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Another cover I just LOVE!
When I got the art in my inbox, I saw it didn't have one of the iconics in the scene, so wondered if it was actually for the fiction line. Maybe a repackaging of Andre Norton's work.
I'm intrigued how you'll go about creating a high-level adventure that takes into account all the possible PC abilities (especially now the APG material is being thrown into the mix!).

The_Minstrel_Wyrm |

Well... I just got my notification email, so hopefully I'll have this in the next 2 weeks (not that that's a deal breaker mind you) it's just as much as I'd like to GM this for my high level group, I've more or less promised no more "side treks" or delaying tactics, and am actually trying to wrap up our high level Mwangi Expanse campaign. But, a suggestion from one of my players... I'm doing a "series" of daisy-chain adventures as they are questing to
and after the little quest they are on now, heading up North will be their destination to begin the first part of their quest.
Heh heh... sorry for all the spoiler tags... it's taken me a while to "learn" how to use them... and now that I know how... I try not to "spoil" AP, or module plots for folks who might be randomly reading posts on the boards.
I am really looking forward to this module.
Dean

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Just finished a quick skim through of this module and I love it. I really appreciate the high level love, and the fact that I can see this to be a very difficult module to get through without death (what else can you expect from Vaughn?). As for the art, I think the overall presentation of the entire module is A+. The maps were perfect, the art was awesome, and the layout was great.
I also have to point out that the art for Ilivorr Karanasi was absolutely amazing. This really is making me look forward to Bestiary II (Wendigo!) and Winter Witch.

Robert Miller 55 |

Cover and subject matter aside, I have never seen anything by Vaughan that is not absolutely awesome. I have every expectation that this will be equal to all of Vaughan's past exceptional work.
If I am not confusing names, I hope you have bought into his Tsar Rising adventure from Frog God Games that is coming out. The PDF's have proven it is going to be great/awesome too.
I am sick and on meds right now, so my mind could definitely have him confused with whatever other Paizo author wrote Tsar.

Robert Miller 55 |

Indeed, this is the same Greg A. Vaughan who wrote the Slumbering Tsar, or perhaps his clone. Which would go a long way in explaining how he is able to write so many excellent modules so quickly.
As I understand it he wrote Slumbering Tsar many years ago and is just now having to rewrite it from pure 3E to Pathfinder rules. I would assume he is also doing some rewriting and add ons, he does have a number of years of thought and learning to add to it, but by and large it was written many years ago. Like about a year before 4E was announced.
So as prolific as he is able to be, this explains that he is not super prolific.

Kyle Baird |

Just finished a quick skim through of this module and I love it. I really appreciate the high level love, and the fact that I can see this to be a very difficult module to get through without death (what else can you expect from Vaughn?). As for the art, I think the overall presentation of the entire module is A+. The maps were perfect, the art was awesome, and the layout was great.
I also have to point out that the art for Ilivorr Karanasi was absolutely amazing. This really is making me look forward to Bestiary II (Wendigo!) and Winter Witch.
My exact thoughts. Except mine are better. There can be only one Kyle.

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I too love Greg Vaughan's work... I actually just used an adventure he wrote for Dungeon in 05' or 06'. When it comes to premade adventures I will run pretty much everything he does... I Can't wait for this high level adventure! When I saw it was a level 17th I was like "I should probably get that." Then I saw who the author was and my wife was asking me "Why do you need the credit card again?"

Generic Villain |
If we get the Stats for Baba Yaga it will probably be int he next module fore people of 20th level :)
As much as I'd like to see the Witch Queen statted out, that won't be happening for a looong time. Baba Yaga is clearly epic level (above 20th), and until Paizo covers those rules, Baba Yaga will continue to be an ominous mystery.
And alas, even after we do get epic rules Paizo-style, there's no telling when (or even if) they'll stat her up.

The_Minstrel_Wyrm |

Interesting news... (well for me anyway) one of my players has indicated interest in playing through this module, citing some very good and convincing reasons...
1)Our group likely won't achieve 17th level for some time (again).
2)The group is already within Irrisen anyway...
So... it looks like I WILL have the opportunity to run my Monday night group through this one.
And from what I've seen with this module... oh MAN... this is gonna be SWEET!
Greg Vaughn... you write-up a great high-level adventure... I must say.
Dean; The_Minstrel_Wyrm

The_Minstrel_Wyrm |

Out of curiosity...
Is anyone else thinking the identity of Baba Yaga's rebellious daughter is who I think they're implying it is??
;-D
Cheers, JohnH / Wanda
Oh My Gosh... until you said that, and I thought about the rebellious daughter's name (provided in the module)... WOW... yeah, yeah I think that's EXACTLY who it is.
If that's who "we" think it is. ;)
Dean

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Still fully digesting this one.
I have to note that it is easily the most gnarly adventure I've ever read.
Wanda V'orcus wrote:Out of curiosity...
Is anyone else thinking the identity of Baba Yaga's rebellious daughter is who I think they're implying it is??
;-D
Cheers, JohnH / Wanda
Oh My Gosh... until you said that, and I thought about the rebellious daughter's name (provided in the module)... WOW... yeah, yeah I think that's EXACTLY who it is.
** spoiler omitted **
If that's who "we" think it is. ;)
Dean
i'mokaywiththis.jpg
I love that notion. The Golarion-verse is part of the larger Planescapey multiverse in my games, so that works out perfectly.

The_Minstrel_Wyrm |

@Mikaze... LOL "gnarly". :) Of course I know why you said that, but it's still funny.
By-the-way... "i'mokaywiththis.jpg" doesn't seem to "do" anything... i.e. it's not "clickable".
Oddly enough... I have a feeling what the jpg might be. :)
(Would it happen to look a lot like a certain cookie making Pazioian's avatar?)
Dean; The_Minstrel_Wyrm

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By-the-way... "i'mokaywiththis.jpg" doesn't seem to "do" anything... i.e. it's not "clickable".
Oddly enough... I have a feeling what the jpg might be. :)
(Would it happen to look a lot like a certain cookie making Pazioian's avatar?)
Dean; The_Minstrel_Wyrm
Oops, sorry. It's just a lazy unlinked reference to a popular image meme, meant to signify a moment of consideration ending with satisfaction with the results. ;)

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I've got to ask, who is that on the front cover? I'm assuming the giant is Kostchtchie what with him not looking like any of the giants described in the adventure. The woman, however, has got be a little stumped. I'm thinking it could be Tashanna or Elvanna. The only thing that doesn't fit is that Kostchtchie doesn't appear to have a beef with Elvanna or Tashanna (beyond the hatred of everything in existence that Kostchtchie always has). If anything the Witchwar Legacy backstory points to it being Baba Yaga more than anything else. And if that's Baba Yaga...well.....damn! Really, I was just curious if they were anything more than a badass witch and a badass giant. So does anyone know?

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Wanda V'orcus wrote:Out of curiosity...
Is anyone else thinking the identity of Baba Yaga's rebellious daughter is who I think they're implying it is??
;-D
Cheers, JohnH / Wanda
Oh My Gosh... until you said that, and I thought about the rebellious daughter's name (provided in the module)... WOW... yeah, yeah I think that's EXACTLY who it is.
** spoiler omitted **
If that's who "we" think it is. ;)
Dean
It helps that according to the adventure:
That sounds an awful lot like the beginnings of another well known witch of awesomeness we know about.

The_Minstrel_Wyrm |

I've got to ask, who is that on the front cover? I'm assuming the giant is Kostchtchie what with him not looking like any of the giants described in the adventure. The woman, however, has got be a little stumped. I'm thinking it could be Tashanna or Elvanna. The only thing that doesn't fit is that Kostchtchie doesn't appear to have a beef with Elvanna or Tashanna (beyond the hatred of everything in existence that Kostchtchie always has). If anything the Witchwar Legacy backstory points to it being Baba Yaga more than anything else. And if that's Baba Yaga...well.....damn! Really, I was just curious if they were anything more than a badass witch and a badass giant. So does anyone know?
Hey Mr. Mr., :P
Anyway... that giant on the cover is (likely) an abyss gigas (new monster in the module).
As for the witch
But I'm particularly excited about this module... and I get to run my 17th level group through this beauty starting this Monday. :)
Dean

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I had the thought of an abyss gigas but their's a picture of one in the module. And while I figured that a thing spawned from a titan can probably look like all sorts of stuff and still have the same stats, that picture looks far too demonically awesome to be a simple abyss gigas (no matter how cool anything with a CR over 15 looks). As for the witch being Ilivorr, we have a picture of her to compare to. Of course it just be artist interpretation but I was kinda hoping for something more awesome.
On a side note, I now have the thought of Abyss Gigases with Ice Linnorm mounts. Kostchtchie has the most awesome cavalry ever.

Jam412 |

You may want to think about using the spoiler tags in the product description area. Either that or start a new thread and add spoilers to the title.

Greg A. Vaughan Frog God Games |
1. Yeah, Mr. Bojangles. You probably ought to spoiler tag that quote you took from the adventure a few posts above. It's pretty revealing.
2. As for the cover, I assume it's a frost giant with the gnarled template and some non-iconic adventurer, but I don't really have any more insight into it than you guys do.
3. Are my eyes deceiving me or did we just have an honest-to-gosh sighting of the elusive Steve Greer? Last time I saw him was in grainy black and white lumbering thorugh a pine forest.

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Ask a Shoanti wrote:(This mod officially now rocks)Holy s#@#!
Vaughan writing, Greer AND Kortes commenting, how could this not be awesome!?
I don't know, but I do know how it could be even awesomer. If Logue and Pett stopped in to heckle Greg for writing it, the circle would be complete.

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I don't know, but I do know how it could be even awesomer. If Logue and Pett stopped in to heckle Greg for writing it, the circle would be complete.
What would be 'awesomer' would be an all-Cabbage AP (like what almost happened with Runelords, 'cept for that [totally brilliant opening from] that Jacobs guy.)
Of course I jest, because I've been lovin' the McCreary, Nelson, Spicer treatment in the APs. Okay, I call for 12-parter just to fit 'em all in. ;)

Greg A. Vaughan Frog God Games |
Hi, is this adventure too long to be played in one long sessin (about 10 hours)?
It would be possible, but you'd really have to hurry. For most groups I'd think 2-3 sessions of 5-6 hours each, longer if you do a lot of RP and tactical discussion. I once ran Monte Cook's Labyrinth of Madness in a marathon weekend, so I know such things can be done, but it wouldn't be the norm probably.
Figure about 20 encounter areas give or take (depending on how directly the PCs make it to their goal) and how long it would take you and your group to do that at 17th level.

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Talon wrote:Hi, is this adventure too long to be played in one long sessin (about 10 hours)?
It would be possible, but you'd really have to hurry. For most groups I'd think 2-3 sessions of 5-6 hours each, longer if you do a lot of RP and tactical discussion. I once ran Monte Cook's Labyrinth of Madness in a marathon weekend, so I know such things can be done, but it wouldn't be the norm probably.
Figure about 20 encounter areas give or take (depending on how directly the PCs make it to their goal) and how long it would take you and your group to do that at 17th level.
I don't know Greg, being a fan of your stuff. I am pretty sure their is a good chance it could be done. It might even be done in under a hour. Of course that means a TPK and you doing your TPK dance though. So maybe not what Talon was asking. :)

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Greg A. Vaughan wrote:I don't know Greg, being a fan of your stuff. I am pretty sure their is a good chance it could be done. It might even be done in under a hour. Of course that means a TPK and you doing your TPK dance though. So maybe not what Talon was asking. :)Talon wrote:Hi, is this adventure too long to be played in one long sessin (about 10 hours)?
It would be possible, but you'd really have to hurry. For most groups I'd think 2-3 sessions of 5-6 hours each, longer if you do a lot of RP and tactical discussion. I once ran Monte Cook's Labyrinth of Madness in a marathon weekend, so I know such things can be done, but it wouldn't be the norm probably.
Figure about 20 encounter areas give or take (depending on how directly the PCs make it to their goal) and how long it would take you and your group to do that at 17th level.
Ooh, Greg likes to dance?!? I could show him my (naked) Dwarven Beard Dance!
By the way, why doesn't mr. Vaughan have an avatar -- are you afraid to show us your mug, Greg? Well, look at mine -- can't be worse than that, hey? It's not easy being born a fiendish Chelaxian dwarf, you know...

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By the way, why doesn't mr. Vaughan have an avatar -- are you afraid to show us your mug, Greg? Well, look at mine -- can't be worse than that, hey? It's not easy being born a fiendish Chelaxian dwarf, you know...
If he showed himself we would go mad and rip out our eyes. All that would be left is bloody eye sockets and us drooling spittle out of our mouths slumped to the floor our hands full of blood and the gore of our eyes crushed between our fingers.
Edit: Kind of like what it is like after watching your dance ;)

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Asgetrion wrote:If that doesn't send him into screaming fits of terror, I don't know what will. :D
Ooh, Greg likes to dance?!? I could show him my (naked) Dwarven Beard Dance!
Oh, you think so? I think you're being too kind, but can't say that I'm not flattered by your compliment! >;)

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Asgetrion wrote:
By the way, why doesn't mr. Vaughan have an avatar -- are you afraid to show us your mug, Greg? Well, look at mine -- can't be worse than that, hey? It's not easy being born a fiendish Chelaxian dwarf, you know...If he showed himself we would go mad and rip out our eyes. All that would be left is bloody eye sockets and us drooling spittle out of our mouths slumped to the floor our hands full of blood and the gore of our eyes crushed between our fingers.
Edit: Kind of like what it is like after watching your dance ;)
Har har! You guys are making my chest swell with pride -- I just *have* to show these comments to my friends in the Asmodean Inquisition! :D
(By the way, you have described The Pett; his apperance is known to drive sane men mad, and make angels and gods weep! I'm fairly sure Greg looks like an Invisible Stalker, only one with a malicious aura and constantly drooling acid.)