the full list of creatures and content earlier.
Is that for good or bad reasons you wish you had seen it sooner?

Good reasons - I would have saved some money by picking it up at the reduced price. I suppose there's no accounting for what will catch someone's imagination.

I read the third-party forum here, though I wouldn't say that I see every message. Now that I think about it, I might have seen the monster list at one point.


I have to get this book - it could become a kind of Tome of Horrors for PFRPG...
Oh well, there is always next month. :)
Just a pity I missed the introductory price.


Endzeitgeist wrote:

I have to get this book - it could become a kind of Tome of Horrors for PFRPG...

Oh well, there is always next month. :)
Just a pity I missed the introductory price.

We're also hoping it becomes a kind of ToH for PF (since many of the monsters are from that fine book). Sorry you missed the intro price. If anyone has better suggestions for how to advertise these releases, I'm all ears. We posted everywhere I could think of and then bumped those threads once before the sale price ended.

Sovereign Court

TrickyOwlbear wrote:
wspatterson wrote:

Two thumbs up on this product. Overall, very pleased with it, apart from some of the art.

I will have to consider the dead tree version when it becomes available.
Glad to hear it, thank you!

So ... about print ? or POD ? Any Chance ?


Well, it's probably not due to lack of trying, I've just got some days where I don't have the time to check my channels for new releases.

If I like the pdf, I'd consider a POD, too. :)


I think I mentioned it above, but the chance of PoD is 100%! We're working on it right now.


I just discovered this and the contents and it is actually going to be very helpful as there are several creatures in here that I was endeavoring to convert to Pathfinder. I just started running The Gray Citadel and have spent the last couple of months Pathfinderizing it. The grick's, the grimlocks, the dire frogs, all now appear in this Tome.

Once payday rolls around, I will be picking this up.

Thanks.


Sethvir wrote:

I just discovered this and the contents and it is actually going to be very helpful as there are several creatures in here that I was endeavoring to convert to Pathfinder. I just started running The Gray Citadel and have spent the last couple of months Pathfinderizing it. The grick's, the grimlocks, the dire frogs, all now appear in this Tome.

Once payday rolls around, I will be picking this up.

Thanks.

Thank you, Sethvir! We're glad we can make your GMing life a little easier.


Wow, Forgotten Foes has definitely proven itself as Tricky Owlbear's most popular book. We've now reached 100 purchases in a short time. Thanks to everyone who's picked up a copy and let's keep this momentum going!!

Liberty's Edge

TrickyOwlbear wrote:
Wow, Forgotten Foes has definitely proven itself as Tricky Owlbear's most popular book. We've now reached 100 purchases in a short time. Thanks to everyone who's picked up a copy and let's keep this momentum going!!

Congrats! This sounds like a great product!


I'll pick up a dead tree version when it becomes available; meanwhile, I would request you poke the good people at Hero Labs and get them to license it as a data set... ;)

-The Gneech


TrickyOwlbear wrote:


Thank you, Sethvir! We're glad we can make your GMing life a little easier.

Picked up. Thanks again.


Any news on the print front?

-TG


Not yet, John. I think the holidays are holding things up more than expected. Rest assured, I'll be posting about the print form when it happens.


Review posted; you can count on me buying the print copy. Also, are there any plans to release anything more about the Mâlites? Or even a book on Mâl for that matter. Thanks again.


Necromancer wrote:
Review posted; you can count on me buying the print copy. Also, are there any plans to release anything more about the Mâlites? Or even a book on Mâl for that matter. Thanks again.

Thanks for the review!

At this time, there are no plans to develop the Mâlites but, if people start to ask for it, that could change.

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