
TrickyOwlbear |

The Sin Dragon of Lust, some of it's special abilities made me laugh.
Also I recognized most of the creatures and hadn't realized how many of them had been left out of the bestiary. Though there was a few I had never seen before.
There's a few totally new monsters, yes. The art director put forth a little experiment which the writers took him up on which was this: some of the artists would draw whatever creature they wished. The writers would then give the illustrations a PF writeup. Turned out pretty cool (the lejnth, pond drinker, gorgoni, and stone troglodyte are 4 I can think of off the top of my head).

TrickyOwlbear |

So how soon until we can buy this on dead tree? :)
It's next on our list, my friend! As I mentioned in the 3PP thread, we need to get the specs onto Lulu and then have a copy sent to us to make sure everything is good to go. If we didn't get proof copies, your 'BtS: Compendium' dead tree version would have had a strange cover indeed. ;) In any case, we're hoping for a 3-4 week turnaround.

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Stark Enterprises VP wrote:It's next on our list, my friend! As I mentioned in the 3PP thread, we need to get the specs onto Lulu and then have a copy sent to us to make sure everything is good to go. If we didn't get proof copies, your 'BtS: Compendium' dead tree version would have had a strange cover indeed. ;) In any case, we're hoping for a 3-4 week turnaround.
So how soon until we can buy this on dead tree? :)
Excellent! I'm VERY eager to give you worthy folks money! :)

wraithstrike |

wspatterson wrote:Glad to hear it, thank you!Two thumbs up on this product. Overall, very pleased with it, apart from some of the art.
I will have to consider the dead tree version when it becomes available.
James Jacobs said there would be a republication of the Night Shades before the end of the year. Was this book the one he was talking about?

TrickyOwlbear |

wraithstrike wrote:I'm pretty sure he meant in Bestiary 2.
James Jacobs said there would be a republication of the Night Shades before the end of the year. Was this book the one he was talking about?
I'm also pretty sure of that. It'll be interesting to see how any duplicates between FF and Bestiary II measure up.

Leopold |

Questions and Comments on a brief first pass:
1. I was excited when you converted monsters like the Araena (spider hybrid) but then you proclaimed it to be in "hybrid" form but left off the other 2 forms.
2. Universal Monster Rules: The book has all the Universal Monster Rules reprinted and then new ones added in. Why reprint the whole ruleset when we have them already in the bestiary? Are these only for reference from the monsters you have in the manual as that would make sense.
3. Section 15: It's 6 pages long! Were these all used? ((Note: Not a complaint just astounded as I've never seen one so HUGE!))
4. OGL and Online: As I do a bit of work for D20PFSRD.com I'd like to import these over there and add them in. Have you spoke to anyone on that site about incorporating these monsters in? I know I'd LOVE to see them online and usable!
I will have more as I find them as I've only looked at this for maybe a total of 20min. I saw the price tag and pulled the trigger right away. 100 monsters for $10?? Sold American.

TrickyOwlbear |

Questions and Comments on a brief first pass:
1. I was excited when you converted monsters like the Araena (spider hybrid) but then you proclaimed it to be in "hybrid" form but left off the other 2 forms.
2. Universal Monster Rules: The book has all the Universal Monster Rules reprinted and then new ones added in. Why reprint the whole ruleset when we have them already in the bestiary? Are these only for reference from the monsters you have in the manual as that would make sense.
3. Section 15: It's 6 pages long! Were these all used? ((Note: Not a complaint just astounded as I've never seen one so HUGE!))
4. OGL and Online: As I do a bit of work for D20PFSRD.com I'd like to import these over there and add them in. Have you spoke to anyone on that site about incorporating these monsters in? I know I'd LOVE to see them online and usable!
I will have more as I find them as I've only looked at this for maybe a total of 20min. I saw the price tag and pulled the trigger right away. 100 monsters for $10?? Sold American.
Thanks for the comments here, Leopold (and for the purchase)! Let me see what I can answer here as I'm at work at the moment.
#1. Not sure what happened here. I'll have to query the authors on this one.#2. We thought it would be convenient to have everything (including these rules) in one book.
#3. Yeah, the s15 is long. According to the license, you must cite every source cited in any book you use (a viral license). In a book I wrote for Adamant Ent. called the Dread Codex, I culled undead from MANY different books and we had a similarly-sized s15. Since FF also used a monster from that book, you can see where we're going here. Honestly, I'm surprised it wasn't longer.
#4. I made sure to note that all text of the monsters is open content so you can do what you want with them. I'm a firm believer in non-crippled OGC so you can pluck these critters for that site, publishers can use them in their own works, etc. This declaration can be found beneath my introduction on the page following the title page.

Leopold |

Thanks for the comments here, Leopold (and for the purchase)! Let me see what I can answer here as I'm at work at the moment.
#1. Not sure what happened here. I'll have to query the authors on this one.#2. We thought it would be convenient to have everything (including these rules) in one book.
#3. Yeah, the s15 is long. According to the license, you must cite every source cited in any book you use (a viral license). In a book I wrote for Adamant Ent. called the Dread Codex, I culled undead from MANY different books and we had a similarly-sized s15. Since FF also used a monster from that book, you can see where we're going here. Honestly, I'm surprised it wasn't longer.
#4. I made sure to note that all text of the monsters is open content so you can do what you want with them. I'm a firm believer in non-crippled OGC so you can pluck these critters for that site, publishers can use them in their own works, etc. This declaration can be found...
1. Awesome, if there was more to that critter I'd love to see it.
3. I bought Dread Codex too :) and I remember that was another HUGE S15. I know the ins and outs of that S15 and it's a big pain in the rear. Such is life.4. I remember seeing that in the first few pages and thought "That's too good to be true." Guess I'll let the folks over there know that 100+ monsters are going to be upped to the site. Oh the Bestiary crew is NOT going to be happy with me :D

TrickyOwlbear |

1. Awesome, if there was more to that critter I'd love to see it.
3. I bought Dread Codex too :) and I remember that was another HUGE S15. I know the ins and outs of that S15 and it's a big pain in the rear. Such is life.
4. I remember seeing that in the first few pages and thought "That's too good to be true." Guess I'll let the folks over there know that 100+ monsters are going to be upped to the site. Oh the Bestiary crew is NOT going to be happy with me :D
1. Well, I can tell you that nothing else was written for it. I believe, after some investigation, that this form is the only one presented to mimic the 3.5 srd which also statted up the hybrid only.
3. Hope you enjoyed it! :)
4. If/When that happens, we wouldn't mind a shout-out thrown Tricky Owlbear's way. ;)

TrickyOwlbear |

I'm curious to see how some of these have been handled in this book, especially the ones that are set to appear in the Bestiary 2. I am endlessly fascinated by the various ways a single concept can take shape within the same basic rules framework.
Indeed. It is amazing how many different ways a creature can be looked at. I deeply believe that FF is the equivalent of Paizo's Bestiary(-ies).

Leopold |

TrickyOwlBear Person!
I'm trying to contact a representative from TrickyOwlBear to discuss some work we are doing on the website D20PFSRD.com. Special Wonderful Things!
Can you direct me to or can you discuss these types of things and have you/them email me? I would greatly appreciate it. bigdady at gmail . com

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FYI - Tricky Owlbear has been selected as d20pfsrd.com 3PP Star of the Month for November 2010.
People really oughta buy up every copy of this book possible. This thing is stellar.

The_Minstrel_Wyrm |

To Bret Boyd and all the fine folks at Tricky Owlbear Publishing,
I'm sorry I missed the intro price of $9.99... but I couldn't resist and I bought the PDF today, all the good things I'm hearing about it just make it sound awesome. And as many have said before me, a GM can never have too many monster books. (Dang! I just remembered I wanted the Book of Monster Templates from Rite Publishing too... ah well a second order won't kill me... just annoy me that I need to do a second order. :P
Once I have a chance to give it a good read-through I'll post a review.
Now to do a little search-fu for the Book of Monster Templates...
Dean; The_Minstrel_Wyrm

TrickyOwlbear |

Thanks, I wish I had seen the full list of creatures and content earlier.
Sorry you didn't see the contents before, Starglim. Where do you keep abreast of PF releases? It's tough to try and catch everyone's eye but, personally, I post our release info here on the 3PP forum page. Back in August (for example), we posted a monster list HERE.

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Starglim wrote:Thanks, I wish I had seen the full list of creatures and content earlier.Is that for good or bad reasons you wish you had seen it sooner?
Good reasons - I would have saved some money by picking it up at the reduced price. I suppose there's no accounting for what will catch someone's imagination.
I read the third-party forum here, though I wouldn't say that I see every message. Now that I think about it, I might have seen the monster list at one point.

TrickyOwlbear |

I have to get this book - it could become a kind of Tome of Horrors for PFRPG...
Oh well, there is always next month. :)
Just a pity I missed the introductory price.
We're also hoping it becomes a kind of ToH for PF (since many of the monsters are from that fine book). Sorry you missed the intro price. If anyone has better suggestions for how to advertise these releases, I'm all ears. We posted everywhere I could think of and then bumped those threads once before the sale price ended.

Sethvir |

I just discovered this and the contents and it is actually going to be very helpful as there are several creatures in here that I was endeavoring to convert to Pathfinder. I just started running The Gray Citadel and have spent the last couple of months Pathfinderizing it. The grick's, the grimlocks, the dire frogs, all now appear in this Tome.
Once payday rolls around, I will be picking this up.
Thanks.

TrickyOwlbear |

I just discovered this and the contents and it is actually going to be very helpful as there are several creatures in here that I was endeavoring to convert to Pathfinder. I just started running The Gray Citadel and have spent the last couple of months Pathfinderizing it. The grick's, the grimlocks, the dire frogs, all now appear in this Tome.
Once payday rolls around, I will be picking this up.
Thanks.
Thank you, Sethvir! We're glad we can make your GMing life a little easier.

TrickyOwlbear |

Review posted; you can count on me buying the print copy. Also, are there any plans to release anything more about the Mâlites? Or even a book on Mâl for that matter. Thanks again.
Thanks for the review!
At this time, there are no plans to develop the Mâlites but, if people start to ask for it, that could change.