Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Bestiary 2 (OGL)

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Go beyond goblins with an army of fantasy's most fearsome foes! Bestiary 2 presents hundreds of different creatures for use in the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game. Within this collection of creatures you'll find undead dragons and mischievous gremlins, shrieking banshees and unstoppable titans, the infamous jabberwock, and so much more! Yet not all these monsters need to be foes, as new breeds of otherworldly guardians, living shadows, and vampires all might take up adventure's call. In addition, new rules for customizing and advancing monsters and an expanded glossary of creature abilities ensure that you'll be prepared to challenge your heroes wherever adventure takes them!

The Pathfinder RPG Bestiary 2 is the second indispensable volume of monsters for use with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game and serves as a companion to the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook and Pathfinder RPG Bestiary. This imaginative tabletop game builds upon more than 10 years of system development and an Open Playtest featuring more than 50,000 gamers to create a cutting-edge RPG experience that brings the all-time best-selling set of fantasy rules into the new millennium.

The 320-page Pathfinder RPG Bestiary 2 includes:

  • More than 300 different monsters
  • Creatures both new and familiar, drawing upon the best-known beasts of legend, literature, and Pathfinder RPG adventures
  • Challenges for any adventure and every level of play
  • Hosts of new templates and variants, including simple templates for on-the-fly creature customization
  • Numerous lists of monsters to aid in navigation, including lists by Challenge Rating, monster type, and habitat
  • New rules for creating and running high-level menaces
  • Expanded universal monster rules to simplify special attacks, defenses, and qualities
  • New familiars, animal companions, and other allies
  • ... and much, much more!

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My favorite book from Paizo.

5/5

This book so far has been my favorite purchase of ALL of my RPG books.
I don't know if I can explain the fervor I have for this book but I will try.

So first of all there is the cover, the ever feared Jabberwock(y) of Lewis Carroll legend. Having a tough SOB (CR23) on the cover is the best way to start things off I think. Lets me know im in for a ride with this book.

While the first Bestiary was the standard array of Monsters we have all come to know and love through years of them being reprinted for games the Bestiary 2 is where Paizo took off on its own with a whole slew of new monster and just general new ideas for monsters. A handful of new extraplanar monsters of various alignments were added such as The Aeons, Qlippoths and Daemons all have decently written history and offer a lot of inspiration for using them in games.

The two things I love best about this book are as follows.
One: New dragons, and not just more "coloured or metal" dragons, but a new type of dragon altogether: Primal Dragons. These bad boys have probably the best art in the whole book (magma, im looking at you) and they make for a nice change from the everyday.

Two: The art, while the art in Bestiary 1 is GOOD, its not near as sharp, crisp, and detailed as this book. The colours, the textures, the everything, all done very well. You will not be disappointed when looking through this book.


Great buy!

5/5

I really enjoyed the artwork and the monsters presented in this book, especially the Qlippoth! Must have for your pathfinder library!


Back to the Golden Age

5/5

Looking through the PDF of Bestiary 2, I find myself remembering the days in the 1980s when I'd sit in the back of the mall bookstore and leaf through the various gaming tomes I couldn't possibly buy all of.

Crystal Dragons, Aeons, and several others in this book remind of that golden era, when DMs had such a wide variety of unusual (and often new-age-y) creatures at their disposals, they couldn't possibly ever use them all.

Sure, some of the creatures are a little odd, but on the other hand, the vast variety will lead to some adventurer groups with a far different list of encountered monsters than the norm.

I personally can't wait to spring the Dullahan (aka Headless Horseman) and Animate Dream on my party!


Something does not add up...

3/5

Not as extensive as the first, yet the same price...

I do not mind the creatures in this book, but it does get less use than my other bestiary. However it still has the same problem as the first also. The use of generic rules for a creature type. For an actual hardcover book to be useful in a game (for creatures) you MUST be able to have all rules for the creature on the one page. The use of rules based on a type of creature that you need to leave the creatures page to reference is irritating and a waste of in game time.

Please fix this problem. I understand that constructs all have similarities but I need the rules on each constructs page to reference. Not have to skip to the end of the book to see if they have something relevant when they need it.


Cautiously recommended

4/5

I find some of the artwork choices dubious and some of the stat-blocks clearly don't hold up under close examination.
Also only about a third of the creature content is of current use/interest to me.

BUT, all that said, in a book this size at this price that third of content is the right side of value for money for me, and there's enough variety here in the creatures that I don't personally have much time for that I'm certain most of them will appeal to a fair portion of the audience amongst other readers. This is a follow-up bestiary - and like most such works it faces the challenge that most of the decent staples of fantasy have already been covered in an earlier work, inviting the editors to try and diversify to give everyone a bit of what they might want...

Warts and all this is a pretty spiffing book, and I would cautiously recommend it.
I give it a rating of four stars.


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Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

This is really a great book! Combined with the first Bestiary, there are so many fantastic and unique outsiders to populate the planes with... great!

Now all that's missing is a PLANAR ADVENTURE PATH!

That would be fabulous!

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

I loved this book.

It's just unfortunate that the longest stat blocks usually end up with shortest shrift in regards to flavour text. It's about the only gripe that I have.


JMD031 wrote:
I just picked this up today from my FLGS and I am throughly impressed. My favorite parts are how it describes how to alter several of the monsters to make them different from the standard blocks. Great job guys.

I really like this as well, such as with the Jabberwock and dullahan. I thought the dullahan in particular with him driving the entire coach and keeping souls in there was awesome; made me think of the coach from Bram Stokers Dracula.


James Jacobs wrote:
Razz wrote:


The other thing I'm kind of scratching my head on is the qlippoth compared with the obyriths of 3.5e. They seem similiar, except their horrific appearance is reliant on sight (when it should assault all 5 senses), they're immune to cold, and they lack fast healing?

So should I give all my obyriths the qlippoth subtype stats or should I give the qlippoths the obyrith subtype stats? How would I determine fast healing in the latter case?

When I made up the obyriths for 3.5, the qlippoth were part of my inspiration. Since obyriths are not open content, but qlippoth are, and since I'm a huge fan of the "proto-demon," it just made sense to simply embrace qlippoth as the creature of choice for this role in Pathfinder.

If you want to use obyriths and qlippoth in the same game, they should go together perfectly. You don't really need to make one fit the other. If you do, though, pick which one you like more and go with that one's traits for all of them. The best way to determine fast healing amounts is to simply look at a monster that has the same CR and fast healing and copy that monster's fast healing value.

Thanks for the advice and for the commentary on the Qlippoth/Obyrith. Dumb question: they /were/ inspired by the idea of the Qlippoth from Jewish Kabbalism, right?

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Eric Hinkle wrote:
Thanks for the advice and for the commentary on the Qlippoth/Obyrith. Dumb question: they /were/ inspired by the idea of the Qlippoth from Jewish Kabbalism, right?

Correct! On the source of their inspiration, that is... not that it's a dumb question! :P


Amazon just pushed back their ship date again!!!


Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Oh, great, that means that Amazon.de will probably ship it at the end of February. Well, I got the PDF, but it's a poor substitute for having the real hardcover in my hands.


James Jacobs wrote:
Eric Hinkle wrote:
Thanks for the advice and for the commentary on the Qlippoth/Obyrith. Dumb question: they /were/ inspired by the idea of the Qlippoth from Jewish Kabbalism, right?
Correct! On the source of their inspiration, that is... not that it's a dumb question! :P

Hmm, another question related to the first: does this mean that some of the usual magical ways to get rid of evil outsiders (like banishment) don't work so well against them in the game? My own reading was that part of the horror of the Qlippoth in Kabbalism was that they came from a universe before this one, and as such lacked names. Meaning that most Western ritual magic and defenses (which depended on finding the "true name" of something and commanding it) would be <i>utterly useless</i> against a Qlippoth. Depending on the kind of game being played, a nasty outsider who is utterly imune to all the traditional defenses can be very frightening!


DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:

I loved this book.

It's just unfortunate that the longest stat blocks usually end up with shortest shrift in regards to flavour text. It's about the only gripe that I have.

Ok, glad to see I'm not the only one to feel that. I would rather have a 2 page spread if it meant telling me more about a particular creature and/or adding some more unique SA and SQ than trying to fit everything on one page. There were quite a number of monsters that received a very small blurb but were complex enough to require much more than that (the Star Archon definitely comes to mind, but I can pull several others by glancing through the book).


DungeonmasterCal wrote:
Amazon just pushed back their ship date again!!!

Amazon has pushed back everything I've got on order, Bestiary 2, Condition Cards (to March) and Flip Mat City Streets.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Eric Hinkle wrote:
Hmm, another question related to the first: does this mean that some of the usual magical ways to get rid of evil outsiders (like banishment) don't work so well against them in the game? My own reading was that part of the horror of the Qlippoth in Kabbalism was that they came from a universe before this one, and as such lacked names. Meaning that most Western ritual magic and defenses (which depended on finding the "true name" of something and commanding it) would be <i>utterly useless</i> against a Qlippoth. Depending on the kind of game being played, a nasty outsider who is utterly imune to all the traditional defenses can be very frightening!

Nope; despite the fact that qlippoth are truly ancient outsiders, the usual magical methods for banishing them work just as well as on any other outsider. If an outsider is particularly resistant to banishment, it'd be a specific special defensive ability possessed by that outsider.

But being able to banish a creature is kind of what makes an outsider an outsider, so I wouldn't remove this feature from qlippoth.


Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Eric Hinkle wrote:
Hmm, another question related to the first: does this mean that some of the usual magical ways to get rid of evil outsiders (like banishment) don't work so well against them in the game? My own reading was that part of the horror of the Qlippoth in Kabbalism was that they came from a universe before this one, and as such lacked names. Meaning that most Western ritual magic and defenses (which depended on finding the "true name" of something and commanding it) would be <i>utterly useless</i> against a Qlippoth. Depending on the kind of game being played, a nasty outsider who is utterly imune to all the traditional defenses can be very frightening!

The best creature I've ever seen for that is the Shatterer, from the Book of Unremitting Horror (which is d20 Modern, but should convert to Pathfinder fairly easily).

Among its suite of special powers, it can hijack a summoning spell, break barriers designed to hold outsiders, and has special resistance to spells designed to banish or impede them. It's a summoner's worst nightmare.


I will be getting my book soon but I did get to look at a copy at a gaming store and I love the artwork. Also had some time to look at some of the creatures stat blocks. First I would like to say that this is the first time I have seen a monster manual that is at least as good as the first. Second, I love the monsters that can be used as familiars. Third, I like the "playable" races a lot. Fourth, Love the primal dragons and Scylla is just awesome. But of course there are a few nitpicks, mostly about some monster's classification(ex: Scylla as an Aberration instead of Magical beast, Water Orm as M.b. instead of a dragon)nothing major yet. When I get the book(and read it) I will have better idea of what I like and dislike. One question though, are Merrow still just aquatic ogres or are they there own species now?

Dark Archive

Dolgo wrote:
DungeonmasterCal wrote:
Amazon just pushed back their ship date again!!!
Amazon has pushed back everything I've got on order, Bestiary 2, Condition Cards (to March) and Flip Mat City Streets.

That's why I rely on brick-and-mortar stores; I know I'd get my Paizo stuff cheaper from Amazon, but my FLGS can give me a reliable estimation on the date and they e-mail me as soon as the stuff has arrived. And I also want to support my FLGS, even if it costs me around 10-20% more (since the prices are converted directly to euros).


I like the Crystal Dragon but I need a new name for it. I use the psionic gem dragons so it'll just be confusing, since this crystal dragon is no where anything like the psionic crystal dragon. Since there's Brine, Cloud, and Magma. Umbral I assume is basically Pathfinder's version of the Shadow Dragon. Going along the theme of representing different forms of elements, maybe Quartz Dragon or Lucid Dragon? Lucid sounds good.

EDIT: Ah, found one much better, Prism Dragon.

Dark Archive

Asgetrion wrote:
Dolgo wrote:
DungeonmasterCal wrote:
Amazon just pushed back their ship date again!!!
Amazon has pushed back everything I've got on order, Bestiary 2, Condition Cards (to March) and Flip Mat City Streets.
That's why I rely on brick-and-mortar stores; I know I'd get my Paizo stuff cheaper from Amazon, but my FLGS can give me a reliable estimation on the date and they e-mail me as soon as the stuff has arrived. And I also want to support my FLGS, even if it costs me around 10-20% more (since the prices are converted directly to euros).

Ditto, especially supporting my FLGS.


Asgetrion wrote:
Dolgo wrote:
DungeonmasterCal wrote:
Amazon just pushed back their ship date again!!!
Amazon has pushed back everything I've got on order, Bestiary 2, Condition Cards (to March) and Flip Mat City Streets.
That's why I rely on brick-and-mortar stores; I know I'd get my Paizo stuff cheaper from Amazon, but my FLGS can give me a reliable estimation on the date and they e-mail me as soon as the stuff has arrived. And I also want to support my FLGS, even if it costs me around 10-20% more (since the prices are converted directly to euros).

I'm late to Pathfinder and have Amazon's free shipping, so it has been great to use to catch up with core books and older items. This makes getting it straight from paizo looking better though.

Dark Archive

Dolgo wrote:
Asgetrion wrote:
Dolgo wrote:
DungeonmasterCal wrote:
Amazon just pushed back their ship date again!!!
Amazon has pushed back everything I've got on order, Bestiary 2, Condition Cards (to March) and Flip Mat City Streets.
That's why I rely on brick-and-mortar stores; I know I'd get my Paizo stuff cheaper from Amazon, but my FLGS can give me a reliable estimation on the date and they e-mail me as soon as the stuff has arrived. And I also want to support my FLGS, even if it costs me around 10-20% more (since the prices are converted directly to euros).
I'm late to Pathfinder and have Amazon's free shipping, so it has been great to use to catch up with core books and older items. This makes getting it straight from paizo looking better though.

Yeah, free shipping is great; sadly, that's not an option for us here in Europe (although even if it were, I would probably still want to support my FLGS).


DungeonmasterCal wrote:
Amazon just pushed back their ship date again!!!

Why do they do that???

Sovereign Court

RJGrady wrote:
DungeonmasterCal wrote:
Amazon just pushed back their ship date again!!!
Why do they do that???

Because you touch yourself.


I finally was able to pick-up a copy yesterday (slow arrival to Canada it seems), and I can't get enough of it! I want to use everything in my campaign, whether a creature fits or not. I do have a quick inquiry though.

I noticed that the write-up for some of creatures that can be taken as Improved Familiars gives the prerequisites (ex. Brownie), but some don't (ex. Silvanshee). It' shouldn't be difficult to figure out myself, but I was just curious what you guys thought. The one creature that surprised me the most in this manner was the badger, and it not have information on being either a familiar or an animal companion.

All-in-all, I am really enjoying the book and can't wait for the Inner Sea World Guide to come out next. Keep-up the good work guys!

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Plato's Nephew wrote:

I finally was able to pick-up a copy yesterday (slow arrival to Canada it seems), and I can't get enough of it! I want to use everything in my campaign, whether a creature fits or not. I do have a quick inquiry though.

I noticed that the write-up for some of creatures that can be taken as Improved Familiars gives the prerequisites (ex. Brownie), but some don't (ex. Silvanshee). It' shouldn't be difficult to figure out myself, but I was just curious what you guys thought. The one creature that surprised me the most in this manner was the badger, and it not have information on being either a familiar or an animal companion.

All-in-all, I am really enjoying the book and can't wait for the Inner Sea World Guide to come out next. Keep-up the good work guys!

The sivanshee was indeed intended to be a familiar option. There SHOULD be a CR 2 outsider for every alignment now for spellcasters who took the Improved Familiar feat.


James Jacobs wrote:


The sivanshee was indeed intended to be a familiar option. There SHOULD be a CR 2 outsider for every alignment now for spellcasters who took the Improved Familiar feat.

What about Lawful Good? Archons don't seem to offer a familiar option, unless Lantern Archons were slipped in somewhere and I didn't notice. They're not listed under improved familiar or in the Bestiary.

Sovereign Court

Plato's Nephew wrote:

The one creature that surprised me the most in this manner was the badger, and it not have information on being either a familiar or an animal companion.

That is criminal! If any animal is associated with gnomish society, it is the loyal badger! I hope we see this oversight rectified so that our Gnomish wizards and Gnomish rangers can have the familiars and companions they richly deserve. This bodes ill for the day when we'll see the iconic gnomish riding goat available for our Gnomish cavaliers and Gnomish Paladins.


Now I wish sorcerers could get familiars, not just arcane and I think serpantine, but all bloodlines and bards too.


Dragon78 wrote:
Now I wish sorcerers could get familiars, not just arcane and I think serpantine, but all bloodlines and bards too.

Obtain Familiar feat from Complete Arcane will solve that issue.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Eildath wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:


The sivanshee was indeed intended to be a familiar option. There SHOULD be a CR 2 outsider for every alignment now for spellcasters who took the Improved Familiar feat.

What about Lawful Good? Archons don't seem to offer a familiar option, unless Lantern Archons were slipped in somewhere and I didn't notice. They're not listed under improved familiar or in the Bestiary.

Lawful Good got left out, it appears... I suspect because when we were looking at the list of CR 2 outsiders, the lantern archon already exists. I'm not sure why it's not an option for an improved familiar, in fact. Probably because it can teleport? (shrug)

Anyway... I guess a new LG familiar option is something we can look forward to in Bestiary 3?

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Seebo Marnig wrote:
Plato's Nephew wrote:

The one creature that surprised me the most in this manner was the badger, and it not have information on being either a familiar or an animal companion.

That is criminal! If any animal is associated with gnomish society, it is the loyal badger! I hope we see this oversight rectified so that our Gnomish wizards and Gnomish rangers can have the familiars and companions they richly deserve. This bodes ill for the day when we'll see the iconic gnomish riding goat available for our Gnomish cavaliers and Gnomish Paladins.

See page 53 of the Pathfinder Core rulebook. Badgers have been animal companions from day one in Pathfinder, so there was no need to add this material into Bestiary 2.


Yeah but the feat/alternate class ability to get a familiar needs to be for pathfinder not 3.5.


James Jacobs wrote:
See page 53 of the Pathfinder Core rulebook. Badgers have been animal companions from day one in Pathfinder, so there was no need to add this material into Bestiary 2.

James is indeed correct (of course). This should also rectify complaints that anyone may have had that the noble badger was missing from the "Familiars" entry in the first Bestiary. That being said, so where are the ring-tailed lemurs now James, huh? Huh? (Kidding!)

Liberty's Edge

I'm trying to get this book through a book store (both online and through the local store) and they are saying it's on back order with no info when it will be available?

I'm specifically trying to get it through Barnes and Noble since I got a gift card for my birthday.

Is this really on back order? Any ETA on when it will be back in stock?

Thanks!!!


Marc Radle wrote:

I'm trying to get this book through a book store (both online and through the local store) and they are saying it's on back order with no info when it will be available?

I'm specifically trying to get it through Barnes and Noble since I got a gift card for my birthday.

Is this really on back order? Any ETA on when it will be back in stock?

Thanks!!!

I had the same thing happen last year with the GameMastery Guide. They kept me hanging until I went into a store and dealt with the poor customer service person who had to call their distributor and be told what turned out to be a lie, essentially. Back order turned out to mean the distributor either didn't order enough or none at all. I ended up just getting the pdf of the Guide.

This time, with the Bestiary 2, I am ordering from the Paizo folks directly. Barnes and Noble's buyers appear to have little clue what is actually going on in the world of roleplaying games in general, as evidenced by the shelves stuffed full of game books by a certain company and next to none on the shelves by Paizo and most other companies.


And I just missed the window of time to edit my post.

I am sorry Marc to be the bearer of bad news. I hope I am wrong in your case. I don't have anything personally against Barnes and Noble. I love the stores in my area, full of nice helpful people. I am severely disappointed in the buyers and their distributors, however.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Marc Radle wrote:

I'm trying to get this book through a book store (both online and through the local store) and they are saying it's on back order with no info when it will be available?

I'm specifically trying to get it through Barnes and Noble since I got a gift card for my birthday.

Is this really on back order? Any ETA on when it will be back in stock?

Thanks!!!

I'm not aware of a legitimate reason why it would take them "1-2 weeks" like the site says, or, for that matter, why it's not in stock now. We'll see what we can do, but we don't have a lot of control over those things here...

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Vic Wertz wrote:
I'm not aware of a legitimate reason why it would take them "1-2 weeks" like the site says, or, for that matter, why it's not in stock now. We'll see what we can do, but we don't have a lot of control over those things here...

Turns out Erik was already aware of this. There was a shipping problem between B&N and their distributor; we'll do what we can to help both parties get it ironed out as quickly as possible.

Dark Archive

I had a similar problem with the APG today, ordered last week from UK book seller using Christmas Vouchers, and it was on "Usually ships in 1-2 days" still hadn't shipped today, they claimed no stock, and don't know when to expect more, then 2 hours after I tweet whining about it, it miraculously ships.....

Odd, but I'm happy. ;)

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Vic Wertz wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
I'm not aware of a legitimate reason why it would take them "1-2 weeks" like the site says, or, for that matter, why it's not in stock now. We'll see what we can do, but we don't have a lot of control over those things here...
Turns out Erik was already aware of this. There was a shipping problem between B&N and their distributor; we'll do what we can to help both parties get it ironed out as quickly as possible.

Ok... Erik was mistaken. The shipping problem was with Amazon, not Barnes & Noble.

B&N doesn't have stock because they never finalized their Bestiary 2 order with our book trade distributor. We're seeing what we can do about that.


Vic Wertz wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
I'm not aware of a legitimate reason why it would take them "1-2 weeks" like the site says, or, for that matter, why it's not in stock now. We'll see what we can do, but we don't have a lot of control over those things here...
Turns out Erik was already aware of this. There was a shipping problem between B&N and their distributor; we'll do what we can to help both parties get it ironed out as quickly as possible.

Ok... Erik was mistaken. The shipping problem was with Amazon, not Barnes & Noble.

B&N doesn't have stock because they never finalized their Bestiary 2 order with our book trade distributor. We're seeing what we can do about that.

You see, this is why (one of many reasons) Paizo is awesome. I wish I had mentioned my problem with getting the GameMastery Guide back last June. It didn't even occur to me to post about it. I assumed it was their fault and there was nothing Paizo could do about it.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Dark Sasha wrote:
You see, this is why (one of many reasons) Paizo is awesome. I wish I had mentioned my problem with getting the GameMastery Guide back last June. It didn't even occur to me to post about it. I assumed it was their fault and there was nothing Paizo could do about it.

Whenever there's a store that really should have our books but doesn't, and bringing it to their attention doesn't solve it, feel free to bring it to our attention. We can't force people to buy stuff, but we can at least see if there are problems in the channel we can help solve.

Dark Archive

WOO-HOO! My FLGS has notified me that my copy has finally arrived! Sweet Asmodeus, once again You have answered my fervent prayers! I'm so happy that I could start dancing... nekkid!

Liberty's Edge

Vic Wertz wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
I'm not aware of a legitimate reason why it would take them "1-2 weeks" like the site says, or, for that matter, why it's not in stock now. We'll see what we can do, but we don't have a lot of control over those things here...
Turns out Erik was already aware of this. There was a shipping problem between B&N and their distributor; we'll do what we can to help both parties get it ironed out as quickly as possible.

Ok... Erik was mistaken. The shipping problem was with Amazon, not Barnes & Noble.

B&N doesn't have stock because they never finalized their Bestiary 2 order with our book trade distributor. We're seeing what we can do about that.

Thanks Vic!

I know it's only been a day (more or less) but is there any update on this?

I'm just trying to figure out if I should wait a couple more days and still use my BN gift card or just say the heck with it and order the book from Paizo now and use the BN card for something else.

Thanks!

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Marc Radle wrote:

I know it's only been a day (more or less) but is there any update on this?

I'm just trying to figure out if I should wait a couple more days and still use my BN gift card or just say the heck with it and order the book from Paizo now and use the BN card for something else.

Thanks!

No news, but even if they finalized their order today, I'm sure it'd still take at least a few days for it to reach one of their warehouses.


Do the Pathfinder-powers-that-be have plans to expand the Summon Monster/Nature's Ally lists to include creatures from the Bestiary 2?

Liberty's Edge

Paizo Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Companion, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber
SelfishHedonist wrote:
Do the Pathfinder-powers-that-be have plans to expand the Summon Monster/Nature's Ally lists to include creatures from the Bestiary 2?

Those powers have said No.

Liberty's Edge

Can someone tell me if the Graveknight made it into the Bestiary 2???

Contributor

Marc Radle wrote:
Can someone tell me if the Graveknight made it into the Bestiary 2???

It did not.

Dark Archive

Liz Courts wrote:
Marc Radle wrote:
Can someone tell me if the Graveknight made it into the Bestiary 2???
It did not.

It should definitely be in Bestiary 3, because the Graveknight is the best version of this classic monster!

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Here's to hoping that Graveknight is one of the 9 monsters in the new Campaign Setting book ...

Dark Archive

I love the book, but here are a couple of questions about the crawling hand:

1) Shouldn't its size be Tiny instead of Diminutive?
2) Is the damage for its slam attack truly supposed to be '1d1+1'? Or is this a typo? I would get 1d2+1 or 1d4+1, but now it's awfully low, even for a 1/2 CR monster.

Otherwise it's a really nice monster, but when I compare it to the "original" (3.5 crawling claw) these changes seem weird to me (unless they're errors?).

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Asgetrion wrote:
Liz Courts wrote:
Marc Radle wrote:
Can someone tell me if the Graveknight made it into the Bestiary 2???
It did not.
It should definitely be in Bestiary 3, because the Graveknight is the best version of this classic monster!

Graveknight won't be in the Inner Sea World Guide.

If and when we do a Bestiary 3, it's probably going to be in there though. In fact, chances of us doing something with graveknights even earlier than that? 100%.

Undead Revisited will have 6 pages of graveknight later this year.

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