Yep its up with a little cartography preview as well check it out HERE
I looove the title to this! BUYER BEWARE indeed!
It sure seems like Rite Publishing is always liking the people I like.
In the meantime, those who have purchased this one, we are interested in what you think of it and how our future submissions can be made more useful (if that is possible).
I'm digging into it as I find time. Also, thanks for the shout out in the dedication part of the credits. You guys rock! ;-)
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Thanks Neil and You are quite welcome. :)
I offered this elsewhere, but no one bit: if someone would like a copy of the Emporium, I can send you a complimentary copy - with the caveat that you agree to do a review. I'm quite willing to do this for the first two people that ask and agree to review it.
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Thanks Neil and You are quite welcome. :)
I offered this elsewhere, but no one bit: if someone would like a copy of the Emporium, I can send you a complimentary copy - with the caveat that you agree to do a review. I'm quite willing to do this for the first two people that ask and agree to review it.
i will review it as sson as i have the chance.
no need to send a copy already bought it with such intentio :P
Thanks Neil and You are quite welcome. :)
I offered this elsewhere, but no one bit: if someone would like a copy of the Emporium, I can send you a complimentary copy - with the caveat that you agree to do a review. I'm quite willing to do this for the first two people that ask and agree to review it.
I'll be a contestant, sir.
EDIT: Assuming you have FB, just go to my profile here and we'll proceed from there.
I'll review!
This is not intended to be snarky, or bothersome. I just thought you might want to hear constructive criticism.
I would not buy this product, simply because of the name. I don't like puns or weak names on fantasy products. I see a riff on 'caveat emptor' and I assume that the author is incapable of sustaining my suspension of disbelief in the product too. If you are unable to come up with an original name, and have to mangle latin, I write you off. Life is too short to buy products unless they have the right glow to them. The title and blurb have to say, we take the game seriously, and are giving you tools to make your game richer and your game world more textured. I know there is a subset of gamers that enjoy pop culture references and easter eggs in their games. I am simply not one of them, and thought you might appreciate the feedback.
One of the things that ensures that Paizo gets ninety percent of my tabletop budget, is that their world has gravitas and subtlety.
Puns and portmanteaus just make me remember the TSR greyhawk butchering module that based itself entirely on double entendres and puns.
you now have enough copper pennies to pay the ferryman . Just wait until the other side
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Hey Taliesin,
Thanks for the feedback. Steve (the publisher and boss) wants titles that reflect exactly what is in the book. I actually softened up the name from what he originally had to make it a tad more subtle. :)
If its any consolation, the pun in the name intrudes exactly twice in the text of the material (i think thats right) and one of those is in the stat block heading for Mr Tor. The sign of the shop actually reads "Kavit's Emporium of Collectible Curiosities," and most of the time we simply refer to our villainous shopkeeper as Kavit, which I think is a perfectly acceptable fantasy name. The text is most certainly written in as serious a manner as is possible for a fantasy shop of cursed collectibles. As the book is meant to be pretty portable from world to world, buyers can feel free to change the shopkeepers name.
I think Kavit Tor is a fine name. Although, I suspect him of trying to sell me fantasy books along with those [spoilered] items, with that last name. Besides, a little punnery isn't the end of the world.
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@Mairkurion: If punnery were the end of the world, my leafy green friend, you would be the angel of death. I've seen you in those punning contest threads ...
@Taliesin: Thanks for the feedback. We've certainly tried to create a site that works on a variety of levels, but there is an element of playfulness throughout it.
I've wondered about Latin in my fantasy worlds too. I've been reading China Mieville during my vacation. Mieville mixes in bits of Latin and French here and there as well. Recent borrowings from French appear in Paizo's products as well. It sometimes jumps out at me and I'm not sure how I feel about it. As Wicht said, though, it's barely there inside the text. The intention of putting it on the cover is that the customer buying the Evocative City Site knows very well what they are getting.
@Neil: No, you rock.
@Urizen and Montalve: We look forward to hearing your opinions and getting your feedback.
@Mairkurion: If punnery were the end of the world, my leafy green friend, you would be the angel of death. I've seen you in those punning contest threads ...
I prefer to think of myself as THE GREENMAN OF THE APUNCALYPSE.
I got my copy and have been looking through it tonight. Fun stuff, TD: this is definitely going in my homebrew game.
Urizen, just email me at wicht73 at comcast dot net and I'll send you out a copy.
Edit: I did send a facebook request too but I mostly just lurk on facebook to follow the doings of family and old school chums.
I got home less than an hour ago and I already replied to you on FB before seeing this msg. =)
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Curious Goods?
You could use it that way. It has potential for much longer term use in a campaign if you take it in that direction.
EDIT: I just read Jonathan's preview where he discusses the potential for about the challenge of making the Emporium a place your players could go back to again and again. That was one of our main concerns. The other Evocative City Sites are easy to bring your PCs back to: houses of ill repute? taverns? inns? Try keeping them away. Our shop was a little more challenging but I think we gave your PCs enough reason to come back.
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Curious Goods?
In the brief blurb I gave to Steve for the Rite Publishing homepage I mention Friday the 13th (the series) as a bit of an inspiration. I think it is more parallel though to Leland Gaunt's store in "Needful Things;" only ours has more in game value and reusability I think. I mean, once you know who Gaunt is, your PCs either take him out or run him out of town. Anyone who wants to take out our Mr. Tor has to first hunt him down. And even then, there are legitimate (sort of) services he can provide to PCs. Or he can be used to instigate adventures or as the object of a quest. I really think there are all sorts of possible ways to use what we wrote in a game, and purposefully so.
@Taliesin Hoyle
That was my call, because I want our to be "Exactly What It Says On The Tin"; The Intimate Shape Festhall, The Rogue's Gallery Tavern, The Next Inn, Lorn's Entrepot So you know exactly what kind of product you are buying. The format for the Blurb matches the format for 4 preceding Evocative City Sites.
Kavit M. Tor is not a pun, its a warning, and yes it is an easter egg. It was also shout out to "Needful Things" as the the Latin is written on a sign right above the door.
In Rite Publishing's design philosophy that you can be subtle with GMs and also to allow them to make the call on how to use this with their players. You cannot be subtle with players.
Most are not going to read the sign (unless its used in a PbP or chat game), they are going to hear the GM speak it outloud, and some players wont' hear it because they will bet talking to another player when you say it, another will be on his cellphone, the other player is 13 and was never taught Latin in school and has never Read or Seen "Needful Things", another who does know Latin and is paying close attention smiles nods hesd and sits back and gets to enjoy watching it all unfold, and at the end after the party leaves says "oh I just realized the guy's name is Buyer Beware in Latin" and then falls out of his chair laughing at the look of horror on the other players faces; Well that's what happened in my game :)
Oh and there is a Interview with Jonathan on our Front page today
Check it our HERE
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Mairkurian, thanks for the review and the very kind words. If you have the time, you might post your review over at RPGNow as well.
My pleasure!
Thanks for taking the time to post a review Makurioun (5 stars happy dance of joy).
Just a note the Cartography is not stock art :)
Sure thing, Steven, you've got great taste.
I aimed my review at folks who might make assumptions based on the cover. Personally, as I've said in KQ reviews, I enjoy judicious selections from PD art. But you reminded me of two things I intended to include that I forgot.
A thank you to Urizen for his review. :)
You're welcome! Thank you for giving me the opportunity and allowing me the time to look it over. =)
Now, on with your next assignment!
Color me clueless, but I just got the joke in the shop owner's name. ;^_^
I wanted to thank Urizen for taking the time to do this review,
I will fix the quote in the book, but I will make a suggested correction to your review the dedication is to Neil Spicer (made by the authors), Leland Gaunt was my original inspiration and the quote on the credits page was a lost minute edition and the misspelling is entirely my fault.
Unfortunately the Evocative City Sites line is about providing thrilling and useful adventure sites along with complex NPCs, it will not be providing the full prestige classes nor the full templates that are used to create these NPCs.
I would however point out that all the benefits that prestige class provides, to the NPC is provided in the NPC stat block. We are not listing an ability in the Speciall Attack or Defenses and then not describing them in Special Qualities unless the are part of the existing core class abilites or Universal Monster Rules.
Thanks again to Urizen
Steve Russell
Rite Publishing
I will fix the quote in the book, but I will make a suggested correction to your review the dedication is to Neil Spicer (made by the authors), Leland Gaunt was my original inspiration and the quote on the credits page was a lost minute edition and the misspelling is entirely my fault.
Perhaps we're perceiving / construing things differently. Are you referring to this:
Thanks for Jonathan and Trevor in bringing this to realization and Steve for having faith in their capabilities to provide us such awesome goodness!
Unfortunately the Evocative City Sites line is about providing thrilling and useful adventure sites along with complex NPCs, it will not be providing the full prestige classes nor the full templates that are used to create these NPCs.
I would however point out that all the benefits that prestige class provides, to the NPC is provided in the NPC stat block. We are not listing an ability in the Speciall Attack or Defenses and then not describing them in Special Qualities unless the are part of the existing core class abilites or Universal Monster Rules.
I understand your position and that's your decision. If certain source materials are extant and/or in available circulation, then that's no problem. But if it's OOP and if I'm one of those that want to dissect the statblock to ensure it is correct, knowing the resource would be helpful ... if I can get my hands on it. *shrug*
But that's just me; I may very well just be in a small minority. =)
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I understand your position and that's your decision. If certain source materials are extant and/or in available circulation, then that's no problem. But if it's OOP and if I'm one of those that want to dissect the statblock to ensure it is correct, knowing the resource would be helpful ... if I can get my hands on it. *shrug*
For those interested, the sourcebook in question is Quintessential Monks (the first volume) and it is oop. There are, at the moment, copies available from Amazon.
You're a good man, Charlie Brown. :P
It might have some to do with how cool the product is, but more likely, it's the "Mairkurion Bump." ;p
It might have some to do with how cool the product is, but more likely, it's the "Mairkurion Bump." ;p
So now you're like the Primus of this Product Review? :P
May I quote you on that?
May I quote you on that?
Has it stopped you before?
Dark Mistress: criticism or critique in the final paragraph, instead of "critic."
We got Dark Mistress a comp copy so she could post it at drivethru as well
I want to than her for taking the time to do a reivew of the product and the extra effort of posting it all around the world.
One drawback to the OGL is section 7.
"You agree not to Use any Product Identity, including as an indication as to compatibility, except as expressly licensed in another, independent Agreement with the owner of each element of that Product
Identity. You agree not to indicate compatibility or co-adaptability with any Trademark or Registered Trademark in conjunction with a work containing Open Game Content except as expressly licensed in another, independent Agreement with the owner of such Trademark or Registered Trademark."
So for example LpJr design can't say (From In the Company of Giants by Rite Publishing) next to an Npc that uses our Jotun paragon class and race, because its a violation of my trademark, and is an indication of compatibly. I know some folks do this, and consider it "fair use" but the problem is your agreeing not to do so at all by using the OGL.
Just trying to be of service.
Blah I had public education, you should be happy I know how to spell my own name.
Prove it spell it :)
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We got Dark Mistress a comp copy so she could post it at drivethru as well
I want to than her for taking the time to do a reivew of the product and the extra effort of posting it all around the world.
YW and I posted it up over there as well. Was the OGL thing directed at me or was you responded to someone else?
I go the other way with puns. I saw the name, got the pun, and rushed to read the product description.
Wordplay in business names is a big no for me (hair salons get a pass as there's a tradition there ala Curl Up and Dye), but joke names in book titles doesn't bother me in the least and may even draw my attention better.
That said, it was Dark Mistress likening the content to the Friday the 13th TV series in her review that really sold me.