Justin Franklin |
Vic Wertz wrote:James Jacobs wrote:(And for folks who aren't quite ready to shell out the full price for the print copy, there's always the ten dollar PDF for the revision-curious.)Don't listen to him—the PDF is only $9.99. James is just trying to execute his hare-brained scheme that involves siphoning all of those rounded-off pennies into his own store credit account. The guy is a criminal mastermind, I tell ya!Hmm, to pick up the PDF first and see what it's like before going for the hardcover? Or to simply stock up the pennies and get the hardcover, like I know I will?
Decisions, decisions...
Subscribe get both! :)
Gorbacz |
Gorbacz wrote:But please, please, avoid the FR syndrome of "for every nice town there's at least one bronze dragon who comes round for Friday night drikinig". Pleeease.Haven't we so far?
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. We will be on lookout for drunken bronzes in taverns, and we'll let you know the moment they step in :)
Starsunder |
Kvantum wrote:March now? Seriously? How many delays can this book get?Until it is as great as we can make it. This is a book that we want to keep in print for a LONG time, so taking the extra time to look it over one more time and catching a few more errors is worth it. A lot of companies are willing to sacrifice quality in order to hit deadlines. Not us. I would rather have a book be a lot late than to have it be something that we aren't proud of. And having stayed at work until almost midnight on Friday giving this book the last once-over, I have to say that I am very proud of this book and think it may very well be the single best campaign book I have ever seen. :)
-Lisa
Yup, it's this commitment to quality that makes Paizo the (imo) absolute best at what they do.
James Jacobs Creative Director |
Gorbacz |
Charles Evans 25 wrote:In fact, I'm all about forgetting that guy.And don't forget that copper dragon who according to Dragons revisited seems to spend a lot of time drinking around Olfden... ;)
+1. I was unwise enough to mention him, and one of my groups spent one whole day trying to figure out a way to contact that dragon and get his help. Blergh.
James Jacobs Creative Director |
Eric Hinkle |
James Jacobs wrote:+1. I was unwise enough to mention him, and one of my groups spent one whole day trying to figure out a way to contact that dragon and get his help. Blergh.Charles Evans 25 wrote:In fact, I'm all about forgetting that guy.And don't forget that copper dragon who according to Dragons revisited seems to spend a lot of time drinking around Olfden... ;)
Well, you could work it into a campaign by having your PCs search for him, only to find his mangled corpse as well as whoever slew him and is plundering his hoard.
Truth be told, I like the idea of a few dragons interacting with humans on a non-hostile basis, like the copper and Taxthyl/whatever her name is, the scholarly green in the Arthfell forest. I'd like to use her as the "local scholar", except that she gets VERY touchy when the furless apes keep bothering her. That, and she means to use them against Daralathaxyl in the long run.
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Fellwalker |
NOW I am forced to face a problem. I have Forgotten Realms stuff all over...I used to be able to walk from Arabel to Zhentil Keep to Mulmaster by memory. I have BOXES of 2nd and third edition stuff with Volo's This and Elmister's that added to the mix. I loved some of the things done there and love the land still but Golarion steadily entices. It's definately more low magic/grittier which I like but it would be a sad moment if I box up the FR to make needed room for PFRPG stuff which I kinda need to do. How does one say goodbye to the NPCs that lurked in my brain and the PC moments that I didn't record like I should have, like a good DM would have...
Ahh Golarion I grow fond of your embrace but within your realms will I ever end up having a beer with a local drunk that turns out to ba a dragon?
Gorbacz |
NOW I am forced to face a problem. I have Forgotten Realms stuff all over...I used to be able to walk from Arabel to Zhentil Keep to Mulmaster by memory. I have BOXES of 2nd and third edition stuff with Volo's This and Elmister's that added to the mix. I loved some of the things done there and love the land still but Golarion steadily entices. It's definately more low magic/grittier which I like but it would be a sad moment if I box up the FR to make needed room for PFRPG stuff which I kinda need to do. How does one say goodbye to the NPCs that lurked in my brain and the PC moments that I didn't record like I should have, like a good DM would have...
Ahh Golarion I grow fond of your embrace but within your realms will I ever end up having a beer with a local drunk that turns out to ba a dragon?
Unfortunately/fortunately yes, there's at least one "local drunkard" dragon in Golarion ...
James Jacobs Creative Director |
OK, 9 monsters. It's time for some speculation.
AFAIK it was confirmed that:
Treerazer
Charau-Ka
Gillmenare in, leaving us with 6 more. What other iconic Golarion-ey monsters might that be ?
Most will be reprints picked up from previous books... but one will be brand new. Technically, the Charau-ka and the gillmen are ALSO brand new, I guess...
Dark_Mistress |
NOW I am forced to face a problem. I have Forgotten Realms stuff all over...I used to be able to walk from Arabel to Zhentil Keep to Mulmaster by memory. I have BOXES of 2nd and third edition stuff with Volo's This and Elmister's that added to the mix. I loved some of the things done there and love the land still but Golarion steadily entices. It's definately more low magic/grittier which I like but it would be a sad moment if I box up the FR to make needed room for PFRPG stuff which I kinda need to do. How does one say goodbye to the NPCs that lurked in my brain and the PC moments that I didn't record like I should have, like a good DM would have...
Ahh Golarion I grow fond of your embrace but within your realms will I ever end up having a beer with a local drunk that turns out to ba a dragon?
I was a huge FR fan back in the day of the grey boxed set and they did all the small region books. But after awhile it just got to high magic for me and I went back to making my own worlds. Now i have moved on to Golarion. So why not pick up the Golarion stuff, I mean you could always in a few years go back and revisit FR like seeing a old friend.
Demiurge 1138 RPG Superstar 2013 Top 8 |
James Jacobs Creative Director |
I believe that the Numerian spine-dragon has been mentioned before as a monster in this book. If that's the only new one... sigh. No metal men?
The spine dragon (which was mentioned before in Pathfinder #2 as being a type of dragon that lives in Numeria) is indeed in the book. It's not a "true" dragon (no age categories) but it is like CR 16.
Aw, heck. Why not.
Here's the list of monsters in the monster chapter:
Aluum (from Dark Markets)
Calikang (from Pathfinder #29)
Charau-ka (new)
Daughter of Urgathoa (from Pathfinder #8)
Gillman (new)
Sandpoint Devil (from Pathfinder #1)
Spine Dragon (new)
Strix (from Pathfinder #25)
Treerazer (from Pathfinder #17)
No metal men. The weird technological elements of Numeria require more pages than we would have been able to afford to give them in this book.
That said... we DO have plans to eventually say more about Numeria's denizens. Stay tuned!
James Jacobs Creative Director |
Cool the creature list, can't wait.
More info on Numeria's denizens, star metals, etc. in a future book, sweet.
Spine dragon is not a "true dragon", so is it unigue or just primitive dragon like a drake or linnorm?
The spine dragon is a creature of the dragon type. It's not part of any "dragon family" (it's not a linnorm nor a drake); it's basically in the same category as things like pseudodragons or wyverns.
The_Minstrel_Wyrm |
Sweet!
Excited to hear that the "Numerian" Spine Dragon has game stats.
Also excited to hear that "at some point in time" we will see more about Numeria's "metal men" and denizens. That is particularly interesting news.
Thanks James. (I mean, Mr. Jacobs). :-)
Dean (TMW)
Dragon78 |
I didn't say it was a drake or linnorm, I said it was like them in the sense of not being a true dragon. Besides wyverns and drakes have the same body arch type as each other. Also calling a CR 16 creature like a pseudodragon is an interesting thought. So what kind of body arch type is it? Like a standard dragon with four legs, wings, etc? Does have a serpent like body? Is it like a drake/wyvern?
James Jacobs Creative Director |
I didn't say it was a drake or linnorm, I said it was like them in the sense of not being a true dragon. Besides wyverns and drakes have the same body arch type as each other. Also calling a CR 16 creature like a pseudodragon is an interesting thought. So what kind of body arch type is it? Like a standard dragon with four legs, wings, etc? Does have a serpent like body? Is it like a drake/wyvern?
Aside from revealing the names... that's about all I'm willing to do so far. Gotta leave SOMETHING in the book for everyone to anticipate, after all. :)
Asgetrion |
Fellwalker wrote:I was a huge FR fan back in the day of the grey boxed set and they did all the small region books. But after awhile it just got to high magic for me and I went back to making my own worlds. Now i have moved on to Golarion. So why not pick up the Golarion stuff, I mean you could always in a few years go back and revisit FR like seeing a old friend.NOW I am forced to face a problem. I have Forgotten Realms stuff all over...I used to be able to walk from Arabel to Zhentil Keep to Mulmaster by memory. I have BOXES of 2nd and third edition stuff with Volo's This and Elmister's that added to the mix. I loved some of the things done there and love the land still but Golarion steadily entices. It's definately more low magic/grittier which I like but it would be a sad moment if I box up the FR to make needed room for PFRPG stuff which I kinda need to do. How does one say goodbye to the NPCs that lurked in my brain and the PC moments that I didn't record like I should have, like a good DM would have...
Ahh Golarion I grow fond of your embrace but within your realms will I ever end up having a beer with a local drunk that turns out to ba a dragon?
I was/am a huge FR fan, too; and I've played in and ran many memorable campaigns there. But now I've moved on, because I see in Golarion the same kind of attention to detail that originally made me fall in love with FR. So, to echo the words of Dark Succub... Mistress: why not give it a try? :)
Charles Evans 25 |
NOW I am forced to face a problem. I have Forgotten Realms stuff all over...I used to be able to walk from Arabel to Zhentil Keep to Mulmaster by memory. I have BOXES of 2nd and third edition stuff with Volo's This and Elmister's that added to the mix. I loved some of the things done there and love the land still but Golarion steadily entices. It's definately more low magic/grittier which I like but it would be a sad moment if I box up the FR to make needed room for PFRPG stuff which I kinda need to do. How does one say goodbye to the NPCs that lurked in my brain and the PC moments that I didn't record like I should have, like a good DM would have...
Ahh Golarion I grow fond of your embrace but within your realms will I ever end up having a beer with a local drunk that turns out to ba a dragon?
I recently encountered much the same problem and, having already used up the option of minimising space occupied by the second edition stuff by putting books in with the relevant boxes where possible (EG Skullport in Waterdeep boxed set, Stardock in with Ruins of Undermountain, Cloak and Dagger in with Zhentil Keep), I concluded disposing of third edition Realms source/rule books was the way to go, since a lot of them duplicated information I already had in greater detail in the second edition books.
I don't know if that would work for you though - I never played with 3rd edition Realms anywhere near as much as I did with the second edition ones.Elorebaen |
NOW I am forced to face a problem. I have Forgotten Realms stuff all over...I used to be able to walk from Arabel to Zhentil Keep to Mulmaster by memory. I have BOXES of 2nd and third edition stuff with Volo's This and Elmister's that added to the mix. I loved some of the things done there and love the land still but Golarion steadily entices. It's definately more low magic/grittier which I like but it would be a sad moment if I box up the FR to make needed room for PFRPG stuff which I kinda need to do. How does one say goodbye to the NPCs that lurked in my brain and the PC moments that I didn't record like I should have, like a good DM would have...
Ahh Golarion I grow fond of your embrace but within your realms will I ever end up having a beer with a local drunk that turns out to ba a dragon?
Welcome aboard!
I don't think you need to box the FR stuff, I utilize FR places and NPCs regularly in my Golarion campaign. A quick change of a name/god/etc, and you are good to go.
James Jacobs Creative Director |
I like the finished cover. Now my question is: what about the spine? Will it match the other hardbacks, even though it's technically not a "crunch" book? I would guess if so, it'll be a burnt orange to match that logo?
I can't remember for sure, but I'm 99% sure that the spine for this book does not match the rulebook's style or feel. Because the "Inner Sea World Guide" is not part of the hardcover rulebook line, we didn't want to brand it as one.
Slipstream |
I can't remember for sure, but I'm 99% sure that the spine for this book does not match the rulebook's style or feel. Because the "Inner Sea World Guide" is not part of the hardcover rulebook line, we didn't want to brand it as one.
That makes sense. Looking forward to it regardless.
Laschoni |
James Jacobs wrote:That makes sense. Looking forward to it regardless.
I can't remember for sure, but I'm 99% sure that the spine for this book does not match the rulebook's style or feel. Because the "Inner Sea World Guide" is not part of the hardcover rulebook line, we didn't want to brand it as one.
I am glad to know that I am not the only one who was curious as to how the spine looked.
I was hoping it would match the other large Pathfinder books I own, but I get the reasoning.
Narno the Necromancer |
Hi!
I've not read the whole thread, but I'd like to know how much use this book could be for someone who really likes the setting but who has no interest in running it with the Pathfinder/D&D/d20 rules system. Is it worth the investment if one is looking solely for setting material (so little to no crunch)?
Thanks in advance!
Liz Courts Contributor |
Hi!
I've not read the whole thread, but I'd like to know how much use this book could be for someone who really likes the setting but who has no interest in running it with the Pathfinder/D&D/d20 rules system. Is it worth the investment if one is looking solely for setting material (so little to no crunch)?
Thanks in advance!
If this is anything like the original Campaign Setting, what mechanics there are can easily be ignored if you are looking purely for setting material. (I will snag somebody to confirm!)
James Jacobs Creative Director |
Hi!
I've not read the whole thread, but I'd like to know how much use this book could be for someone who really likes the setting but who has no interest in running it with the Pathfinder/D&D/d20 rules system. Is it worth the investment if one is looking solely for setting material (so little to no crunch)?
Thanks in advance!
If you really like the setting, the Inner Sea World Guide should be perfect for you, regardless of whether you use Pathfinder, D&D, BRP, BECMI, AD&D, GURPS, or any other all-caps acronym rules system.
There WILL be rules content in the book, but they are, for the most part, collected in two chapters (the "Adventuring in the Inner Sea" chapter, which has prestige classes, feats, spells, magic items, and equipment) and the Monsters chapter. Those two chapters account for about 50 pages of the 320 page book. (There ARE tiny rules bits scattered here and there through the rest of the book, but not a lot...).
In fact, the decision to compile the rules into two chapters was done partially to make it easier for folks who weren't using PFRPG to use Golarion in their games. (And also because those who DO use the PFRPG should find it easier to find the rules when they're not scattered across the entire book.)
Narno the Necromancer |
Wow! That was quick, thanks!
I'm sold then! I love the great mix of high-adventure, sword-and-sorcery and pulp-action the setting provides. And the APs are a great sell too, especially all the useful articles and setting chapters they contain. The only problem is which to pick first, I like almost all of them :D
Saludos!
Enlight_Bystand |
A Golarion branding separate from the Pathfinder branding ever considered (ie: Golarion logo)?
Not a Paizo person, but I would suspect that they would want the branding tied to the product line - so campaign setting, module, ap etc. Also a Golarion specific logo might cause problems if they did a book on the other planets in the solar system.
On that note, please do a book on the other planets in the solar system!
James Jacobs Creative Director |
A Golarion branding separate from the Pathfinder branding ever considered (ie: Golarion logo)?
Since ALL of the books we publish are set in Golarion with the exception of the core book line... it'd be easier to make a separate logo for the RPG line. That said, we don't really want to create a schism in our branding like that, since to us, Golarion is as important as the Pathfinder RPG. Probably MORE important, actually, since Golarion is all our own intellectual property.
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
Uninvited Ghost wrote:A Golarion branding separate from the Pathfinder branding ever considered (ie: Golarion logo)?Since ALL of the books we publish are set in Golarion with the exception of the core book line... it'd be easier to make a separate logo for the RPG line.
Which is exactly what we did: It says "Pathfinder Roleplaying Game."
Thomas LeBlanc RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32 |
I have to say I am really looking forward to this book. I still will be using my old crushed corner campaign setting book, along with my ragged gazetteer for the foreseeable future. I just wish the fighter school concept from the old campaign setting would have been expanded on more at some point by now. I have 7 fighter schools I have for my group which see regular use.
James Jacobs Creative Director |
magnuskn |
magnuskn wrote:Which sub-domains would Besmara have. Well, to be more precise, would she grant the Tactics sub-domain? :)She would. For more details, tune in both this Thursday and, hopefully, NEXT Thursday to the blog...
Wow, I hadn't thought my question would get this much attention! oO
Anyway, many thanks for clearing that up! :)
Uninvited Ghost |
James Jacobs wrote:Which is exactly what we did: It says "Pathfinder Roleplaying Game."Uninvited Ghost wrote:A Golarion branding separate from the Pathfinder branding ever considered (ie: Golarion logo)?Since ALL of the books we publish are set in Golarion with the exception of the core book line... it'd be easier to make a separate logo for the RPG line.
From where I'm standing, they all say Pathfinder, none of them say Golarion. :)
I'm not saying just one or the other, I'm saying that Golarion have it's own logo beneath the Pathfinder logo.
You know, like previous editions of Pathfinder did it, when it used to be called Dungeons & Dragons. ;)