Psiphyre |
Arcanamirium
Aspis Consortium
Bellflower Network
Bloodstone Swords
Church of Razmir
Eagle Knights
Greeen Faith
Hellknights
Kitharodian Academy
Kusari-Gama
Lantern Bearers
Lion Blades
Mendev Crusaders
Ninth Batallion
Old Cults
Pathfinder Society
Prophets of Kalistrade
Red Mantis Assassins
Religious Factions
Risen Guard
Shackles Pirates
Ulfen Guard
Varisian Wanderers
Whispering Way
Aww. No Iridium Fold? (I think that's what the group was called...) Or is the group more likely to show up (if it hasn't been allowed to fade into the background & forgotten) in a product dealing with a non-Inner Sea region of Golarion?? (If I remember the fluff correctly, the group was supposed to be from some unspecified distant land...)
Thanks for answering.
C.
MerrikCale |
That's one of several reasons we're revising the Campaign Setting rather than reprinting it. And it's worth pointing out that there's really NOT a lot of those disconnects in the world, actually; the current Campaign Setting book is a really solid and award-winning book, after all! :)
As well it should be. I am curious as to what these few items are
Psiphyre |
Aww. No Iridium Fold? (I think that's what the group was called...) Or is the group more likely to show up (if it hasn't been allowed to fade into the background & forgotten) in a product dealing with a non-Inner Sea region of Golarion?? (If I remember the fluff correctly, the group was supposed to be from some unspecified distant land...)Thanks for answering.
C.
Edit: I meant Iridan Fold. And after rereading the little paragraph on the group, I suppose it wouldn't really make much sense to have it in the Pathfinder Chronicles: Faction Guide, particularly if the focus of this product is on the different factions (& the benefits of belonging to them) of the Inner Sea. And the IF isn't from any nation (named or unnamed) of the Inner Sea...
('¬_¬) : Guess I answered my own question - at least in part.
So, will the Iridian Fold appear in a much later product dealing with a non-Inner Sea region of Golarion, or has it gone the way of the Darklight Sisterhood?? (Inquiring minds would like to know...)
Thanks for answering.
C.
Dark_Mistress |
I still kind of like the Darklight Sisterhood, although not so much as real rivals to the Pathfinder Society and more like what was discussed here.
Looks at that list.
Hot damn!
Getting into the Risen Guard should be easy for PC's! :D
You and me both on the Darklight Sisterhood. FreeholdDM mentioned posting his work up about him. Looks like those of us interested will just need to share our stuff together. I am waiting to see what he has done and then add my own thoughts. As well as read others thoughts on it. :)
Zeugma |
There will still probably be room for the Darklight Sisterhood in the fan magazine "Wayfinder", if someone wants to submit something! Just like there is stuff focusing on the Grand Duchy of Alkenstar, when James said Paizo is de-emphasizing that country in the Inner Sea book (collapsing it into a chapter on the Mana Wastes as a whole).
Thought, since I'm not directly involved in the project I don't know if they are focusing on strictly current canon stuff or not - I suspect not, because it's for FAN-made stuff after all.
James Jacobs Creative Director |
There will still probably be room for the Darklight Sisterhood in the fan magazine "Wayfinder", if someone wants to submit something! Just like there is stuff focusing on the Grand Duchy of Alkenstar, when James said Paizo is de-emphasizing that country in the Inner Sea book (collapsing it into a chapter on the Mana Wastes as a whole).
Thought, since I'm not directly involved in the project I don't know if they are focusing on strictly current canon stuff or not - I suspect not, because it's for FAN-made stuff after all.
We actually aren't de-emphasizing Alkenstar in the reprint. There's going to be MORE info on Alkenstar and the surrounding Mana Wastes in the reprint—it's just that all of that info will be found in the four pages under the heading of "Mana Wastes" rather than a 2 page entry under the heading of "Alkenstar."
James Jacobs Creative Director |
Aww. No Iridium Fold? (I think that's what the group was called...) Or is the group more likely to show up (if it hasn't been allowed to fade into the background & forgotten) in a product dealing with a non-Inner Sea region of Golarion?? (If I remember the fluff correctly, the group was supposed to be from some unspecified distant land...)
We have a entire book on Kaer Maga coming out in a few months. That book will have info on the Iridian Fold, Bloatmages, Sweettalkers, troll augers, and a LOT of other organizations—they aren't presented as factions, but we didn't want to double up too much between books on the organizations.
Since we had a whole book on Kaer Maga, it made sense to not include any Kaer Maga specific groups in another book.
James Jacobs Creative Director |
Justin Franklin |
Justin Franklin wrote:So could you be a member of more ten one faction, and if you are would you track your PA seperately for each?Yes and yes.
Of course, some factions don't mix well together... but there's nothing stopping anyone from trying to belong to more than one.
Cause there are 2 I can't see how to not be a member of both coming out of Taldor.
Todd Stewart Contributor |
redcelt32 |
I am very very happy with this book. I am starting to use the Prestige Award system in my RotRL game so far, and it will help out immensely with encouraging social activies in my less roleplaying enthusiastic players. Plus I have a bean-counter or two in my game and now they have new beans to count, hehe...
Zeugma |
We actually aren't de-emphasizing Alkenstar in the reprint. There's going to be MORE info on Alkenstar and the surrounding Mana Wastes in the reprint—it's just that all of that info will be found in the four pages under the heading of "Mana Wastes" rather than a 2 page entry under the heading of "Alkenstar."
Ah. That clarifies things greatly. I am looking forward to the Inner Sea book even more now!
Sean K Reynolds Contributor |
Andrew Phillips |
James Jacobs wrote:We actually aren't de-emphasizing Alkenstar in the reprint. There's going to be MORE info on Alkenstar and the surrounding Mana Wastes in the reprint—it's just that all of that info will be found in the four pages under the heading of "Mana Wastes" rather than a 2 page entry under the heading of "Alkenstar."Ah. That clarifies things greatly. I am looking forward to the Inner Sea book even more now!
+1
Masika |
I enjoyed reading the PDF of this book.
I think I was lucky and had my subscription shipped early. I was wrapped by the book and how factions work into general play and also the enhancements to PFS.
A question, how would you go with characters who have multiple prestiage with factions? I assume it would be possible... or do PC loyalties lie with one only?
Jason Nelson Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games |
I enjoyed reading the PDF of this book.
I think I was lucky and had my subscription shipped early. I was wrapped by the book and how factions work into general play and also the enhancements to PFS.
A question, how would you go with characters who have multiple prestiage with factions? I assume it would be possible... or do PC loyalties lie with one only?
As Sean stated above, you can be in several factions at once. In addition, each faction has allied factions, so prestige in one gives you some minor carryover in working with allied factions (and some minor negatives when dealing with enemy factions).
The Thing from Beyond the Edge |
Arcanamirium
Aspis Consortium
Bellflower Network
Bloodstone Swords
Church of Razmir
Eagle Knights
Greeen Faith
Hellknights
Kitharodian Academy
Kusari-Gama
Lantern Bearers
Lion Blades
Mendev Crusaders
Ninth Batallion
Old Cults
Pathfinder Society
Prophets of Kalistrade
Red Mantis Assassins
Religious Factions
Risen Guard
Shackles Pirates
Ulfen Guard
Varisian Wanderers
Whispering Way
What? Where is the Belkzen Unification Front? Is that going to be in the Orcs of Golarion book? ;)
Uggh! I have to wait until something like thesecond of June to get the PDF. (Note: I have a bad habit of not being around when things are shipped, so I just stick with the PDFs and then print them out and put them in a binder myself...)
*waiting patiently*
Lamashan Dalastonor |
I know that several of the factions have particular symbols (Open Road rune for Pathfinders, Green Man for Green Faith, etc.), but does the Whispering Way have a symbol? There's not one pictured in the Campaign Setting and I didn't see one mentioned in this fine Faction Guide either...
On a similar note, does Tar Baphon have a heraldic symbol we should be aware of?
Chris Mortika RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16 |
Nah, that's his bootleg copy, the Mantisman !
[Cue: screaming brass intro chords]
[Cue: upbeat bongos]Mantis-man, Mantis-man! Kills on orders from his clan.
Cuts your throat, slits your wrist,
When he's killed, turns to mist.
Hey there! There goes the Mantis-man!
Neither druid's spell, nor a bard's serenade
Matter half as much, as a good poisoned blade.
Mantis-man, Mantis-man! Deadly, neighborhood Mantis-man.
Makes no sound, in the grass;
He's his own, prestige class.
Look out! Here comes the Mantis-man!!!
(It's okay. I feel all better now.)
gbonehead Owner - House of Books and Games LLC |
Gorbacz wrote:Nah, that's his bootleg copy, the Mantisman ![Cue: screaming brass intro chords]
[Cue: upbeat bongos]Mantis-man, Mantis-man! Kills on orders from his clan.
Cuts your throat, slits your wrist,
When he's killed, turns to mist.
Hey there! There goes the Mantis-man!Neither druid's spell, nor a bard's serenade
Matter half as much, as a good poisoned blade.Mantis-man, Mantis-man! Deadly, neighborhood Mantis-man.
Makes no sound, in the grass;
He's his own, prestige class.
Look out! Here comes the Mantis-man!!!(It's okay. I feel all better now.)
Aw man, that was uncalled for. Now I'm doomed to be singing "Spider-man, Spider-man" to myself for the rest of the afternoon.
Dooomed!!
Dragnmoon |
What? Where is the Belkzen Unification Front? Is that going to be in the Orcs of Golarion book? ;)
They have been replaced by the Unification Front of Belkzen ;)
gbonehead Owner - House of Books and Games LLC |
James Jacobs Creative Director |
I know that several of the factions have particular symbols (Open Road rune for Pathfinders, Green Man for Green Faith, etc.), but does the Whispering Way have a symbol? There's not one pictured in the Campaign Setting and I didn't see one mentioned in this fine Faction Guide either...
On a similar note, does Tar Baphon have a heraldic symbol we should be aware of?
We haven't revealed the symbol of the Whispering Way yet. It's sort of a secret symbol, I guess—they don't really advertise their presence that much, after all.
Lilith |
Gorbacz wrote:Nah, that's his bootleg copy, the Mantisman ![Cue: screaming brass intro chords]
[Cue: upbeat bongos]Mantis-man, Mantis-man! Kills on orders from his clan.
Cuts your throat, slits your wrist,
When he's killed, turns to mist.
Hey there! There goes the Mantis-man!Neither druid's spell, nor a bard's serenade
Matter half as much, as a good poisoned blade.Mantis-man, Mantis-man! Deadly, neighborhood Mantis-man.
Makes no sound, in the grass;
He's his own, prestige class.
Look out! Here comes the Mantis-man!!!(It's okay. I feel all better now.)
...Crap, that's going to be in my head all day now... Somebody should record this. :D
Chris Mortika RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16 |
We haven't revealed the symbol of the Whispering Way yet. It's sort of a secret symbol, I guess—they don't really advertise their presence that much, after all.
Well, since there are now rules for PCs belonging to the organization, I suppose the recommendation is: "GM, make one up for your campaign."
MerrikCale |
Gorbacz wrote:Nah, that's his bootleg copy, the Mantisman ![Cue: screaming brass intro chords]
[Cue: upbeat bongos]Mantis-man, Mantis-man! Kills on orders from his clan.
Cuts your throat, slits your wrist,
When he's killed, turns to mist.
Hey there! There goes the Mantis-man!Neither druid's spell, nor a bard's serenade
Matter half as much, as a good poisoned blade.Mantis-man, Mantis-man! Deadly, neighborhood Mantis-man.
Makes no sound, in the grass;
He's his own, prestige class.
Look out! Here comes the Mantis-man!!!(It's okay. I feel all better now.)
very well done, sir. very well done indeed
Jason Nelson Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games |
Chris Mortika wrote:very well done, sir. very well done indeedGorbacz wrote:Nah, that's his bootleg copy, the Mantisman ![Cue: screaming brass intro chords]
[Cue: upbeat bongos]Mantis-man, Mantis-man! Kills on orders from his clan.
Cuts your throat, slits your wrist,
When he's killed, turns to mist.
Hey there! There goes the Mantis-man!Neither druid's spell, nor a bard's serenade
Matter half as much, as a good poisoned blade.Mantis-man, Mantis-man! Deadly, neighborhood Mantis-man.
Makes no sound, in the grass;
He's his own, prestige class.
Look out! Here comes the Mantis-man!!!(It's okay. I feel all better now.)
agreed - nice work
Lamashan Dalastonor |
We haven't revealed the symbol of the Whispering Way yet. It's sort of a secret symbol, I guess—they don't really advertise their presence that much, after all.
But... there is a symbol! And it will be revealed at some future (but, hopefully, not so distant) time? And it's not just some plain old skull, right?
Groovy.
LoreKeeper |
Gorbacz wrote:Nah, that's his bootleg copy, the Mantisman ![Cue: screaming brass intro chords]
[Cue: upbeat bongos]Mantis-man, Mantis-man! Kills on orders from his clan.
Cuts your throat, slits your wrist,
When he's killed, turns to mist.
Hey there! There goes the Mantis-man!Neither druid's spell, nor a bard's serenade
Matter half as much, as a good poisoned blade.Mantis-man, Mantis-man! Deadly, neighborhood Mantis-man.
Makes no sound, in the grass;
He's his own, prestige class.
Look out! Here comes the Mantis-man!!!(It's okay. I feel all better now.)
Sheer music genius!
Sean K Reynolds Contributor |
Draeke Raefel |
Draeke Raefel wrote:Sooo.... The spells that deal permanent ability damage... Is that every time you use it or only when you first transcribe it into your book?We haven't given any actual examples, but the intent is that it happens every time you cast the spell.
Thanks! I'm guessing it's a GM call at the moment for the amount of ability drain suffered? Probably scaling based on the benefit?
Liquidsabre |
Are there guidelines for creating your own factions in this book? If not, is there a design reason these things are being excluded? I would like to see more books that encourage play in other games, with new rules, besides Golarion. As wonderful as the setting is and all.
Sean K Reynolds Contributor |
Thanks! I'm guessing it's a GM call at the moment for the amount of ability drain suffered? Probably scaling based on the benefit?
Yes. :)
To be honest, the way they've set up these factions, creating your own shouldn't be a problem, even if there are no "this is how you do it" guidelines. It's pretty straight forward stuff.
What he said. :)
IconoclasticScream |
Color me puzzled... Are the Eagle Knights a NG group as the Faction Guide says they are, or LG, as the Campaign Setting says?
Edit: I'm a little wuzzy* on this one, too. The rules on Prestige Points says "When a character’s Prestige Award increases, her TPA and CPA increase by the same value." So CPA can never be higher than TPA. Yet to become a knight of Andoran, a character needs to spend five points of CPA more than his TPA. Is that a typo, or should it be read "must have at least 10 TPS, but spend 15 CPA to be a knight"?
*Jane Goodall, of all people, is to blame for "wuzzy" recently entering my vocabulary. Thanks, monkey lady.
KnightErrantJR |
Color me puzzled... Are the Eagle Knights a NG group as the Faction Guide says they are, or LG, as the Campaign Setting says?
Well, once they start letting those no good adventurers join up, all pretense of law just goes out the window. Bad influence, I tell ya. (Sorry, I know that wasn't helpful at all)
IconoclasticScream |
IconoclasticScream wrote:Color me puzzled... Are the Eagle Knights a NG group as the Faction Guide says they are, or LG, as the Campaign Setting says?Well, once they start letting those no good adventurers join up, all pretense of law just goes out the window. Bad influence, I tell ya. (Sorry, I know that wasn't helpful at all)
Too many damn compromises in the world, I tell you what. Before long we'll have complete anarchy. :)