Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Bestiary 2 (OGL)

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Go beyond goblins with an army of fantasy's most fearsome foes! Bestiary 2 presents hundreds of different creatures for use in the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game. Within this collection of creatures you'll find undead dragons and mischievous gremlins, shrieking banshees and unstoppable titans, the infamous jabberwock, and so much more! Yet not all these monsters need to be foes, as new breeds of otherworldly guardians, living shadows, and vampires all might take up adventure's call. In addition, new rules for customizing and advancing monsters and an expanded glossary of creature abilities ensure that you'll be prepared to challenge your heroes wherever adventure takes them!

The Pathfinder RPG Bestiary 2 is the second indispensable volume of monsters for use with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game and serves as a companion to the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook and Pathfinder RPG Bestiary. This imaginative tabletop game builds upon more than 10 years of system development and an Open Playtest featuring more than 50,000 gamers to create a cutting-edge RPG experience that brings the all-time best-selling set of fantasy rules into the new millennium.

The 320-page Pathfinder RPG Bestiary 2 includes:

  • More than 300 different monsters
  • Creatures both new and familiar, drawing upon the best-known beasts of legend, literature, and Pathfinder RPG adventures
  • Challenges for any adventure and every level of play
  • Hosts of new templates and variants, including simple templates for on-the-fly creature customization
  • Numerous lists of monsters to aid in navigation, including lists by Challenge Rating, monster type, and habitat
  • New rules for creating and running high-level menaces
  • Expanded universal monster rules to simplify special attacks, defenses, and qualities
  • New familiars, animal companions, and other allies
  • ... and much, much more!

ISBN-13: 978-1-60125-268-5

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My favorite book from Paizo.

5/5

This book so far has been my favorite purchase of ALL of my RPG books.
I don't know if I can explain the fervor I have for this book but I will try.

So first of all there is the cover, the ever feared Jabberwock(y) of Lewis Carroll legend. Having a tough SOB (CR23) on the cover is the best way to start things off I think. Lets me know im in for a ride with this book.

While the first Bestiary was the standard array of Monsters we have all come to know and love through years of them being reprinted for games the Bestiary 2 is where Paizo took off on its own with a whole slew of new monster and just general new ideas for monsters. A handful of new extraplanar monsters of various alignments were added such as The Aeons, Qlippoths and Daemons all have decently written history and offer a lot of inspiration for using them in games.

The two things I love best about this book are as follows.
One: New dragons, and not just more "coloured or metal" dragons, but a new type of dragon altogether: Primal Dragons. These bad boys have probably the best art in the whole book (magma, im looking at you) and they make for a nice change from the everyday.

Two: The art, while the art in Bestiary 1 is GOOD, its not near as sharp, crisp, and detailed as this book. The colours, the textures, the everything, all done very well. You will not be disappointed when looking through this book.


Great buy!

5/5

I really enjoyed the artwork and the monsters presented in this book, especially the Qlippoth! Must have for your pathfinder library!


Back to the Golden Age

5/5

Looking through the PDF of Bestiary 2, I find myself remembering the days in the 1980s when I'd sit in the back of the mall bookstore and leaf through the various gaming tomes I couldn't possibly buy all of.

Crystal Dragons, Aeons, and several others in this book remind of that golden era, when DMs had such a wide variety of unusual (and often new-age-y) creatures at their disposals, they couldn't possibly ever use them all.

Sure, some of the creatures are a little odd, but on the other hand, the vast variety will lead to some adventurer groups with a far different list of encountered monsters than the norm.

I personally can't wait to spring the Dullahan (aka Headless Horseman) and Animate Dream on my party!


Something does not add up...

3/5

Not as extensive as the first, yet the same price...

I do not mind the creatures in this book, but it does get less use than my other bestiary. However it still has the same problem as the first also. The use of generic rules for a creature type. For an actual hardcover book to be useful in a game (for creatures) you MUST be able to have all rules for the creature on the one page. The use of rules based on a type of creature that you need to leave the creatures page to reference is irritating and a waste of in game time.

Please fix this problem. I understand that constructs all have similarities but I need the rules on each constructs page to reference. Not have to skip to the end of the book to see if they have something relevant when they need it.


Cautiously recommended

4/5

I find some of the artwork choices dubious and some of the stat-blocks clearly don't hold up under close examination.
Also only about a third of the creature content is of current use/interest to me.

BUT, all that said, in a book this size at this price that third of content is the right side of value for money for me, and there's enough variety here in the creatures that I don't personally have much time for that I'm certain most of them will appeal to a fair portion of the audience amongst other readers. This is a follow-up bestiary - and like most such works it faces the challenge that most of the decent staples of fantasy have already been covered in an earlier work, inviting the editors to try and diversify to give everyone a bit of what they might want...

Warts and all this is a pretty spiffing book, and I would cautiously recommend it.
I give it a rating of four stars.


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James Jacobs wrote:
Razz wrote:
The meladaemon (I think it was that one), seems very similiar to the arcanadaemon/arcanaloth. Did the meladaemon replace the arcanaloth? I do recall Todd saying the two were actually different, despite physical similiarities. I think he was the one that wrote up the meladaemon?
The arcanaloth is not open content—it's very much owned lock, stock, and barrel by Wizards of the Coast. The meladaemon is not a "replacement" for it—they do very different things, despite the fact that they look somewhat similar. The meladaemon is something of a jackal humanoid, playing off the famine theme of that creature and the fact that a jackal is a scavenger who might do quite well in the onset of a famine since there's a lot of starved dead things to eat... at least for a while...

Yep. As James said, they're different critters conceptually, with the jackal appearance being the only thing really in common. And the 'loth is a furry, whereas the daemon's body is a soupy, black syrupy mixture of organs, virus lysed flesh, mucus, blood, and bile stretched over a skeleton.

The outward appearance of those guys was influenced by a unique 'loth named Trelmarixian in my home game (this guy). The pathfinder meladaemons are exceedingly distinct in what they represent and how they do it versus the AD&D arcanaloth, and explicitly so because of the non-open content thing with the arcanaloth. I love 'em to death, but they're a no no. You can however have things outwardly influenced by the jello 'loth from my home campaign (but to clarify again, the Pathfinder Trelmarixian is himself quite different in history, personality, and even in appearance in some ways from the one in my home campaign).

Silver Crusade

Just wondering: What are the chances of the couerl and deepcrow making it into Bestiary 3 if it comes about?

"Classic" feeling monster both old and new, those are.

Dark Archive

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Mikaze wrote:

Just wondering: What are the chances of the couerl and deepcrow making it into Bestiary 3 if it comes about?

"Classic" feeling monster both old and new, those are.

I would think just about zero, given that both of them are NOT open content, and were only published in AP bestiaries with special permission from the source material rights holders.

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Todd Stewart wrote:


Just curious, but which powers did you think fit, or didn't fit the meladaemon's theme?

The meladaemon in "Beyond the Vault of Souls" felt more like it was a continuation of the leukodaemon's disease control powers more than having self-standing famine abilities. The slimy doom thing for one. The idea of cancer as famine-related, though, is pure class, what with the person essentially eating themselves to death by way of misbehaving cells.


I have a copy of the 3.0 version of ToH and don't see how to get my paws on a copy of the revised version. As long as you have the permission to do so, please keep them coming. As a GM I can never have too many monsters especially quality monsters I can use again and again. Heck there are stuff I want to use from the Misfit book in a given campaign, especially the wolf-in-sheep's-clothing, the flumphs, the delvers, the tojinda and the rays. The new art on the delver and the tojinda are vast improvements over what was done in the 3E Monster Manuals. You mde the evil tree stump spooky enough to creep me out and made me want to spring this on my players. And the flumphs have always been lovable losers in my eyes but now they have a greater purpose and a real reason to interact with PCs.

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Mikaze wrote:

Just wondering: What are the chances of the couerl and deepcrow making it into Bestiary 3 if it comes about?

"Classic" feeling monster both old and new, those are.

Absolutely zero.

Both of those monsters are pretty much the only two rules elements we've done in Pathfinder that are NOT open content; we got special permission from the monsters' creators to do stats for them as a one-time deal.

Liberty's Edge

FenrysStar wrote:
I have a copy of the 3.0 version of ToH and don't see how to get my paws on a copy of the revised version.

The Revised ToH was released exclusively as a PDF book. You can still find it in any webstore where D20 PDFs are still being sold.

I do remember a discussion about a year ago about Tome of Horrors being released for Pathfinder RPG, but I don't think anything came out of it.

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Brutal Ben wrote:
FenrysStar wrote:
I have a copy of the 3.0 version of ToH and don't see how to get my paws on a copy of the revised version.

The Revised ToH was released exclusively as a PDF book. You can still find it in any webstore where D20 PDFs are still being sold.

I do remember a discussion about a year ago about Tome of Horrors being released for Pathfinder RPG, but I don't think anything came out of it.

I think it's a shame... it's one of the books I regret not having bought, and I'm not very keen on purchasing PDFs. Anyway, I think I would not be the only one who'd like to see ToH monsters "upgraded" and revised to Pathfinder rules.

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Asgetrion wrote:
Anyway, I think I would not be the only one who'd like to see ToH monsters "upgraded" and revised to Pathfinder rules.

There's a lot of people who want updated ToH stats. Another popular one is the "Book of Fiends" which was co-written and illustrated by a very well known author!


Auxmaulous wrote:
I wonder if we'll every see the Thorny, the vegypygmy’s hunting dog? Its open content, yet was omitted in the Bestiary write up for the pygmy.

Here you are.

Dark Archive

Well, I did it. I went to my FLGS and pre-ordered Bestiary 2. So are they in the warehouse yet? :-)


I also much prefer physical books to PDfs so this is a treat for me when anything that got revised is put out in a book that I can buy and hold in my hands.

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Brutal Ben wrote:
Asgetrion wrote:
Anyway, I think I would not be the only one who'd like to see ToH monsters "upgraded" and revised to Pathfinder rules.
There's a lot of people who want updated ToH stats. Another popular one is the "Book of Fiends" which was co-written and illustrated by a very well known author!

Ah, that one... a marvelous tome used by many Chelaxians for childrens' bedtime stories! ;)


Oh, PDF out on 29th?! Just in time for my drunken D&D session for my buddies when I visit NY! :D


I must say, I'm enjoying these PF volumes.


FenrysStar wrote:
I also much prefer physical books to PDfs so this is a treat for me when anything that got revised is put out in a book that I can buy and hold in my hands.

I agree, especially since I prefer to keep the laptops away from the gaming table. They are an ever present temptation to players to check email or the Paizo messageboards while a game is in progress.

Dark Archive

Vic, do you have any idea when this wonderful book will reach our frozen shores here in Finland?

EDIT: Dammit, staring at that image (poster) makes me want this book so badly that I feel like crying; maybe I should sacrifice a photo of SKR to Asmodeus, and pray for a swift delivery? ;)


Gurr....I preordered this back in August from Amazon, It seemed like every two weeks, I got another email Telling me that it had been delayed a bit more. on the 1st of this month, i got an email saying it was coming out on the 14th, then, three days before that, it gets moved to the 29th.

Stop playing games with my heart Paizo!!!

Silver Crusade

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Elias Alexander wrote:

Gurr....I preordered this back in August from Amazon, It seemed like every two weeks, I got another email Telling me that it had been delayed a bit more. on the 1st of this month, i got an email saying it was coming out on the 14th, then, three days before that, it gets moved to the 29th.

Stop playing games with my heart Paizo!!!

That's what you get for preordering from Amazon. Paizo has no influence on their release dates, which are based as much on actual book release as they are on rat migrations in Botswana.

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Gorbacz wrote:
That's what you get for preordering from Amazon. Paizo has no influence on their release dates, which are based as much on actual book release as they are on rat migrations in Botswana.

Thats what the subscriptions are for. A subscription to the Adventure Paths combined with a Pathfinder RPG subscription gets you this book for $33.99 with a free PDF copy. The AP are reasonably priced at $13.99 when subscribed to, and you get about 5 new monsters with every release that you can print out and store in a Bestiary Binder.

Liberty's Edge

Whats the probability of a 12/13 shipment date for subscribers?


Brutal Ben wrote:
Whats the probability of a 12/13 shipment date for subscribers?

I hope and pray it will ship today. This is getting bundled with AP #40 for me and I personally can't wait to get my paws on some flying monkeys!

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FenrysStar wrote:
Brutal Ben wrote:
Whats the probability of a 12/13 shipment date for subscribers?
I hope and pray it will ship today. This is getting bundled with AP #40 for me and I personally can't wait to get my paws on some flying monkeys!

Definately. I hope to be in the first batch so I can burn a new DVD for work. Been holding off buring Psionics Unleased to DVD for just that reason, best to do them all at once.

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Matthew Morris wrote:
Definately. I hope to be in the first batch so I can burn a new DVD for work. Been holding off buring Psionics Unleased to DVD for just that reason, best to do them all at once.

DVD? Why not a USB Thumb Drive?

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Brutal Ben wrote:
Matthew Morris wrote:
Definately. I hope to be in the first batch so I can burn a new DVD for work. Been holding off buring Psionics Unleased to DVD for just that reason, best to do them all at once.
DVD? Why not a USB Thumb Drive?

Security, USB ports are locked down. And our computers have DVD Roms, not burners.

(Yes, our security procedures are better than the US Governments, Pvt. Manning)

Grand Lodge

Most companies will not allow any USB device to be plugged in to one of their computers. If one is plugged in to one of them it is usually recorded/reported and it is usually an offense that is grounds for termination on the spot.
So DvD is the way to go :)


I just got an email saying payment was successfully reprocesed. So it should be shipped to me soon. Such a wonderful present for my Yuletime celebrations.

Liberty's Edge

I feel like such a geek waiting for this like I am.

Oh, well....

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FenrysStar wrote:
I just got an email saying payment was successfully reprocesed. So it should be shipped to me soon. Such a wonderful present for my Yuletime celebrations.

Har har, you think so?!? I've sent my imp squad to intercept and steal your shipment!


Received email at 3:21 CST that order will be shipped by Thursday December 16, 2010.

EDIT: done downloaded and already reading.

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Downloading now. Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!


My order is still pending, probably because I didn't subscribe until Nov. 22, looking forward to reading through this book later though, from the lists and poster it looks like there will be lots and lots of interesting monsters to throw at my players.


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion, Lost Omens Subscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber

Just got done skimming the PDF for the one thing I was super excited for, and then cried a little inside. Out of curiousity why are there not rules for the Hippogriff as an animal companion. The Sable Company wants to know! More seriously though I'm sure I can finagle it to work as one was just really excited to see it written up.

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Robert Jordan wrote:
Just got done skimming the PDF for the one thing I was super excited for, and then cried a little inside. Out of curiousity why are there not rules for the Hippogriff as an animal companion. The Sable Company wants to know! More seriously though I'm sure I can finagle it to work as one was just really excited to see it written up.

Hippogriffs are magical beasts, not animals, would be my first guess. :)


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Oh I'm well aware, but in Korvosa there's the Sable Company, and the feat Sable Company Marine that lets you have a hippogriff as an animal companion. I was just hoping to see advancement for them or something, I can always just use the standard animal companion table and just make them be large size all the time and leave it at that.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

To answer a couple of questions from the last few days:

We are currently processing subscriber orders and preorders; it'll take a few days to get through them all. The official retail release date is December 29, so any retailer who has it before that date is supposed to hold it until then.

Shipments have already gone out to our distributors, including international and book trade distributors, but we have no control over (or insight into) the shipping to individual retailers (including Amazon) from those distributors.

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Vic Wertz wrote:
The official retail release date is December 29, so any retailer who has it before that date is supposed to hold it until then.

So I will get mine on January 9th. On account of me being out of town from December 20th until January 8th.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

I have the PDF !

Qlippoths !

Modrons ! (ok ... Modron-like inevitable)

Daemons !

Ravener ! (Paizo's dracolich)

Hippogriff !

Sceaduinar !

Jyoti !

New protean !

Aeons !

The crowd goes wild !

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Holy shmoozle, they did it and Pathfinderized Book of Fiends stuff. Chernobue, I am looking at you.

Liberty's Edge

I didn't get mine yet. :-(

I guess I have to wait in line another day.

Dark Archive

I have to say the art for the brownie is really fing creepy.

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Dark_Mistress wrote:
I have to say the art for the brownie is really fing creepy.

Yes...it's also somewhat...familiar...

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Robert Jordan wrote:
Oh I'm well aware, but in Korvosa there's the Sable Company, and the feat Sable Company Marine that lets you have a hippogriff as an animal companion. I was just hoping to see advancement for them or something, I can always just use the standard animal companion table and just make them be large size all the time and leave it at that.

That's specific world flavor, and as such has no place in a Bestiary, unfortunately. That said... presenting animal companion type stats and rules for the Sable Company's hippogriffs would make a fun blog post... hmmmmm...

Paizo Employee Managing Developer

The hippogriff! Nooo, not the hippogriff!

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I liked the section on Qlippoth. I am mostly right now looking at the pictures in the PDF and stopping to read some monsters here and there. The new dragons where neat, as was honestly most of the monsters. :)


Alright, my copy's downloaded and I'm reading through it now. So far what I've seen is great, I like all the different Daemons especially, and love how many outsiders are in this book.


Are we going to have a preview soon?

I would like to have a preview soon! (;

The Exchange

I've only had time for a brief look through, but I like what I've seen so far.

A couple things I'd like to have seen:
1. A small table detailing the creatures that can be used as familiars (with Improved Familiar or otherwise)
2. A list of which new creatures can be summoned via the various Summon spells
3. More simple templates...I've always got Green Ronin's Advanced Bestiary, but boy howdy do I love me some templates.

Otherwise...very well done. Can't wait to give it a more thorough look.


I must admit I was a bit disappointed on how the PDF was set up. I would of liked it to be like the first Bestiary with everything linked to the page/creature.

Besides that one downfall I must admit this is an awesome addition to the Bestiary and I personally am looking forward to using some of these new monsters.

Few of my favorites:
Dragon Horse
Dhampir
Attic Whisperer
Banshee
Hippocampus
Leprechaun
Poltergeist
Like what they did with serpent folk
And I like the new Dragons

Even with that one downfall I mentioned for the PDF it is still well worth the price. For the creatures above as well as the abundance of others in this book, the art work is wonderful, the constructs are awesome, and the templates for other possible character races makes this one of the best books out there.

Congrats to Vic and the crew for doing it once again, I can't wait to get my hardbound copy. Keep up the great work.


Wow, ok, so those of you that have the PDF, just one question --- the 2 new inevitables are what exactly? Marut, Zelekhut, and Kolaryut are inevitabilties of justice, oaths, and death. What's the theme of the 2 new ones? (personally hoping they don't overlap WotC's 3 other news ones, the inevitables of time, wasting, and the one that prevents mortals from acquiring divinity)

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